Your photography is on point as always, Ali! Like your approach to these comparisions!

I’m glad I didn’t wait for the b550 with my 3700x, it runs like a champ on the b450-i strix, as always well made video

Thank you so much, I was looking to upgrade to the HZXT H1, so this video came at a perfect time

Yes! Been waiting for this

Thank you for creating these videos that are concise but detailed comparisons and target what people want to know!

Great video as always. Just need to obtain one of these boards to complete my PC build.

The biggest technical advantage of X570 is the option to add a second Gen 4 NVMe drive. You only get 20 lanes Gen 4 lanes from the CPU with B550, which leaves you with x16/x4 4.0 between your x16 PCIe slot and your primary M.2. The X570 provides an additional x4 4.0 uplink, where the B550 will only provide x4 3.0 uplink for the second M.2 slot.

Thanks for the comparison and insights.. very helpful. Thumbs up!!

Awww man was really hoping for your take on Gigabyte and ASRock as well! They seem to have the best on offer next to MSI for B550

i've been waiting for this since b550 was announced :) thanks

I didn't know that you were a fellow Australian! Love your videos. I bought the asus rog strix b550-f Wi-Fi for my 3300x, can't wait to build it.

Oh Boy yes, i've been waiting for this video!

Just noticed his biceps are bigger than most of the cases he reviewed so far xD

Very helpful. Nicely explained and I understand the board differences much better now. Thanks!

Optimum Tech thanks for this video first because I'm finding a mobo in amd segment that has front panel usb type c for my lian Li PC tu 150 build.Thanks again bro.

Thanks for this video, I know I’m a year late but I really needed this exactly video. I’m looking at both of these asus mobos.

That bent fan header pin at 1:38. Your cinematography and quality is too good, I can see board imperfections.

I went for B450 for a 3600, mostly because the B550 was not released yet, the prices were going to be quite higher than the price i got for the b450-F strix (I know it's ATX), and considering the price difference i don't regret the features vs the money. Great vid, as always! I'm not an ITX fan (don't get me wrong, i love your ITX Builds) but i always step by, watch the video and toss a like ;D

just realized ma dudes in Australia! great video man. Looking at the Gigabyte b550 and x570 , the x570 is actually $9 less on Amazon atm so I think I'll go with that one. Great Video as always

Thanks very much, i was juste waiting for your opinions on B550i or B570i.

Yeah I’ve been waiting for a comparison of the two

Great video. It helped a lot. Straight to the point, no mumbo-jumbo.

Video nd compression that we need with really good explanation 👍

This channel is so underated. You deserve more subscribers.

Are you planning on looking at the asrock b550 Phantom gaming itx as well? It has a rather interesting io-layout that seems to be optimized for sandwich-style cases. And (for whom it might concern) it is the only itx board without a fan while still having the internal usb-c header. Thank you for the video, it was quite interesting to see the "difference" made by the asus' vrm-fan.....

