Operation Barbarossa - How much Intelligence do you need?

Operation Barbarossa - How much Intelligence do you need? - WW2 Special

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Josef Stalin was warned time and again from a variety of sources of the German plans for invading the Soviet Union, and yet, he did NOT heed those warnings.
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@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын

Several sources were used for this episode, including our own scripts from the past year, but John Waller’s “The Unseen War in Europe” was a pretty big one. Mainly for his organization of the various elements of Barbarossa intelligence. Be sure to check out our rules of conduct before you comment! community.timeghost.tv/t/rules-of-conduct/4518

@luxembourgishempire2826 3 жыл бұрын

I would say a lot

@comsubpac 3 жыл бұрын

So not just Wikipedia this time unlike the "Der Bismarck" debacle? 😜

@tyronesimmons7702 3 жыл бұрын

hey can you make a video of the waffen ss, snipers and hand to hand combat in other countries

@enema6222 3 жыл бұрын

2:44 So according to Hitler, in other words, the best option to avoid the USSR joining as enemies is to... make them our enemies. \(•_•)/

@UrWifiIsSlow 3 жыл бұрын

@comsubpac that was funny

@TSmith-yy3cc 3 жыл бұрын

British: "Germans are going to attack you." Americans: "Germans are going to attack you." Soviets: "Germans are going to attack you." Germans: "We're going to attack you." Stalin: "Keep absolutely still; German vision is based on movement."

@TheBattleMaster100 3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@mariano98ify 3 жыл бұрын

Soviets: German going to attack US.

@Celtopia 3 жыл бұрын

he was always blind drunk ,,,,

@chrisdaniels3929 3 жыл бұрын

Hitler's plan was straight up aggression and Stalin misjudged that. That costs the frontline troops arrayed at the border. The USSR is so big that plan B is always there, as in Napoleon's day. What does he do? Would something be misinterpreted. Moving troops back to deeper defensive lines might appear weak.Bad for a dictator and invites attack, when you want to front up to the Nazis. I think Stalin's plan is to take the pain and move to Plan B if the unlikely invasion happened.

@maximilianolimamoreira5002 3 жыл бұрын

@Ordinary Sessel yeah,one of the main reasons of the German defeat was that they were fighting a two front war,which started due to both a hatred for Slavs and communism,and to get that much needed🛢,to keep on fighting.

@jessecarozza8134 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone's doing the "fake news" routine and I'm loving the end with Astrid. Indy: "Shame you're married!" Sparty: "...NO IT ISN'T!" Indy: "Well, 50/50."

@MrNicoJac 3 жыл бұрын

@Yeah Nah You'd piss off the guy who does War Against Humanity? Damn son, if only your brain was a quarter of the size of your balls..... 😜

@Custerd1 3 жыл бұрын

Very similar vests and ties. I had to rewind to do a double-take.

@Belgand 3 жыл бұрын

I guess a lot of people are too young to remember Annie Hall. All Astrid needs is the hat.

@jeffeppenbach 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrNicoJac No worries. Indy's gf is on the crew. She was at the breakfast. This fills in the familial info, for some of us. I was guessing she and Spart were the couple, but hadn't heard or read any conformation.

@thethirdjegs 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffeppenbach weren't they married? Astrid Dienard-Olsson??

@JRMusic933 3 жыл бұрын

The set is getting really excellent I love the noir esque lighting

@billy4072 3 жыл бұрын

jonathan ramont do you now? Maybe you need to get out more, then?

@ProvidenceNL 3 жыл бұрын

@@billy4072 Did you reply to the wrong comment?

@taunteratwill1787 3 жыл бұрын

@@ProvidenceNL No he just thought it was a smart thing to say. :-))

@oskr152 3 жыл бұрын

sad that i can't see the usual photo of good ol Hotzendorf in the back, it was really amazing

@lewiscliffe434 3 жыл бұрын

The effort that goes into some KZfaq channels is excellent! No wonder television is dead.

@stc3145 3 жыл бұрын

"Italy is pinning down British forces" Are you sure about that Franz?

@Paerigos 3 жыл бұрын

well in theory - and expense of teritory :D

@spqr1945 3 жыл бұрын

British needed to use a lot of resources against Italy in Mediterranian and in North Africa. Those resources were desperatley needed against Germany.

@samarkand1585 3 жыл бұрын

@@spqr1945 desperately needed where?

@spqr1945 3 жыл бұрын

@@samarkand1585 Battle of Atlantic required a lot of ships and planes. Convoys to Malta were costly for british navy and troops in North Africa required ammunitions, personal and commercial shiping. If not Italy, maybe allies would be able to land in France the whole year earlier.

