It’s a shame that Warner Bros. never got behind their own projects. Everytime a bad review came out they focused on appeasing them verses actually supporting their films. Warner Bros. killed the DCEU through self sabotage

I want Henry Cavill to return so so badly! He is so perfect as Superman, much like RDJ as Iron Man and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine! ❤

I love your answer to fixing the DC universe. Why is it that people who are fans understand these characters better than people who have the power to make these movies. It's still about money and just throwing things at the wall and see what sticks we need people who really love these characters and understand them, and are willing to do what is right to tell a good story to bring all the fandom together in one happy unit.

In my opinion, everything you suggested in this video makes complete sense. Old DCEU and new merging to make one cohesive set of stories would be perfect, everyone wins. And 100% of the fans supporting all DC instead of factions at war with each other makes for some nice box office returns. Well played sir.

I would have Superman acting as a mentor to Billy at some point, Superman/Shazam Return of Black Adam was really good and could have worked as a model. As far as the wider universe, I'm with you. It should've continued and been built apon. It felt like there was some exciting momentum coming out of Black Adam with Waller talking her shit, Superman showing up, and Teth Adam working with the Justice Society. It really felt like something was big happening, plus Darkseid was looming in the background.... what could've been.

This is LITERALLY what I've been telling folks I spoke to about the downfall of the DCEU. Aquaman made a billion dollars! People were still willing to show up. The old regime prioritized B/C list characters, instead of continuing the lead with their JL heroes.

If only WB let Snyder make his movies w/o interference we could’ve had a great DCEU, universe with great actors. BvS Ultimate Edition, ZSJL, Black Adam, The Flash (and I still say there’s an Ayercut) if they all came out as the original release date the DCEU would be strong but instead ppl scapegoated Snyder. I read that BvS/ BvS UE was meant to be a MoS2 then a solo Batman movie but WB shoehorned the trinity & a famous Superman comic that was meant as a build up, not a sequel. And someone on a FB page pointed out a JL movie would’ve came out later down the road, which makes sense.

The fault of the failure of the DCEU is the WB suits. They shoehorned BvS /BvS UE into having the trinity & one of the most famous comics of all time, Death of Superman, which needs a build up.

I think one cool idea I would implement in this hypothetical scenario is, aside from the official dcu movies, keep an annual or bi-annual competition among fan projects, and then based on some kind of selection (by a dc community wide poll / special audience judge / or directly decided by the heads at DC) one of the pitched/presented projects would be selected for an official funding by the studios to be made into a proper movie (either animated or live action). This will foster creativity and engagement at a totally different level among fandom and with word of mouth based on how these initially go, the good will from people will spread to general audience as well. Not rushing too many DCU projects in a year will give quality content to audience, and on top of that fan films will be an addition as well, thus giving people more content in terms of quantity without compromising on quality. Idk what are the flaws in an actual implementation of this idea, but seeing that this can work to benefit both - movie watchers & movie makers, I think the downsides can be addressed to achieve a win-win!

BVS was considered a “box office failure” because of the WB executives. BVS was originally slated to be released in mid-July 2015… until Kevin Feige announced on the fly for D23 that Captain America’s third solo film is Civil War. Warner Bros. overreacted by pushing back the release date to March 25, 2016, meaning more money was poured into marketing to keep their audiences hooked (thus the $150M marketing budget). However Marvel in turn reacted by announcing Captain America: Civil War would be released May 6, 2016, which contributed to BVS’ 68% box office drop in the second weekend - especially after the abysmal theatrical cut we got thanks to WB’s interference.

See I like that idea of erasing josstice league and WW84 and bringing the Ayer cut into the fold

Dude, you'd be a way better DC head than the one we got. Honestly.

Sounds like a very good plan and makes a lot of sense but sadly it seems WB has little of that when it comes to DC.

It would have been SIMPLE Step #1 - Let Snyder make Justice League 2 and 3. Announce that the only films "Canon" to that Saga are MOS, BVS, Ayer SS, Wonder Woman, ZSJL 1 2 and 3 Step #2 - Plan the launch of a new universe, one which can potentially incorporate the films like Shazam, Blue Beetle, etc

We don't even know if James Gunn's DCU is gonna be any good. Everyone is telling us to move on and embrace Gunn's DC plan and calling us toxic Snyder cultist for preferring Snyder's DC plan.

