Oregon recriminalizes drug possession
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2 ай бұрынA few years ago, Oregon became the first state in the country to approve a measure decriminalizing small amounts of drugs. Now, the state is recriminalizing them after opioid deaths in Oregon tripled between 2019 and 2022. Many of the deaths have been attributed to the rise in fentanyl, leaving state officials and authorities scrambling to find a solution. Meira Gebel, a reporter for Axios Portland, joined CBS News to discuss the situation.
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@frankcb11 2 ай бұрын
You just can’t decriminalize you have to do way way more than that. That’s the failure here
@electrolytics 2 ай бұрын
What? Provide free food and housing? Provide free drugs? Free cars? I guess we can put millions of freeloader junkies on your idea of Drug Rehab.
@tuckerbugeater 2 ай бұрын
Yeah there's plenty you can do without creating a large government bureaucracy
@pedalingprospector2007 2 ай бұрын
"Who'd a thunk it" award goes to Oregon.
@roofpizza1250 2 ай бұрын
I wonder how they compare to Washington State and its fentanyl issues. Seems no one is immune. 2 years is a short time for an experiment esp with new variables.
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
This is reactionary BS, does nothing to solve the fentanyl problem. It's literally one drug, and they're panicking to make it look they're doing something.
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
@@roofpizza1250 By a two year standard, Australia's gun ban seems kinda bad. Fentanyl is an epidemic everywhere, panicking to look like they're doing something solves nothing.
@roofpizza1250 2 ай бұрын
@@mile_high_topher Australia? What? Australia's gun laws are hugely successful.
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
@@roofpizza1250 That was my point. Violent crime went up a bit when the laws first came into effect, though. And then plummeted.
@Radi0he4d1 2 ай бұрын
Decriminalization is nothing without a rehabilitation system.
@veramae4098 2 ай бұрын
There were elaborate rehab programs. Problem is, addicts don't want to come off drugs.
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
@@veramae4098 Based on your opinion as a social worker? Treatment specialist?
@michigancube4240 2 ай бұрын
@@veramae4098ah so places like Portugal, Netherlands, Spain, Finland, Norway, and most other European nations that also do a serious rehabilitation system with drug decriminalization just got lucky? You have to actually stick it to the rehabilitation system you cant just tell a druggie to get help and expect them to go get help, you have to coerce them like anyone else who has been hesitant to do anything in their life. Set them up for rehabilitation and rehab shelter if theyre homeless, go through psychiatric therapy, have some sort of post-rehab employment program which is the big BIG kicker. You need to have an action plan for the addicts after theyre done going through rehab and cant kick them back out to the curb, though the US bi-party system shafts anyone for luck for genuine change since its always a tug of war between whatever flavor of the decade is to each party's agenda.
@Ap_twsh 2 ай бұрын
Jail is rehabilitation
@Radi0he4d1 2 ай бұрын
@@veramae4098 They do want to come off drugs when offered between rehab and criminal penalty, like in Italy
@brailrice 2 ай бұрын
Oregon, Washington State, California, trying to out do each other in stupid ideas.
@roofpizza1250 2 ай бұрын
Seems like it's working in Portugal, maybe it's people like you that are holding back its success? Lemme guess you come from a state that receives more from the feds than what it sends.
@vallee7966 2 ай бұрын
Yep, but it’s slowly reversing. Read Danny Westneat’s article in the Seattle Sunday Times.
@scottharm3932 2 ай бұрын
You can just say Washington. It's not like there's any reason to leave DC out of it
@WalkiTalki 2 ай бұрын
And considering all three implement nearly identical laws at the same time they are probably being lead by an outside entity to do so. One that benefits from the instability it causes.
@TrollingWithTheTruth 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget NY........they are running full speed ahead.
@ecamp6360 2 ай бұрын
The original proposal for Prop 110 included funding for experimental treatment clinics using ibogaine to curb addiction. Why can't they put that back in to the program?
@Radi0he4d1 2 ай бұрын
It costs _moneeeey_ so they just half-assed the idea
@tuckerbugeater 2 ай бұрын
Why you paying for people's drug habit. It's about Liberty but the left never really cared about Liberty they just want you to fund their degeneracy
@douglasharbert3340 2 ай бұрын
Well, it turns out that letting the druggies have the run of the place didn't quite work out. Imagine that.
@tuckerbugeater 2 ай бұрын
Well only because the taxpayer is forced to pay for their health care after they overdose it wouldn't be a problem otherwise
@taylorj.6165 2 ай бұрын
Drugs are bad for human beings.
