I can’t wait to try all these products just to still be silver

Subtile flex with the Deadlift and Squats weight 😂 Got to love Optimum for that

I like that optimum is actually taking the time to try out niche products like this

The OG glass pad is actually the SteelSeries IceMat that came out almost 20 years ago. I used one for years and loved it. The disadvantage is that if any small bit of hard dust gets between the mouse feet and the glass, it feels really bad until you clean the mouse and the glass pad thoroughly.

Sometimes I forget how buff this man is

'I used to do power lifting' no wonder Ali is so buff

Would have been neat to see a before and after comparison with an aim program: cloth vs. glass pads

I got Razer's glass mouse pad (the "Atlas") a couple months ago, and it is the best gaming peripheral upgrade I've made in... maybe ever. I think the implementation of different glass mats may give a very different experience, but the Razer mat totally works for me. It is so smooth and consistent (totally agree with the video, way better than using glass skates), basically infinitely durable (some of my cloth mouse pads were ruined almost instantly by a cat claw puncture), and impossibly easy to clean with a simple wipe (again the cat, hair is a problem). I find I can easily adjust how fast it is by how much of my hand I let spill over the mouse and touch the pad. I do use a sleeve from the wrist up, but I don't find that it's a problem to have some of my palm touching the glass. I tend to actually prefer it, it slows movement down enough to give control comparable to a cloth mat, and gives me tactile feedback that I find comforting. My hands generally don't get sweaty, so it's still plenty fast, just not as slippery. In a situation where I need to make bigger and faster movements, I can just lift my hand up a bit to reduce the amount of contact with the pad, and movement is blazing fast. And again I can't emphasize enough how much better it is versus glass skates on the mouse, a totally different (and much better) experience.

Even this dude’s hair dryer is aesthetically pleasing

Glass Mousepads he used (4:06): *Cerapad KIN* - Highest friction, most stopping power *Pulsar Superglide Pad* - In the middle, some stopping power, but still extremely smooth *Skypad 3.0 XL* - Lowest friction, least stopping power

To me, the idea of "registering every small movement" is closer to "registering every small imperfection/jitter" I think it's a really cool idea and it might suit some people, but sensitivity in 3D games is not just software settings. The friction between the mouse and arm against the mousepad is important and it's all part in how the aiming feels. The more of that friction you take away, the more of the stability you take away from it and thus, every little thing will ultimately affect your in-game aim. I think there's definitely a sweet spot with friction and if you have too much you lose control, if you have too little, you lose stability. I think this kind of mousepad would definitely not be a positive for me, but then again I've spent years playing mostly FPS games on a cloth pad and I'm used with the feel of it. My muscle memory has developed side by side with friction, so it's all just natural to me. I don't think that trade-off is worth it to get less friction. Who's to say some people that have gotten used to glass pads will be the same or better, though ?

Awrsome vid! The razer atlas is also inbetween the super and the skypad friction wise, i found that to be my favourite pad :D

Im hyped for the ultralight mouse to be available. Being able to get something so light hopefully without shelling out absurd prices will be nice.

Definitely earned the like for those lifts alone! 220kg deadlift is impressive! 💪

I've been using a shin sleeve on my forearm for the longest time when playing games and even for regular computer use. It protects my skin from friction against the table and mousepad, and it's pretty easy to put on and off.

so after all, will you stick with the glass pad? Are you actually better on it? (or predict to be better after like another 30 days of practice?) Would you say superglide pad is noticably more stable than skypad 3? I have the skypad 3 and I might consider the superglide one.

Being someone who lifts and cares about his physique, I knew this guy had big ass forearm but man 4 plate squat and 5 plate deadlift, that was something quite unexpected. I mean you don’t imagine Austin Evans or Jayztwocent or Linus repping over 400 lbs on Squat and Deadlift right?