One big thing I’d add to this is Green Lantern, I think one of the biggest problems with the DCEU was that it didn’t even try with the Lanterns, all we had was that random one in the flashback for both versions of Justice League that died and from there they planned (more like debated on it probably) on Green Lantern Corps but that kept getting pushed back and Snyder planned to have Hal in Justice League 3 but that obviously hasn’t been able to happen so far and all of that sucks when Green Lantern has the potential to be one of the best parts of a DC Cinematic Universe, DC literally has their own Star Wars in front of them on a silver platter and have refused to properly use it clearly because of the 2011 movie so I’d have Green Lantern as one of the top priorities with two options on how to use it, one:Green Lantern Corps movies, instead of a show for Guy Gardner and Alan Scott (the latter isn’t even part of the Corps 🤦🏻‍♂️), a movie series where the first would focus on Hal and John Stewart, the second would bring in Guy, and the third Kyle Rayner while Hal is also a member of the League in those movies. Two: movies for Hal, show for the others, I think Super Frame came up with a really great idea for the Lanterns with 6 movies focusing on Hal with each one building up to Blackest Night with a show focusing on the other three going on so the movies don’t have to take focus away from Hal and his journey so I’d EASILY prefer something like that (and honestly at this point really just that whole universe pitch) Ok another thing would also be getting rid of Ezra Miller and Amber Heard, especially get rid of Miller as the Flash at this point, get Grant Gustin back, satisfy people with Lucas Till, I don’t care just literally anybody except someone like him (and no I don’t care if he goes by they/them if you’re gonna act like how he does then I do not give a crap what your preference is)

This pretty much sums up with what I’ve been saying about the DCEU for years. Thank you for that.

Will you please run DC??? Damn man, this is perfect!

I love your plan for the dceu it’s really awesome and just feels like a organic way to get this universe back on track which makes me so happy and I would really love to see man of steel 2 be a adaptation of Superman rebirth with Clark and Lois raising their son Jonathan Samuel Kent Superboy as his little 10 year old self would be really awesome and badass at least in my opinion.

#HireOurMovieNewsGuyForDCU

They could've just made a Justice League 2 which would be a sequel of the Snyder Cut and that movie would also be 4 hours long where we would see the complete story of Darkseid vs Justice League. First 2 hours will be Darkseid winning and the second 2 hours will be the Justice League regrouping and defeat Darkseid after restoring everything. And after that movie, WB could've rebooted the DC universe if they were so hellbent on doing it.

I would go with both DCEU and DCU to create a crisis event at some point after the Darkseid War. So both Snyder and Gunn could make the fans happy.

ZSJL 2 & 3 sound like the end of a cinematic universe tbh Also love how you use the “ reset “ for this universe, and not just as a lazy way to clean up the mess 8:16 Literally perfect summary

Perfect solution!!! Is there ANY way we can get this video in front of David Zazlav?? I am NOT kidding because what you laid out would absolutely work as long as they write good stories for these characters.

Im still so sad we have lost henry cavil's superman

It's generally crazy how good all this sounds. Man Hollywood doesn't know what the hell they are doing.

Really good a plan I wish James could thought that way... or in my opinion if he's rebooting, then reboot all of it .... He could recast some actors in the same role without their old back story being canon ( like what Marvel is planning with Daredevil) and also new actors can be cast in new role... Also Gunn could announce the reboot news towards end of this year...with THE FLASH being the last movie to release ...and other movies like SHAZAM , AQUAMAN could have small alteration (like SHAZAM's permanent death) with post credit scene teasing a dark path for DCEU and in THE FLASH everything would reset may be avoiding that future or not......

All of us are not getting younger, when exactly are we going to get a Justice League Franchise like The Avengers? When we're in our 60's?

