If only there was a way to try different types of shocks out to see exactly what YOU like and not just what people say about a product… there too expensive to “try out” and then you can’t return them…
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
exactly, which is why we're testing as much as possible across a bunch of vehicles, and talking about how they feel in the more precise terms.
@Prerunner_xj8 ай бұрын
If only there was a way to revalve them to your preference after buying them 🤔😂
@jackpixley36962 жыл бұрын
I agree. Had fox and king 2.5 shocks. Fox rode like a wagon on wooden wheels. Not sure why. Kings made my truck ride very smooth.
@ShockSurplus2 жыл бұрын
The video is for the 2.0 series which do reflect much more than Fox 2.5 vs King 2.5. Both the 2.5 are great options and we run both brands on own vehicles.
@danielpyziak65372 жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus did you mean rebound instead of reflect?
@kg0311 Жыл бұрын
@Shock Surplus what about the 2.5in IFP FOX Shocks from Mopar or the new JKS ones?
@Moon222 Жыл бұрын
the Fox 2.5 has adjustable lowspeed/highspeed, did you leave it at factory values? supposedly, you can make it much smoother
@mortifiedpenguin589510 ай бұрын
@@ShockSurpluswhat does 2.0 and 2.5 mean
@TangoTangoAlpha Жыл бұрын
This is why I like the Bilstein BlackHawk e2 on the TRX. Dual valve digitally tunable digressive shock with reservoir. Not a pillow like Fox, so many people say it’s “harsh” comparatively. Well yes. It is for several reasons. Reasons: more handling on street (95% of driving), very planted without the floating boat feeling, much more driver feedback in the steering wheel & seat (sense of terrain/road), less body roll & pitch, no boat like floating feeling, takes harsh impacts easier because it’s designed specifically to hit harder and more comfortable at higher piston velocity, less chassis rattle, lasts longer due to less internal force at high velocity, and it’s tunable at the press of a button to your desired drive quality. Many guys think “Baja” is the softest, select it, then are disappointed when they feel all the small bumps on their commute… Baja mode an aggressive configuration (though sport mode has quicker rebound) meant to resist a 7k lb ballistic missile launching at peak 702hp take offs, jumping, and slamming down on soft earth. Street mode is the softest configuration. Some dudes have taken the suspension out because Baja wasn’t soft enough and thrown in a set of manually tunable Kings. 🤦♂️ They’ll bottom the truck out on a jump, destroy the 5th strut struggling alone, and cause far too much chassis & driveline jostle.
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
haven't had a chance to drive the TRX yet, thanks for the info
@suetaylor11273 ай бұрын
Thanks for that. Are yours long travel?
@bernie30758 күн бұрын
Excellent explanation.
@jasonkubitz9410 Жыл бұрын
I've had them all and I still stand by Fox with a custom tune. Off the shelf they can either make your ride better or worse. I always change out my shocks on factory vehicles except my RZR. It does help I have a few tuner buddies that help me fine tune my shocks but I've never been happy with off the shelf shocks. Even companies that claim they tune their shocks for your vehicle. Every vehicle is different along with specific applications. From my experience, Fox has the best technology hands down. Also, set it forget it shocks are not ideal. Always opt for adjusters with whatever brand you get. That way you can accommodate for different loads and terrain. This is from about 20 years of my personal experience.
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We love Fox as well but it's not always made for everyone. We run them on our own vehicles but these are full off-road rigs. We do like to ask consumer who are interested in parts to give us as much details to their build goals, truck usage or driving style and so forth.
@jasonkubitz9410 Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus Same here. I had a fully built 02 Ford Ranger with Camburg long travel front and Deavers in the rear with shock hoops through the bed. Of course my RZR is only off-road and the custom tune I have on those shocks made a huge difference. My Ranger first had set it and forget it Fox all around and then I went King set it and forget it. Both sets I ran stock and they were custom tuned. I went full adjustable custom tuned Fox and I was blown away. My 2012 had a mid travel kit with custom tuned Fox 2.5 coil overs. Ran the stock tune and I wasn't impressed. I had custom tuned Fox 2.0 non resi on my 2017 Ford F250 and now have Fox FRS 2.5 w DSCs. Night and day difference. Especially when towing. Even my dirt bikes and quads have custom tuned factory shocks. Nothing compares to a custom tune. As far as the different brands, I would say there is a little difference but the tune is what makes it great. Only off the shelf shock I've ran without any tunes was bilstein on my wife's Expedition. Oh, and Monroes on my sedans. I've never had a non adjustable off the shelf shock work good at all off-road.
