Our Shop 2nd Gen Cummins with Carli Suspension Commuter System and 37s!

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CJC Off Road

CJC Off Road

2 жыл бұрын

Our shop 1999 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins 2nd gen came to us in pretty decent shape, but we've never ones to leave something alone! These trucks have notoriously bad ride and steering, so we went to work upgrading everything on the truck to make it ride and drive like it should! With the help of a Carli Suspension 3" Commuter system, Thuren sway bar, Synergy Steering, and a fresh wheel/tire setup we're now comfortable taking this truck on road trips and actually getting out to use it!
#CarliSuspension #2ndgencummins #cjcoffroad

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@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
What’s on this truck: Carli Commuter system: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/94-02-carli-systems/products/carli-dodge-ram-1994-2002-2500-3500-commuter-2-0-suspension-system Carli control arms: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/carli-dodge-suspension-components/products/copy-of-carli-suspension-dodge-ram-2500-3500-control-arms Carli rear add a pack leaf springs: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/carli-dodge-suspension-components/products/carli-dodge-ram-2500-3500-5-leaf-progressive-spring-pack Thuren sway bar: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/1994-2002-thuren-ram-2500/products/active-rate-sway-bar-ram-2500-1998-5-2002 Synergy HD Steering: www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/steering-linkage DT Pro Fab Track Bar: www.cjcoffroad.com/products/dt-pro-fab-dodge-ram-2500-3500-track-bar-kit-1994-2002-0-4-lift?_pos=1&_sid=b80e21284&_ss=r
@Wormed101
@Wormed101 Жыл бұрын
What gear ratio do you have on this truck? I just got some 37s and I'm still running the 3.55 gear ratio with 35s. I want to change the gear ratio before I install the 37s. Just wondering if you have 4.10 or 4.56. And what gear ratio you recommend if I plan on towing a toy hauler with this setup. Thank you!
@amolinari9
@amolinari9 2 жыл бұрын
37s on oldschool 2 door trucks looks so good. They look like 40s or bigger on a new 4 door. The 5 speed with the 5.9L Cummins 🤤
@chudrustler
@chudrustler 2 жыл бұрын
Finally some second gens!!! Cant wait to see what next.
@gsascott5996
@gsascott5996 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. It seems to me that a build of this level deserves long arms.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
You'd be amazed how well a proper short arm system rides on these trucks! With this setup, we don't have to weld the frame to mount arms.
@donhyatt8034
@donhyatt8034 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot...I just got my Carli commuter 3.25" kit for my 2014 Ram 3500...now I want to set up my 1996 Dodge 2500 with the same. I am the original owner and have a 4wheel popup camper on it to help with the ride. 380,000 miles and still runs strong...I can't seem to let it go, which makes my wife crazy but use it on my own for those trips to the coast :)
@17madracki17
@17madracki17 2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how much more I want to move after seeing that truck. Trucks don't look that good 6 months off the lot here in Ontario Canada. Love it !!!!! Thanks for sharing.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
it's amazing how well preserved trucks from dry climates are! The frame on this one looks brand new!
@louisbrown4620
@louisbrown4620 2 жыл бұрын
That’s one amazing looking 20 year old truck.
@jokerswild4541
@jokerswild4541 2 жыл бұрын
Great job to the team at CJC
@PepeDeezNutz
@PepeDeezNutz 2 жыл бұрын
That dash carpet sets it off! So sick!
@mr.nobody4349
@mr.nobody4349 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat this truck. These Gen 2s look like they are looking for a fight with this set up. Well done!
@philmertz243
@philmertz243 2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome find! That thing looks cherry!
@ThatCarGuy_Mike
@ThatCarGuy_Mike 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Audio seemed really rough. Just figured I’d mention. But can’t wait to see more on this truck. I love that you guys showed some of the work being done to truck. Please show more shop footage.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
That's the downside of filming in a working shop environment sadly! We'll do our best to include more working footage moving forward since it seems like people enjoy seeing it!
@spevakdesigns
@spevakdesigns 10 ай бұрын
I picked up a very stock 02 5spd 4x4 reg cab cummins recently and have started looking into suspension and steering upgrades as it's a bit rough without weight in the bed. I primarily drive bumpy windy roads at 20-35mph and need to find a package that handles that well when empty and with a full load. Your video was really helpful in learning about what to replace going forward. I'll be sure to check out the website when I get closer to buying parts for it.