The thing DC is missing is momentum. They threw all the hype away that is why they are failing. Just do one scene where Barry is watching a retelling of the JL story, like a play, a show but then he tells himself that stakes were higher in reality, then shows flashbacks of ZSJL scenes and how they almost died. They could make multiple films between Darkseid's invation and build that up. There is no need for reboot just commitment and Gunn just threw is away. But let's just see the new dc

Could I go to a universe where you're in charge of DC Studios?

This is genius. I really wish WB/DC would take this into consideration.

Your plan makes perfect sense because it is devoid of ego Something that no one at WB or DC seems to be able to get out of their own way of

Man, what a breakdown. They really need to hire you for real! That would definitely get me back to watching DC.

Hat's off for your work bro

As a Cobra Kai Fan, I can say with relative ease that Blue Beetle was a great & fantastic movie/film, but I agree that the DCEU still needs a lot of fixing to do. I get that it's dope to do something parallel to their rival-company Marvel, but DC went too far by overthinking that it wouldn't stand a chance of keeping up with the Marvel Cinematic Universe, when *rushing* is actually exactly what causes DC to lose against Marvel by a mile. The proper way for DCEU to compete with the MCU, is for DC to focus on doing it's own thing, rather than worrying too much about Marvel taking advantage of DC, when rushing DC movies/films just increases that specific situation even more, and even then: it's not like Marvel is trying to replace DC in anyway, so why should DC dwell on that competition? DC should just focus way more on DC and much less on Marvel in order to write good story-arcs for each Superheroes of the Justice League members! Thank you for sharing how the DCEU can be fixed!

wow it's like you scooped the rotten eggs off the top of a pile of hot trash

Yes!! mama Lois & Papa Clark!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Muy buen plan. Saludos desde Perú. Even from here we Arent excited for whatever Gunn has planned. We want Cavill's Superman.

Yes, ever fanbase was upset with Gunn' announcement that you say further divided the fanbase. if you want to call one particular group who will never be happy unless they hear only one thing a group that is further divided. Oh wait they have no intention on being united

Agreed. I've been telling them on Twitter, all they had to do was build on the Snyderverse. They could add some of the Gunn plans to it if necessary. They didn't have to reboot anything. DC fans are REALLY tired of reboots.

I hope you know with your universe Ben affleck wouldn’t be Batman any more because he’s done with the character, Ezra miller would have to be out , amber heard is in the way, lex Luther is trash, wb won’t let ray fisher work for them again. Zaslav would probably fire you if you tried to restore what they felt didn’t work before. I feel a complete restart is the best so I even disagree with James Gunn bringing any characters from the old universe back.

This is a great plan! I think it could work. I hate to say it because I want to see it, but the only thing I would move on from is the Ayer cut to avoid even more confusion. If it is released, I would hope it wouldn't change any outcome so much.

And bring back Henry Cavill to continue on as Superman.

I love this idea ! #restorethesnyderverse

G'day it's Steven from Down Under Sounds like a plan, let's do it!

Those ideas for the DCEU are fantastic! I guarantee that if implemented that approach would create excitement and the DCEU would take off like never before. As it is I predict that the new reboot will create about as much excitement as Gunn's Suicide Squad (which lost as much money as WW 1984.)

Nice proposal, I guess that's how it could have worked out without the ego of James Gunn wanting to keep only his own stuff.

They should have just brought the existing universe to a proper conclusion and then rebooted

While I will miss Henry Cavill, I would much rather have a more traditional Superman, Aquaman, Flash, etc. I would also LOVE to see Martian Manhunter on the Justice League roster. The interpretations of these characters we got in the DCEU are definitely not what I'm looking for. Snyder also wasted some the greatest storylines DC has. While I wouldn't mind keeping some of the actors, I definitely would not want to keep the continuity of the DCEU.

This sounds amazing! I would back it 100% I'd even start going back to the theater again if your plan was DC's plan.

Thank you.

Great way to give DC the Infinity Saga treatment.

Well thought out. I agree this would be great idea.

This is a terrific retelling. Absolutely freakin’ terrific!! Not only does it set things up for the future storyline, but it honors everything that came before!!! Pay attention #WBD!! This is how you do the job!!