Hey Ali! Finally an overview video of B550i Mobos from you! I want to see a detailed thermal performance comparison between MSI MPG B55OI and ASUS STRIX B550I mobos using only air coolers and Noctua fans in Ncase M1 builds. The components could include Ryzen 3700 (or 4700), Noctua U9s (or any other cooler you see fit), 2080-Ti (3080 or Big Navi would be better), 16GB 3600mhz Ram (or higher), one Gen 4 M.2 NVME SSD, and a large enough PSU. The point is to see if I build a gaming rig with these parts using either board, which one could give me PS5 or XBOX Seriex X level gaming performance while maintaining low temps and noise next to my future 4K TV. I know it's a lot to ask from you to build such a specific system, but it would be very popular I suppose and might give you a boost in terms of subs, given how high the hype is before the next gen consoles' releases. If you could not build one exactly as I requested, which is totally cool, could you please at least build an ITX gaming rig using only air coolers and fans that could sufficiently cool the next gen GPU 3080(Super/Ti or 3090) or Big Navi? I heard they could come with a monstrous TDP of 300W to 350W. Beisides comparing the thermal performance/noise to next gen consoles, I really want to learn how you could arrange as many fans as possible inside Ncase M1 with only three 4-pin headers on both of these boards. I noticed that you don't highlight how you split the fan cables in your previous ITX builds. Is header shortage not so big an issue if you use AIO or am I just not smart enough to figure it out myself? ASUS Strix B550I has all three headers (CPU FAN, CHASIS FAN, AIO_PUMP) capped at Max 1A / 12W (Manual P20/68), while MSI MPG B550I has different configurations for each, CPU FAN (Max 2A / 24W), PUMP_FAN (Max 3A / 36W) SYS_FAN (1A 12W) (Manual P38/69). How many fans could you use? Which header would you connect which fans to? How many fans would you split out of each header? Would you use DC AIO PUMP header as fan header and connect a seperate fan controller to regulate the fan speed with voltages? How do you control/coordinate fan speed if spliting makes some of the fans not PWM compatible? What would be the best configuration for each board? I might be asking for two different videos, but as a noob to PC building, I would appreciate that you mention how to split fan cables and utilize multiple fans with limited headers in your future videos, especially if someone's being forced into such an instance. There are two other reasons for my first request: the first one is that in China where there are ridiculously strict security check procedures, passengers could not pass a checkpoint carrying any form of liquid without drinking it to prove its safety if he/she wants to board a public transport (eg. train, subway), and any item holding more than 100ml of liquid must be put in check-in luggage where they could be easily damaged (like United Airline breaking the guitar) or opened & checked without owner's consent/presence, or drained if he/she wants to take the empty container onboard, thus exluding the option of fitting an AIO in an ITX computer if you want to travel with it in China; the second reason being the intention to see my idea properly tested as practical by a pro before I invest a few thousand hard-owned dollars into such a set-up.

In this breakdown, would love to see what the VRM quality between boards does to temps, as if it is a large delta it could affect what cooling you need in cases that don't support anything but small air coolers. Or at least let you time down the fan profiles. Sounds dumb to spend an extra $100 on just for that, but then again we're the same people buying premium fans.

I’d love to see your take on the cheaper B550 boards, like the Gigabyte and ASrock boards

Great video, thanks for the comparison of these two mainboards. I´m curently watching the B550 ITX Mainboard market. When we are talking I/O one additional difference between the two boards is the spec of the Type-C Front Header. According to the manufacturer specs the ASUS does have USB 3.2 Gen2 10GBit/s while MSI does have Gen1 5 GBit/s. FYI

??? didnt know you're in AU mate! love your channel.

First video to actually answer my questions over these boards. Thanks

Thank you for the comparisons! Really helps making that B550 decision!

Thank you! I been waiting for this comparison/review. I am running a Strix x570-i & 3700x. I actually bought the board on pre-order after waiting months with Asus delaying the release. If at the time the B550-i was an option, I definitely would have opted for that instead. On another note... I'm incredibly bitter the B550-i got a Type-C Header and the X570-i didnt. Thats BS.

Do you think you could do some reviews/thermal tests with mini tower cases suited to Micro ATX? A lot of users don't want to go SFF but want a small case like the cooler NR400, Mb311L, Meshify C mini. Would be nice to see how high end GPU/CPU combos did in them. Personally looking to get a O11D mini when it releases

I bought the Strix B450-i because of your recommendation. so far really happy with it and I don't think pcie gen 4 will be an issue before I need to make another upgrade.

you deserved my like! great video

Please make a b550 mini itx round up. Love the content. Cheers 🍻

Definitely makes me more confident in my MSI B550i order. Now if they would just ever actually come in stock and ship...

finally! the video i was waiting for! i was anxious if i made the right choice to buy the B450 or waited for the b550 but im glad i did go for the b450, some features on the b550 i dont need... I just bought a B450 itx from asrock and im digging it good! paired it with 2nd gen ryzen 5 2600, but if i want to upgrade it when i have the budget at least i know it will do great with 3rd gen from AMD, it also already have type-C on the back io so thats a plus...

It's very strange how none of the X570i boards have a USB C front panel header.

Would love to see Optimum Tech's take on the Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro AX! According to Buildzoid it has a serious VRM, and finally also has the dual M.2 ports. Here (Norway) it is also quite a bit cheaper than both the MSI and Asus ITX B550 boards.