@DSGSLOWDOWNS
@DSGSLOWDOWNS 2 жыл бұрын
Such a clean build man
@idahobuckaroo8348
@idahobuckaroo8348 Жыл бұрын
Nice truck. 👍. I have 1999 Ram 2500 with the Sport trim package. Same color. Very impressive.
@payloadperformance9706
@payloadperformance9706 2 жыл бұрын
i wish carli made a 5 or 6” system for our second gen rams, i want 37s to bad but on a leveling system they are a bit too stuffed. i have the carli 3” level system and love it, i’m going up to 35s soon. ask the boys over at Carli to make a 6” system and i’m sure it would sell like candy!
@Booneboarder
@Booneboarder Жыл бұрын
I've been hoping they come out with a 5" or 6" also. I'm sure they could throw something together for us 2nd Gens. It would be nice
@payloadperformance9706
@payloadperformance9706 Жыл бұрын
@@Booneboarder there’s actually a pretty high demand for it, im in a few 2nd gen groups on FB with probably around 250k combined members and a pretty substantial amount of them would want a 5-6” suspension system. i’m going to make a poll to see if maybe i can convince the boys over at carli to make something for us
@Booneboarder
@Booneboarder Жыл бұрын
@@payloadperformance9706 WOW! I'm not on any of social media, but it's nice to know so many of us want a higher kit made. I might have to shot them an email. Good luck with the poll and hope they knock one out for us.
@korn111685
@korn111685 2 жыл бұрын
About time some 2nd gen love… I have a 2001 sport in Amber fire pearl, 6 speed 4x4.
@jeffreyyeater1780
@jeffreyyeater1780 Жыл бұрын
Very nice build .
@jasonhill6074
@jasonhill6074 Жыл бұрын
Absolute beauty...
@fizoust2
@fizoust2 Жыл бұрын
Cool truck!
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 2 жыл бұрын
Awwwww, she's a manual 🥰
@marcusholtzheimer9316
@marcusholtzheimer9316 4 ай бұрын
This is probably the perfect second gen I’d love to have that suspension on mine
@garyosborn3168
@garyosborn3168 2 жыл бұрын
Be a bad ass truck for chasing tornados
@lillynips2674
@lillynips2674 2 жыл бұрын
I daily mine with this kit, flipped shackles in the rear and now sway bars, cushy
@phendrix9476
@phendrix9476 2 жыл бұрын
That truck is beautiful. I feel waay better about all the money I’ve thrown at my 2nd Gen now. Haha! I’m likely to go the pin top route after seeing truck prices go up and up. Thanks for a great video.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
At this point you have an appreciating asset!
@jeffreyyeater1780
@jeffreyyeater1780 Жыл бұрын
Yep . Worth more every day
@leomadrigal9196
@leomadrigal9196 2 жыл бұрын
Sick build, I literally put the same exact set up on my 2nd gen dually, just waiting on my 2” spacers for the rear wheels to finally have it complete & add a pack leaf springs. It’s also a night day ride difference, wouldn’t go with any other set up if anyone has one of these trucks.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
That's what we love to hear!
@ChaosViper67
@ChaosViper67 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get the 37's? I would be very interested in seeing photos or a video as I don't really see 2nd gen duallys with 37's.
@everydaygearhead
@everydaygearhead 2 жыл бұрын
Looking great! I'm about to start the first wave of big time suspension mods on my quad cab swapped 12 valve, so this is timely. 👍
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
It's money well spent on these trucks!
@everydaygearhead
@everydaygearhead 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad I can't wait! Are you guys gonna have EMF joints on sale for Black Friday?
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
@@everydaygearhead We will!
@everydaygearhead
@everydaygearhead 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad Excellent! Expect an order!
@keegan809
@keegan809 8 ай бұрын
We need to see how these builds perform off-road
@four-turns
@four-turns 2 жыл бұрын
I need to find a way to offset the axle breather for carli long travel bags that interfere with my 2nd gen I do have that lift leaf pack from you guys as well but just the bags is my only prob
@michaelsmigelski7123
@michaelsmigelski7123 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely need more of the 2nd gen videos these trucks don't get enough attention and they hardly ever get a quality suspension system very nice truck
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
It's true! We wanted to show a great, cost effective option for them!
