That's genuinely fascinating. Thank you for sharing it.

Is there any chance that more of this interview exists?

Wynn Pierce Wheldon, Your father was mind-controller. Obviously, nothing to be proud of. 'Monitor' - mon - moon - the left-side of the brain. He was only, programming the masses to use their lower-self. Actors, directors and editors and such are employed to train something sinister into to sub-conscious of the unwitting. The BBC ain't nicknamed the British Brainwashing Corporation, for nothing. Incidentally, it is also, called the British Buggering Corporation because it is full of paedophiles and other freaks. That's why there is a statue of a boy and a weird looking man at the front entrance to it's studios. Your Dad was almost certainly, a Freemason (as they-all are) so, if you don't think I'm correct realise, that their is sentence punishable with death for those who, disclose their sordid secrets. Realise they are master manipulators and deceivers, which is why you are utterly clueless, I am sad to write 💙.

WOW.

I just watched your father's interview of OW in 1960 and it was brilliant. And I remember thinking so well that Welles enjoyed the interview and appreciated your father. You must be very proud. Thanks for sharing.

Study shakespeare and the great british actors. Its not just philosophy, its embodying life in all its permutations. Read about Harris and O’Toole. Believe me theres nothint wrong with you. Youre human, its the world thats growing sick. Men in this era understood deeply the literature and art of our history. You should too! Memorize some shakespeare

I should think it would depend on the particular mental malady. Certainly Donald Trump would never say it, but as far as we know he’s not psychotic; he suffers, rather, from multiple personality disorders. I’ve known (not very well, though) two schizophrenics, and I can imagine both of them saying it or something more or less like it.

At its most captivating in his assessment of Ms. Garbo.

​@@mortalclown3812hahahaha 😆

I'm sure they did but this is about the 7th interview in a row I have seen on You Tube and Orson has been pretty consistently candid and gregarious in all of them. From young, mid, to old age he seemed to have walked a thin line between being very intellectual and yet very candid and affable.

I can't even imagine any American actors engaging in a discussion this brilliant today.

Agree. Sad.

@@carefulconsumer8682 Why do you say “American” in particular?

i.e. "I think everybody in the play is mad; Hamlet's the only sane one in it." 5:06

Thanks for the lovely image I now have in my head of Orson Welles in a pink tutu and points...

Welles considered O'Toole in what turned out to be the Huston-role in the as yet unreleased The Other side of the Wind.

@@tomnovak9658 Available on Netflix at the moment.

Oh well... what a tool!

I don't know why i often return to the video to see him laugh out loud. So satisfying non scripted spontaneous reaction!

Yes

Personally, I was more taken with the twinkle in another man's eye - (and the gentle exasperation) as OW was guffawing in reaction to one of Peter's many elegant slam-downs.

Especially when they cut to the other guy who refuses to participate in such low brow humor lmao and then back to welles' contorted face.

Could someone exlain please what he laughs at?

Yes, I have watched it six or seven times.

Get over yourself

Yeah, I have a hard time imagining this conversation on modern TV, even on PBS.

Oh, lord. Have you seen the Dagwood movies? There was PLENTY of crap back then - and always. Just as there’s plenty of highbrow stuff now.

You can't stop playing this back? 😂 😂 😂 Get Netflix fast.

Travis Rios hahahahahahaha thats hilerious

6:35 for reference

@@Herodollus I'm sorry I have a bad English I can't understand what peter o'toole said before orson laughed. Can you please tell me?

Actors are insane .. all of them

@@SLASHzoneYEAH raving Swedish lesbian! I had to look it up too!

Yes moments of silence so the mouth does not spurt out gibberish like nowadays. Dumbing down for 21st century wimps.

@@alexr2172 great counterpoint. I think both points are equally valid.

Spot on. Actors. Movie stars are incidental.

Great point and brilliant considering one of O'Toole's greatest lines from "My Favorite Year" is "I am not an actor! I'm a movie star!"

The greatest actors are movie stars too. Star quality is charisma.

Not true.

Actors pretend to be somebody Movies stars pretend that somebody is them.

Steven segal

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I love them all together: Orson Welles busting out laughing, Milton's unamused stare, and Peter O'Toole looking around like, "C'mon, give it to me! Give it to me!"

Peter wasn't a homophobe was he? It would certainly surprise me if I discovered he was.

@@quincycampbell9828 I think in this case his use of the words "dyke" is more endearing than it is meant as an insult. They are after all talking about a fellow actor(Greta Garbo), whom they no doubt, in reality, respected.