Most cracked gamer techtuber award goes to Optimum Tech 😂

Thank you for the very interesting video. Top marks as always, sir! What's also interesting is why you chose to wear such a relaxed fit shirt and deprived your viewers of appreciating those Optimum Biceps. ;)

I HAVE MAINED GLASS PADS FOREVER. I love the glass pads for sniping because you use your fingers and hands to get an amazing feel for small adjustments. but close quarters are rough because your hand sweats and sticks. The sleeve helps with removing this aspect from your arm but it still exists in other parts of your hand. another reason glass pads aren't good is the oils in your hand is constantly changing the slide on the glass. I recently made the switch to pads and am having greater success in close quarter battles.

Bro you have actually become my new favourite tech channel. Thank you for making such high quality vids

I think one big benefit of glass is the longevity, with cloth pads youll get some dust and crumbs in it with time

Hey @OptimumTech. I am happy to see you have added a scroll wheel to your custom mouse! I would be very interested in buying one as I am a light mouse glass pad enthusiast. Please keep us posted on the production of the mouse and where to buy one.

Out of curiosity, have you done an incline test for friction? It might be able to give more consistant values to compare, although the blow test was pretty cool. Basically, set the mouse on the pad and raise the mousepad from one of its edges. Have a level (some phones have a tool built in) and see at what degree does the mouse start to move. This only measures static friction between mouse and pad. Friction scales linearly so the weight of the mouse has no effect. The kinetic friction is always lower than the static friction so it gives you a general idea on that too.

I love quality of these videos, the effort that go's into these videos is like no one else. Keep it up man👍

2:50 is the lore to why he is so jacked

Holy shit like I can see you are working out in your videos (big biceps, traps, and chest) but I didn't expect you to be a fellow powerlifter! with a decent 500+ deadlift too

I am definitely interested in your mouse for sure. keep us posted. I recently tried a fingertip mouse and I really really like it

I got myself a Superglide pad after watching this video, and suprisingly my experience is a bit different to Ali's. I immediately feel that I can track better and flick more accurately in games like Apex because of the low static friction. Also, the high friction between skin and glass pads cause little to no issue to me. Since I am using wrist aiming, playing without a sleeve is doable as most of the time there is no need to move my arm across the pad.

it's interesting you prefer the superglide, i didnt like it when i tried it. I tried the skypad 3.0, the razer atlas and the superglide. I actually main the cerapad kin, it is good for tracking games too in my opinion

I've got the XXL and XL size to coat the entire front part of my desk. I love it!

I swapped over with the release of pulsars Superglide glass pad. It def took a bit to get used to it, but man oh man, once you get the feeling and hang of glass pads down, it just becomes like cheating. It’s sooooo worth it to put the time in. One other thing I will say is that I don’t really ever get the skin sticking to the glass to where I need a sleeve unless it gets real hot. For the most part since I’ve got super hairy arms it doesn’t bother me. But to each their own on that front

Best gamer tech channel on KZfaq. Great vid as always mate.

I am sure I remember you trying the Skypad before and not being a fan, so it is kind of cool to see you revisit glass pads and stick to it for 30 days. I've got the Skypad 3.0 and Cerapad Kin, haven't tried the Pulsar yet because I'd heard if you have Skypad it's not hugely different; but kind of intrigued by it now. I think for me personally I found that my micro corrections when using say flatline/R301 long range on Apex were much better (I tend not to jitter aim because it just feels like it's going to mess my wrist up and I'd like to be able to play FPS for a long time to come) but I also found that my close range click timing (PK/Wingmang) was off but that is probably just my mouse control. One thing I did really like about glass pads is how unique/fun they feel to use. So many cloth pads these days just feel the same or are ever so slightly different. I think glass really challenges your aim too.