I've just finished a build using the Asus TUF gaming plus x570 mboard and am delighted with it. Not to go into too much detail I've used a Ryzen 5 3600X (3600 is fine without the so called overclocking x prefix and you can save money) 16Gb DDR4 ram with EVGA GPU 1060 and paired with my Samsung 55inch 4K tv the pc system works phenomenally well re streaming/gaming et What I looked for re my nieces build was some future proofing re CPU, memory, other devices. This certainly allows for that. Though I will NOT use vega graphics enabled CPUs AND I take serious note now re motherboards and Ryzen compatibility. Great vid and once again informative.

Would love to see a review of the Gigabyte B550I AORUS Pro AX

I'm just staring at his biceps flex a little bit every now and then when he moves his arm while listening to him talking. Mesmerising.

good job brother,love content,i like it

Thx bro nice work

Thank you! I've been having such a hard time with my choice of the MSI B550 MB. I keep wondering if I should take it back and get a X570 or a different B550. There's just too many choices now XD

Looking at the new PS5 hardware with high speed storage, one can argue that future games will require a fast interconnect all the way from storage to the GPU. PCI Express 4.0 definitely helps in that regard. A lack of games today that don't take advantage of high speed interconnect doesn't mean that it won't be necessary in the upcoming few years.

Hello, Optimum Tech ~ I like your video very much. I hope you will continue to make more related videos for new computer products and research. This time I have a problem with the CPU heat dissipation BLACK RIDGE that I have studied in B550 and before. It is when BLACK RIDGE is installed in On the bottom plate of the B550M.. Will the GPU slot on the motherboard also be covered? Because I have seen you in-depth research and discussed that this heat sink has more or less compatibility issues with many ITX motherboards. For example, after installation, it will I lowered the height and covered the GPU slot and the motherboard VRM radiator is too large. And I use the MATX motherboard. But I did buy it too quickly and forgot this problem. So now I want to ask.. I don’t know BLACK RIDGE Can the radiator be fully compatible with the GIGABYTE B550M AROUS PRO motherboard. If it is not compatible, then I will return the radiator to the seller as soon as possible and choose another radiator. If there are other friends who know the actual situation.. I hope to share with you. .Thank you for your help

@Optimum Tech: One thing myself and MANY other's (check sffpc reddit) wanted to know was the difference between the Asrock (90A), Gigabyte (90A), Msi (60A), & Asus (50A). Huge topic right now is wether or not these power phase make a difference and wether Asus is simply overcharging for no reason and which one of these is truly the best to go for in terms of B550 Mini-itx mobo. Your take, explanation, and pick on this topic would be the best and much appreciated as your channel focuses on Mini-ITX!

How have you gotten your hands on that msi board? I haven't seen it appear anywhere else physically except in that msi stream!

I'm just about to put a 3900x into our x470 board - should I upgrade to a b550....? Primarily a gaming rig with some minor video creation.......and probably a bit of school work.... Thanks, great episode 🎅

We have all been waiting for this for a little while

Can't wait to see 4000 series tested between b450 and b550. Will be interesting to see if the performance difference would be worth it. (for lower spec cpus 3600-3700/4600-4700 ish)

I was hoping for comparisons with the two stronger b550 itx boards (Aorus and Phantom with 6 real 90A phases). Seeing how close MSI comes to the x570 Strix I can imagine the Aorus and Phantom b550 may even perform better in terms of thermals.

Finally some good fuckin reviews! Makes the choice for a Mainboard much easier, I m surely not the only one thinkin this

On the b450 Asus (prolly others too), the wifi module can be updated to a wifi6/bt5 m.2 wifi adapter for an extra ~$20. It is just a standard card wrapped in a metal enclosure.

As someone who’s currently running the ASUS X570-I ROG Strix in my current PC, I would 100% recommend the B550 variant. It has a much better layout, and the X570 version has no USB type-C front panel connector. I think the B550 may also have 2.5 Gbps LAN whereas the X570 model has 1 Gbps. X570 might be better if you really want the best VRMs and tons of good rear I/O (Ethernet port excepted), but overall the B550 is a much better choice for most people in my opinion.

Omg this is the video I need!! YASSS. Everything is out of stock for ITX and I didn't know to either wait for B550 or just say fuck it and buy the x570!! Thank you ❤️

I am really excited for B550i prices and supply to stabilize, fun times for new builders. A shame B550 doesn't have an upgrade path like b350 and b450 did but I think AMD earned some respect for this.