It's hard to believe that he's from the midwest in U.S.

Downhill? The floor beneath it has concaved!

What makes you think THIS was “mainstream TV”

It was on BBC One and ran for many years. This was Mainstream TV.

Do you mean that Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, and Let's Make a Deal are the bottom of the barrel? Why I'm shocked!

@@viracocha A show like this would never get network time today. And even when one compares late-night tv shows like Johnny Carson to Jimmy Kimmel (and all the rest) you will notice the same disparity in quality.

cynicalgirl67 - Yes. Until the booze took its toll! What a pity!

@@wiseonwords Intellectuals and alcohol always go together and hand in hand.

OW was probably very jealous of PO.

It is not true that others follow the same path as you, Mylady

And Welles.

Adonis O'toole

Paul Wardle - I think you chose the wrong word to describe the Shakespearean passages. Shakespeare was not "obtuse" and he didn't write obtusely. Perhaps you meant to write "obscure."

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and they worked on some amazingly kick4ss, brilliant film projects btw ;-)

That's because no one talks about Hamlet on television anymore.

KenKen3593 I don't think the reason they speak so clearly is because of the pressure of appearing on TV or anything associated with it for that manner. I think it's more to do with appealing to the common denominator in TV and dumbing everything down, instead of speaking to your audience as if they had some understanding of what you were saying.

Especially when O'Toole called Greta Garbo a "raving Svenska dyke".

zipher123 I think the modern problem of TV you are describing is the incessant need for laughs brought about by the 'Late night' comedic host, which has infiltrated all TV interviewing and talk shows. It is about narcissistic promotion and forced comedy, which is why we can't have nice things like this. Actors roundtable comes rather close though, as does one on one director interviews.

Yes Orson is a beast of knowledge and domination. I agree he likes O'Toole's thoughts and company; that's an achievement, as Orson had zero tolerance for the weak minded.

Paul Baran The Orson can have a powerful influence on the weak-minded

well you could look at him in this way. The 'War of the Wars' was definitely a case of that. He was a control freak and perfectionist that influenced stanley Kubrick with that tendency, a monomania.

He's freakin' Orson Welles, pal

TheBritomart I'm a fan of Orson Welles.He is the greatest motion picture director of all time...

Was O'Toole Anglo-irish? Think he was simply Irish. Carson once said to him "You're English" (what an idiot) and Peter had to correct him!

@@linshanhsiang Well his mother was Scottish, his father was Irish but he was born in Leeds in England. So yes, Anglo/Irish. (Whatever yarn he span Carson).

@@pedelibero Being born on English soil does not make you English. And "Anglo Irish" has a precise meaning, that is, a descendant of English settlers on Irish soil who did not intermarry with native Irish. Look it up. And could a name be more Irish than "O'Toole"?

@@linshanhsiang'Anglo Irish’ does not just mean 'a descendant of English settlers on Irish soil'. The trouble with people like you is you look something up on Wikipedia and think you’ve done the research. Unlike you I am Irish and I get very tired of English people like O’Toole claiming they are Irish born when they’re not. To quote a headline in the Irish Independent ‘O'Toole's claims of Irish roots are blarney’. If you don’t know what ‘blarney’ means, look it up. PS having an Irish surname doesn’t make you Irish, that’s a fantasy indulged in by Yanks.

@@pedelibero "People like me"? You assume I base my remarks on Wikipedia, when they are actually based on years of reading about the Anglo-irish. Dictionaries support my contention that "Anglo-Irish" as a noun refers to descendants of English settled in Ireland. Second meaning is adjectival, referring to a treaty between the countries. Additionally, there is no reason to doubt that O'Tooles father was from Ireland. His mother may have been Scottish but archeologists tell us that the Irish settled Scotland in ancient times, eventually intermarrying with the native Picts, so Scots have the right to claim they are of Irish descent. You seem to support your opinion on a newspaper article. Well, we all know how much they are worth. Mostly good for lining the birdcage.

Thank you for this. Yes, it would've been great to see a collaboration between the two great talents.

Excellent perspectives on a delightful conversation.

