Order of Nine Angles (O9A), What been a niner is really about.

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Жыл бұрын

I am not a Niner, after my last video I felt it important to go into the beliefs of the Order of Nine Angles, however I have decided to focus purely on the concept of Theistic Satanism and the history behind where many of the origins of niner philosophy came from. I have avoided there mystic system and focused on practical niner ideas. I have no wish to go into O9A further, but felt this important as I move onto what I am doing next.

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@plutoneptune 2 ай бұрын

Are there rituals involving children?

@InterzoneAnalysis 2 ай бұрын

To be very clear on this as I am asked this all the time. THERE IS NO CHILD ABUSE IN THE ACTUAL ONA. In all the pre-2000s ONA core material even HOSTIA states that child abuse is prohibited. Only in the American Martinet Press FBI informants books, O9A.org and later Fenrir publications that child abuse in the ONA context start appearing. In HOSTIA It's considered child abuse to ever raise your kids in the Sinister tradition in the ONA. So if you are a Christian and raise your child a good Christian ONA considers that Child Abuse. You must be 16 years at least to be old enough in HOSTIA to choose a spiritual path essentially, so pushing it in your kids is child abuse according to 1970s to 2000 ONA. So no, you do rituals with kids, you're not ONA you're just a child abuser or paedophile. Your not ONA.

@christucker8174 2 ай бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysis What's the significance of the number 38 in ONA?

@TheEternalClown 27 күн бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysisBut is ONA dogmatic? Perhaps older ONA material condemns these things, but on what authority?

@ericgill6992 16 күн бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysisI know better

@InterzoneAnalysis Жыл бұрын

I AM NOT MAKING A SPELLING MISTAKE CONFUSING ANGLE WITH ANGELS... THE THE ORDER OF NINE ANGLES IS REFERING TO THE GEOMETRIC ANGLE NOT THE CELESTIAL ANGEL.. AT LEAST LOOK O9A UP BEFORE GIVING ME SHIT ABOUT THE SPELLING.

@InterzoneAnalysis Жыл бұрын

I did this in all caps not out of anger but in the hopes people will see and read it.

@stover14 Жыл бұрын

How about the spelling of been instead of being? Lmao

@Joshua_Froschauer 6 ай бұрын

Fucking hilarious!!!

@Matt-ou7tu 4 ай бұрын

To be completely blunt though, for all these ONA adherents who believe in Darwinism and survival of the fittest- how many of them would truly survive in that kind of environment. I feel like it wouldn't be many.

@acidtester7470 3 ай бұрын

Have you actually seen what it takes to actually adhere to ONA? there are very heavy physical trials you would have to go through.

@TheEternalClown 27 күн бұрын

@@acidtester7470In an actual Darwinian system they would be put to death for their psychopathy and lack of sympathy towards the weak. Besides, who says people actually follow through with these physical trials? Or that they are to be interpreted as necessary, rather than a standard or a goal?

@acidtester7470 26 күн бұрын

@@TheEternalClown Darwinian system? Who is to say you would be in the position of power to put Niners to death? And what for? Psychopathy? You are only making assumptions on the personal character of individuals you have never met. Sounds like you are the one with lack of empathy. Or, is that only reserved for the weak? Letting weakness flourish is nothing close to empathy. When the sick and feeble take precedence over the healthy and vital, that shows a serious lack of empathy. Perhaps you mean sympathy which is, not empathy. Empathy for the weak would be to guide them towards strength, but ultimately the actions that takes to contribute not be a burden on those around you lays completely with the individual. It's sink or swim. You don't get a family member or friend off of drugs by coddling them, the same principle is at work regarding weakness in general. I'm not scared of your kind, nor ever will be.

@guru_9 Жыл бұрын

Your channel is very interesting! Thanks for the video and honest analysis.

@InterzoneAnalysis Жыл бұрын

No problem, thanks for watching, I know I go into alot of different directions. But in its own strange way its all connected. I have a virus at the moment so I've had to take time off from everything. but I have a lot of content I am going to publish as soon as I have recovered. Next few days hopefully. Anyway thank you!

@chrislawuk Жыл бұрын

Any chance of a written version of videos like this that you appear to have a finished script for? Shove them on a blog somewhere? You won’t believe the trouble I had trying to find the correct spelling for some of the characters and authors you’ve referenced just in the first 10 minutes. Haha. Still, your unique input and insight is fascinating. I’ll surely listen to it if I don’t have the option to read. Thanks

@InterzoneAnalysis Жыл бұрын

Thanks you for letting me know about your interest in the scripts, to be honest I prefer writing as I am a writer. However I assumed no one would read long essays these days. Which is why I have read them on KZfaq especially my O9A content. I will think deeply about how I would go about publishing my essays in written material. Thank you for this feedback. Its very good for me to know I was wrong about people still wanting to read !