Here in Melbourne Australia, at Centrecom, the pricing for the cheapest B550 & X570 is only $5 apart, and from there they're mixed in pricing upto the most expensive B550 being $439, with the next cheapest X570 being $355, though there is a couple of X570 boards up in the $600+ range. This is a mix of mATX & ATX boards. In my opinion, with these pricings, I'd be going an X570 board.

Picked up the ROG Strix B-450i from Micro Center for 120. Very happy with it

thanks to this channel I built my first itx system

@OptimumTech I hope that I didn't get it wrong: AMD will provide support for the Zen 3 processors on B450 chipset, but only via a BETA Bios and it's for the MB manufacturer to decide if and when they release it. Adressing the Titan RTX not saturating a PCIe 4.0 connection - it will still run at PCIe 3.0, because the card itself is PCIe 3.0 x16 and does not support the 4.0 bus interface.

you said that b450 itx boards can come with bios flash, but there aren't any on the market in itx with that feature. I was excited when your video pointed out the option but then when I looked for one... no beans

According to Overclock(net) MSI B550 ITX uses "MPS MP2855GUT" an 8 phase PWM.

I'm glad my rig is on right path, r3600 stock cooler, 2x8 3200 gskill x-flare put on ASRock b450 gaming itx and packed in Silverstone sg13. And of course a little bit tune in bios...run like zombay 😁

I recently just purchased a x570 ROG CROSSHAIR HERO VIII, I absolutely love it.

Gonna build a no compromise Ghost S1 this autumn, the Asus mobo's looks like they have beefy M.2 slot on top of the board. Does it hold two m.2 or does the other go on the back of the board?

i think the b550 looks amazing. I noticed a trend in b550 boards. They became more minimalistic in design compared to older boards.

I'm waiting for a cooler master NR200 review. Looks really promising.

Ali, the B550i Aorus PRo AX seems a better choice than either of these MB. I just paid $159 for the AX in the states with a 3700X combo.

Problem is that you can't currently get "cheaper" b450 boards now. They are all out of stock on both Amazon and New egg, the only way to get them is to pay higher than MSRP. X570 is getting hard to find at msrp, so if they actually have stock at MSRP next week on the boards that are releasing july 6-7, thats what you should get.

2:50 - Trying to understand what the diagram (particularly on the right) is saying about the X570. It says on top that it supports EIGHT PCIe 4.0 lanes. ___________________ Under it, it says to choose between either a x4 PCIe 4.0 lane (I imagine for m.2 SSD drives that are capable of PCIe 4.0), Or TWO x2 PCIe 4.0 lanes (I imagine that means for 2 smaller devices like a network card), Or FOUR SATA3 6Gbps (meaning normal SATA cabled drives like 2.5" or 3.5" ones. My question is, if you have both m.2 PCIe 4.0 slots occupied (like on an Asus X570-i Gaming motherboard), does it mean it throttles the speed of any other cabled drives connected to the SATA3 ports?

105w tdp ryzen chip (3900x 3950x) has a power limit of 142w if you don't unlock it. That translate to ~120A, and that definitely can be handled by b450i strix 240A VRMs. I'm currently use a 3900x with strix board and it's working fine. However if you plan on overclocking, go b550.

Think my b450i gaming plus ac will do just fine. Depends how sketchy MSI bios for 4th gen is tho. Still haven't fixed the cold boot issue. Fortunately simply enabling erp ready in bios fixes it.

cant even get a hands on B550 itx boards until now. always out of stock. need to buy one... 😩😩😩

At this point I’ll buy either a b450 or b550 depending on what comes in stock first here in the US. Every itx motherboard is sold out.

One thing not a lot of people know, you can actually upgrade the built in wifi card on most boards. So if you want wifi 6, just buy the $20 card and take off the wifi card shielding. It's just 4 screws.

I'm sad you weren't able to test the B550i Aorus Pro AX ITX motherboard. It's got an TRUE 6+2 phase VRM with *90A* power stages. (no doublers) it's actually one of the best B550i motherboards, and one of the cheaper options. Also, there are rumblings about PCIE 4.0 being a necessary part of *next gen* GPUs.

can you review the ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/TB3 Mini ITX? especially it's tb3 capability for EGPU. if it's possible, it will make the itx build much more flexible.

My x470-I has been an amazing, on an R5 2600 I was able to hit CL14-3466, pretty great for Zen+ overclocking. Asus is making the best itx boards right now hands down.

