you should try 144p, that's a noticalbe difference :D

to load 144p take me 13 hours, i wathching from kazakhstan in 12x10 pixels. RED look so crisp, espcially top right pixel!

sancho panza hahaha this made my day

Cerny Maybe it was a joke?

144p

Jon wants to do it his way and thats the overkill way

Nadie If fines were al we go we would fly 24/7 But Monaco can do whatever they want and I like to keep living here so better play it safe than sorry... getting this camera does not mean that we cant do other things. Nothing changes except we get better st using a real camera and we are stoked to shoot more! 😃

Im glad to hear that, you got the resources, and i know that you (and Markus) you guys can push it better, you can become one of the best youtube channels. If you cannot fly in Monaco do something like that in Marbella. Spain is different you know :D Greetings from Madrid!

Use the dynamic range the camera has please! I guess you will master it. Good luck! Awesome stuff!

Finally, someone that understands me. Casey inspired me to start vlogging and it upsets me when people blow money on expensive cameras for no reason. Ok you'll have better quality, but that doesn't make it creative. I spent $500 on my equipment and I make pretty awesome vlogs.

Kenneth Nguyen yees, de komplementer hinanden så godt!👍🏻👍🏻

lol

Since you own a red, I'm surprised you say you commend his dedication. I do not own one and have never operated cameras on any level higher than dslrs, but it would be my understanding that this camera would be too much a hindrance with bulk/workflow/color grading/worry about damage/theft/swapping redmags to actually expect much usability? I'm surprised you would even be able to admire what I would think would be just.... sort of stupid? Misguided? Dumb?

I admire people who push the envelope and get out of their comfort zone to achieve more. As for vlogging with a RED I personally couldn't think of a worse camera, I see that as short term only, storytelling is far more important than the gear you use. At least they will learn a lot in a short time, while others have their REDs sitting on the shelf 98 percent of the time.

get out of their comfort zone to achieve more of what? More sore arms? More wasted time in post trying to fix bad raw material? Jon and his friend seem like sweet people, but the only way this video would make sense is if it was some kind of satire.. This is silly on par with eating steak with a fork and a Masamune samurai sword.

@@martinskanal The vlog looks so good though

Ultra Panavision 70mm.

too damn heavy man

nah man arri alexa

MGMaestro I'm in love with the ARRI Alexa Mini. That is my dream camera.

***** go look at her by spike jonze, ik its shot on alexa but the footage looks between the 2 camera is almost the same

Exactly a pioneer in the vloging industry.

what does it positively change to shoot in 8k?? just because everyone is comparing how much K´s their cameras have!! Like comparing their dicks!! most VLOGS are super boring anyway! and by the way most people don´t even have 4k TV at home so what do we need 8k VLOGS of people doing nothing more than talking about their camera;D

How is he pushing it on a good way? A very expensive camera most can't afford is the same as Casey giving very relevant career advice? Or using his knowledge of filmmaking to tell a good story every day in a very creative way with a basic DSLR? Not that i disagree I just would like to hear your justification for an 8k camera used to shoot films meant to be projected on huge screens is pushing vlogging...when 1% can afford to use the camera to vlog to begin with. To me it's a mark of conspicuous consumption in the context of a vlog and sets the wrong impression. Happy for him to have that cam...but this video title makes me cringe.

Mark Holtze Thank you for writing this comment! Totally agree with you.

You made quite a few great points yourself mate.

no get off here with those incorrect facts, you are just making up assumptions kid, they just dont know how to handle the footage properly, let alone even use the camera

Daniel Rodriguez very true! This is why Casey inspired me to start making vlogs. If you want check out my videos let me know what you think. Cameras can be so expensive but you don't need to be all fancy equipment to produce beautiful content

You got it! Finally.

Daniel Rodriguez well he has money so why not by one and Casey and Jon aren't the same person. He can be different

Jon has talked about this earlier, they get a RED cause they love camera gear, its not about "buying" yourself good content, and they know this.

Just because it's not done in Casey Neistat's way, it doesn't mean they do the wrong thing. Casey is a great vlogger but every people have their own vision of what they want to do. Casey's way is not the only right way.

Totally agree. Straight into a full Daily Vlog is probably not the ideal way to have time to learn a camera! haha ,-)

Who cares, you guys will figure it out. No better way of doing it then DOING IT. Hopefully you got insurance on that bad boy. If so, lets mount it to a drone and take it to the next level in the air :) Not ideal for daily stuff but it would be a fun project.

I wish we had insurance! haha I think Inspire 2 will have to do for now! ;-)

Not sure what's available in Europe but I'm paying about $500/year to insure all the Leica stuff I have which is about $35K worth. Covers accidental damage as well as theft. I highly recommend it! Its called a personal article policy. Nice decision on the Inspire 2, that will do just fine.

*QUESTION: Can't you talk about why you're not considering a Panamera 4 E-Hybrid. It has four doors and surely must have a lot lower CO2-emissions than a FF or any Rolls. And why not also talk about why you're not considering a Tesla Models S.*

That was way too loud! :D

No lmao fucking $200 mic with that expensive stupid setup.. with such a camera they need to fuckong record audio separately... but thet probably requires too much work in their opinion lmao wtf are you doing with that camera then -.-

ResQ they're just having fun, if they can afford it why not? No need to be mad about it.