@0therun1t21 Ай бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysis I read but need glasses (oldness). One thing you could do is put difficult to spell names and words in the description. I've already read the two essays on your website, will read more if more appears.

@attarvovin 2 ай бұрын

The ties to Hitlerism are intrinsic. I doubt this philosophy will ever make it to being acceptable to the clayborn. Fantastic video.

@Frater369 6 ай бұрын

Who is the best person to interview about the ONA?

@InterzoneAnalysis 5 ай бұрын

Depends on what ONA you want. If you want the American TOB, Martinet, Sutter, FBI Entrapment machine and money pot stuff I have some contacts who where involved, if you want the UK end, the Original ONA and also Central and Eastern European ONA Kollectives I have a lot of contacts but few would agree to an interview.

@HodorovskyKidd 2 ай бұрын

What is central europe?

@Exxperiment626 2 ай бұрын

@@HodorovskyKidd Basically Eastern-Europeans who get offended if you call them Eastern-Europeans (Poland, Slovakia, Cezchia).

@InterzoneAnalysis 2 ай бұрын

I know people from the Czech Republic 🇨🇿 who consider themselves Eastern European not Central. They are all Slavic, Serbia 🇷🇸 is South Slavic, Czech 🇨🇿 is Central Slavic, and Russia 🇷🇺 is Eastern Slavic. We are all Slavic people in the end. Except 🇦🇱s.......

@psychomantis2485 2 күн бұрын

The O9A is essentially just the edgiest possible ideology someone could make.

@stefos6431 4 ай бұрын

Hi Interzone, Does the ONA practice magic ritual or is it just an ideology?

@InterzoneAnalysis 4 ай бұрын

It's an all-encompassing system, the ONA is an occult tradition that includes ritual magick from self-initiation rituals to sex magick.

@stefos6431 4 ай бұрын

May I ask what you've moved on to? I'd to communicate with you in private.

@stefos6431 4 ай бұрын

Sir I have sent you a private email.. Regards

@InterzoneAnalysis 4 ай бұрын

@@stefos6431 thank you, I am unable to get back quickly to comments or emails at the moment. I will check tonight when I can. Thank you for your patience.

@stefos6431 4 ай бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysis Thank you sir

@Ratselmeister 11 ай бұрын

How do you spell this guy? Charise Carl Heinzmas?

@InterzoneAnalysis 11 ай бұрын

Joris-Karl Huysmans, Là-bas, published in 1891

@Ratselmeister 11 ай бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysis Merci

@kingjay-em5nd Ай бұрын

Do you get power from taking lives of young men?.. ive seen a lot of stuff from william ramsay on KZfaq indicating there might be connecting featurea

@InterzoneAnalysis Ай бұрын

Killing is power regardless. Its a rush, but nothing at the same time. Unless in hand to hand combat, that's personal. But fuck is there a price. Take care IA

@InterzoneAnalysis Ай бұрын

Also, this post is purely for educational purposes apropos killing. I am in no way promoting anything just relaying imput as a professional in the "Perception Management" community.

@kingjay-em5nd Ай бұрын

I mean can sacrifices give you personal luck, energy etc?

@kingjay-em5nd Ай бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysis I'm genuinely curious as I've only heard biased podcasts from Christians about the order

@moosemaster96 27 күн бұрын

Should i be concerned that individuals adhering to their doctrine have successfully infiltrated every strata of society or as someone that claims to be informed can you put my mind at ease in regards to that

@InterzoneAnalysis 24 күн бұрын

Paranoia is not a good way to go. If they are that good you never would have heard of them. The old generation infiltrated academia. The new.. it's a diffrent era. The fabian society is far more dangerous than the ONA trust me and most of you never hear dof tbem