@aaronsimmons4675 2 ай бұрын
lol
@itself227 2 ай бұрын
I'll agree recreational and long term maintenance drugs are pretty much not good for people.
@dianahill5116 2 ай бұрын
@@itself227 Example: I'm Pro Choice I stand with Planned Parenthood. Keep abortion available, safe and legal; for females of all ages. Doctor/patient confidentiality laws apply to all genders.
@itself227 2 ай бұрын
@@dianahill5116 I'm assuming you made another comment that isn't showing? I actually have no idea what you're talking about
@modernretroradio993 2 күн бұрын
The war on drugs is un-Constitutional. Also, if criminalizing drugs is so effective, why has 50+ years of the drug war been an abject failure? All this does is empower predatory police to violate people's Fourth Amendment rights.
@here_for_the 2 ай бұрын
Why not decriminalize small amounts of illegal firearms as a test next?? Tf? 😂😂
@willythemailboy2 2 ай бұрын
Well, they've decriminalized theft in California and we can see how well that's going.
@gazorp1 2 ай бұрын
I am always puzzled by drug legalization issues. We tried outlawing alcohol but gave up on that. I don't think nicotine has ever been outlawed, not to mention caffeine. I wonder where we should draw the line on what drugs should be legal for recreational use?
@vooteimer1234 2 ай бұрын
Oregon isnt going to throw drug users in jail: not even remotely enough cells for that. So dont expect this to do much.
@ktloz2246 2 ай бұрын
Build more jails, simple.
@tuckerbugeater 2 ай бұрын
The people be free to ingest what they want simple I know it's hard for you
@vooteimer1234 2 ай бұрын
@@ktloz2246 Oregonians aren't in love with arresting everyone for anything. They will oppose the construction of more prisons.
@jamesmurphy9426 2 ай бұрын
Decriminalization without keep records and rehabilitation opportunities
@aaronday7537 2 ай бұрын
Why not make public intoxication illegal? Oh it is? Why not enforce it then?
@fm-9129 Ай бұрын
Because law enforcement and the medical infrastructure was overwhelmed by the amount of new addicts. That was part of the issue.
@michaeldelgiudice1057 2 ай бұрын
we learn from our mistakes.
@PrettyGoodLookin 2 ай бұрын
All drugs are bad....including Alcohol. You must educate the children starting in elementary school about how terrible drugs and alcohol are. Replace drugs with financial acumen.
@WalkiTalki 2 ай бұрын
So that was a short-lived bout of stupidity. Inventing new laws instead of enforcing or adapting successful ones will alway result in increased deaths. The laws are there for a reason not just to pick on the irresponsible.
@danielc3003 2 ай бұрын
Stupid is as stupid does! When you ignore laws, you have lawlessness.
@tuckerbugeater 2 ай бұрын
Just like down at Trump and Biden's border
@modernretroradio993 2 күн бұрын
Drug war has no Constitutional merit.
@drsmetal2747 2 ай бұрын
I hope cannabis won't be recriminilzed.
@tuckerbugeater 2 ай бұрын
Is it like a special drug or something
@dianahill5116 2 ай бұрын
@@tuckerbugeater Example: I'm Pro Choice I stand with Planned Parenthood. Keep abortion available, safe and legal; for females of all ages. Doctor/patient confidentiality laws apply to all genders.
@conrad1478 2 ай бұрын
Wait, drugs are bad?😱
@tuckerbugeater 2 ай бұрын
Stop eating sugar and drinking alcohol
@filonin2 2 ай бұрын
No, unregulated drugs are bad. Try to follow along.
@conrad1478 2 ай бұрын
@@filonin2 I’m not stupid. Get a life
@filonin2 2 ай бұрын
If the problem was fentanyl in their drug supply then why weren't safe opioids provided instead? The reaction will in no way solve the problem and is genuinely stupid.
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
"Provided" how?
@baneverything5580 2 ай бұрын
They LEGALIZED fentanyl too. There are no "safe" opioids.
@tuckerbugeater 2 ай бұрын
Regulate it so they know what they're getting and no free hospital visits
@istrumguitars 2 ай бұрын
It’s definitely reactive and absolutely won’t solve the problem. Watch.
@filonin2 2 ай бұрын
@@mile_high_topher Just like in other countries where they have been legalized; government run clinics that sell them at a low cost so that illegal vendors with poison in their product cannot compete, much like with alcohol. How much illegal alcohol do people buy now that it is legal?
