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that Mahud king Man is scary Ilya brought it up against some dale destroyed a line of 15 dale knights in 2 turns... scary

I appreciate you guys having the army lists in this as well as talking about the heroes. Is helping me decide which faction to play.

2 cave drakes sounds really fun! I definetly have to try that!

My favourite unnamed hero is the moria goblin captain. In moria, the heroes are not what hits hard, it's all the monsters and sheer number of troops that do the damage. 35 points (40 with the shield) for 2 points of might to manoeuver my cave Trolls or balrog are worth their weight in gold. The opponent will mostly have to counter your heroic moves with their own, hence they drain their might pools as well. Which is exactly what I want with my own mightless Monsters. Once their heroes are dry, what are going to do? Absolute Playmakers

awesome content guys!

Great video. I always enjoy these discussions. Just a few thoughts. I agree with Richard on this one. Cave Drakes are one of the best monster profiles in the game. I've ran between 1-5 in multiple games. They are absolutely devastating to enemy lines and can kill almost any enemy hero in the game if they get to charge. A lot of players think their 92x120 base is a disadvantage. I disagree. Drakes being on an oval base may make it easier to trap them, but it also makes it very difficult to try and lock them down with 1-2 models, especially if you protect their flanks. If you didn't get to charge during the initial fight, Barge gets you that incredible Monstrous Charge bonus and the oval base will usually allow you to get into 3-4 models. In a tournament last year, I took out an entire warband of 12 IH Dwarves along with their Capt with 1 Drake and 4 shield Goblins. Another useful thing about the Drakes is if you take more than 1 Drake, *all* of the Drakes get to lay a nest marker and all of them gain Fearless within 3" any of those markers. Multiple 3" Fearless bubbles strategically placed around the board is incredibly useful and powerful when you have a scenario where you have to cover a certain point(s) on the map or you need to hold an objective. Most experienced players won't send their best heroes against the Drakes b/c they can flash kill nearly any other non-monster hero in the game and even a lot of the monsters if you use Heroic Strength. Inexperienced players may do it once.

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Really enjoying the content since I found this channel a week ago! My favourite unnamed hero I’ve used is the Palace Guard Captain, whilst next to Thranduil he’s F7 S4 with plus 1 to wound and a hand a half elven blade at D7 with a shield for his points he’s dangerous in that battle line

Just started building & painting Black Gate Opens LL and this video comes out ✌🏻

For reference the cave drake eggs are faq'd as just a marker so cant be used to block things

I really wish that black gate got shamans, without the fury your army can just fall apart. At 800 I took 3 cheiftens and mouth of sauron I might have been unlucky but I was up against 3 terror causing armies at the tournament I just couldnt charge anything with my orcs and my cheefies just fell apart :(

I would arguee that the Troll- cheftain in the black gate legion counts as an named hero, as you can only have one with the buffed stats

Surely the troll cheiftan in the legion doesnt count as an unamed hero because you can only take one buffed troll chieftain

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What size base is the bat swarm?

as a khazad lad im wondering why no mention was made of warden teams? great video, enjoyed the hell out of it, but "khazad dum have no spears" kept getting thrown in during the kings champion section and it bugged me :D especially since they would be useful against all the other lists. something to threaten cave drakes and trolls, so you aren't locked into killing troops for the break. and vs far hard foe spears can still support other models than their shield pair, they just lose the bonus to wound vs monsters. so you could have S4 support for iron/hearth guard and also have a D9 shielding model (-1 to duel but they aint there to kill stuff) to block camels. sure they're points heavy but elvish back line aint exactly cheap either.

Just wondering on the Harad/ Far Harad list. Won’t 7 harad bows be too many? Heroes don’t count for the bow limit so Suladan cannot be counted as the 7th for the bow limit.

Is the Balrog a named or unnamed hero? I mean… there used to be many Balrogs…