I think the the gist of this video is spot on as the best way to fix this mess. I think fans mostly thought this was going to happen too. The backlash isn’t necessarily “things need to be Snyder’s style”. It’s more of “we’ve supported this interpretation of the DCEU and we want to see this succeed”. It doesn’t need to be erased.. it needs to have some vision. You can’t build a DCEU and have no Batman or Superman since the 3rd movie and no Green Lantern in 12 movies other than a flashback. You can’t expect people to keep interest when the big charters they’ve loved aren’t even being featured.

In my opinion there’s too much baggage with DC currently with the old DCEU (not calling it the Snyderverse go to hell) and the new DCU (again not calling it the Gunnverse) from complicated and messed up timeline and mischaracterization of the characters and the generic look DC has doubled down on, and the actors that can’t stop getting into trouble, and some wrong castings too. DC has had moderate successes with filmmaker driven projects like The Batman and Joker. I would like to continue that trend with more filmmaker driven projects in the DC Universe but still connected under one over arching story. Also in this DCU I would only focus on film and TV Gunn idea of integrating animation and gaming with the main continuity of the films and shows is a terrible idea. I’m keeping them separate. Here’s my hypothetical idea, 100% reboot, recast everybody no exceptions. Start over from the Flash restarting the timeline and it creates a new Earth for the DCU. Calling it Rebirth. Here’s my hypothetical slate for this new DCU Prologue: Rebirth 1. Superman Earthbound 2. Wonder Woman Godsend 3. Batman Gotham Siege 4. Blue Beetle 5. Green Lanterns Wrath of the Manhunters 6. The New Gods 7. Green Lantern Corps. (TV show) Chapter 1: Gods Among Us 1. DC’s The Trinity 2. The Flash First Run 3. The Titans 4. ICON 5. John Constantine (TV Show limited series) 6. Zatanna 7. Green Lanterns Rage of the Red Lanterns 8. New Gods Tragedy of the Forever People 9. Martian Manhunter 10. The Justice League 11. Green Lantern Corp. Season 2 Chapter 2: Monsters 1. Swamp Thing 2. Titans Judas Contract 3. Batman Outlawed 4. Superman Elite 5. Wonder Woman Godfall 6. Green Lanterns Rise of the Sinestro Corps 7. Justice League Dark 8. Dr. Fate and the Lords of Chaos 9. New Gods War of New Genesis 10. Justice League Bable Chapter 3: War and Crisis 1. The Flash Rogue War 2. Aquaman Trident of Atlantis 3. Titans: Young Justice 4. Task Force X (TV Show) 5. Darkseid War Part 1 6. Dark side War Part 2 7. Green Lanterns Blackest Night 8. Justice League Cataclysm 9. Crisis on Infinite Earths part 1 10. Crisis on Infinite Earths part 2 11. Final Crisis 12. Green Lantern Corps. Season 3 Chapter 4: Kingdom Come 1. Superman Last Son 2. Batman Battle for the Cowl 3. Wonder Woman Mortal 4. Green Lanterns Reborn 5. New Gods Reign 6. Justice League Justice for All 7. Green Lantern Corps. Final Season 8. Kingdom Come

That was cool. Good job!

This definitely is a great idea , should be seen by james gunn and peter safran.

For real now, I do feel the dc fans are very confused including me. With Gunn picking up and choosing some of the older members but rebooting the rest makes this very confusing to me, because like you I would rather see the whole thing rebooted or use the flash movie to reset everything and recast the original JL members at best!

This is a perfect analysis 👌🏾🔥I strongly agree

Yep I'd have much preferred your DCU over what we are getting although I am still interested in what Gunn can do, just bumbed not to get the snyderverse. The main things I wanted to see was - Batfleck vs Deathstroke. Cyborg movie. Teen Titans. Blue Beetle. Booster gold. Justice society of America. JL vs Mongal. Young justice movie. And of course Snyders JL 2 and 3

Shazam is when the audience of the dceu

Perfectly done!!!

This is all I wanted them to do. Thank you

You should do a full video going in depth in each project! I’d watch that!