@veramae4098 2 ай бұрын
They did everything right, putting money into programs to help addicts. What they didn't realize (nor did I) most addicts don't want help.
@Pilotpailie 2 ай бұрын
No wonder half of the state wants to succeed to Idaho. How embarrassing to have such states in the union.
@roofpizza1250 2 ай бұрын
Half the state? You lot love to think you speak for everyone, don't you?
@filonin2 2 ай бұрын
Did you mean secede, Cletus? You may want to check your math too between hits of that ether rag.
@Pilotpailie 2 ай бұрын
@@filonin2 typos don’t change the fact that the state is divided between normal people and the far left that created CHAZ. Yes we remember.
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
@@filonin2 They've seceded from education and reality.
@mikemagura7064 2 ай бұрын
I live in Northern Idaho and we have stacks of drug users in the jails. Criminalization has not solved the drug problem.
@testboga5991 2 ай бұрын
People have to get treatment, decriminalization is no cure all!
@jaybird7534 Ай бұрын
Just before they legalized I had a conversation with a former vacationing cop in Bend, Oregon and he said to me do you know that Oregon just legalized psilocybin, and I said no that's crazy, shortly after came the hard drug legalization and then I knew Oregon had flipped their lid.
@itself227 2 ай бұрын
Legal or not, using recreational drugs is very bad for you.
@jimschnase 2 ай бұрын
That’s not a solution people will still use drugs
@china_is_asshole 2 ай бұрын
And sometimes they need jail or prison to kick the addiction.
@jimschnase 2 ай бұрын
The 54 year old drug war obviously has not worked we need to do something else.
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
@@jamesmitchell-uh2ze Have you heard about Portugal's drug policy?
@veramae4098 2 ай бұрын
It's wonderful to read comments from people who have all the answers.
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
@@veramae4098 "Problem is, addicts don't want to come off drugs." - Lady with none of the answers
@aaronsimmons4675 2 ай бұрын
Huge failure in the method to go about decriminalizing. We’ve seen this work in other countries, but not like this.. decriminalizing then this hands off approach is absolutely not going work.. Such a shame.
@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938 2 ай бұрын
Without an affordable route for rehabilitation and encouraging and making it the socially “cool” thing to do…drug use will not go away…
@mochasweetie7580 2 ай бұрын
When you know you made a mistake and fix it!!
@bluntforcetrauma2141 2 ай бұрын
They did this for pop control
@hennessyblack5891 2 ай бұрын
I bet
@harrygeorge5550 2 ай бұрын
Kindness is taken as weakness.
@A3Kr0n 2 ай бұрын
Supply safe, FDA approved drugs and people won't die. How hard is that?
@ktloz2246 2 ай бұрын
How about not doing drugs and live a clean and healthy life?
@FixItStupid 2 ай бұрын
@@ktloz2246 Fluoride In The Water Stupid Corp Gov
@baneverything5580 2 ай бұрын
There is no such thing!
@blueeyesblueskiesahead1612 2 ай бұрын
Good. -an Oregonian
@LikeLikeLikeLikeLi 2 ай бұрын
Wow!!!
@scillyautomatic 2 ай бұрын
I have a little bit of respect for anyone who was seized by the mind virus but then comes back to their senses after they see where being so woke leads.
@tuckerbugeater 2 ай бұрын
The most woke thing is believing Trump will save you
@scillyautomatic 2 ай бұрын
@@tuckerbugeater Why do you say that? And who said "Trump". Explain.
@wicked2740 2 ай бұрын
Who could’ve guessed that these woke policies were not going to work! 🤔🙄🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@libertasadvitam4538 2 ай бұрын
Darwin out here darwining
@Moonxrockzzz 2 ай бұрын
Yay
@p3wned 2 ай бұрын
Good
@slawomirozdoba4605 2 ай бұрын
Good to see that adults are back in the room. Two years too late though. This woke madness needs to end.
@Progressive.G 2 ай бұрын
Criminalize ALL illicit drugs
@walterbo7687 2 ай бұрын
And ALL addictive games
@supertrucker99 2 ай бұрын
Not even legal it superceded federal statutes
@lindaward3156 2 ай бұрын
um, illicit drugs are already criminalized
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
Why?