@michaelsmigelski7123
@michaelsmigelski7123 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the process of tearimg my truck down to the frame and when it goes together you will definitely be getting a phone call absolutely no expense spared when I'm done
@jasonlovell3934
@jasonlovell3934 2 жыл бұрын
Great looking truck! I would look at a disc brake swap for the rear next.
@phendrix9476
@phendrix9476 2 жыл бұрын
If you o that route; l recommend swapping for an OEM disc brake axle as opposed to the weak expensive kits (that pretty much eliminate the e-brake) offered. My ‘01 QCLB drums have plenty of power IMHO
@countryheathen1834
@countryheathen1834 8 ай бұрын
have a second gen ram 1500 that im looking to beef up the front end making it good for off road in the mountains and pulling cars back on to the road in the winter months. will this set up be good for a 1500 or just the 2500
@ryancarroll8086
@ryancarroll8086 2 жыл бұрын
This is sick, now sell it to me!
@chudrustler
@chudrustler 2 жыл бұрын
Finally
@brandona325
@brandona325 2 жыл бұрын
And I was literally wishing for a video of this truck after talking with one of your reps earlier Planning on the dominator myself with bags
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
You'll enjoy the next phase of this build then!
@brandona325
@brandona325 2 жыл бұрын
I hope so Also have to hunt down an nv5600 swap and a bare block for other reasons
@sinkorswim777
@sinkorswim777 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! If ever you decide you want to sell it make me your first call!
@johnnybrown6992
@johnnybrown6992 4 ай бұрын
Keep checking to see if there’s gonna be anymore videos of the truck???
@imtheplayerandthecoach2409
@imtheplayerandthecoach2409 2 жыл бұрын
What track bar are you running on truck?
@grissom.
@grissom. 2 жыл бұрын
Love these kinds of videos of the older trucks 🙌. Why don’t you guys have a kit for 99-06 gm trucks?
@brandona325
@brandona325 2 жыл бұрын
Carli and thuren are pretty focused on solid axle trucks which excludes any GM made in the last 29 years
@jasonmckesson4995
@jasonmckesson4995 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Just curious which amp research kit you went with to fit on the truck. Thanks! And thank you for the great content
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
This is the third gen step kit, with adapter brackets to work on the 2nd gens!
@timothycarter418
@timothycarter418 2 жыл бұрын
My 95 on stock suspension and stock tires is in need of some upgrades
@SHL-ge3wn
@SHL-ge3wn 2 жыл бұрын
I was able to use 37" BFG Mud Terrains on my 1999 2500 24V without hitting the fenders by just putting on a set of leveling springs in the front end and using the factory 17x 8 Aluminum rims. I ran it that way for years...
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
We only claim fitment if the truck can bottom out and cycle the steering lock to lock! BFGs run quite a but under the stated size so their 37s will get by for basic driving, but won't fully cycle at full compression without some fender work.
@SHL-ge3wn
@SHL-ge3wn 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad I had noticed that the only rubbing was on my control arm when I turned the wheel lock to lock. My solution in 2003 was to make my own upper and lower control arms, I made them out of 1-1/2 x 3" box steel. Basically I made them zig-zag for lack of a better term, or actually zig-zag-zig...LOL. Years later I saw Core Offroad and others do what I did, I just had 10+ years on them. Somewhere I have time stamped photo's of my control arms. Now I see a few different companies doing the same thing. I ran those home made control arms for about 150,000 miles. I had plasma cut my towers where the factory shock ran through and made my own shock towers. I wound up using King Offroad dampners and their 800 lb springs. The truck sat level in the front. No rubs, no contact anywhere.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you were at this before all the off road stuff was cool! Thankfully now you can just go out and buy some ready to bolt in arms!
@SHL-ge3wn
@SHL-ge3wn 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad I agree 100%. The aftermarket stuff has improved 1000% in the last ten years! It's amazing to see what was some rather exotic race tech back in the early 2000's trickle down to us guys in our back yards! Keep up the good work!
