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No ones liked or disliked anything this is just all pointless bullshit : -)

Only talking 2 you cause don't have many people 2 talk 2 n is less anxiety provoking talking this way, see have few friends, am not cool like u would like am probably 'Loser' 2 you n this will only make you less greater n loser 2 : -)

I'd be friends with ornette, now he's honest n Trustworthy, Great person ,: 0

it's the misunderstood

Ornette is not a musicain! ornette es : -)

I know nothing about her, thanks for the info. I’ll look her up.

He tries 2 speak 2 all of us : -)

The songs are noted in the end credits.

You mean War and Peace by Tolstoy? The one where they highlight words?

I think that's part of the point, it is open to interpretations and fluctuations depending on the the composer or performers skill set or desire. There are a multitude of tools a composer can use. There is a tendency to begin with Harmony and then write a melody based off of that original harmony, or vice versa. However, why should the melody and harmony be related? Maybe write the two independent of each other. Why not start a piece from dynamics, or structure? Why use the pre-existing language of functional harmony, instead of creating your own symbolic harmonic system for the piece your creating? For instance using Colemans example of visualizing a persons initials to translate that into music. I think in essence its about rejecting the rigidity and the formality of the European music theory language, or any other for that matter. They all emphasize certain aspects over others, and they all have value, but if you've got a pallete full of colors, why stick to the same 1 or 2 or 3 everytime.

Is like any element can have any power it wants, melody/harmony is not dictating rhythm, rhythm isn't dictating melody, very interesting concept 2 me, not always easy, I was getting it when I was reading it in books on google. When I hear his groups no instrument seems to be in control of another, ornette is maybe leader so they are 'with him' as he has said in past but playing 'for themselves', it's folky kind of, maybe even a little like country music or as well other cultures like musicians of joujouka, they can follow the sounds in their head while looslely following ornette n ornette following himself, it's a whole new way of playing together, a whole new way of music I believe that could lead 2 even more ways of playing together and new sounds/music forms. It's not like charlie haden is following ornette exactly, maybe he has quite a bit but he has freedom 2 explore, he's not held down by accompaniment, and harmony or melody of the 'piece' dictating, except he dictates and bes with ornette loosely, same as higgins n cherry or blackwell etc, it's so free n easy, and it does away perhaps with the Western notion that if people aren't forced into education they won't educate themselves. I believe personally people have sense of purpose and will naturally want to be working on something, although I think the Western education system is a fine system, and does the job so to say, it's always interesting to question n try new things. Whatever the case Ornette had his style and way of music n I just love the freedom n folkiness n rawness, it's refreshing to listen to it after some improvising can seem too strictured by set rhythms n creating, n Ornettes music always seem Live, so I've seemed to understand it better by turning it up, this is real live playing music, not portraits or whatever even though that can be great too not always with ornette, at least turning it up has allowed me 2 really hear it and enjoy it, get it so now I am getting it more n trying to get more n more. ,: 0

Yeah perhaps it is got flaws too, it can even be limiting playing like that occasionally n not relating Anything to the chord progression cause anything works (Dolphys idea), I particularly like dolphys concept cause it seems 2 be like any note can work cause they all come out of eachother, n then u get Ayler n Cecil n with Dolphy though I just love to come from a few different points of view, ornettes n dolphys n etc, open the possibilites up to where so much could be possible n fascinating n exciting.

There was always a rumor that Harmolodics was all BS that Ornette made up to pull the wool over whitey's eyes.

@@lex3729 Yes makes sense, i think it is his own view and ignores everything that existed in music to this point, he has a unique mind and i think it is just the way he percieved his music without describing it in european music mindset. I mean modal folklore musics melody is also not driven by harmony but it is not equal to harmony because there not much harmony. So you can say his music is driven by ear and not western music theory but you could use western theory to classify his techniques.

It's an excerpt from Ornette Coleman & Prime Time - Bach Prelude

@@serena6464 thank you!

From this album: www.discogs.com/Ornette-Coleman-Prime-Time-Tone-Dialing/master/259196

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