@anunnakimenagerie 2 ай бұрын
Please define "illicit drugs" for me
@jeffreydavis4017 2 ай бұрын
The only problem was with fentanyl. Amazingly successful compared to the rest of the United States
@craigclark931 2 ай бұрын
So their law is responsible for killing thousands of people so whoever instituted the law is actually a criminal and whatever else they caused an economic damage they should all be sued
@WalkiTalki 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely. That is why Biden has a stranglehold on Homeland and DOJ. If he did not the Governors of all the deep blue states would be charged and the DNC would lose its voter base.
@tim3172 2 ай бұрын
I'm assuming that means you're holding Trump, Empty G, Ted Cruz, etc. personally liable for spreading misinformation and killing off some 600,000 MAGAts? (That's not even *vaguely* how the law works. That's what presidential/congressional/state rep. immunity *actually* is... you can't be held liable for the actions of the laws you pass. The only recourse is to have a recall or not reelect you.)
@firstnamelastname7708 Ай бұрын
They weren’t forcing these people to use drugs and overdose, so no, they aren’t responsible.
@thorspinky 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@BT_Spanky 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@derekriley9650 2 ай бұрын
😂
@alexxx7066 2 ай бұрын
Jajajajaja 😂
@g.k.1669 2 ай бұрын
How could it have been known that this would become a deadly problem? Who could have foreseen this event and been intelligent enough to understand the outcome? Oh! I know.... Every Republican knew this.
@bigmig808 2 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 🤦♂️
@sipioc 2 ай бұрын
Knock me down with a feather. Who could have seen this coming?
@modernretroradio993 2 күн бұрын
Do you really want low-IQ, predatory cops turning your next traffic stop into a full-on K-9 search, resulting in cops planting drugs on you? It happens.
@supertrucker99 2 ай бұрын
Why are doctors givin out oxy like candy?
@AngelWest58 2 ай бұрын
they don't are you kidding
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
@@AngelWest58 Seriously? Look up the Sackler/Purdue lawsuits... They CAUSED the opioid epidemic.
@baneverything5580 2 ай бұрын
They aren`t.
@michaelkurtz1967 2 ай бұрын
Funeral directors are pleased with such laws.
@zalix512 2 ай бұрын
But why oh why did they do it in the first place? REDRUM
@justauser 2 ай бұрын
Its almost like common sense isn't commin in Oregon
@dimsim-youtube 2 ай бұрын
"tolerant' Oregon!"
@SleeplessNights420 2 ай бұрын
Hhahahah get it together Oregon
@Daykor 2 ай бұрын
Girl ... I couldn't hear a thing you said with those bangs draped in your eyes
@craigwhite7948 2 ай бұрын
Oregon,once beautiful now a sewer thank a democrat
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, let's all model ourselves after Kentucky and Mississippi!
@craigwhite7948 2 ай бұрын
@@mile_high_topher during the 20 years of the viet nam war 58,000 American soldiers died ,a terrible tragedy. Last year 70,000 Americans died from fentanyl poisoning where’s the outrage.
@tim3172 2 ай бұрын
@@craigwhite7948 Who or what is viet nam?
@ripvanwinkle4532 2 ай бұрын
Ya. That was another genius Democrat idea wasn’t it
@modernretroradio993 2 күн бұрын
Actually, the people voted to decriminalize it. Do you really want low-IQ, predatory cops turning your next traffic stop into a full-on K-9 search, resulting in cops planting drugs on you? It happens.
@jameskrobar7814 2 ай бұрын
Liberal logic 🤣🤣🤣
@barefoot191 2 ай бұрын
lol, the logic of the insane
@dynjarren5454 2 ай бұрын
Criminals and bad guys dont care, this is just another dog and pony show
@ktloz2246 2 ай бұрын
They will care more when they have some jail time
@Get.Free.Crypto.Tokens. 2 ай бұрын
Supply safe, FDA approved drugs and people won't die. How hard is that?
@frankcb11 2 ай бұрын
FDA approved drugs milk people all the time?
@scillyautomatic 2 ай бұрын
How hard is your head?? Are you kidding? Supply safe drugs to addicts? I can't believe anyone has so little understanding of human nature.
@Jeremy-ff3jm 2 ай бұрын
You don’t have the right to be provided narcotics
@mile_high_topher 2 ай бұрын
@@scillyautomatic It works, though, regardless of your opinion. Check out Portugal's drug policy. Turns out compassion works better than punishment, who could've guessed?
@scillyautomatic 2 ай бұрын
@@mile_high_topher B S ! I call BS on that. If that were true Oregon would not be backtracking on this insane (and heartless) idea.
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