@respekted2 ай бұрын
If you guys could measure thermal performance under load that would be a great indicator of potential failure or reliability.
@SuperSnakePlissken Жыл бұрын
I have the orange fox Trd shocks on my tundra pro and they are the best shocks I’ve ever had on a truck.
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
They're definitely solid, love the IBP feature on those
@redcorn6668 ай бұрын
I work for king shocks and they are top notch 👌
@desertsavagery22 күн бұрын
Blink twice if they're making you say that against your will...honestly I've been looking at a lot of shocks and got a comprehensive setup icon is the only one that has a truly comprehensive kit for the new Suburban/Tahoe/Yukon 😊, but from a daily comfort aspect which is 70-80% of my driving King seems like the best option.
@ShockSurplus2 жыл бұрын
Of course 2.5 options can be custom tuned, coilovers vs straight shocks, lots of things can make a difference
@adamwest3637 Жыл бұрын
Where is the best place to buy the 2.5’s?
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We have em on our site shocksurplus.com
@timjohanson588 Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus How much movement is expected from the bearings located at the mounting bolts?
@TheVapSter3 күн бұрын
I just installed rear fox 2.0 on an lowered f150 with rear flip kit and they are superior to 3 different drop shocks i have tried in the past. Djm, belltech street & performance. With thw fox you get great comfort but also get great control and dont bottom out like the belltech streets. Somehow, fox got both aspects in one shock compared to the rest i tried. You either get control/firm or soft/comfort.
@ShockSurplus8 сағат бұрын
love to hear it, thanks for the feedback!
@ArcticTechnology10 ай бұрын
King is king 👑
@shawsie57805 ай бұрын
I have custom valved Fox suspension on my Isuzu MUX in Australia, rides on and off road beautifully👌
@CaydenFlowers6969696969 Жыл бұрын
Installing stage 10 icons next week ! Super stoked
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
LETS GO! Hope it all goes well. That's going to be fun and long install.
@jonnyhalo1041 Жыл бұрын
That's why I got fox with dsc control, I can get exactly what I need for what I'm up to that day. Love them
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
glad you like em, thanks for the feedback
@kirkdunn1379 Жыл бұрын
The best you know is the best you've ridden on.....most people don't change their suspension out to know the differences between the brands....really expensive to do so.... But yeah all can be custom tuned......KING is right down the street from me and been in game along time.....would choose them and tune accordingly
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We have tested various parts on various trucks and try to give our unbiased opinion. But we are also limited to what vehicles as we work on vehicles that we own are our family and friends own.
@joshsstreetrods Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus do you re valve shocks?
@teksirykassir4014 Жыл бұрын
@@joshsstreetrodsthey do not
@cpj193554 ай бұрын
I'm new to the 4x4 world and find these videos very informative! Keep em coming!
@ShockSurplus4 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@davidonewayticket33884 ай бұрын
Hello there. I do like 5 miles per day of dirt road nothing crazy. What do u recommend if i am looking for comfort? Thnsk
@RonnieBravo_ Жыл бұрын
You mean its how the shock is valved... pick a color and valve it correctly.
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We review them as out of the box. But yes you can have them re-valved to your specific needs.
@AsapfragglerockАй бұрын
Other video from this same company said king shocks were the stiffest and only showed improvement while extreme off-roading 🙄
@bigdaddystep.9 ай бұрын
I have a 22 Chevy hd. I like the highway handling and prefer the stiff ride. That being said I have to idle on dirt roads. Is there anything that lets me go just a bit faster on dirt but maintain my highway handling???