Fully agree you hit it spot on. It would be epic.

So if Superman’s son was actually born in this timeline, what would that mean for the Justice League sequels? Also, are you still doing your rebuilding the DCEU series, because I want to see more of what projects you would propose.

Tyrone Magnus sent me and I agree completely agree with everything. I like how you got Henry Cavil going to get Johnathan Kent and can easily transfer to Superman & Lois on the CWTV. I mean keep the continuity.

Your ideas are perfect

MoS, BvS Ultimate Edition, Ayercut, WW, SS2, ZSJL, Aquaman, Shazam, Black Adam, Shazam2, Peacemaker. Other IMO suck. Birds of Prey, WW84 (that’s all I can think of 😅🤷🏽‍♂️)

Mind blown 🤯 Please, somebody sign this man. That is all I wanted James Gunn to do. It’s not that I don’t think James Gunn would do a terrible job, to be honest, he has. I wish he just acknowledged the fact that WB messed this up, and this is the way to go about it. But the way they did this has kill everything.

You really should make a video series where you talk more in-depth about your plans for this universe. I know we'd like to hear about them

This is the way I would have fixed the DCEU looking back in hindsight. 1. Man of Steel (2013) - Released as normal. 2. Solo Batman movie (2016) - Released instead of BVS, as Ben Affleck’s Batman was the best part of the movie. 3. Wonderwoman (2017) - Released as normal 4. BVS: Dawn of Justice (2018) - Now that we have 3 solo movies that have provided all of the intros and set ups, we can have a first team up movie that doesn’t need to be 3 hours long. 5. Aquaman (2019) 6: Flash (2019) 7: Justice league movie (2020) - Now we have established the universe and most characters, this doesn’t need to be 4 hours long, and this could be the first introduction into Cyborgs story.

What about Green Lantern?

I think this would be the best option at this point they should’ve done a full reboot when they had the chance

If you make the air cut cat in your racing James Gunn Suicide Squad movie. And if you're racing James Gunn Suicide Squad movie that you can't really have peacemakers season 2 or season one can into the universe cuz it wouldn't make sense. To your plan is just what James Gunn did he literally said that he's integrating smaller characters with the main characters in having them interact with each other. So what he's doing is perfect

What is everyone’s favorite Snyderverse movie??? I have a hard time choosing between BvS extended cut and ZSJL

Very logical and I concur👏🏿👏🏿. Good show!

I like Ezra as Flash. I like the JL suit. It’s like if Flash existed in the real world. Like Nolan’s Batman trilogy. A fabric suit would be almost crazy if his character isn’t developed, I say Flash needs 2 solo movies & 1.5 (gets destroyed) team up movies before a futuristic type upgrade from his future self, then does a Flashpoint. I’m torn abt the movie, bc Keaton is back as Batman & I want to see how they do that but I want to see Negan (Thomas in BvS) as Batman & them going with the Snyderverse. I also feel like everything with Ezra, some things are being played up bc to some ppl or one person if he’s doing all these crazy things whose gonna double check if someone lied? I feel like after all the stuff Joss did during the reshoots/rewrites & the same with the Flash movie, it broke him, making him a victim of WB/Joss too

All valid points. This earned the subscribe.

I agree With this guy this story is so good it could actually work no reboot!! The flash movie can actually be used in a smart way to reset things in stead of a big reboot

Good idea but taking someone else vision Snyder vision and using it as your won’t get the full potential. Gunn has to use his style of story telling. They should brought back Snyder let him finish and then give them the DCU Studio.

You have a well thought out and a desirable DCEU plan over James Gunn. I especially like the idea of taking what was already established and going forward with it. 2 things to add to your "how to fix" is to create a Man of Steel 10yr Anniversary event (June 2023) to honor where it all started and Superman. Then with the release of MoS 2, or JL 2, or whatever Superman impacted film or project, have said film(s) release on the year 2028, the 90th Anniversary of Superman. Also, as head of DCEU, hype up the 90th anniversary of Superman with a big event...maybe a DC Fandome event. Then do the same thing on the following year, 2029, the 90th Anniversary of the Batman.