Love this! Love the hair drier test. Can you do all glass pads you have with the hair drier? Very curious to understand the king stopping power. Arctica v1 seems like a new control pad too

dude ive been looking into getting a sleeve or somthing for my wrist just for my cloth pad. never knew they had the sleeves! this is sick might have to get a glass pad

Squat is at least 160 (not including bar so more than that. Deadlift hard to say cuz theres little plates on the end but the normal plates are 20kg 5 on each side so very munimum 200kg (without bar) which is absolutely nuts

I'm a bit late to this, just found your channel tonight and have been binging through a lot of your old vids, but the discussion about the sleeve REALLY spoke to me. I'm also a powerlifter and I think that comparison is perfect. I started playing with a sleeve about a month ago and it's seriously made a massive difference for me. My room in my house doesn't have any airflow due to it being part of an original bigger room that was later made into 2, it's on the side of the house that gets sunlight all day, and most of my gaming comes between 2-8PM. All these factors basically make my room feel like a sauna while I'm playing and I'm already someone who sweats more than the average person. The struggles on playing and constantly sticking to my mouse pad and frequently having my inputs messed up because of that were beyond irritating. For me specifically with all that context, putting a sleeve on seriously may have been a bigger buff to my gameplay than going from 60hz to 244hz, it was that extreme. Obviously this is probably a more extreme case, but for anyone who has regular issues or even just annoyance with sweaty wrists or arms, I think trying out playing with a sleeve is someone you should heavily consider. Having the friction between your arm and mousepad always be constant is big and consistency is something we look for in other areas. I mean imagine playing with your chair 6 inches higher or lower or playing a foot further back from your desk. Maybe you think you'll feel cringe doing it, but that feeling will go away quickly if you feel improvements. I felt the same about knee sleeves in powerlifting until I tried them and started loving them. Really love that you spoke about sleeves and I related big time since my gaming experience has gotten so much better recently since I started using one.

I got a GSR II and I use a sleeve too. I'm a Raze main in Valo and it's an amazing help with faster verticality adjustments. Figure that's gotta be accented more so in OW.

I've been using Skypad 3.0 XL for quite a while now, very used to it. Only in some rare cases I find it a bit lack in control, partially due to my med-high sens. No need for sleeve at all.

For the cerapad kin, there’s actually a huge breaking in period before it smooths out and becomes less tuggy/muddy. It’ll still have stopping power but it’s a lot better when you break it in. Get some random pair of skates and go over the entire pad as if you were cleaning in but instead you’re trying to break in every centimeter of the pad.

I didn't realize your mouse was headed to production, cool as hell

did you make sure to get past the break-in period of the cerapad kin? out of the box it’s terrible, after an hour it’s better, but after the 20 hour suggested break-in, there’s sooooo much more glide with an amazing amount of stopping power. it feels like the perfect balance you could get in a glass pad

I bought some generic compression sleeves both to help reduce sticking on my armrest (shallow desk so can't fit my whole arm on it) and to keep good bloodflow and warmth to my arms, which has reduced fatigue/soreness in my joints over long play sessions. It has improved my long-term performance and physical health, I would definitely recommend trying it out considering you can get sleeves for less than $10 a pair. Seems silly at first glance, but if you play a game competitively, it's really no different from investing in new peripherals!

I've always played w/ a max weight G502 for years. I'm gonna give this a go. What I'm thinking is w/ the heaver weighted mouse + accuracy. Cool idea.

"I thought the sleeve might be too much" says bro as he's holding a battery attached to a scroll wheel and 2 switches instead of a mouse 💀

I've been playing with rubberised fingerless (just the tips) gloves and a neoprene compression fitting for padding my wrist for years. Bonus is no RSI because that's what an RSI wrist strap does. - also helps to keep my fingers warmer in colder months so they don't get stiff after long sessions either. With rubberised gloves (basic fabric work gloves with the palms and fingers rubberised) using a Hotas style joystick there's also much less need to grip hard to maintain hand placement. Win all round.

Received my glass superglide pad after watching this video, I've been loving it. I use no gloves seems fine for me, also required almost no adjustment.