ResQ, external recorders are fucking stupid, knowing how stupid these dudes are they will probably forget to record 1+ times a day haha

its 4k sound baby! ;)

jöötäjä seriously....... my laptop handles 4k 60fps no lag or what so ever

North Korean bleach i didn't say anything about lag... i think everything should be 8k 60fps at least :D and most modern laptops handle 4k no problem

jöötäjä I had mine for like 3 years, i only refurbished it by Lenovo last month

oh sorry...I ment to reply to the comment under this one... which talked about a new pc not handling 1080p sorry lol

I'm a noob ,just trying to understand cameras, but is 8k equivalent to 33,2 megapixels?

he was there since day 1

avartar12345 of this channel no

avartar12345 Jon vlogged way before Marcus came along.

Jesus Nava you cannot really call those videos vlogs, can you?

Griffin Kerwin does it have explosion stickers and dead character stickers all over it?

mkbhd

nooo he just a stock one

And micheal bay got it from red and is also customly made jon just has other colors

Lauwergames yes but the color way. It only comes in black and limited white ones. But Bay has a bright custom green one and now his camo one

That's because it is

Olivia Bermudez because it is a cine grade camera

Oh

Olivia Bermudez it IS a movie camera. Many Hollywood films are shot on REDs

Bananas and Bass that sounds expensive

We decided to try the primes first and see how that felt. Agree that Zooms could be smarter but have yet to find one that we really like. The Sigma art 18-35 seems to be very popular so might have to check that out. As stated, this was day 1 and we have a ton of things to learn and test! ;-)

I have a Sigma 18-35 lens on my Canon, and its really great! You just have to buy the dock with it as well as it seems to need some calibration prior to using it properly.

Jon Olsson I have used the sigma art since summer and i only have good things to say about it. Razor sharp.

Sigma recently released cine version of the 18-35. it's identical optically speaking but 100% manual --> no dock. I think this is the version you need to get if you want to mount it on a red. I ave been using the 18-35 Art for 3 years now, 24/7 on my camera, I love it! The very good thing is it's almost parfocal with very little breathing.

ThreeSixteen Films I kind of agree but id say that Romanatwood

romanatwood is fucking boring

Romans pranks are better then his vlogs.....lets just leave it there :)

Трансформатор and Дневник Хача are better.

Jon and Markus are the best :)

1kSubswithoutvideos check out my channel man! I always shot with GoPro

So true

what were the hints?

They showed one of the lenses yesterday.

bigpotpoker1 1) IG-post with hashtags #8K and #MichaelBay 2) When I asked when they will announce the RED-Camera on YT he responded: What red camera? ;) 3) When they were in Miami for their "secret" trip, they gave back the Leica's in the Leica store and I think that that's where they picked up the camera, RED has a store there :)

And if you google around for a moment you can find pretty clear "hints" like this :) www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?150052-Epic-W-lens-options

24 and 120, same as always!

Anton Lagerlöf nothing is lagging though, it's smooth and crispy af

It's not the video, is your internet connection / PC. Streaming 4K takes a decent size pipe and a decent PC. Working sweet here on my 60MB fibre.

i have 100/100 and watch a lot of other 4k video. not the problem

for me it's smooth in 4k

Torsten Sigulsson yeah i thought about it too

No but about 150 vlogs ago he only pressed it once and complained about people pressing several times...

Yeah door pressing thing was cringy af. You guys should find your own thing not copy other vloggers :/

SirCrocodile162 this whole vlog is cringe and planned

Leica Epic W 8K are you kidding me? It is a RED. Confirms again most people watching this have no clue about any of this gear. Really nice setup but I think it is not the ideal setup for the videos they do... the leica was the best middleground great auto focus good low light and beautiful colors

Woops my bad, of course its a Red. No need to feel offended tho ;) I do have a clue about this gear and I'm very interested in cameras in general. It was just a little typing error

even the leica is not worth its money in my opinion. yes, colours are great, but since they correct them anyways it makes no difference at all. in the end.

THANK GOD SOMEONE THAT HAS THE SAME VIEW AS ME ON ALL OF THIS.. *thanks man*

ThomasDrijusl14 I wasn't really talking about you, more about the people who liked your comment ;) Also when I read comments like "so much dynamic range to crop in post" "I now feel like watching a movie" It makes me unreasonable angry haha

haha LOVE IT! ;-)

alexiskurt It's the first day they're using it... Give it at couple of weeks.

Yeah i know :) im just saying they should look at other people's video so they can probably learn

in a couple of weeks you can learn the button layout of the camera, and get to understand how it kinda works, but handling of such footage can not be learnt in a couple of weeks time -.-

chunthebear getting an A7S II for lowlight and the normal walkaround stuff. Then use the RED for momnets when it really shines... A combo will be the vest solusion! 😃

Jon Olsson What will happen to the two Leica? U guys are some rich bastards 😂

"Not good in lowlight" What are you on? The bigger the sensor the more light it lets in.