@kemarisite 3 жыл бұрын

Considering when he wrote that (end of July, 1940), there is nothing to reconsider. The Italians were about to begin the conquest of British Somaliland, had already begun using airpower against the British in East Africa, and would launch their invasion of Egypt in September. The Italian navy had just fought the Royal Navy to a standstill at the Battle of Calabria, allowing their reinforcement convoy to reach Benghazi unscathed despite the presence of three British battleships against only two Italian ones. Now, if Halder had been writing in October after watching the Italian army camp out at Sidi Barrani (100 km inside Egypt) for weeks, or the end of October after the Italians added Greece to their list of problems, or mid-November after the raid on Taranto crippled the Italian fleet, then he'd have come to a different conclusion. At the end of July, though, it's hard to say he was entirely wrong.

@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 3 жыл бұрын

He’d trust me, we would be best friends

@akhashdhillon2159 3 жыл бұрын

@Yeah Nah STAY AWAY. SHE'S MINE!

@thurin84 3 жыл бұрын

he had a thing for rockets as well.

@adamtatoian487 3 жыл бұрын

Do u trust David skylark

@nygothuey6607 3 жыл бұрын

Of course he would Great Leader! You're both born of the Revolution and great friends of the proletariat.

@philiphied 3 жыл бұрын

@@nygothuey6607 hey. We all know the true dear great leader is in the US. Merika!

@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding 3 жыл бұрын

Germany: moves troops to the border with the soviet union. Stalin: *Fake news!*

@erikthomsen4768 3 жыл бұрын

*Laughing in American*

@Gia1911Logous 3 жыл бұрын

Damnit... I was gonna make that joke

@erikthomsen4768 3 жыл бұрын

@Plamen Stoev Himself.

@czarpeppers6250 3 жыл бұрын

Haha, no kidding. Human psychology in that regard certainly is interesting. Well, less so when it involves the possible death of millions of people.

@quasimododisney8765 3 жыл бұрын

@Plamen Stoev ... uh-huh ... riii-iiiiight ... ! .................

@murmurrrr 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone: great leader, your mustache is on fire!!! Stalin: don't be ridiculous, these blatant lies are too obvious to be believed. Also, it sure is hot in here!

@taunteratwill1787 3 жыл бұрын

Also, someone started a barbecue!

@moosemaimer 3 жыл бұрын

So he's actually Dr. Weird? "Gentlemen! Where's my mustache?!" "I-it's right there... on your face..." "oh... *BULLS%!T!* "

@planescaped 3 жыл бұрын

@@moosemaimer Stalin as Doctor Weird makes a lot of sense.... IT HUNGERS.... FOR _MORE_

@samarvora7185 3 жыл бұрын

You're in shock. Joseph Stalin's moustache doesn't catch fire.

@Cheka__ 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but me and the fire have a deal not to hurt each other.

@willis32 3 жыл бұрын

It's impressive how leaky Germanys leadership was

@markcantemail8018 3 жыл бұрын

75 years before Wiki leaks ?

@nuoksu 3 жыл бұрын

It is hard to hide something that involves more people than any military operation ever. Even more so if you have boastful oafs like Göring on your side.

@YekouriGaming 3 жыл бұрын

The only somewhat successfully hidden massive operation in the last 100 years was the Nato exercise, Able Archer 83, www.bbc.com/future/article/20181108-the-wargame-that-could-have-ended-the-world But it also got detected after a few days of going on. There is a reason why covert operations are formed by very small teams, otherwise you will be detected. Another factor about german leadership especially around 1940 was that almost everyone disagreed on how to proceed. Even Hitler did not fully know what to do after the Battle of France, he was bewildered that the UK kept fighting on, and Göring did not want any fighting in Eastern Europe. Others of the German leadership were not eager to have a two front war either, and some of the lower ranks in regions like Prussia were not really keen on having a war next to them in a two front war. Just think of the military situation in the wast, like any Nato member, there is no way in hell that you could keep any military operation secret after the questionable Iraq invasion. Mostly people on left, but someone would talk due to disagreement of the idea. It would be the biggest crackdown in history required, to not have something like that leaking. The Americans and English knew about this human behaviour leading up to D-Day, which is why they confused even the generals about what the plan was. You cannot leak a plan you do not understand yourself. It's either that, or be so frightening that no one even dares to speak up. Which only worked for about 30 years before technology caught up with that possibility in USSR. One of the reasons why Khrushchev did a lot of reforms after Stalin died, to hide and cover some of the Stalin era things that were leaking.

