The Downfall of The DCEU | A DC Documentary

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4 ай бұрын

The DC Extended Universe. What was once seen as a potential rival to the massively successful Marvel Cinematic Universe, is now being abandoned after 16 movies and 1 show spanning a 10 year life time. Movies in general, have to earn 2 and a half times their budget to break even. The DCEU’s box office has been erratic to say the least, so throughout this documentary you will see some movies easily earn a profit and others failing to break even. This documentary highlights the 8 key moments of the DCEU. So join me today on this journey as we explore the downfall of the DCEU.
Sources:
SDCC 2013 BvS Announcement Video: • Batman v Superman SDCC...
DCEU box office: www.the-numbers.com/movies/fr...
Chris Terrio on BvS: screenrant.com/batman-v-super...
Wonder Woman 1 Reshoots: theplaylist.net/patty-jenkins...
Justice League reshoots cost: www.buzzfeed.com/noradominick...
WB Execs Wanting Snyder FIRED: batman-news.com/2017/11/29/ju...
WB CEO Stepping down: www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/...
Aquaman Reshoots: www.cinemablend.com/news/2404...
Snyder Cut fundraiser: www.gofundme.com/f/releasethe...
JL Cast tweets: www.latimes.com/entertainment...
Full Snyder Cut timeline: www.latimes.com/entertainment...
Fisher reacts to Hamada leaving: gamerant.com/ray-fisher-walte...
Snyder Cut 4th Most streamed movie: variety.com/2022/ awards/awards/zack-snyder-justice-league-oscars-fan-favorite-1235193141/
Ann Sarnoff calls SnyderVerse a trilogy: variety.com/2021/film/news/za...
HBOMAX Subs 2019 - 2022: www.statista.com/statistics/5...
Migu Video Snyder Cut 250M views: www.small-screen.co.uk/snyder...
WBD sued for HBOMAX numbers: www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-d...
Business Insider: www.businessinsider.com/hbo-m...
Chris McQuarrie interview: comicbook.com/dc/news/mission...
Abdy & De Luca like Cavill: www.cbr.com/man-of-steel-2-in....
Hamada Crisis Infinite Earths: view.email.hollywoodreporter....
The Flash 3 Endings: movieweb.com/the-flash-breaki....
Ezra Miller issues: www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/ez....
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@calebmcguire8934
@calebmcguire8934 4 ай бұрын
It doesn’t matter if you’re a Gunn or Snyder fan I think we can all agree that WB sucks and they fucked up. They fumbled the bag hard.
@tomgiddens2963
@tomgiddens2963 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. You're right with that remark.
@guillaumeparola
@guillaumeparola 4 ай бұрын
One of WB's worst loss was Chris Nolan leaving the studio... What a joke.
@joiedevie3901
@joiedevie3901 4 ай бұрын
It's like they wanted to fail . . .
@OB.x
@OB.x 4 ай бұрын
Really sad what happened to him. I wonder how the DCEU would be if he got to finish his entire vision
@NimN0ms
@NimN0ms 4 ай бұрын
If they really wanted to copy Marvel, they should have gone all out and put someone at the helm who cared about the stories rather than just making money.
@shadowofdread7018
@shadowofdread7018 4 ай бұрын
I genuinely feel so bad for Henry Cavill. The guy seems like a genuine, wholesome person who is passionate about his roles and gives everything he has into them. Yet shady studio executives keep screwing him over because they don’t know what they’re doing. First Superman, then Geralt from the Witcher. Two roles Henry absolutely loved and had to leave behind because of corporate scum
@lamasizzy0599
@lamasizzy0599 4 ай бұрын
Have you ever stopped to think that maybe Henry is the problem? Not saying he is but when multiple studios have problems with you then…?
@fumo1317
@fumo1317 4 ай бұрын
This happens all the time to ordinary people every day
@shadowofdread7018
@shadowofdread7018 4 ай бұрын
@@lamasizzy0599 No, because DC was proven to be a Warner Bros executive wanting Cavill out to replace him with Supergirl as shown in this video. Henry left The Witcher because they were butchering the source material and refused to listen to him. So he was treated unfairly and fired by one studio, and willingly left the other. This was not because he’s “toxic”. Most actors who’ve worked with him says he’s nothing but a great man who’s passionate about his work
@kryptonian69
@kryptonian69 4 ай бұрын
@@lamasizzy0599 its cuz he wants to make content that's accurate to the source material unlike the executives who want to ruin everything
@lamasizzy0599
@lamasizzy0599 4 ай бұрын
@@shadowofdread7018 The Witcher has been a big hit for Netflix. It’s a smart idea to not replicate the source material exactly. See: Marvel, Mario movie, Uncharted, etc etc.
