Hello, thank you very much. You take care. Cheers!

Hello Amilynn, Thank you...it is a disappointment for sure. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Brian, I was hoping I did go over and above what I needed...these logs weigh 400lbs each, skidding two lengths at a time = 800lbs, add friction... another 700lbs . 800lbs +700lbs = 1500lbs ... 1500lbs x 2 = 3000lbs I hope my math makes sense to you? Thanks again. You have a great evening. Cheers!

Hello Matthew, back years ago I took a hoisting course to repair over head cranes in a welding shop...winches don't care if they're pulling vertical or horizontal...this is why you never see only for flat pulling on the box of a winch, they also never say this winch can also pull a car up hill or out of a ditch ;-) Thanks again. Cheers.

@@SkinnersOffGrid That is simply wrong information. Winches are for pulling, hoists are for lifting. The instructions clearly state 1 minute of work time needs 5 minutes of rest time. Deadlifting logs, and holding them in the air for extended periods of time is not using the winch properly at all. I like what you do, but you are wrong here. For what you're doing I'd recommend a 10,000lb winch.

Hello, Lol yup it's beat now. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Jeffrey. Yes you're right. Thanks again. Cheers!

Good morning Denis, I actually took it apart last night and discovered it had the main gear broken :-( I'm guessing it was cracked from new. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Rebecca, yeah I think it was on it's way out...I think it's a factory defect :-( Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Jeff. Thank you very much. Yes you're right lol. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Lou, yes you're right...I'm glad as well neither of us were under it. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Tom, Well thank you very much. You have a great evening. Cheers!

Hello Diane, Thank you...I feel exactly the same as you. You have a great evening. Cheers!

Hello James, I am hoping this is just a factory defect....but it wouldn't hurt to have an extra on hand ;-) Yeah these logs only weigh around 400lbs each. Hey you're very welcome. Thank you for watching and commenting. Thanks again. You have a great evening. Cheers!

Hello. yes that's what I was thinking....maybe a factory defect. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Paul, Aww thanks. I'm pretty sure we'll be up and going again tomorrow if it don't rain. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Roland, Yeah...I'm glad for sure we didn't get to close to the logs...I'm also glad I didn't drop one of these logs on a cheaply made store bought mill. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Richard, Thank you...I just uploaded a video about the Starlink this evening. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rbuDrbeYmtilZqc.html Cheers!

Hello my friend, Yeah it sure does lol. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Keith, this is a 400lb log, the winch is a 3000lb winch....that equals one and a half tons, it should be able to handle a 400lb log. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello, thanks..this winch had a factory defect. It was replaced under warranty and has worked great since we changed it a few years ago. Cheers!

@@SkinnersOffGrid Be careful. There are a few companies that make hoist specific winches. Like Warn with their dc800 it's rated to lift and more importantly lower an 800lb load. Hopefully the champion keeps working.

Yeah..I mostly use these Champion winches because they are cheap and easy to get here..and they have a good warranty. Cheers!

Hello Frank, yeah it was..we should have no problem. Thanks again. Cheers.

Hello G, yup I agree with you...we certainly didn't over load it. Thanks again. You have a great evening. Cheers!

Hello Beasley, Thanks....this did have an automatic brake in it ;-) Thanks again. Cheers.

Hello Don, Yeah it's pretty sad for sure the way they're made now. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello my friend, Thanks..I'm afraid we'll be exchanging this for another one the same :-( I'm thinking this must have been a defect. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Jiim, it sure has lol. Thanks again. Cheers.

Hello, yeah I think it was a bad set of gears right from the factory. Thanks again. Cheers.

Hello...I think you maybe onto something :-) just the mental stress alone may warrant a pie or two ;-) lol. Thanks again my friend. You have a great evening. Cheers!

Hello, I'm afraid it would take way to long to jack this boom from the ground up 4 feet and on to the other logs. Thanks again. Cheers!

I figured that's why you used a power winch. I've never been a fan of less than high dollar winches because for me they always seemed to develop problems like what you're having. I'd guess that the ratchet pawl in your winch isn't working now. I might consider putting a cheap chain fall hoist onto the end of the boom if I couldn't get the power winch operational.

same as the chinese electric motor speed controllers that are rated at 300A but blow up at a continuous 50 A draw.

lift weight is not the same as pull weight the winch is only rated for like 500 lbs lift weight they simply have an under rated winch for the job they are doing

I believe you misspelled “ when”, lol. 😉

Hello Mark, thanks, I have a cordless remote I'll be installing next. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello, yeah the crane structure would almost lift a house before breaking....but these cheap winches are a real problem :-( Thanks again. You have a great day. Cheers!