@panzerofthelake506 3 жыл бұрын

UwU Germany senpai is that the secret plans to invade the Soviet union in your pockets or are you really happ.. wait no why Germany why you do this? Why u invade Soviet union

@Stamboul 2 жыл бұрын

Any leadership is made up of people, and people generally love to hear themselves talk. The more people your secret plan requires to be in the know, the greater the likelihood that someone will blab about it to the wrong person. Even more so if you've recruited many cadres from among an aristocratic elite, which was true in Germany even after 23 years of democracy and fascism - those are some gossipy bitches.

@KHK001 3 жыл бұрын

Hitler: I will attack the USSR in June Stalin:..... Hitler:..... Stalin: Don't believe u!

@servinginhellaimingforheav2446 2 жыл бұрын

"Ja we are very much attacking" "Too bad i trust no one besides my self"

@JaredFrasier 3 жыл бұрын

"Shame you're married!" "No it isn't!!!" 😆😆😆

@rvanhees89 3 жыл бұрын

4:20 Göring being, once again, a magnificent charicature of himself XD

@ImtheHitcher 3 жыл бұрын

Lol I thought exactly the same, even in a picture he comes across as a pompous ass

@rvanhees89 3 жыл бұрын

@@ImtheHitcher exactly hahahaha

@lexbor3511 3 жыл бұрын

The logic in Stalin's behavior here - 1. Stalin thought his country needed at least another year to face German's might. (he did not expect the collapse of France to be that soon). 2. Stalin thought Germany would not risk to start a war against the Soviet Union before making peace with GB. 3. Stalin was sure GB is desperate to drag him into the war against Germany. 4. Stalin received dates of invasion from his intelligence starting from March and all these predictions failed except the last one - on June 22. So for him a warning about June 22 invasion sounded like another disinformation. 5. Stalin's intelligence reported - there is no signs of German's Army mass preparing winter clothes. And u kinda need it if u are planing to invade Russia. Stalin's main motivation was - he desperately needed another year and his mind rejected anything that was contradicting his plans.

@juanpabloibanez1538 2 жыл бұрын

So...he was a idiot

@gutty5475 2 жыл бұрын

@@juanpabloibanez1538 did you even read the comment?

@juanpabloibanez1538 2 жыл бұрын

@@gutty5475 Yes, I did and the only thing that makes it clear to me is that the guy had all the warnings he wanted and didn't pay attention to them, just because "mah country is not prepared". A good and capable leader adapts to the constant changes both inside and outside the country and according to the comment, Stalin did not.

@gutty5475 2 жыл бұрын

@@juanpabloibanez1538 it really looks like you didn't read the comment, im gonna briefly summarize what that person tried to get across, and mind you that most of these reasons were acknowledged by Stalin at the same time, so he didn't go through reason after reason desperately trying to justify why Germany wouldn't attack 1. Stalin thought France would last longer(wich they could've since dunkirke was against orders) 2. 2 Front wars specially against 2 great powers against 1 is very costly so he believed Germany wouldn't risk it 3. The war was very much against GB's favour at this point and like most countries at this point in time to GB the more that the USSR suffers the better it is. 4. All invasion dates he got from intelligence didn't come true, so there was nothing different from the June 22nd invasion date that made it any more believable than previous ones. 5. No winter clothes for an invasion of Russia, i don't even need to explain why thats ESSENTIAL. Can you now see that it wasn't such a stupid decision then? i get it that with the power of hindsight everything seems so obvious but its not as simple as that.

@a_shumilin 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to add that on the night of June 21-22, an order was given to put the troops on full combat readiness and occupy fortified areas on the border, disperse and camouflage aviation at airfields, and prepare to black out cities and important objects. The name of the order is "Order of the People's Commissar of Defense No. 1 dated June 22, 1941." ("Приказ Народного Комиссара Обороны № 1 от 22 июня 1941 г." in Russian). But the order was given at about half past midnight on June 22 and simply did not have time to go down the chain of command "military district - army - corps - division". The tales about the short-sighted Stalin, who foresaw full-scale Western aggression against Soviet Russia back in the 1920s, are wildly annoying.

@Saeronor 3 жыл бұрын

"Germany will be then master of Europe *and the Balkans* " Halder. Stahp. Don't you have enough enemies already?

@BangFarang1 3 жыл бұрын

The Balkans had been separated from the Ottoman empire not long ago, so in the people mind they were still seen as Asian or something in between.

@Saeronor 3 жыл бұрын

@@BangFarang1 Still, I find it hilarious that Halder would say that instead of eg. "Europe and Home of Asiatic Hordes or Bolshevik Asia". I mean, shouldn't a proper nazi deny "European" label to Untermenschenland first ? :)

@samarvora7185 3 жыл бұрын

That 'analysis' sounded as sound an analysis as "2020 is going to be a great year."