Imagine a solo Henry Cavill Superman Trilogy like The Dark Knight. No build up to Justice League or a cinematic universe, just Superman and his mythos. Reintroducing him to the modern audience. It would be beautiful.

It's so interesting that 6:57, even though this is pure simulation, I literally got goose bumps at the pitch for Man of Steel II....my goodness how powerful of move that would be for the universe.

If I'm in charge, I would include the Arrowverse too..Green Arrow..Supergirl..Legends of Tomorrow..Doom Patrol, Teen Titans (but with much better feature- Beast Boy, Raven and Starfire plus Cyborg really resembling their comic counterparts)..cast Green Lantern Corps as it is now currently but with Hal Jordan has his history as Parallax..

I like the way you think, if only you had a chance to talk to WB executives maybe a change can happen.

Rebooting DC wasn't necessary. All they had to do were two things. Firstly, adhere to the tone that Zack Snyder established with Man of Steel. One of the reasons why I love DC more than Marvel is the darker tone, which Snyder captured perfectly, but Warner Bros think that it needs to be light hearted and funny, therefore making it feel tonally inconsistent. Secondly, focus on Snyder's Justice League trilogy plan. Since Aquaman, DC has lacked direction and consistency, they need to focus on characters that are part of the Snyderverse and make films for them; so Man of Steel 2, Wonder Woman 3, Ben Affleck's Batman, Cyborg, Batgirl, Supergirl, Green Lantern, Deathstroke, Black Manta, New God's, and finally Justice League 2 and 3. Oh, and whilst you're at it, release the f*cking Ayer Cut

The issue with that plan is that you can only really blame the Pandemic affecting James Gunn's Suicide Squad the rest came out before and had time to be successful but they weren't. On top of that the movies continued to go down in reviews and at the box office after Man of Steel, I think it is a mix of the DC Heads' eagerness to catch up with the MCU and rapidly build a universe instead of giving the characters time to grow and shine on their own and develop them and Snyder's desire to just be different from the MCU without really caring about the characters he was building. I think that the only way to be successful moving forward is a full reboot. But it is an interesting idea and I wonder if it would eventually work out if they stuck with the Snyderverse but I don't know.

That was GENIUS

I think your plan is best among all that I have heard

We'll find out soon what's going to happen at Snydercon. Is this a goodbye from Snyder to DC or is something being cooked up in the shadows?

Totally agree with your approach. Just makes much more sense to me. I was hopeful the new regime would go in a similar direction when they took over, but... Alas!

The only thing that will make this all better is if they didn't remove any actors for the dcu, most people like the actors for the heroes, like Henry Cavill, people are not gonna like the Superman movie if it's not Henry Cavill and the movie won't get enough money since no one really liked it, it's like with Marvel, you change the actor, then no one's gonna like it and they won't get enough money, they're gonna realize it soon, I just hope they change their minds. :(

I would rehire Snyder as the main director & Gunn as another director, came out with a statement saying the directors cuts were how the movies were originally supposed to come out as in 2016 (BvS Ultimate Edition) & ZSJL (2017) , the old WB regimes botched the movies bc they were greedy & it gave the already fat cats bonuses.

I agree with your idea of how you would do the DCEU /DCU

yea man Gunn aint coming here to find the reason. so there is no way we can stop the reboot

3:48 like when Barry met The CW FLASH during CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS

Zaslav still has time to redeem himself and unite the fractured DC fanbase. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse #ReleaseTheAyerCut

Original Timeline: WW 1, WW84, Man of Steel, Theater Cut of BvS and Suicide Squad, Whedon Cut, Aquaman, Shazam, BOP, TSS, PM, Black Adam(Original end-credits), Shazam 2, and The Flash New Timeline: WW 1, Man of Steel, Ultimate Cut of BvS and Ayer's Suicide Squad, Snyder Cut, Aquaman, Shazam, BOP, TSS, Peace Maker, Black Adam(With Shazam post credit scene), Shazam 2, Affleck's Batman movie, Shazam 3, Blue Beatle, and many more.

Great idea