As far as I can find, they never worked together on a film or play and our world is poorer for it, without doubt. However, they had a healthy stable of mutual friends (Anthony Quinn, John Huston, Richard Burton, Elizabeth Taylor, and John Gielgud being among the more notable) and so the two likely shared a dinner table more than once. Oh, to be a fly on the wall for those conversations, especially after a bottle of wine (or two, or three). Hopefully, the two are in the great theatre in the sky, splitting a humidor of fine cigars and whiling away eternity with the Bard himself. Ernest Milton, by the way, was an Anglo-American actor who played Hamlet regularly on the London stage from the 1920s to the 1940s, and in his day was considered one of the finest interpreters of the Danish Prince. The list of actors who could have made a better third triumvir for this discussion is remarkably short; in their day, it might have only included John Gielgud and Laurence Olivier, and were it possible, perhaps the ghost of Edwin Booth (conjuring a spirit to discuss Hamlet seems doubly fitting). Without resorting to gross sentimentalism, I wish modern television featured more stirring discourses like this. Look at the popularity of podcasts; clearly a market exists for fine conversation and expert discussion. And yet all our networks seem to produce is trite, sensationalized sludge. Thank goodness for KZfaq, preserving the thoughts of these masters for the interested and erudition-starved.

One minor thing I'd to add about the posting mentioning Johnny Carson. In The Best.of Johnny Carson 1970s-1980s, tape 2, halfway through, we.have "Huckster Hamlet" Johnny doing the To Be or Not To Be, constantly stopping to try and sell stuff. He says To sleep no.more... and pulls out over the counter sleeping aids! "The shocks that flesh is heir too..If you are having trouble with your shocks... and he pulls.out a card for car repairs..It's really not to be missed for fans of Hamlet.

What a flowering of popular culture that time was. Middle-brow culture at its height, and I don't mean "middle-brow" to be an insult in the slightest. It's a missing aspect of today's culture, where everything is either so supposedly "high" that it no longer has need for beauty, or is in the gutter, where beauty is mocked as something unattainable and therefore elitist and necessary to tear down.

Can you imagine a round table with Robert DiNiro, Lee Marvin, Warren Oats and Andy Warhol (he was a movie director)? I have seen them all on TV separately. Excruciating.

I'm pretty sure a round table with those four would be anything but excruciating - on the right day.

He was truly the most interesting man in the world and we have nothing remotely equal to his greatness today, much to our detriment.

+Jake Mabe Spot on.

This is nonsense! 3 drunks.

They never became drinkers until much later my dear. It is clear that, at this point (Oct. '63), they are bright, and their memories are functioning wonderfully in their primes. The stress and drinking that ravaged all of the great actors during this period, was just a ways off.

@@lynnmiller3937 Your envy is showing, my dear.

wouldve been friction between him and Welles, Welles didn't like him one bit

Richard Burton would have loved this debate...

Burton? no way, I would love to have had Shakespeare himself there to clarify what these guys are talking about cus I don't have a clue.

(Laughs uproariously for 20 seconds) Indeed.

I agree. These men are brilliant.

APLOMB? dont even try

Thankfully we still have conversations like this, just with less viewers

Oh hush, some JRE episodes have more intellectual rigor than this over sophisticated babble.

Essentially, them talking about Shakespeare is little different than some Marvel nerds discussing and over analyzing a comic book. All covered with a veneer of fancy words and polished accents.

Holyshit ... Holyfuckingshit. Truth! A nation of illiterates.

​@@PlayNiceFolks Boy did you just make that guy's point.

Noel Coward described him as Florence of Arabia.

You should see O'Toole' features prior to his nose job! What a difference even early plastic surgery made, but then again it's all subjective.

Always had a 'crush' on him, even as a very young woman. I wish the drinking didn't have to have been such a big part of his life. It killed me when he died.

@John Osman I'm American, and over several decades have taped on VHS over 20 operas, not all from the Met, also on the telly dramas of Ibsen like A Doll's House, Hedda Gabbler, The Master Builder, Euripides' Antigone... You also might want to study videos on very early radio. Clips of poetry readings to the strains of classical music, for the radio, come to mind. What radio became was the original soap operas, detective shows, westerns. The same high hopes you mentioned for TV existed also for radio, which of course didn't materialize. And if the public REALLY enjoys the mind- numbing garbage that dominates it, how do you explain how Frasier reached the top of the ratings for over a decade?( Catch the Frasier show with Derek Jacobi's guest performance as the ultra hammy Shakespearean actor, for which he won an Emmy)

esp in Lawrence of Arabia maybe the most beautiful man ever.

We do select who supposedly deserves to be famous, that's part of the problem. Welles and O Toole earned their fame, big difference.

I think these kinds of conversations still do happen; just not on TV anymore. We tend to have these conversations online nowadays, and they may be harder to find in the sheer volume of stuff that’s out there.

I wish we could have more people like these!! actors, writers directors id give anything to have a conversation with Orson Welles or Peter O' Toole, so interesting