@JdeMonster 3 жыл бұрын

Soviet intelligence : The Germans have a leak! Stalin : Must be the damn kulaks selling them food.

@erikthomsen4768 3 жыл бұрын

A man must have intelligence in order to use military intelligence. He's an idiot.

@USSAnimeNCC- 3 жыл бұрын

Hitler: Don’t want to cause a two front war for Germany Also Hitler: Start a two front war because he has a beef for communism

@AndreLuis-gw5ox 3 жыл бұрын

@@USSAnimeNCC- its a little more complicated than that

@sharkronical 3 жыл бұрын

André Luis yeah, it's not like USSR wouldn't invade them when they're not expecting it

@Saeronor 3 жыл бұрын

@@sharkronical Also, it's not like there was any proper front in Europe after France had gone down.

@AverytheCubanAmerican 3 жыл бұрын

Trust nobody, not even yourself

@TheTomasio1975 3 жыл бұрын

Especially yourself!

@tomjustis7237 3 жыл бұрын

I have a saying I often use; "I don't trust anybody but me ... and I keep a very close eye on me, because I never know when I might jump up and screw myself over!"

@veeaa 3 жыл бұрын

Fixed: Trust nobody, not even yousseff.

@lewisirwin5363 3 жыл бұрын

@@veeaa "I hate that Josef, he keeps Stalin my stuff!"

@devanshankhiwala9212 3 жыл бұрын

People who took it too far

@Arashmickey 3 жыл бұрын

Astrid is a treat and wonderful guest appearance! Now I appreciate the studio location much better.

@Arashmickey 3 жыл бұрын

@Yeah Nah Speak for yourself! ... or at least wait until I know who you're talking about.

@pvtnewb 3 жыл бұрын

German Ambassador: "The invasion is real" Stalin: "Fake n e w s"

@Brahmdagh 3 жыл бұрын

Germany's own ambassador telling Stalin his country was going to attack Stalin's? wowow I literally actually couldn't have made this up. No wonder Stalin's head was in a spin.

@Wustenfuchs109 3 жыл бұрын

You can't really blame the guy, everyone wanted to provoke the war between USSR and Germany. Allies, to ease the pressure on themselves, Axis for then having an excuse (that they later fabricated anyway). And while Stalin appeared to dismiss the information gathered, if you look at the number of mobilized troops and their deployment, you'd see that it wasn't really "fake news" approach, quite the contrary. Soviets did as much as possible WITHOUT sparking the war themselves, which was the point - prolong as much as possible and try to give as little excuse as possible. In a world where the Red Army mobilizes fully and rushes to the border, German "preemptive war" argument has merit. Also, an army defending the whole border against the concentrated attacks means that in those early encirclements the whole Red Army gets destroyed, instead of fractions of it that provided for the deployment of defense-in-depth strategy that ultimately stopped the Germans. False intelligence is a common way of manipulating your enemies - fake operation plans etc. It is not just about getting the truth, but how you respond to it. For example, British knew quite a lot about German plans once Enigma was cracked, but they acted only on SOME of the intelligence as to prevent the Germans from figuring out that the code was broken. Intel war is a very strange and difficult game to play. So don't be quick to judge.

@pedrolopez8057 3 жыл бұрын

And Canaris the head of German intelligence working against the Nazis

@hammer3721 3 жыл бұрын

@@Wustenfuchs109 Don't be quick to judge Stalin ? Yeah, evidently only a Russian could say that about the Geogrian lover of genocide.

@sztypettto 3 жыл бұрын

This could become a ladder meme. Source 1: Germany plans to invade USSR. Stalin: Nyet British Intelligence: Germans planning on attacking you in 1941 Stalin: lies Churchill: Hitler gonna attack you bruh Stalin: Nope US intelligence: Germany gonna attack you in June 41 Stalin: Don't believe you. German ambassador: We are literally preparing to invade you after June 20,1941. Stalin: Get outta here Germany actually invades: Just fake news. ....

@Wustenfuchs109 3 жыл бұрын

@@hammer3721 Yup, and only an ignorant westerner can mistake a Serb for a Russian. You've disqualified yourself from this discussion, even if we neglect ad-hominem "argumentation".

@gianniverschueren870 3 жыл бұрын

Proper vintage tie from grandpa's closet. Gotta respect that. 3/5

@cieylor 3 жыл бұрын

And what about Indy's clothes?

@JustSomeCanuck 3 жыл бұрын

Eventually, everyone associated with this channel will be wearing ties. You'll be busy!

@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын

Gianni, will your ratings be included with the ties that are being auctioned?

