Our 152,000 Mile E92 M3's dampers are useless - Are used dampers a cheap fix?
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2 жыл бұрынAfter 152,000 miles it's fair to say that the dampers on our E92 M3 are doing very little, something we discovered on our first drive, with the car bouncing down the road with very little body control.
Now with this car being on the 'budget' end of the price scale, we didn't want to jump straight to splashing out for brand new dampers, especially when we have a perfectly good used set from our Japan Red E92 M3, and equivalents can be picked up relatively cheaply second hand.
But will a set of used dampers improve the driving experience of our high mileage E92 M3? Lets find out.
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@aowen1079 2 жыл бұрын
With a basket price investment that's still under 20k for a future classic car with a V8, thats basically 100% with few more tweaks. That is just brilliant guys. Thanks for the videos of the high milage M3. Sometimes cars like these are all that some of us petrolheads can afford.
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
These are amazing cars, but because of that the values for good examples are quickly rising. We wanted to see if a ‘bad’ one was worth the money!
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what we’re slowly finding out!
@AustinBabbage 2 жыл бұрын
Being a bmw tech, idk how I have never thought of using the car as a spring compressor. Super neat idea. Thanks!
@waynecurtis7057 2 жыл бұрын
Same here pal 😳👌
@md60100 2 жыл бұрын
Same for me. Really had a "Why didn't I think of that" moment 😂
@Gladki007 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish this video came put 3 weeks ago before I changed front dampers on my e91😂
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t always work! Sometimes if the springs are too long it’s not possible to get them out, or if the dampers are fresh they can be very difficult to compress. You start to learn which cars it will and won’t work on. But when it does work, it’s a massive time saver, not to mention spring compressors are scary 😂
@TomP-148 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I must be highly qualified then 😂
@dennnis3374 2 жыл бұрын
Love the series, keep it going ! Always happy to see a new episode.
@automonkey4285 2 жыл бұрын
Great progress ! Keep it going guys.
@Skyhighrockhound1 2 жыл бұрын
Approaching 90k miles on mine, thanks for the video
@Hcarmad 2 жыл бұрын
Another informative video, will be great to see how much improvement can be achieved with the step by step replacement of worn components.
@jayyoung6364 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip with changing over the frony shocks 👌
@Sals_Garage 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, love the install tips
@tanvirhussain6106 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this series is going ahead
@fullSendGh 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading. Can't wait for the next upload.
@musarizvi5918 2 жыл бұрын
Love this E92 M3 series!
@spookyreaper1702 2 жыл бұрын
Also congrats on 100k that KZfaq play button should be coming in soon 🙌🏼
@thedetailingdoctor5746 2 жыл бұрын
Epic tip on compressing the spring there!
@waynecurtis7057 2 жыл бұрын
Love it mate, keep it up! 👍
@andrewmc8871 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have a 7K E92 M3 garage queen and am intrigued to watch the upgrade path... :)
@M12TEE 2 жыл бұрын
Great informative video 👏
@naimjacobs2372 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see another video of the e92 M3😃
@twinkmaster2 2 жыл бұрын
Will be very very interesting to see what makes the greatest improvement in the upgrade cycle you guys are doing!
@machtschnell7452 2 жыл бұрын
Not upgrade so much as restoration of deferred maintainence.
@DaveJMcGarry 2 жыл бұрын
Channel needs more Hash. He did my stage 2. The test drive was fun also on that same dual carriageway hehe. BTW that car has driven 4 times as many miles as mine!!! DAMN
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
He’s in the video! Just isn’t a fan of talking on camera.
@chiganuggoo9929 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Imran. Watching with interest. I've got a 2011 E92 M3 Competition Pack with 155,000 miles on it now. Had your Stage 2 put on a couple of years ago, as well as one of the first Full Eventuri set ups adding the Plenum & air box cover to the Intake I bought earlier. These videos are making me think now, I've noticed the car a little 'squirrelly' (another technical term!) and thinking my suspension could be due a refresh too. Because it's a daily driver I've not noticed the car drastically deteriorating on the handling front, but after watching your comments, think my car is suffering the same symptoms. I don't seem to have as much confidence in it's handling as I did.... Mind you, I put some of that down to the extra 'Oomph' from the Evolve Stage 2! Going to be following this journey and you'll probably see me booked in for some suspension work in the near future once I decide what to do.
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
We personally think at this mileage the entire suspension will need a refresh, and of course we’ll have the costs of that entire job. But by doing it in stages we wanted to see if there was any areas that made the most difference for those who can’t afford to do the entire setup. We look forward to seeing your car in the workshop!
@chick262 2 жыл бұрын
what is an entire set cost
@Andrew4181975 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things to modify on a car is the Suspension because of the immediate results, and a good suspension can make a car so so much better to drive. Im planning on getting an E92 M3 now that my E46 is paid off, but finding the right Spec one is damn near impossible for me because I want a NO option one, nothing , none, zero. That most basic one is Impossible to find.