@DTXGee
@DTXGee 2 жыл бұрын
congrats on the nice find! how many miles on the rig, looks really clean.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
just turned over 150k!
@tylerspurgeon6475
@tylerspurgeon6475 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on a video for the long bed mega you guys did!
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly that customer was on a short timeline, so we didn't get time to film it!
@bigmurph68
@bigmurph68 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about those Amp steps and they were mounted. Also I went with Thurne springs on the front of my truck but i have the 2nd gen drivers side lean. My OCD is killing me and probably going to install an 1" spacer to get it level
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Just install some rear leaf spring shims to get it level! Here's a link to the AMP step brackets for 2nd gens: www.tycaindustries.com/amp-step-conversion-kit/ampkit
@cmorse723
@cmorse723 2 жыл бұрын
You guys starting to get 37” Nittos coming in? I’m going on month 5 of backorder.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Availability is awful, so we're ordering tires months in advance for installs. Even then, many customers are having to switch around tires at the last minute. We've been holding onto these tires for about a year to put on this truck!
@danielvaldez5093
@danielvaldez5093 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the Carli leafs for my 01 2500 from you guys, is there anyway you guys can tell me the measurement from the hub to the bed? Just curious how much lift you get from these springs.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
It's going to vary greatly from truck to truck since most 2nd gen leaf spring have de-arched over the years. On a new 2nd gen you would have seen about 2" of rear lift with the Carli springs.
@dixiemae5042
@dixiemae5042 Жыл бұрын
what aftermarket headlights do you have and how do you like them? you running leds or halogens?
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad Жыл бұрын
These are actually just the normal factory sport headlights with Sylvania bulbs.
@jdhollingsworth9407
@jdhollingsworth9407 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video! I have 2Gen only owner. Who in Phoenix would you recommend for a similar build? Not against bringing rig out to SoCal Cheers JD
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't mind, shoot us an email to sales@cjcoffroad.com and we can send you a list of our partner installers near you.
@Brian.8272
@Brian.8272 Жыл бұрын
please do a carli lift on a 80s square body chevy
@dixiemae5042
@dixiemae5042 Жыл бұрын
what other modifications were needed to run 37's?
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad Жыл бұрын
The suspension and fender modifications mentioned in the video!
@halwebb4616
@halwebb4616 2 жыл бұрын
What track bar was on the truck? Been thinking about upgrading mine.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
We recomend DT Pro Fab for these 2nd gens! www.cjcoffroad.com/products/dt-pro-fab-dodge-ram-2500-3500-track-bar-kit-1994-2002-0-4-lift?_pos=2&_sid=94973ba25&_ss=r
@joshr398
@joshr398 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned this truck is a 5spd. Did you/are you going to re gear? Assuming this 2500 came with 3.55s. My 97 5spd with 3.55s has 35s and is at the limit of being able to start in 2nd gear.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
We're going to drive it for a bit like this and then make a decision on gears!
@phendrix9476
@phendrix9476 2 жыл бұрын
My ‘01 QCLB 2500 5spd W/35’s came stock with 4.10’s and 2nd gear starts are definitely the way to go. HTH Definitely invest in high end ball joints and add a free wheel kit if you’re serious about keeping the truck I’d think
@carlk6398
@carlk6398 Жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad Have you considered gears yet? If so, what ratio(s)? I’m on 37’s and 3.54 as well. Not too bad, but hard to keep EGTs in check on long grades, usually slow down and shift to 4th. Torn between 4.10 and 4.30s. Leaning toward 4.30 for 40s in near future or slightly higher RPMs if I go back down to 37s. Would appreciate your input!
@snowking171
@snowking171 Жыл бұрын
Were the stock shackles used when switched to the full progressive leaf packs?
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad Жыл бұрын
Yes they are re-used with both the Carli full pack and add a pack.
@snowking171
@snowking171 Жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad what size lift springs were used?
@hugogarcia7240
@hugogarcia7240 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2nd gen 12 valve longbed will this exact setup be the same
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! Bed length doesn't change the suspension!