@gianniverschueren870 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCimbrianBull I didn't start right away, and I'm not a part of Timeghost so I assume not.

@DoraFauszt 3 жыл бұрын

Agree, 3/5

@Valdagast 3 жыл бұрын

It's bad to start a war without a valid Casus Belli. Leads to a loss of stability.

@benismann 3 жыл бұрын

Hitler had a lot of adm points and dip ideas as it seems

@Woff1dGM 3 жыл бұрын

i was scrolling on my phone and i swear i tought you guys gave stalin bunny ears on the thumbnail

@kstreet7438 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking donkey ears,an ass

@Apokalypse456 3 жыл бұрын

I thought devil horns

@garabic8688 3 жыл бұрын

So basically Stalin was in stage one of grief after the winter war: denial

@servinginhellaimingforheav2446 2 жыл бұрын

"No no no It didnt cost us a few hundred thousand men right?"

@stateradio115 3 жыл бұрын

I love these 'behind the scenes' of the war episodes. I think most of us here know about the timeline of WW2 so when Indy puts out episodes about logistics, comms, intelligence, espionage, technology, ect its a lot more fascinating IMO because it isn't talked about as much. Always love hearing about the war from both the axis and allied perspectives as well! Best history channel out there (save for maybe dr mark felton)

@Tillfailure190 3 жыл бұрын

We love you

@jeroen6275 3 жыл бұрын

😍 Indy

@Artur_M. 3 жыл бұрын

The ending was quite possibly the funniest moment ever on this channel.

@BobJones20001 3 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed the humanity in Astrid's section. A little hard to hear her at times but the passion and content was very clear. She must be very patient putting up with those brutish gobblins spouting gibberish in the back ground while she tries to concentrate. The segment made me laugh and feel part of the team. Top work. Entertaining and informative.

@semkoops 3 жыл бұрын

It must be a privilege to be connected so strongly with an important part of history. Good on you two that you preserved Woods' house!

@unicat2190 3 жыл бұрын

@Yeah Nah So we should probably move congress to a gymnasium with plastic chairs, everyone in agreement?

@yorick6035 3 жыл бұрын

Really loved the unexpected Astrid bit at the end, always a pleasure to listen whilst she tells about the house and its history. Real hyped for the bio specials.

@briankirz231 3 жыл бұрын

Last time I was this early they said we'd be home by Christmas

@firingallcylinders2949 3 жыл бұрын

Oof

@RifleEyez 3 жыл бұрын

Weihnachten in Berlinnnn

@Raskolnikov70 3 жыл бұрын

Trieste is nice in the fall, perhaps once the Kaiser knocks off all this silliness a nice vacation on the shores of the Adriatic is in order.

@Max-hb9yu 3 жыл бұрын

Brian Kirz Well the solders were all home by Christmas, they never said which one they would be home by.

@cromania100 3 жыл бұрын

Love it how Halder says: "...Europe AND the Balkans" :,D I don't even know anymore....

@wbertie2604 3 жыл бұрын

Prior to the breakup of the Ottoman Empire the term 'The Balkans' was somewhat more fluid and sometimes was used to refer to the European part of the Ottoman Empire, and so not really Europe by some. That would have been the usage that Halder probably grew up with. It's geographically not correct, but then the term was pretty poorly described in the first place and rather arbitrary.

@korbell1089 3 жыл бұрын

Stalin: "Hitler would never attack me, we did a pinky swear!"

@gefilte86 3 жыл бұрын

Intel:"How much intelligence do you need?" Stalin: "Yes".

@Ridddigg 3 жыл бұрын

It is very difficult to trust the West. It's like believing a prostitute that she wasn't sick. There are no guarantees. Sorry but that's what the Russians think.

@dragosstanciu9866 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ridddigg And the Soviets paid a gruesome price in blood because Stalin did not believe even his spies.

@prajwalpingali 3 жыл бұрын

Wait wait wait! WHY DOESN'T ASTRID HAVE HER OWN SUB SERIES? I mean... I'd love to watch it! She seems so jolly and nice! She'd be a great presenter

@prajwalpingali 3 жыл бұрын

@Yeah Nah I'm aware of that, I'm saying that having her on the sunshine side of the camera would be amazing too

@kensurrency2564 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Nah She can totally pull it off!

@tobybartels8426 2 жыл бұрын

This comment aged well!

@danielnavarro537 3 жыл бұрын

Good video keep up the good work

@Pioneer_DE 3 жыл бұрын

Last time I was this early the Invasion of Barbarossa hasnt been stalled yet.... not that I know of anything...