@ShockSurplus9 ай бұрын
If you like tight handling as well as a firmer ride and would like to be able to go a little faster off road Icon is definitely your ticket. They will be tight as a drum on the road for the most stability on the highway and pretty much only get better the faster you go off road.
@sublord2065 Жыл бұрын
I do pipeline work. 90% highway and 10% off-road. Sometime 10% road & 90 % off road. Which shock would you recommend?
@captainsanake8411 Жыл бұрын
If you ever trailer anything I’d go for a more “stock” style shock like the bilstein 5100 if you aren’t all these shocks are tunable so I’d look who’s closest to you and at how many miles each are rated for
@alexpadilla82136 ай бұрын
What would you recommend ? I want better ride quality I’m on a 10 inch lift I know it’s gonna ride not to good but something that’ll improve it?
@ShockSurplus6 ай бұрын
It depends on application but you will likely have to get a custom build done by King. Fox and Icon generally do not service lifts that tall.
@mikeradke9786 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking to get a smoother ride on my 2011 f-250 w/20” wheels. I sometimes trailer a Skidsteer around town I’d say once a month. What shocks do you suggest?
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
All three would probably do well enough, but you could save your self some money and a lot of maintenance by going with a set of Bilsteins or Eibachs for the way you are using it. These high end options are killer, and can be set up and tuned to be pretty comfortable and stable, but a less expensive set of Bilsteins or Eibachs would more than handle your needs for less money and require next far less service if they ever need it at all.
@cmkpro818 ай бұрын
Only fact is we can’t afford to go out and just try them til we find the ones we like.
@ShockSurplus8 ай бұрын
That's why we take the time to test them on our own vehicles for you so that if anybody ever reaches out for a suspension upgrade, we can offer advice based off our real-world experiences with the shocks we sell. The newest rig in the fleet is our 2022 Bronco, which is on its 7th set of shocks in the last year and more are on the way. Every time we test something new we post a review video with a detailed article, and add the parts and our thoughts about them to buyers guides so you can get all the knowledge we've gained from all the miles of testing in one place.
@bobcat718 Жыл бұрын
How would you compare these to the Falcon 3.3 sp2
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
None of these compare really, these are all 2.0 options, non reservoir. The Falcon probably ride closest to the Icon though in terms of handling and bump compliance. But the Falcon 3.3 have all these beat, thicker body, rebound adjustable, reservoirs, cant lose. www.shocksurplus.com/search?query=falcon-3.3
@thatsalah10 ай бұрын
Which one is good for the city more comfortable on the road ?
@ShockSurplus10 ай бұрын
The King is probably the most plush but they can be a little loose though we think is usually the better choice. They are still very comfortable but offer a lot more stability than the King. With that said if you have any towing or hauling in the cards you will definitely want the Icon.
@joeyskinner8366 Жыл бұрын
My icons 2.5 are pretty good
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We are glad to hear that
@jd-it4on2 ай бұрын
R u talking off road or on
@stevehaluza69924 ай бұрын
You're being rather vague. What was the test course, the highway, off-road through the desert, or rocky mountainous terrain??? Where's Bilstein and Eibach inches scenario???
@mariomarin15522 жыл бұрын
My kings setup by far was a better ride all around from stock.
@ShockSurplus2 жыл бұрын
When we put kings on the wrangler, they were way too mushy, but these were the 2.0
@robp418 Жыл бұрын
Fox and king are both good options. Most of it depends on the tuning. Accutune got my foxes dialed in for my Jeep
@ivanchavez9483 Жыл бұрын
What are you running the kings on?
@Raptor-7 Жыл бұрын
Which fox shock will fit an 03 Yukon Denali?
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
The 2.0 IFP series
@patriotsedge6730 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE my Icon Stage 2 with RXT option 3 leaf pack on our Tacoma TRD Off Road.
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
That is great to hear! We also had ran an Icon stage 8 on a 2005 Toyota Tacoma and it definitely helped out in a lot of aspects.
@shawnamontalbo66 Жыл бұрын
would you recommend running icon on a 6 inch lift tacoma or fox 2.0 ?