@justinkroeker1464
@justinkroeker1464 2 жыл бұрын
What is that tool bolted to the hub at 2:46?? I’ve been a mechanic a long time and I don’t know what it is
@jackkrinkov9273
@jackkrinkov9273 2 жыл бұрын
Probably to measure the toe in
@justinkroeker1464
@justinkroeker1464 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackkrinkov9273 I bet your right… now I need some lol
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
We use that to measure toe for our alignments! We have a notch for stock tires, 35s and 37s.
@winstonnoirot1340
@winstonnoirot1340 2 жыл бұрын
Could you retrofit a Carli suspension for a first gen Cummins?
@jackkrinkov9273
@jackkrinkov9273 2 жыл бұрын
No. First gen 4wd Dodges have leaf spring front suspension.
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
We recommend reaching out to Deaver Springs to build some custom front and rear leaf springs, and then doing a nice shock setup. That's a HUGE improvement in ride on those trucks!
@julians.8685
@julians.8685 2 жыл бұрын
I wish my 2nd gen was rust free and not a salvaged title. (60% of the wiring has been dead ended or spliced together)
@kevinperez659
@kevinperez659 Жыл бұрын
What would I need to do to my 2nd gen Cummins 4x4 to run 35s with out rubbing lock to lock
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad Жыл бұрын
All you need is a basic Carli system with a track bar and control arms, along with a wheel that's no wider than 9" and has about 0 offset. @justdiesels truck is a perfect example!
@kevinperez659
@kevinperez659 Жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad we’ll it’s funny you say that because those are the wheels I’m looking to get but a very hard to come by
@jesuscardenas9075
@jesuscardenas9075 2 жыл бұрын
Do you guys sell that suspension set up?
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
We do! Check the pinned comment for links!
@riflecountry
@riflecountry 2 жыл бұрын
Which front bumper is that?
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Factory sport!
@christopherdick8675
@christopherdick8675 2 жыл бұрын
Holy man that truck is mint must of paid 40g for that bad boy?
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
A whopping 15k from the original owner! Not a bad deal at all!
@christopherdick8675
@christopherdick8675 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJCOffRoad holy man you almost stole her!
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
The owner was a great guy. We send him update photos all the time and he's always happy to see the truck getting a whole new lease on life!
@jeffreyyeater1780
@jeffreyyeater1780 Жыл бұрын
Did he feal violated ! Did you at least take him to dinner ?
@Advertisement41
@Advertisement41 2 жыл бұрын
What is the name of those wheels again?
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Robbie Gordons!
@darkstar6611
@darkstar6611 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know if you ever what to sell that truck
@justinwilson3742
@justinwilson3742 2 жыл бұрын
Could you put a link the the parts?
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
Our bad! Check the pinned comment!
@Bmxr1991
@Bmxr1991 2 жыл бұрын
What’s under that dash mat lol
@CJCOffRoad
@CJCOffRoad 2 жыл бұрын
A nice OEM dash, which is why we have a dash mat!
@Victorbanda1234
@Victorbanda1234 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice.Until Brandon gets ahold of it.
@AC-hq7ce
@AC-hq7ce 2 жыл бұрын
I would’ve left it stock personally. I think it looked better. The 37’s looked to big from a side profile but looked too then from the back.
@payloadperformance9706
@payloadperformance9706 2 жыл бұрын
35s would be perfect with that commuter system. if they made a 5” system that would be ideal for 37s not too tall not too short and it would give even more wheel travel but unfortunately i don’t think they will ever make that type of set up for our second gen trucks
@hassaanawan9606
@hassaanawan9606 11 ай бұрын
this and the 3rd gen are identical copies of just diesel 2nd and 3rd gen
@emilyscandycakes4530
@emilyscandycakes4530 2 жыл бұрын
Needs gears
@ickyiceful
@ickyiceful Жыл бұрын
You waisted your money buying a manual transmission truck the dodge manual transmissions are worst then the automatic as far as durability you could have bought a stock automatic much much cheaper and installed the zf6 witch is ten million times stronger and smoother shorter throw just all around much better
@ickyiceful
@ickyiceful Жыл бұрын
I know the kits around 5k loaded up with all the goodies but that’s all you need minus a transmission unit and some gear oil no soldering or splicing wires plug and play true bolt on other then a minor hole that needs to be cut witch bye the way my 13 year old helped me do so that’s how easy it is
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