@toastytoast9800 3 жыл бұрын

You could say it was 'stalin' 😃

@firingallcylinders2949 3 жыл бұрын

Defeatism will not be tolerated in the Wehrmacht!

@stephencarroll9935 3 жыл бұрын

Stalled? are you out of your head AA will be achieved by Christmas

@toastytoast9800 3 жыл бұрын

@@stephencarroll9935 wdym? Its only kicking down the front door and the rotten structure comes crumbling down

@UrWifiIsSlow 3 жыл бұрын

Onwards to Stalingrad with exposed flanks!

@perfectlyfine1675 3 жыл бұрын

Stalin needed to... *Stall* for time, you say?

@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын

*ba dum tss!* 🥁 😂 🤣 😅

@dpeasehead 3 жыл бұрын

I guess Stalins motto should have been: "Distrust, but verify."

@inxendere 3 жыл бұрын

Astrid's story telling is so soothing like she could be telling me about the holocaust and I'd peacefully fall asleep to her voice

@taufiqutomo 3 жыл бұрын

Which is why Sparty does that instead.

@GETitHOWuLIVit 3 жыл бұрын

"Stalin needed to stall for time" You'd think Stalin'd be better at stalling.

@joshhairr9558 3 жыл бұрын

The absolute fact that they're filming in Sam Woods's old house is absolutely amazing and I'm cheesing out with glee over this 😂

@Ra1tzU 3 жыл бұрын

Stalin looks like he has bunny ears in the thumbnail lol

@bouncyball6477 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@michaelhamilton8401 3 жыл бұрын

the germans have crossed the border stalin: no they didn't

@TheSkyGuy77 2 жыл бұрын

General: sir, there's airstrikes from German fighters!!! (Explosion in background) Stalin: everything is fine.

@Azoth86730 3 жыл бұрын

Stalin is the original "Nah, it'll be fine" guy.

@keithehredt753 3 жыл бұрын

Phone call> I can't believe he did it. I mean didn't Molotov have that big hit song and all. LMAO. Great video Indy.

@alanle1471 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent production as usual. Thank-you Indy.(corrected thanks to the reply!)

@mikestewart996 3 жыл бұрын

I remember reading about the broken code used by the Japanese ambassador in “the secret war” by Max Hastings. Sorge’s input until his arrest, not just in the build up to Barbarossa but also about the lack of willingness of Japan to attack Russia in 1941 cannot be overstated. Unbelievably interesting read and a lot of crazy in-depth material on the subject, I would highly recommend!

@sharadowasdr 3 жыл бұрын

Kudos to you guys for preserving Sam Woods' house !

@Eric_Hutton.1980 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't Stalin believe it was an imperialist plot to draw him into the war.

@williamhild1793 3 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed the bonus information from Astrid. Another great video from World War Two/Time Ghost.

@LordCrush 3 жыл бұрын

I love the banter in the episodes. It's always fun. Great work as always everyone.

@blindhog2756 3 жыл бұрын

Stalin was so paranoid,he didn't believe anyone,even himself.

@heikkisallinen9012 3 жыл бұрын

Trump of USSR

@heikkisallinen9012 3 жыл бұрын

@@rusoviettovarich9221 да, товарищ

@chrisdaniels3929 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone was out to get him!

@zachsmith1676 3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love the work you fine people put into these videos!

@WorldWarTwo 3 жыл бұрын

thanks

@liukaosborne 3 жыл бұрын

incredible work bringing history to life, thanks for this! ~

@rickoshay2589 3 жыл бұрын

I'm hooked on your videos. Nice work.

@benjamindover2601 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder which killed more, Stalin's politics or his incompetence.

@jrk1666 3 жыл бұрын

yes

@morisco56 3 жыл бұрын

@@jrk1666 Close to the edge

@vorynrosethorn903 3 жыл бұрын

Politics, the guy could plan, it was just a matter of what he was planning.

@hopin8krzys 3 жыл бұрын

It wasnt really incompetence, just an extension of his politics. So, I guess politics

@alchemist6819 3 жыл бұрын

Politics, I think he wasn't incompetent so yeah politics.

@martonk 3 жыл бұрын

The thumbnail is amazing.

@dansmith5724 3 жыл бұрын

Great episode as always!

@markp44288 3 жыл бұрын

This is the most personal you all have gotten, and I love it! You guys and gals would be so fun to hang out with. I am smiling ear to ear!

@viceboy5080 3 жыл бұрын

Last time I was this early, Italy was still struggling against the greeks

@avocatrobbins2189 3 жыл бұрын

Last time I was this early, Luigi Cardona was still fighting the first ten battles of the Isonzo River.

@frank6587 3 жыл бұрын

Enough to know the calendar and seasons.