Dang, buddy is strong as hell, casually squating 405 🔥

I think the problem people have with glass mouse pad being "unstable" is due to the sensitivity they are using. I play on really low sens (61 cm/360), so the matter of small movements isn't an obstacle, but improved with a faster surface.

For tournament players always bring a soft pad to place under the hard pad. Helps with leveling out tables/desk setups where there can be inconsistency. Shout out to OGs users that remember the icemat days.

I used to have a Steelseries hard pad for multiple years about 15 years ago. Abrasion has occurred over time in the areas where I moved the mouse frequently. It was more difficult to move the mouse in those areas. It felt slower. Imagine sliding on an ice sidewalk it's gonna be super smooth. Now try to do the same thing after Sidewalk Salt has been applied. You can still slide but it's gonna be much harder. I hope it makes sense. Another issue was the desk surface. It was okay on my computer desk but when I went to a LAN with my friends then it was a different story. I had to use a cloth pad to create a smooth surface and then I put the hard pad on the top. So I was using two mouse pads at the same time. Another thing was the friction. It wasn't super loud but it was noticeable.

super interrested in that mouse optimum! also like the flex with the weights :D

Are we seeing the beggining of optimum lift? 3:06 great form btw

800k subs already. That was fast. Congrats.

I think finding "too fast" and "too slow" pads are necessary to know if you've found the perfect pad for you. I haven't tried glass, but the vancer ice was too fast for me. I used to think my artisan zero xsoft was perfect, but found out after the lamzu energon that the zero was too slow

Can’t wait till an update video on the custom mouse

I think glass pads are a cool idea, and I sure some truly talented and practiced aimers can pull it off, but I think the slight amount of friction gained from a cloth pad give you better control and consistency in game. I also wonder if over time your mouse feet will become more worn down with a glass pad, but it seems that you didn't deal with that after 30 days so maybe its a non issue. Really appreciate your thorough review of these products because its really mirrors what my thought process and methodology would be if I were to buy something like this! :^)

Curious to try a glass mousepad now, can’t lie. Cloth has always been and always will be my go to, but the frictionless potential really has my interest piqued! Nice vid Optimum! 👌

Nice Video! By the way regarding the compression sleeves, I intuitively used one of my painting gloves for graphic tablets and it actually made a difference while playing, which was pretty cool :D

You are my go to tech man for everythingg.

ty for the vid and trying this for 30 days

God damn i could tell you had gains but the deadlift shocked me good on ya m8

I've had an aluminum sort of teflon-coated surface made by Corsair for years. It's pretty good. Two different textures, one on each side. I think its tough to beat. Not sure if they even sell it anymore.

Does it stop right away even though its glass? Or does it brake right away?

"I used to compete in deadlifting" 90% of the viewers: " That explains the weapons in every video"

I swapped from softpad to hardpad and had a similar experience. I used it for 1 year and swapped back because I didn't feel comfortable with the sensitivity, it hurt my wrist and I had less place to move as there are no desk-wide hardpads. You can have the exact same settings on a mouse, as soon as you swap your surface, your sensitivity can change drastically.

The Ninja FX pads with a sheen - they have some kind of glass or plastic texture on them that’s super slick - are just about perfect for me. I found them on a trip to Japan where I got to try tons that they had out in stores. Also picked up a Realforce R2 PFU with optical switches. Best feeling stock keyboard I’ve ever felt.

