EVERYBODY WAKE UP TWOSET TALKS POSTED (I don’t care what y’all talk abt on here this is my therapy

I thought Eddy's first tip would be to make sure you're not late. 😂

1. Do not play concertos 2. Show up 15-30 minutes early 3. Do not look at the winds players when they have a solo 4. Bring a pencil and eraser to rehearsal 5. Do not talk behind people's Bachs 6. The inside player always turns the page 7. Practice before the first rehearsal 8. Watch for bow marking and changes 9. Listen, blend in and watch the conductor 10. Don't talk to your deskie too much

Not even a musician but here I am, listening to a half an hour podcast about surviving in orchestra.

Oh, another really good one: when someone in your section has a solo, DO NOT FINGER ALONG WITH THEM....that is SO annoying! It's like you're a vulture, waiting for them to miss so you can jump right in. Also, don't hold up rehearsal by asking questions of the conductor that your section leader can probably answer....at least ask them first, or let them ask the conductor. And if it's specific to your instrument, ask the conductor during the break, so you don't waste everyone's time.

Me, a vocalist: yes this is very important for me to know

So, to sum up: don't be late and have 20 eyes to be able to look at everyone and everything at once

Would love an episode about how you balance your personal/professional lives. With all your touring and practicing, how do you make sure that you’re taking care of yourself and leaving time for your other goals and interests?

Great episode. It was (understandably) a bit string-centric. Would love to see a few more episodes with special guests to discuss issues for woodwinds, brass, percussion, etc.

Yes, orchestral survival guide part 2 please!

Would love to hear you each talk about some of your favorite pieces in depth and why they are your favorite.

Basically, do what will help the orchestra to succeed, including being pleasant to work with. And as much as you don't want to gossip with the other players, do NOT gossip with the pianist. We know EVERYONE. 🙂

one of my fav twoset videos was the one where they talked abt their embarrassing stories. i was so into it that i actually thought that lol these guys should make a podcast, i would definitely listen to it. AND DAMN 4 YEARS LATER AND NOW HERE WE ARE

YES...those people who constantly play in every break...and it's always flashy, fast stuff....you never hear them playing something slow and beautiful....no, because they can't show off with that!

My High School band director would say to us "if you're early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late." to impress upon us to always show up to class and performances early enough to get ready and sit down.

If you get a magnet ring for your pencil you can leave the pencil stuck on your music stand and never forget it. Plus there are magnets that also have a rubber coating. You can stick the pencil to the music stand from below which will make turning the pages easier.

YOO I WAS LITERALLY THINKING “why did they abandon this podcast :(“ YESTERDAY

I cant believe that Vio-kelele apology video. Absolute savages

I'm dying inside listening to Eddy talk about his Rachmaninoff 2 story. Oh god

Now I want a link to the concert with the harpist.

Sat near a harpist for many years in a pro orchestra. You may put your extra set of strings in a jacket pocket, but the harpist puts extra strings in that bag on stage, along with Tibet Almond Stick to take care of all the dings and nicks the instrument get when being moved, and a dust cloth because they don't get to clean this instrument at home.

Also an episode on the art of practising in general. How to practise smart, efficient and effective and how you could schedule a practise session, in order for it to be all that. And not countless hours of mindless repetition with no progress. Especially because everyone tells you "to go practise" but no one teaches you, HOW to actually practise, in order to achieve the best possible results, in as little time as possible. Since it is so difficult to master practising and additionally having few guidelines on how to be smart about it, it would be very interesting to hear your thoughts, experiences, knowledge and wisdom on it. Love you guys❤

If you have several bars of rests before a page turn (maybe even with meter changes), copy them to the top of the next page. That way, you can turn the page early and still safely count up to your next entry without forgetting how many and what kinds of rests you have.

I’m still a terrible page turner (it’s the dry skin), but I actually had to be taught to turn them properly, when I was a graduate viola student. Instead of putting the instrument down and turning with the right hand, continue to support the instrument with only the head and shoulder, and turn with the left hand. My classmate taught me, and 40+ years later, I taught one of his students, who we had just hired. This may not work for the violins, but it’s a regular practice for the violas.

I knew Twoset Talks would be back. Quality over quantity, and I totally approve.

to add to the tip about bringing a pencil/eraser- bring extras. literally the quickest way to make friends if someone forgets theirs and you save their ass lol

4:52 random noise and Brett's quick witted response by giving Eddy's flexing time

21:57 as a choir singing, I can relate to the blending, we practice that A LOT. And when I was in the audience for the Wiener Filharmoniker and Symfoniker in Musikverein, one of the quality markers for me was that the violins all sounded as one, one gigantically projecting violin, with the cleanest sound I have ever heard

Omg my clarinet section needs to hear the “don’t talk behind other people’s backs”. My band didn’t have a bass clarinet so I was assigned to it this year and sucked because it’s a bunch of different technique and they basically ostracized me and refused to even look at me, and I’m the director’s favorite. Lol.