@czarpeppers6250 3 жыл бұрын

Boy! I remember those early Great War days, seems like it was so long ago now. But I sincerely think you guys are doing some of the most important historical work of our generation. Compiling all these different sources week by week for people to be able to learn from. I was always a pretty big WW2 buff, but I have learned so many things from your episodes that have completely changed my perspective of many aspects of the war.

@worldwar2animation241 3 жыл бұрын

Love the content, keep going.

@pashapasovski5860 3 жыл бұрын

Old Joke my grandfather told was: Stalin looks at the mirror and says Joseph, I don't trust you either!

@darthfikus5206 3 жыл бұрын

>Stalin needed to stall for time. Hehe

@cortster12 3 жыл бұрын

Stalin went all-in with stall-in'.

@APRCraig 3 жыл бұрын

Can I just say this episode is one of my favourites just for the ending part. Deeply appreciate these look-ins to your production staff/values. Would be nice to see some videos of bloopers and fails and slipups and some personal thoughts on what you do.

@GuitarMan22 3 жыл бұрын

hey great post. really enjoyed todays update!!

@shlomomark2275 3 жыл бұрын

I read an interesting post on Facebook several years ago on the Soviet response to the Intelligence warnings on the coming German attack. According to the writer, a young Israeli historian (I'm not mentioning his name because I did not ask his permission for it) of Russian origin, Stalin and Golikov were looking for one telling sign for war - a German preparations for a winter war. Soviet agents were stealing oil from German vehicles in Poland and sending these samples to Moscow through diplomatic mail. Other agents collected samples of cotton cloth with gun oil around German army camps. Both were analyzed for anti-freeze additive to them. None were found. Golikov demanded from his staff to provide him a report, several times a day, of the price of Mutton in the foodstuff stock exchange in Europe, believing that in once the price of Mutton wile dive it will be a sign for the Germans preparing stocks of Sheep skins and wool for winter uniform. No change. In one point, after many intelligence warnings came, but no sign for German winter preparations, Stalin exclaimed that it can't be possible that the Germans believe that they can defeat the USSR in 3 months! The reality was that the Germans actually thought they could….

@indianajones4321 3 жыл бұрын

Many leaks about Barbarossa: Exist Stalin: Nah

@Stroporez 3 жыл бұрын

At that time USA had imposed sanctions on USSR for its military actions against Finland. Why would Stalin think that USA, that had shown itself to be adversarial, would share intelligence "just out of the goodness of their heart" ?

@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын

It's just a prank, bro!

@yochaiwyss3843 3 жыл бұрын

@@Stroporez but you wouldn't hear THAT said in the comments...

@bulletsalad3927 3 жыл бұрын

these guys are awesome ! the way they explain and tell the history is amazing it really draws you in

@deg6788 3 жыл бұрын

Top info...better than cable x100 thanks mate

@firingallcylinders2949 3 жыл бұрын

The juicy part of the war is coming up, I've heard rumors about Japan going to try something come years end. I can't wait for this channel in 1942.

@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын

1942?! But what do you mean? The war will be over by Christmas.

@UrWifiIsSlow 3 жыл бұрын

TheCimbrianBull no way, the russians will surrender in october and the british in March

@TacticalGAMINGzz 3 жыл бұрын

Good thing Hong Kong and British Malaya are well protected.

@dentoncrimescene 3 жыл бұрын

I know, i often feel guilty about how I look forward to terrible events.

@ollikoskinen1 3 жыл бұрын

The war will be over by Christmas, 1941, I can assure you!

@photonic1970 3 жыл бұрын

Really nice light, looks very nice! 👍🏼

@torgeirbrandsnes1916 3 жыл бұрын

A person who had to leave Germany when the Nazi`s came to power later became the mayor of Berlin and he was the big boss of the BDR. The time away from Germany he spent in Norway and befriended with all the Sosialist democrats. He won the Nobel peace price. Who is this man? None other than Willy Brandt! Keep up the good work!

@dragonstormdipro1013 3 жыл бұрын

Was there intel about Stalin's heart attack too?

@maximilianolimamoreira5002 3 жыл бұрын

i don't think such a thing exists,but he made the mistake of killing his own doctors.😬

@vorynrosethorn903 3 жыл бұрын

Who knows, has anyone ever taken a look in Berias files.

@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын

True story: Stalin had instructed his bodyguards to not enter his room no matter what. He faked a heart attack and his bodyguards rushed in to save him. He was disappointed in them for disobedience and had them executed.

@diarradunlap9337 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCimbrianBull Had they obeyed and NOT come in, he would probably have had them executed for disloyalty, anyway.