Omg glass mouse pads are back 😂 back to the start of 2000's with Icemats and Intellimouse 3 with Teflon tape 😁😁

my alcohol stained anime deskpad keeps me in global so thatll do

Thanks for this detailed video of your experience with glass mousepads, mate. This got me really curious as I've been a cloth mousepad user my entire life, and wanted to try a glass mousepad for something different. I purchased and have been using the L sized Pulsar Super Glide mousepad and Pulsar arm sleeve for 2 weeks now with a Logitech G Pro X Superlight. Early thoughts are that it definitely takes a little getting used to, especially if you're coming from a cloth pad with more control. Regularly cleaning dust from the mousepad is a must, otherwise it feels like sand gritting under the mouse and it's just awful. This was really annoying at first, but I'm kind of used to it now. I've experienced 2 spin outs from my mouse sensor, but thankfully in the Apex firing range and not a live game. Still, something to be wary of, at least with the G Pro Superlight. Maybe it had some light dust on it that I didn't realize, and I should quickly clean it with a microfiber cloth before every use. I use 800 dpi 1.8 sensitivity for Apex and 5 in Overwatch. Using this mousepad when it's clean does feel pretty nice for tracking. While it seems okay for tactical shooters like Valorant and CSGO, it's probably not ideal due to lower stopping power, and I would agree players focused on tactical shooters should get a cloth mousepad with more control. I could be wrong, but I don't think a single CSGO or Valorant pro uses a glass pad, and probably for good reason. I know of a few in Apex (i.e. Zer0), but that could just be a Skypad sponsorship thing idk. The idea of never having to buy another mousepad again as long as I clean and look after this Pulsar Super glide is somewhat appealing, but I'm not sure if this is for me long term yet, as I have mixed use cases and don't just play track heavy FPS games like Apex. I'll stick with it for at least 3 months as I'm not underperforming in games, and definitely need more time to get used to it. Give it a go if you've got the money to spare and want to try something different/fun, but don't' expect it to improve your game at all, especially not in the first several weeks.

I prefer the glass Infused cloth mousepads from Glorious, helps with the issue of wrist/arm getting stuck but provides the least friction and just feels better than just cloth or a harder material

skypad the OG? now listen here son. Let me tell you the story of the icemat. It came out in 2001 and was for a while the preferred pad for FPS gaming. Together with teflon pads for your mouse it was unparalleled. I do not know why people stoped using it but i can assure you that skypad is not the OG. Not even by a long shot.

The skypad is not the OG glass mousepad... the OG glass mousepad is the Icemat (now Steelseries) from 2001. Also, I'm surprised that you didn't tested the Razer Atlas.

I've been using a Skypad 3.0 since May of 2022. You really don't need a sleeve, but keeping the room cool or having a fan blow directly on you helps. Baseline skin friction isn't noticeable. Sweat is.

Hope there are smaller pads. Those things are huge. Thanks for your channel, BTW. Really informative. 👍

Doesn't glass to glass also scratch?

I’ve been using the razar atlas I think it’s called for my glass pad and so far I have no issues with my skin rubbing raw or sticking at all honestly. But I love using it. Took me a week or so to get use to the “twitchy” aim. Of it feeling more precise. But to glide alone a mouse pad without my arm being burned off by a normal mouse pad is very nice. Saves my arm so much more

appreciate your info on the subject!

would love to hear another update in a month or so to see how your aim is, been debating switching to glass for a while

In the end it's all about physics. The coefficient of static friction should be as close as possible to the kinetic coefficient of friction, like in human joints for example. That way you don't have this breaking loose effect to throw you off. I personally use the glorious ice pad with ceramic skates

Hey, great video! I am in a process of buying the glass mousepad and i just remember a thing…. 20 years ago i was using Everglide Giganta mousepad and back in the days we used to lube mousepad with silicon spray for less friction and smooth use. Did you ever consider lubing mousepad?

w song choice, love the production on the new pinkpanthress

The friction noise is what killed them for me when they first were a thing many years ago. Constant noise when moving the mouse, and it seems to be there here too with everything but the glass pads on glass mat.

If you want a pad that isnt glass but is basically as smooth as glass check out the Vancer Ice V2 . It is my endgame mousepad after trying multiple different speed cloth and glass pads. I love it

i got the glass pad from razer, but the transition was so much better than i thought, didn't struggle to control the mouse at all compared to a cloth pad

hey man great video like always, but i was wondering if we will get the 3d files for custom mouse ?