TwoSet talks is like the podcast we have been waiting for years!!!

I think exploring about what you should do on your first day, first week and first month in orchestra could be interesting. This could include deductions on the paycheck, preparing for your first concert, concert dress, guest conductors, and performing with choirs and soloists.

Would love for you guys to talk about your process in coming up with video ideas. Who's idea was violin charades? What's your favorite type of video to produce and why? What goes into putting these awesome videos together for us viewers and what have you learned along the way?

14:25 What a great story about Eddie and the kind concert master defending him to the conductor! That would be my worst nightmare though...you think you're safe in the back and then getting dropped up front with the concert master!!!

Aaaaaah, finally!! Honestly, I would love for you to talk about your book collection that we can see on your shelf and why its there. Thanks guys!

My biggest tip: Try to start in an amateur orchestra as early as possible. Don't wait until you have to sit in a professional one. A youth orchestra is much more relaxed about these things and you can get the experience without the drama.

B&E: practice your part before the 1st rehearsal Me: Hahahaha! 😮 LOL! 1st rehearsal is for practicing sight reading.

Could hardly wait until I could take my daughter to school today. Now I finally have some time to enjoy this podcast. I just love how Brett and Eddy are role models for everyone, not only about classical music and practice, but also being authentic and creating an encouraging, constructive, non-toxic environment. Keep up the good work guys, and also take care of yourself 💜

First activity of the day: putting on Chen&Yang headband. Second: listening to TwoSetTalks. All other things can wait.

I don’t Even play in orchestra but I watch it because TwoSet.

On point 1: I've also seen a situation where a horn player kept flexing with the Strauss till Uilenspiegel horn solo during every break and before rehearsal. Eventually the conductor pointed it out to them, couples with the fact that they're destroying their stamina by constantly doing that. Which would not benefit the quality of the concert to come.

"doggy tears" has now entered the musician's vocabulary.

Twoset are the bear grills of orchestra and classical musician life!

Thank you for not abandoning your podcast channel after the first episode ❤

it`s so interesting to hear your experiences, especially when i`m not involved in all these things so i`m not familiar with how the orchestra works, please talk more🙏🙏

The conductor talked about me behind my back during rehearsal, and I was like, "is It about me?" And he nodded, so I told him "so turn around and talk looking at me" I ended up leaving the orchestra and he sent his "pets" to talk to me and ask If I would come back because he had some unrefusable offer... Of course I said no.

On the page turning: I see it increasingly more often that the outside person turns the page because its so much easier for them to reach it since they sit on the side where the page is, that needs to be turned. Its an exception ofc with the concertmaster or section leaders since they still need to lead the orchestra/section.

"Twoset Talks Episode Number 2" I didn't think I'd see the day, oh my god, finally 😭

As someone who has a habit of turning my head towards the speaker in a conversation automatically (Trauma habit), it lays over in my behavior-in-orchestra habits and makes me the stinker who looks at the woodwinds during rehearsal when they have solos-though it doesn’t show through in concerts.

You know, a lot of what you say not only applies to Orchestral rehearsals, but also anything that has a group of musicians coming together, like choir... tho I must say, we have the privilege of having our own scores, so a big thing is - remember to bring your scores!

I'm so glad you did not abandon this project!

one time in wind ensemble a large amount of the group (but most notably the trumpets) were just talking, talking, talking as the director had been discussing the piece. they were all oblivious to anything he was saying, but he wasn't gonna stop for them. that piece opens with a forte-piano timpani roll for two measures before the rest of the ensemble comes in. so everyone is talking, talking, talking, and i'm just sitting there...mallets ready, grin on my face as i'm watching the director and waiting... my friend over in 1st clarinets knew, she was grinning back at me across the room and trying not to laugh cuz she knew exactly what was gonna happen. so the director kinda glances at the trumpets, looks at me...gives the downbeat... yeah all those ppl talking JUMPED out of their seats when i played. it was great.

Great that I’m wearing Chen&Yang headband in my Japan trip right now and thank you for uploaded more Twoset talk(the headband freaking cute)

Honestly, I’d listen to any topic you guys decide to feature! It would be really cool to hear your opinions on music school and youth orchestra, though. I’m in youth orchestra and I’m curious about your experiences. Much love!

thank you guys so much for this!! i’m studying violin performance for college this fall and although i’ve played in youth orchestras since middle school, i’m so nervous about college orchestra 😭😭 wish me luck

While the concertmaster serves the a, only tune your a. Wait until the concertmaster sits down to tune your other strings.

Even if youre not in Orchestra and just a musician in orchestra but still want to be professional these tipps are so important and as you can also hear by their story that sometimes you get these lessons a bit late and then have awkward or embarassing moments that could have been averted

14:58 sightreading rach2- that was me last week 😅😅

Would love an episode or segment with advice for people learning later in life (20s/30s), people who didn't get to go to music school or get a lot of musical education growing up. Things for them to practice, skill wise. Things for them to study, music theory wise. Things like that. Loved this episode, keep 'em coming 👍

Eddy, that concertmaster was not only kind, but he was a GREAT TEACHER.....he knew you needed to experience to teach you a lesson, and he provided it.