@darylRvillaescusa Жыл бұрын
From experience. None will survive after a year in up north in the salt. Go get ironman, it will last for years and years
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Case by case situation but we haven't much concerns with those living conditions which salt is used more aggressive. We don't offer Ironman so we can't tell you how long their parts will last but we haven't had issues with various companies producing parts.
@darylRvillaescusa Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus well I have ironman on my vehicle right now for about 6 months and still looking good. My old one was icon, which was on my vehicle for 3 years. About a year in my vehicle, it started to rust. And 2 years after, it is so rusted it's not worth to rebuild it just by how rusted it is. So I did my research and called ironman and ask questions. They told me that icon, fox, and king are just coated with zinc, which he said will wear out after a year. While theirs is painted with layers. That's why they can warrant Thiers suspension for 3 years, while the others have 1 year warranty. So far I'm happy with my ironman. The real test is this winter coming up.
@tommyweese56978 ай бұрын
I was looking for a comment like this. I work for an oil field company that hauls salt water. And these Mfin truck drivers love to dump the water on the lot. It has rusted out all of our service trucks and personal vehicles. I’m wanting to do a Baja long/medium travel kit on my 08 f150 and have been looking at shocks that won’t be destroyed.
@suetaylor11273 ай бұрын
Mid travel?
@ShockSurplus2 ай бұрын
not sure what you're asking
@ivanramirez3230Ай бұрын
Icon commercial lol King is King
@ShockSurplus26 күн бұрын
tell us you haven't ran many suspensions without telling you haven't ran many suspensions
@jacoblux5986 Жыл бұрын
Bilstein?
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
these 2.0 are comparable to the 5100s, but all these need serviced and can be custom tuned
@JPHET37 Жыл бұрын
King yes!
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
They are all great and have their own pros and cons and designed different for different styles of usage or end user goals.
@ivanchavez9483 Жыл бұрын
I just bought kings for my jlu😮
@melvinthemechanic6 ай бұрын
Icon ??????? The ppl who makes tools 😂😂😂
@ShockSurplus6 ай бұрын
LOL Something like that kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7ZzZ5uf0dmcg3k.html
@kingsamoanOG Жыл бұрын
I've ran Fox almost every series and THEY ARE GARBAGE!!! I run a 10" lift and I'm done with Fox brand shocks they're trash Chinese garbage
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
Fox is an American company and its two main locations are California and Georgia. We run Fox on our own vehicles and have no issues.
@kingsamoanOG Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus Don't leave out their Massive plant in Taiwan where they manufacture most of the Fox parts and then ship them back to America to be assembled here. You can run what you want but I saw how fast Fox shocks blew out on my lift not once not twice but 3 times and I've tried multiple series with and without the reservoirs. My old 7.3 crew cab had Bilstein and then king on a 6-8" adjustable and I never had the blow out issues I've had with Fox the past few years. What series do you recommend for a 10"-12" lift F350 running 40x15.50r26s
@ShockSurplus Жыл бұрын
We are aware of their facility for the MTB stuff but their off-road truck department is here in the US. Fox does not make a 10" shock for any of the F350. We're not sure what you're using but it doesn't seem correct. Fox does make parts for a 6-7" but nothing more than that for this case. We assume these are custom parts. We don't have any parts to work with a 10-12" lift.
@kingsamoanOG Жыл бұрын
@@ShockSurplus So the guys at the local 4X4 shop here have been putting on the wrong size Fox shocks on my truck the entire time?? If I can give you the part number off my last set of Fox shocks I took off about 2 months ago after the front driver side blew out can you tell me if it's a correct shock for the truck. If that's the case sounds like I need to go have a talk with the fab shop that's been doing my work for the past 5+ yrs. Not sure why they would get me the wrong shocks for the setup they built but you guys are the experts not me.
@Mike-xn1bh Жыл бұрын
@@kingsamoanOG What model number Fox shock were you using? I have an Excursion with an 8” F250 lift (amounts to 10” on Excursion) but I’m having trouble finding remote reservoir Fox 2.0s