@jamespfp Жыл бұрын

o7! Found my way here completely "at random" due to the intricacies of The Algorithm and all that entails. I'm at about 2:40 and planning to listen to the end, but before I do I'm going to comment now about a laterally connected issue pertaining to modern theological practices (post 18th century) which may serve reasonably well as a metaphorical Sieve for straining out Truth. It stands to my reason that Christian theology has always reserved a place for Miracles and/or direct acts of God; this is exactly the reason for the feeding of the 5000 people in the synoptic Gospels. Modern theologians will openly admit that the "miracle" here might even have a perfectly Natural but otherwise "subtextual" (read: their Head Canon) explanation, that many people in the crowd who had been holding out with food of their own shared what they had with others nearby them, who did not. As Jesus says at another point, whenever 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, there am I also, implying to me that regardless of what I believe in Jesus or archangels appearing or returning in Glory, there is some leeway given to allow for the 2 or 3 believers to *directly stand in* for the place of Jesus. "Acts of God" is a term of *Art* which emerges in the historical record because Modernity needed a way to rationally account for things which were *mostly* being caused by blind "Mother Nature" but which had *in reality* been partially or wholly caused by people acting in the interests of causing harm to others and in a way which would allow them to escape detection later. Acts of Evil which could be more or less random bad chance, in other words, need willing Live Action Role Players, people who are in complete Affect (not only Effect) Satanists. As I heard another KZfaq commenter point out, the large corporate entity that controls the publishing rights to Anton Lavey's best known works is probably Catholic. It doesn't hurt their cause to have the Devil being represented by anonymous volunteers, anymore than it hurts a Wrestling promotion to have Baby Faces *and* Heels. The Smarks will play along; the Promoters win.

@jamespfp Жыл бұрын

^^ So much of what could be superficially blamed on "the Internet" is far older than the Internet. Anonymity is clearly a commodity that was valuable since before classical times. Trolling is half of what people used to call Hazing.

@jamespfp Жыл бұрын

10:20 -- RE: Silence and the reconciliation with Judas; I've been quietly wondering if you'd been saying "Gnosis", now I know you must have been. This is exactly why you're also correct to link Set to the discussion with Satanism Lite. Part of the causes of the schisms in Christianity prior to the split between Catholicism and Orthodoxy was how to deal with the preponderance of Texts which were clearly written by and meant for Gnostic interpretations, and perhaps even a little more troubling, how these tended to be the earliest (thus, eldest) records. Gnosticism is the undercurrent which gave *early* Christianity a survival benefit, because of how it could potentially help simplify matters in Imperial Rome. For another modern term of Art that derives from way back around the 1st century AD: "Sheep Dipping", where a person from one culture (a "goat" if you will) is given an adequate cover story to allow them to go undercover in some other flock of sheep. [edit] See also: Koine Greek. Gnosis meaning "knowledge", with added religious connotations stemming directly from early Christian contexts. Curiously, Nietzsche started in philology and was particularly critical of God's ability to consistently use Koine Greek. Another curiosity: there are 2 words assigned to the sacrament of the Last Supper by Christians from the Dark Ages and onward, either "Communion" (which has koine as a root word, "common") or "eucharist" which comes directly from the words of New Testament descriptions, to Give Thanks. (ie. before breaking and sharing the bread, Jesus gives thanks for it)

@InterzoneAnalysis Жыл бұрын

I was actually referring to Kenosis not Gnosis, In Christian theology, kenosis (the act of emptying), when I was referring to Silence the Shūsaku Endō novel. Quote from my video "one who in the mercy of that kenosis radically sympathizes with the weakness, and frailty, of human beings, even ones like Judas and Kichijirō." I was doing a juxtaposition of the Joris-Karl Huysmans novel Là-Bas on Satanism in late 1800s Catholic France , and Silence written by a devout Japanese Catholic set when the Jesuits where persecuted in Japan after the failed Japanese Catholic rebellion. I used to explore Christian existential concepts like Kenosis which is what the novel Silence is really about. From the perspective of a Theistic Satanist. It was an exercise in existentialism from my youth. Its easy to think I said Gnosis, I do say Gnosis in my videos at times given In Occult circles it is used constantly. Interesting you bring up that Anton Lavey`s Satanic Bible may be printed by a Catholic compony. I will have to look into that. However Anton Lavey`s work is not very well regarded by Satanists. Its seen as weak. The Satanic Bible however is usually the way a lot of people get into the occult later in life, Its atheistic nature and mild form of natural law focus leads people into exploring things like Magick and Aleister Crowley`s work. The amount of Thelemites I have met who started with the Satanic Bible as teenagers then moved into Golden Dawn and then Aleister Crowley is surprisingly high. As someone who is myself someone deeply connected to the works of Crowley I think it is a good thing. However Crowley is in no way linked to Satanism, He was a Hermetic Kabbalist and Eastern Esotericist all mixed together. Thank you for your in-depth comments, its always interesting.

@jamespfp Жыл бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysis Thank you for the clarification!

@SilverTonguedCavalier Ай бұрын

Can you come on a podcast to talk about this?