I love my skypad simply because of how it seems to perfect my aim. That is when my pad is clean... When a tiny bit of dust or dirt gets on the pad it my aim feels really off. Something I haven't experienced on other pads. I had to clean it daily which was a huge burden. Also had the same experience with my arm having to use a sleeve.

That mice you're making looks sick dude!!!

What I've found with glass is that training with it regularly improves my mouse control when using my "competitive" cloth pads.

The way I see it, it’s a similar transition to writing/drawing on a tablet (with stylus) from traditional pen(cil) and paper. You just have to get used to the absolute lack of friction, which is a harder transition to undergo for some. I’m down to cop a glasspad, but I’m not a gamer. As an architect, figured it could optimize some of my CAD workflow

Using a glass mousepad, sleeve and specific mice makes perfect sense in my opinion. Your mouse is your eyes, so there is always room for tuning. I switched to a Kensington SlimBlade and don't put any fire controls on the clicks. Instead I use SPACE for primary fire, SHIFT for aim & E for jumping. I use the extra mouse buttons for other things, left click is run for example. I prefer a 44mm ball that feels like it's floating in one spot. I can clean it in the middle of a game if I have a second, and it actually needs a little grimy before it moves smoothly. It needs to be sensitive enough that I don't have to throw the curser, but also slow enough that I can microaim after throwing it. Throwing the ball too fast will make it skip, so that is also a constraint but I rely on more 90 degree turns as opposed to 180 to make up for this. Obviously smoothing and acceleration are not good because I have the ball's mass to play with instead. Literally everything about it is different, but at the end of the day I'm having no issue playing the best I ever have on a PC. I feel the biggest difference between the two is how you pitch the curser; with a trackball you throw it where you want it to land, but with a mouse you move it to where you want. Having to do as little work with the mouse is important, because it already uses so much of the body.

Having used the ACTUAL OG icemat from what is now steelseries for many MANY years when it first came out in 2001 (2002) where i live, i can only say that they are amazing to game on, and at the same time hurts your hands if you're a person who rests his hand on the mouse pad while mousing. I miss that old frosted clear mousepad.

I tried glass skates on my mouse a while back. I mostly play CS. My experience was that one tapping and micro adjustments was great but spraying and holding angles was damn near impossible. Haven't tried glass anything in a while but this is interesting.

Hey mate, any chance you could look into the Cerapad Kin and consider giving that a go and maybe a review? It's a more control-focused glass pad that's pretty unique. Cheers!

Regarding glass mouse feet: Try them with a cordura mousepad. They don't have that same inconsistency in feel like they do with normal cloth pads. I use superglides on a G Pro SL with an End Game Gear MCP450 cordura pad. It's a night and day difference compared to using them with cloth pads.

Years ago(like 2014), I had the idea of making a gaming sleeve. Even if it shows no improvement in performance, its a way that brands can sponsor or promote products. I never pursued it. wish I did.

i bought one on amazon and tried it for a week. My old one was a corsair mouse pad out of aluminum. It has two different surfaces, one side slow and the other superfast. Both side have some friction, give me the feeling i move the mouse against some kind of resistance. The Glass Pad on the other side, has absolute no friction. And no matter how hard i tried to like it, it just not worked out for me in any fps game. It is fast, but it also glides out of position when i try to aim. I must use more pressure to hold the mouse on this spot when in firing situation. It's hard to describe. At the end of the day, i switched back to my old corsair alu pad and gave this glass pad away

The one thing I would say (and this is more about the testing method than the product itself) I would use a game with more precise hitboxes than OW. That way you can much more accurately get down the feel of making micro-adjustments in an environment that can better reflect the minute differences between that and a normal mousepad.

Were you able to cop a ultralight x ?? If so you gonna be doing a review on it when it comes in ??