Thank you for this video..as someone who lives somewhere where there are almost no youth orchestras, school orchestras or orchestras in general..its really heartwarming to look at you guys describe an orchestral experience…I wish to experience it someday too…also those headbands are soooo cuteee!!

I’d like to hear about how you prepare for a lesson. I don’t mean practice that week; that’s obvious. What I mean is, in like the hour or so before your lesson what are you doing? Do you do a basic warm up? Go over the pieces? Make a list of problem areas? How do you prepare to get the most out of the lesson time?

This had me giggling and remembering my first symphonic orchestra rehearsals in school where the brass would play and the strings would really want to turn around and look back at us! LOL bless.

I JS FOUND THE CHANNEL IVE NEVER SUBBED TO A CHANNEL FASTER IN MY LIFE-

I worked for a professional orchestra before. You can sit "7th chair" second violins and still be literally 3 feet from the conductor because the seatings were circular position, and right behind us were the oboe, flute, etc. You can't hide.

Super duper love love love this new podcast channel! So awesome getting to just listen to the gained wisdom that both of you have had over the years. Very valuable information and lessons. Thank you both, Brett & Eddy. Really appreciate your valuable time and shared knowledge and years of experience. Sending warm hugs filled with love and encouragement. 🫂💕💯🎻🎻🥰🥰

If you can survive in orchestra for a short time, you can survive for a long time.

I feel so fortunate I only discovered this channel in episode 2 so I didn't need to do the agonising 3 month wait the others had to do. But welp, 3 more months for me to wait now...

I really enjoy listening to both of you just talking in such a relax mood

Loved it. It's a rare insight into professional orchestras... and funnily enough... in our community orchestra it's so similar! I always get SO annoyed with the two girls that NEVER bring a pencil.

Hurray!! I really hope there gonna be more orchestra-talks! Btw, about the last one, don't you ever talk ON STAGE because literally everyone can see that, even if you are in winds section(and maybe hear too if there are some mics around) ☠☠☠

There was an anecdote about page turning and you mentioned a violinist, old, like 50... Could you elaborate on the issue of age in classical music instrumentalists? Age comes up in a lot of fields: some surgical specialties in the Boston hospitals and the Massachusetts supreme court have a limit of 70 (geriatric patients were traditionally defined as >=60 yo and that was changed to 70 a while ago).

When Brett started talking about inside chair and outside and left and right my cello brain thought I forgot my left from my right😭(cellists are facing the opposite way, insides are on the right outsides are on the left)

more twoset talks! thanks brett and eddy!

tbh this is so calming

I'm an amateur violinist and choral singer - nowhere near professional, I just play for fun. But I was nodding along when you talked about blending with other sections. I taught myself, almost by accident, to listen to the other sections while playing in a community string orchestra as a teenager. I found that skill applicable to choir as well, and I'm always baffled when other people can't do it, or don't think to do it. You're playing in a group, you should be listening to that group!

Omg, I'm so happy they didn't give up of this channel!! ❤

I'd like another episode! I just like hearing y'all talk.

I would love to hear more "nerding out about music"-type discussions. It's always fun to hear people talk about what they're most passionate about and what they're currently discovering!

The thing with who turns the page is not always the same. Maybe it depends on the orchestra but I know a lot of places where you have to turn the page as an outside player. I know that in an orchestra, at one point someone change the rule because the person sitting right can reach the page quicker to turn it. Maybe there is a difference between symphonic orchestras and opera orchestras. Because when you are in the stage it looks better when the inside player turns the pages.

FREE THERAPY ILY guys so much!!, You have inspired me so much and I’m so happy you made a new channel where you guys talk and teach!!🤩🤩🤩

I love Rachmaninov 2 but now I can't listen to the 4th movement without imagining Eddy struggeling at the front desk.

Yes please to more orchestra episodes!

89 days without Twoset talks new ep, UNTIL TODAY, FINALLY GUYS

Thank you for sharing all those inside stories.

I’m not a musician and I still find your tips fascinating! 😂

Lovely detail and specifics! I was waiting for the tip about not having B.O.! Haha!

2B pencil is also preferred because it's a softer lead, and therefore easier to erase. Worst thing is trying to erase something and scrubbing a hole through the score because it won't come off

I’m a horn player and at all state this year at every single break half of the horns would get together and play all these fancy concertos together and everyone would whip around and glare at them 😭😭

YAY! I've been waiting on this!

I was waiting for thisss

I’ve been waiting for another episode!

Thanks for the episode!

Love your talks!

Thank you so much for the new episode!!

Love these! I’m all for a part 2 of this episode!

I would like another orchestra one this was great 🙏

Yayyyy more twoset talks🎉

OMGGGG this is exactly what I need

FINALLY i was waiting for a new episode

Yayayyayayay finally ep 2