@InterzoneAnalysis Ай бұрын

It depends on my schedule as its chaotic at the moment. But if you contact me on my business email interzoneanalysis@protonmail.com Something may be able to be organised or at least in the near future. Take care IA

@MalaklypsetheElder 26 күн бұрын

Does priests and nuns you're talking about in the beginning were doing Insight roles, by the way a tactic and technique or methodology that Niners stole from lots of other whacked-out Psychopathic occult orders such as Hassani I Sabbah's assassins or even the Sabbateans. I'm not going to prejudge this but I'm hoping when I watch the rest of this video I don't find a segment where you discuss how misunderstood the O9A is and start talking about the satanic panic and the false stories about sacrifice and whatnot because it's pretty clear from Cryptonomus, Christos Beast, Long / Myatt and some of the others that they were serious when they were talking about calling as the core of the order of nine angles.

@billwhitacre703 Жыл бұрын

You've been to some dangerous areas. Are you a mercenary or an intelligence asset? I say that in jest, for the most part. Also, I did not intend to link you to a sensationalized article, I found it to be objective, but I now understand your point is the group's foundation or holistic ideology. As a digression, I believe all organizations have some degree of infiltration. Take care.

@InterzoneAnalysis Жыл бұрын

I have been safer in some areas under strict Sharia in the Eastern and southern Arabian Panincula than in many areas near where I live in Australia. However I was living according to the Quran and Authenticated Hadiths. If I messed up, even the Australian Consulate in these places would be useless. However its not as exciting as it sounds, I will go into the context of my stints overseas (at least enough to not give away to much of my Identity) in the next videos. Thank you for understanding regarding the articles, however I did not have time to read the one you sent me by the recording of the video so I cannot judge it. I was just generalising the terrible journalism on the subject. I just wanted to keep it as simple as possible. I will read the article you sent me and let you know. I don't wish to shut people down whom are giving legitimate input. So it was unintentional. I hope you stick around for my future content, you have interesting things to say and actually watch my videos before commenting, which is something I appreciate so thank you.

@billwhitacre703 Жыл бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysis Absolutely, I appreciate you taking the time to respond, and I look forward to your future work. It's all good, take care.

@MalaklypsetheElder 26 күн бұрын

I'm not sure anyone has actually accused the order of nine angles of being a variant of some sort of anti-christian satanic movement unless they have not seriously studied literature in which case I could see how they would be confused by this. What is funny about the contradictions within the order of night angles is the fact that they have a lower that is clearly based on very old kabalistic hellenized mysticism crossed over with Greek mythology and yet they claim animosity and enemy status assigned to an ethnic / racial group that would seem to contradict some of their roots. But this of course is standard fare for most of your hybridized mishmash ad hoc a cult systems that have flourished in the last 300 years. When you peel the layers of this onion back I think and even funnier observation of note is that there is not a schema or worldview that can analyze and dissect what groups like The Order of nine angles are without coming to the conclusion if the Observer and questioner is actually a reasonable and logical would come to the conclusion that they are actually originated from Middle East ideologically one of the racial ethnic groups that they claim enemy status with in their own doctrine. But we've seen this sad puppet show before and of course you can't really convince people of what is out there in the obvious much like when people have researched and found the actual inner secrets to occult orders like Freemasonry people continue to deny that its roots are in kabbalistic mysticism even when you show them that this was quoted and stated such as in writings pertaining to the craft such as Morals and Dogma. I think this speaks volumes to how dim witted most people are.

@au9parsec Жыл бұрын

Plan zed dash niner niner. Give the secret formula to plankton.

@InterzoneAnalysis Жыл бұрын

Congratulations you have revealed yourself to be an Opfer!!!

@barrybarry8564 Жыл бұрын

Finally, watching so many Farting Preacher videos has brought me to videos like this lmao

@marekszewczyk3208 Ай бұрын

Lashkar e Taiba

@Rohaan_Bashir-9239 2 ай бұрын

...sounds like a bunch of f46s...

@nibn4r Жыл бұрын

Probably you mean angels in the title delete me

@InterzoneAnalysis Жыл бұрын

No it is the geometric Angle that is used in the organisations title.

@nibn4r Жыл бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysis I’m glad I asked! Thanks

@Unique_Leak Жыл бұрын

@@InterzoneAnalysiss there a reason why they use 9 angles instead of 8? 8 seems to make more sense because that's essentially hard aspects in astrology or 45, 90, 135, 180, etc

@InterzoneAnalysis 7 ай бұрын

its mostly to do with Alchemy, to quote Wikipedia (As terrible as the ONA page is, they are right about the second explanation of the name Quote "The seven "normal" alchemical stages, with an additional two processes." you will be able to work it out from there. @@Unique_Leak

@rauljuliannestarez3610 2 ай бұрын

Stupid!!