MSI board will be my next itx mobo, great to see good thermal performance too.

One thing you missed was ethernet speeds. The reason I went with B550 on ITX is because they were the only boards that had 2.5Gbit ethernet ports. Even the X570 offerings didn't have that. My NAS transfer speeds are now more than double than what they were, which is useful as I don't have my mass storage inside my ITX build.

What about the review about the new coolermaster itx case? Do You have it already?

How well would the b550 work with ryzen 9 5950x? ik ur probs gonna make a vid on this. im hoping to build a new gaming/editing and possibly rendering system in the ncase m1

Can you review the thermaltake core v1 please, its an older it chassis and id like to see how It stacks up today

My Asus b550 Tuf (basically the Strix) is awesome for overclocks my 3600. Hitting 4.5 all core @ 1.23v with an AIO temps are 45c gaming and 55c on a Cinebench r20 loop. Prime 95 does get up to 65c with smallest (hardest) setting.

I’m disappointed in low amount of usb ports and absence of optical audio on almost all b550 itx boards. There’s really not a single board that has 5-6 3.2 usbs, optical audio and front usb-c connector at the same time.

Thanks Ali, NZXT H1 and B550 Asus looks like a good choice for my next build.

Can you make an updated video with the ryzen 5000 series chips please

got to say you nailed it - been waiting for this review - However I've been looking at B550-i prices and there are X570 itx mobos that are cheaper. I'm guessing I might aswell get X750? anyone else also having this dilema?

I neeeeeeeed the MetalFish 500w PSU review for my K39 build. D:

I would love to buy a b550 board as I'm planning on building my first sffpc right now. But neither x570 nor b550 support my ryzen 1700x and I don't want to buy a zen2 CPU now because zen3 is supposed to launch later this year. I've wanted to wait a bit after the zen3 launch to get a good deal on a 4950 or something. Now my only options are suspending my build until next year or buy an "old" 470/450 mainboard. So much for the 5 year support of am4...

In 2012 I built a AMD FX 8120 computer. It is still running well today. I did have to do some upgrades and and address a failure but it still runs. My failure was replacing the CPU heat sink from the stock one, and a hard drive. Upgrade is mostly graphic cards. i do not remember what I started with but I have always used Nvidia cards. Last card is a GTX 950. I am not a gamer but is it possible to build a computer that will last for 8 years today? I have built a AMD 3900X. Even though it benchmarks around 3000 in Cinebench and my old FX benchmarks at a whopping 77. But in real life it does everything I wanted it to do. I do not see that much improvement with a really expensive computer I built I am wondering if this would last as along as the FX did? I guess that nobody really knows? But building computers not only for speed and purpose should not only be concern for folks like me. It is lasting and being able to run the upgraded programs that we use and the higher resources they use is why I upgrades it from the FX with Win 8.1 to AM4 super box. But this new one seems to not be as tough as the FX. I am just wondering about longevity. I do not know if the problem I am struggling with is really hardware or OS software. I hate windows 10. I really did not like windows 8 or 8.1 with that metro junk. But I could fix that with software programs. I can fix win 10 for looks but it still acts stupidly. By the way I hate UEFI too. What is your view on this?

I would have liked to see x470 included. In the US b450 itx availability is limited and when they are available pricing is over $200.

With inventory being so low, and pricing all over the place, currently the ROG Strix B550i is only $8 more than a B450i... And the X570 is nearly $100 more than the B550i... So, ROG Strix B550i it is! First ever build - just ordered: NZXT H1 NVIDIA 2070 Super FE Ryzen 3700x Next to purchase is the motherboard! Very excited/anxious to start building! Any words of encouragement/tips are appreciated :)

I also find the onboard sound of the ASUS x570 very usable. Saves you an external soundcard.

I actually got the Gigabyte X570 I Aorus Pro WIFI AMD X570 Mini-ITX for 220€, which is exactly the same price as the B550 alternatives in Germany. I´m so confused by pricing ranges rn.

I would have liked an X570 itx board that included the USB 3 3.2 front panel connector. The one on my NZXT H1 irks me that it goes unused because my Asus X570 board can't connect to it. The Asus B550 is a hard swipe due to it's skimpy offering of rear IO, the MSI does a better job in that department, too bad it's not available anywhere.