@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын

@@diarradunlap9337 you just can't win!

@brianaguila6925 3 жыл бұрын

For a guy who didn't trusted anybody, Stalin really made good use of the British intel about the Kursk Salient.

@skymaster4743 3 жыл бұрын

By 1943, Stalin was a different guy at least when it came to military affairs. He listened to the advise of Marshal Zhukov, Vasilevsky and his General Staff. Stalin also understood the importance of intelligence at that stage of the war.

@RoboticDragon 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, and I loved the end.

@tonyhayes4980 3 жыл бұрын

Great stuff

@Duke_of_Lorraine 3 жыл бұрын

1:50 "the war is won" Hitler : let's declare war on the USA just because Japan bombed some ships in Hawaii

@erikthomsen4768 3 жыл бұрын

They didn’t even hit anything important.

@spectreshadow 3 жыл бұрын

@@erikthomsen4768 Tell that to the sailors that died.

@Duke_of_Lorraine 3 жыл бұрын

@@erikthomsen4768 I wouldn't say that but they failed at crippling the US navy.

@AndreLuis-gw5ox 3 жыл бұрын

I dont get why people talk about the german dow on the USA as, if the nazis simply didnt declared war, the americans would not get involved. All Hitler did was take the lead on the inevitable. At least that way the kriegsmarine would be able to target american vessels without risk of negative repercutions

@Valdagast 3 жыл бұрын

US destroyers were already sinking German U-boats by that time. For all practical purposes, they were at war.

@maxpaxe5677 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the thumbnail Is cat or bunny stalin

@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын

It's Stalin Neko.

@genghiskhan5701 3 жыл бұрын

Zhukov:Comrade, the Germans are preparing for an attack Stalin-neko:I dont believe anything you say nya!

@the1ghost764 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy 😉 all these episodes. Sometimes I watch them 2 or 3 times to understand our history.

@williamgustavocampoyalves2821 3 жыл бұрын

Astrid needs to show up more here, keep up the terrific work, people! Cheers from Brazil

@USSAnimeNCC- 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah came here as fast as the Blitzkrieg

@necromorph1109 3 жыл бұрын

Love you guys. Here in the US we do not really teach World history that much and your channel is a breath of fresh hair.

@zico739 3 жыл бұрын

Depends where you are in the US.

@taureaurouge3315 3 жыл бұрын

@@zico739 yep, and the curriculum you choose. Not only does it vary by state, it also varies by individual school districts within the state. Additionally, it will vary if you take College Prep, Honors, Advanced Placement, or International Baccalaureate

@necromorph1109 3 жыл бұрын

@@taureaurouge3315 I just ment Middle school, High school They teach almost no history nowadays. And A lot of College require a lot less history and more English and Math nowadays. Just my observation.

@taureaurouge3315 3 жыл бұрын

@@necromorph1109 what do you mean? I've learned more history in my freshman and senior years of high school combined than any other period of my life. And in my sophomore and junior years I learned some of the most in-depth US history than I ever had before

@beaumartinez8705 3 жыл бұрын

These guys are hilarious! I can't wait for the movie. I've been watching since the 2nd year of the Great War an am always impressed. Keep up the great work 👍

@hash-slingingslasher1374 3 жыл бұрын

The shadow from that model plane is really nice 👌

@Ystadcop 3 жыл бұрын

Astrid is fab.

@luxembourgishempire2826 3 жыл бұрын

A lot

@TheCimbrianBull 3 жыл бұрын

#thirdBeneluxCountry

@jeremy28135 3 жыл бұрын

Indy you are so good at this. 👌

@kcharles8857 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant series. Should be in schools.

@gonshi9 3 жыл бұрын

Im starting to read books about ww2, and as I read recently in Thunder on the Dneper (if I remember correctly the name) Stalin knew and believed those reports about the invasion, but in order to his plans to work (Made togheter with zhukov and timoshenko, sorry for misspeling if there is), he had to act as he wasn't aware. That would prevent Germans from changing his plans, and also would make the first echelon of the ussr not feel like they were going to be sacrificed, wich they were. I recommend the book

@gonshi9 3 жыл бұрын

Stalin risked it to not provoke the Germans in any way, even if that meant that the frontier would be weaker the first months of the war. Of course he knew (at least that's what the books says) that the war couldn't be avoided, but he had to try to delay it as long as possible

@LunaNicoleTheFox 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone: Germany will invade the USSR Stalin: Im going to do what is called a pro gamer move.

@davidcrossey 3 жыл бұрын

Here is some extra intelligence - brilliant special guys! Astrid was also fantastic; I hope we see more of her in the future (when she is not designing these amazing sets of course)