ZOMG Cinema cam (like the Red) is not great in low light because it's usually used in a well lit environment. It's for professional use. Sensor size of most cinema cams is Super 35mm anyways, about the size of APSC

Mihajlo D no but iso was not right. They still learning

That's called KZfaq compression

ISO noise has absolutely nothing to do with YT compression.

its either artificial film grain, or the compression algorithm. I think the Leica was better overall for what they are doing.

George Argyrousis I agree Leica was better, image was so crisp and vibrant, this and iPhone not big difference in my eyes

Ascot Christie 4k screens

Ascot Christie was thinking the same, a lot of people watch vlogs from a tablet or phone, i see no different and am watching from an amoled screen tablet, saw someone vlog with a Canon EOS80D and it looked higher quality!, must be loads cheaper too...4k is still niche..

RED is a film camera. Everything is manual. A red like theirs, with the basic attachments, would require 2-3 people to operate, one of them being a focus puller. that's the main reason it looks a bit grainy in some areas. . . ISO is also another culprit but over time though, markus should get used to it. Some RED rigs used in Hollywood could require upwards of 6 people to operate. . . hence why these guys truly are TEAM OVERKILL.

Kenneth Mwiti so in other words you're saying using a camera like this for daily vlogging is about as useful as a chocolate teapot😂

Rob Sevilla just about 😂😂 it will improve their vlog quality over time but they'll definitely not be utilizing the max potential of the RED

for about 80k

Creepa know what..... it should be( now)

ugghhh

Super dark in the garage, ISO 3200 so a bit surprised on the noise... Guess we will have to mount an A7S on the top of the RED for low light stuff... ;-)

Jon Olsson thanks for the reply! Oh, I didn't expect the ISO that high... Looking forward to that awesome looking A7S mount :D just kidding. But what I'm really looking forward to, is the mega super overkill content & quality that will come! Have a good one, guys :)

You should concider noise reduction pluging like neat video.

Hi Jon Olsson You are meant to light for reds as they don't do that well in low light, they are designed for perfect lighting, not sure if the RED guys kept quite on that one or not, its just not designed for run and gun. The C300 MKii would have been a better choice as it is very very good in low light and has internal NDs so you can keep shooting at 1/50th of a second shutter speed in bright conditions without having to carry around a matt box and external NDS. Its a cinema/Doco camera which means you don't need a massive crew and lights to get good images as often. The downside is limited frame rates, but if that were a concern the Sony FS7 has pretty decent frame rates and gives the c300 MKii a run for its money in everything but skin tones. You should look into it, the workflow will be much better for what you are doing and no one will notice the difference in the end. You also won't need 10 million hard drives to store 8K files that no one will be able to watch for the next 10 years anyway. Also tell Markus to learn how to use scopes if he hasn't already. The waveform monitor can tell you if you are losing detail in the highlights or the shadows. I noticed quite a bit of over exposure which is often easily avoided using a waveform monitor to aid in exposure decisions. Hope that helps, Ps. I'm just jealous I don't have a RED for making films with.

monkeyXmonkey In 2020

Nina Culo Oh em gee.

monkeyXmonkey in 8kkk

20,000k do you mean kelvin? ;)

Nicholas Stael von Holstein the frame rate is natural but it looks kinda "choppy" maybe because of high Shutter speed (or lower shutter speed ) shutter speed = frame rate x2

It's the first day they used it... forgive them

I think a variable ND could help a lot

No Marcus says it feels better than ever! haha

its more than 100.000€

Pxl_ Blackz over 100k wich the lenses + batteries

With*

52,710 $ for the 3 lenses (www.abelcine.com/store/Leica-Summicron/) + the RED camera, about 30,000 $ (www.red.com/products/epicw-8k) Holy shit yes !!

I would imagine he's working with Red, and getting a fair price for using it on his KZfaq channel.

it probably is. good cameras aren't designed for low light conditions, as i understand it.

When you use a cinema camera.. you typically have time to light it.. its made for production

Josh Flori Good cameras are made for low light. They have absolutely massive sensors and are made to pick up detail in both the shadows and the highlights in perfect detail. There's a good chance that, at the time of filming, Jon and his crew didn't know much about picture settings like ISO and such. Cinema cameras perform very well in low light if you know how to properly adjust camera settings and edit in post.

He probably didn’t open the aperture. I garuntee you a red dragon or helium will destroy a mirrorless in low light

premiere will always struggle on Mac. most macs are unpowered. try learning final cut pro to take advantage of your hardware.

Oh really, had no idea. It's just about the money for it :) should get hired by a company that pays my license haha

Marcus Lindblad he down resd it to 4k

He uses an old MBP and Adobe but RED has a nice fileformat which makes it easy. And Applefanboys take a seat Finalcut does not support 8k yet but Premiere does.

0xDr0id ok cool yeah my friend told me RED is easier to edit. PC and Mac is as good in different takes so let's not start a debate on which one's the best :) I'm still on Premiere, love it. Started with Premiere on my PC and I think it works well with my MBP.