Hello Joseph, This does have a brake in it. Plus The cable on the drum don't know the difference. Do they make winches for only pulling on the flat... or can they be used to pull a log up a hill? :-( Thanks again. You have a great day. Cheers!

@m9 ovich i recently took apart and fixed a 12k rough country winch, a cheap china one but much larger than this, the brake mechanism was a couple cones that pushed towards each other using this cam profile and the cones seperated 3 pieces of brake fiber material that jammed against the inside of the drum, when torque was sent back though it from the motor that spread back apart and let pressure off the brake segments but any pull from the line end not being taken by the motor would spread these segments and jam directly against the drum so even a stripped gear shouldnt overide the break could be a different system though, winches in general have amazingly tight tolerances on these brakes i dont exactly understand how i would think thered need to be atleast an 1/8 turn of the drum to spin these brakes out into action but it seems they work almost the instant the motor stops reeling in the brake catches its not like the winch lets out a inch or two of line before the brake applies

A winch is made only for pulling, It has a break but it is nor made so it can hold a load as you found out. If you look in the owners manual it should say something like " Not for over head use" or something along that line . A Hoist is made so that it can hold the full load at a complete stop and at load rate for as long as you may want/ need it to. You can use a hoist for pulling but it is not what it is made for. Go with the next size up winch, use a block when lifting and don"t get under the load, But know that you are using something that could get you at some point if you let it. Not telling you what to do only that there is a difference between a winch and a hoist and there use. Be safe,

Hello Joseph. Yes the brakes are different, I took a hoisting course years ago to repair chain blocks, come alongs and over head cranes...my point is using the winch this way should have made no difference why the gears stripped. A 3000lb winch can easily lift a 400lb log easy and the brake will hold, I mean for crying out loud, I've used them all my life dragging vehicles up on steep trailers and it never hurt them, it's not like this my first time using a winch :-(

Hello Joseph, I'm guessing you've never been round many older tow trucks in your life, some were just electric winch's doing the same job as my winch. Check out some videos on KZfaq. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gJanfZSTscCtj2g.html Cheers!

Hello James, yeah I'm pretty sure they're mostly made in the same place now :-( Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Joe, when I was younger I worked for a towing company..we always used an electric winch mounted on the back of the boom. We would get about five years out of one before we had to replace them. Cheers!

@@SkinnersOffGrid Thankyou for answering me. I'm east of North Bay and plan to build a trailer like yours as I just got a Woodmill band saw mill and at 72 my days of swinging logs are long gone. After I retired I started making electric guitars so I like to quarter saw the wood plus it's cheaper. Thank you keep well.

Hello Geoffrey, yup I agree with you. these 8' logs weigh 400 lbs each, I've seen these 3000lb winches installed on 100lb plus side by side's and they pull out of mud up to the axles no problem. Thanks again. Cheers!

Hello Andrew, That would be awesome...You wouldn't happen to know any good winch companies eh? The trouble now is I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are all made by the same company :-( Thanks again. You have a great day. Cheers!

@@SkinnersOffGrid I don't know any, I usually see what you have and buy that cause I know it either works or it can be repaired. I have all the same equipment you do cause I follow this rule; if Cecil has it, it can be fixed or lasts. Thats why I got the case 310, built the same log trailer like yours, got the sawmill, and so on. Maybe someone here knows of a winch company thats up to the Skinner Homestead challenge. :)

Well thank you..this is a great compliment, we still have the 310 Case that I plan on getting going again someday. It would be nice if someone on here could point me towards a good winch company. PS. This is also why I won't do review videos on something unless I think it will stand up under our conditions ;-) Thanks again. You have a great day. Cheers!

@Autigers 2013 - Did you read my complete comment? Lighten up Francis! Cecil knows I am joking around. A lot of my comments are joking around, you will get the same thing from me in person. I make fun of myself and the people around me. It's all in good nature.

Hello fred, that shouldn't have made a difference. Most atv's weigh over 800 lbs...get the stuck in mud up to their axles and that's a lot harder pull than an 800 lb log skidding on moss...with me helping it even. I think it was a factory defect. Thanks again. Cheers.

Hello, Thanks...yeah it is at that. We'll try to get it replaced and get back at it. Thanks again. You have a great day. Cheers.