@patrickstewart7992 2 жыл бұрын
They are definitely out there gotta know where to look .. I seen plenty while I was on my search
@SM-od2jh 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@chrispy104k 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a thing I don't understand about when those wheels are installed on the car. The damn things will seize on the hub flange like these were when they were just removed. Glad to see that Aston is going to add some lubricant to the surfaces. I have a 2008 135i and the first time I took the front wheels off I had a heck of a time trying to get them to break free. I eventually resorted to undoing the wheel bolts a little and then wriggled the steering wheel while the vehicle was on the ground to break them free.
@Nathan93Baker 2 жыл бұрын
Love this spec.😍
@sundeepubhi 2 жыл бұрын
This car looks so good!
@Bmwbroo 2 жыл бұрын
Never miss a video
@saragonmcenany6229 2 жыл бұрын
track rod ends. Spring pads. trail and sway bar arms
@TypicalBlue-rq8ri 2 жыл бұрын
Quality content 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@nycshelbygt500 2 жыл бұрын
A few tips for E9X M3 owners - Get the Competition Pkg. M3 EDC Shocks and Springs. A little lower and different performance. Need to code the EDC for Comp Pkg. The spring P/Ns are tricky, since there is a table depending on options (weight). X5, X6, X7 etc. EDC Shocks/Struts are $800 each. - There is a rubber hat under the struts...replace those since they wear. - Upgrade the brake lines to stainless steel while you are in there. - Check your front/rear control arms the next time the car is in a lift while getting an oil change. I think TRW makes the same control arms for BMW, but they are much cheaper. Refreshing all the control arms, plus tie rods (steering) is a must after 100k-120k miles.
@rakimashraf7280 2 жыл бұрын
For the front control arms is there only one part to change or is there upper and lower?
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
There isn’t an upper as such, there’s a front and a back.
@arisherwood4635 2 жыл бұрын
Which rear control arms do you recommend replacing? Trailing arm? Upper arm? Guide rod? All of the above?
@_Thale_ 2 жыл бұрын
Song choices are 👌🏿😉
@spookyreaper1702 2 жыл бұрын
Love this car to bits❤️imo one of the best m cars. The best would be the e46 m3 csl or m5 e60. But this one’s top3 last of the best m cars. Plus that v8😱😍😍my dad had one but sold it before I could even learn to drive 🤣so excited to see how this car turns out❤️
@albe3873 2 жыл бұрын
I’m actually waiting patiently for Blistein set up you wanted to test when it arrives.Any update on that? Want to get rid of that front arch gap plus see if it really better than current stock CP springs and dumpers. Mine is on 86k and I’m not sure if I noticed any play in suspension .Guess I need external judgment on that subject .
@thedetailingdoctor5746 2 жыл бұрын
And to be fair it’s actually better practice to remove the top mount in situe as when you remove the strut with the top mount in place it’s seriously tight to the wheel arch and it’s a big risk to hit it
@mattmarshall747 2 жыл бұрын
Whats that line in the front brake disc at 3 mins 40? Looks like a crack?
@PixelVogue 2 жыл бұрын
Turn this into a buyers guide lol Add a list of components changed/upgraded
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Something we plan to do!
@TheKatWeasel 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting series especially for me as I got my E92 330d on 160k it needed everything suspension wise changing, OEM m sport shocks, eibach springs, all arms and drop links changed out for new heavy duty ones, including top mounts and bottoms mounts etc. it cost me an awful lot, including 2 rear wheel bearings to get it through its MoT however at 183k it’s now pretty immaculate!
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Refreshing all the suspension really goes a long way to making a car feel fresh.
@abrarali7351 2 жыл бұрын
How much did it set you back?
@TheKatWeasel 2 жыл бұрын
@@abrarali7351 I did the majority of work myself and without going through my bank statements probably budget £1000 for all decent quality parts!
@shadleybam3140 2 жыл бұрын
E9x m3 content😍😍😍
@thedetailingdoctor5746 2 жыл бұрын
Real costings incl labour 🙌👌
@VR46YAMAHA 2 жыл бұрын
Spark plugs changed in an hour is some achievement! Took me a good 3 at least as I had to wait for the misses to get home as she's got smaller hands! ha
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
It takes our techs around that, depending if anything is being annoying. For a first time it will definitely take longer!
@philipmcnally39 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of budget ,why not send the dampers to nagengast in Poland for a refurb they also refurb aluminium bottom arm ball joints.
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Hadn’t heard of them before, just had a quick look, can’t see any listing for E9x M3 but possibly an alternative. Still looks like it would be near £1000 for full refurbishment based on F3x prices but definitely cheaper than new OEM.
@philipmcnally39 2 жыл бұрын
No probs ,could be a Collab with them ,looking forward to the series
@abubakarahmed4281 2 жыл бұрын
Do you run the performance friction z pads on your e92s? If not which pads for fast road would you recommend
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Friction Z Pads are great for fast road use. Work well in all temps and low dust compared to others.
@hirojj.1723 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! The 6,8000 miles shock from red M3 is still working? Could you tell us how many miles the standard shock works? Are you going to exchange clutch plate of this blue M3?
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t work like new, but are far better, actually controlling the spring. No plans to unless we see signs of it failing.
@jonty4664 2 жыл бұрын
Sorted 👊🏻✌🏾
@listtessol3658 2 жыл бұрын
any body know what the name of that open socket is 6.14 i need one too bad
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Strut nut socket/open socket will find what you’re looking for!
@akbarmughal5757 2 жыл бұрын
Did you manage to resolve the wheel wobble on this car? If so what was the issue?
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Not something we’ve got to yet, one step at a time 😅
@akbarmughal5757 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvolveAutomotive absolutely, I like the systematic approach to diagnosing issues on this M3!
@seanpaul3050 2 жыл бұрын
Wheel wobble most likely due to front control arms and tie rods. You can buy a kit and get them all done at the same time. On an old car can also be other things such as wheel alignment camber/toe/castor warped brake discs brake discs not sitting flush on hub due to grit or dirt or damaged mating surface wheels not sitting flush on brake disc again due to grit or dirt or damaged mating surface road wheels could be slightly bent or buckled wheels might not be balanced properly tyres might be distorted/damaged or mounted incorrectly on the wheel rim
@matthewedwardfield 2 жыл бұрын
Dont upgrade anything..stick to showing us how a perfect e92 should be. Pointing out issues and showing us the process is way better than bolting chargers on or tuning it.
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
We hope to get this back performing exactly how it should be, and show costs.
@BryceBrown1 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thanks. Does anything need re-torqueing after a period of time? I just had Bilsteins fitted to the E61, B6 front and B4 rear. Beautiful ride! 🙂
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Correctly torqued suspension hardware shouldn’t need re-torquing after the car has left the workshop. But it never hurts to check, or mark the bolts to see if they have moved.
@vassamoylov9902 2 жыл бұрын
Are those spark plugs made out of gold? 160 pounds is roughly $216 US dollars. A set of 8 NGK plugs here in the states is around $80.
@nycshelbygt500 2 жыл бұрын
BMW charges $30 each for the OEM Spark Plugs made by NGK. Always go OE/NGK. Service interval is only 35k miles. FCP will replace them free.
@seanpaul3050 2 жыл бұрын
Only an idiot would buy spark plugs from a BMW STEALER, unless you get a 40% off trade discount. Find out the part number and buy the same plugs from a good parts supplier. BMW parts prices have gone absolutely insane recently. BMW wanted £50 for a rear BMW badge when I looked the other day. Don't think so.
@vassamoylov9902 2 жыл бұрын
@@nycshelbygt500 that was my point. A full set of NGK plugs from fcpeuro are $80. 160 pounds for plugs plus 100 pounds for labor is absurd.
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
You could of course buy the NGK version, but we chose to get them direct from BMW. It’s up to the customer.
@RAJohnson713 2 жыл бұрын
Still pretty good for 152k miles
@chick262 2 жыл бұрын
what would all this work cost guys ,
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
We break down costs at the end
@claudioagmfilho 2 жыл бұрын
🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻👏🏻
@sasar.7903 2 жыл бұрын
My e92 330D has 205k miles and doesn't look that rusty lol
@erniearambula3525 2 жыл бұрын
Looked like the previous owner did nothing as far as cleaning the car's underside, how in the world can an M owner be so negligent.
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Would say the majority of owners never clean the underside of a car.
@happyguy4525 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a BMW technician. Garbage shit boxes. Of course if your gonna put old used dampers, stupid idea. Since when did putting used old parts on a shit box gonna make it good again. All these newer shit boxes. A pain in the ass to work on Where my shit boxes techys at y'all
@mattnycm3 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a strut brace in the back would help to keep the rear from moving around under acceleration.
@EvolveAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
See this is the problem and kind of the point we want to make in this series. People modify cars before doing maintenance, fixing worn out components with additional modifications. Applying a bandaid rather than fixing the actual problem. The rear end of this car is not because BMW designed it poorly, it is because the components are worn out.
@nycshelbygt500 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to #AstonMartin for the new 007 Movie "No Time to Die" #DB5 Other than all the great cars, Ana de Armas is the only reason to see this film.
@thibaultjacqueloot87 2 жыл бұрын
£100 an hour?😂😂
@eldrl001 2 жыл бұрын
£100 an hour, vs 2-3 hours at £60 an hour. Do the maths….
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