@bobbymcpuffles0837
@bobbymcpuffles0837 4 ай бұрын
The rock hyping up Superman vs Black Adam is still the funniest thing that happened in this universe
@StephonLove208
@StephonLove208 Ай бұрын
He was really hyping up a post credit scene before the movie even came out and since the movie was failing WB started putting the scene in tv spots💀
@robinnadjiZ
@robinnadjiZ Ай бұрын
Why is it funny that would’ve been dope.
@phabiorules
@phabiorules Ай бұрын
@@robinnadjiZIt was funny because of how big of a deal they thought black Adam was going to be. Black Adam is a Shazam villain, and the rock thought he was too good for Shazam, so they tried to put him on equal level to Superman.
@heelturnsface
@heelturnsface Ай бұрын
The Rock politicking the DCEU like Hulk Hogan did to WWE was insane.
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 Ай бұрын
@@phabiorules not sure about that. the Rock wanted to be in the DCEU since MoS came out. that was a 10year gap, or so. his movie was ok. very cheesy in some areas though. the post credits scene was the one he was hyped about. and WB kicked Henry Cavill out after that. bunch of losers. let's be honest here: Dwayne Johnson is a good action movie actor. and super hero genre promises lots of action. so he was perfect for the role. especially a not-so-evil Black Adam. more of an Anti-hero. but the script kinda sucked. not sure how much at fault he is in all that.
@Spellbound_93
@Spellbound_93 4 ай бұрын
As a huge fan of these characters and DC content outside the DCEU, this is a heart breaking story. So much potential ruined by greed and poor planning.
@mudiametokunboh2370
@mudiametokunboh2370 3 ай бұрын
Fr dc studios looking good new dc I mean right now
@lisawang3566
@lisawang3566 Ай бұрын
Heart-breaking indeed
@Nutbag517
@Nutbag517 4 ай бұрын
The Wonder Woman ending always puzzled me. It was such a breath of fresh air when Diana defeated the guy she thought was Ares and expected all the the bad guys to stop, but they didn't, and Steve telling her that sometimes bad people are just bad. It's like the studio went "Nah, screw the theme of the movie. People want a big, ugly cgi monster that contradicts the lesson the hero just learned. Brilliant!"
@boboboy8189
@boboboy8189 4 ай бұрын
The original climax according to patty jenkins is she never fought ares. After the General luddendorf died, Steve go to stop the airplane and he died and thats it. The ending is more confusing because how come she suddenly want to help others when Steve is the one connection him to this world..... Its also contradict snyderverse where she supposed to not appeared until BvS event happened
@Nutbag517
@Nutbag517 4 ай бұрын
@@boboboy8189 I don't see the contradiction.
@lifeoftoast1864
@lifeoftoast1864 4 ай бұрын
That's exactly right. Steve literally says that sometimes people just suck and this isn't a god's fault, it's our fault. Then Aries dies and all the soldiers start hugging and I was like........ WTF IS THE MESSAGE OF THIS MOVIE? Also the ending makes no sense in a few contexts of the overall direction of the Snyderverse. She doesn't walk away from mankind AT ALL! So WTF is with her behavior in Metropolis when Doomsday arrives? And not to mention where was this bitch during WW2 and all the other wars if she loves mankind in the end and empowered by love; jumping to action in London at the sound of sirens?
@Nutbag517
@Nutbag517 4 ай бұрын
@@lifeoftoast1864 Yeah. I could understand her walking away from humanity, as we were told in JL, if they kept the original ending. It makes sense why she would shut herself off after Steve dies. But no, it was all the evil God and everyone was actually good the whole time. So stupid.
@power279
@power279 4 ай бұрын
​@@Nutbag517WB bro .what do u expect 😂
@SammyWarmHands
@SammyWarmHands 4 ай бұрын
Well done! As a DC fan, it’s been infuriating to watch WB self-sabotage these films over and over again
@jeevar4281
@jeevar4281 4 ай бұрын
DC sabotaged Dawn of justice justice league and the first suicide squad
@freman007
@freman007 4 ай бұрын
@@jeevar4281 By hiring Zack Snyder in the first place.
@jeevar4281
@jeevar4281 4 ай бұрын
@@freman007 he did screw up Batman and superman
@qkomodo9098
@qkomodo9098 3 ай бұрын
And not just their films, but their media, in general. I still feel fucked over, after the whole multiversus situation
@MarvinPowell1
@MarvinPowell1 3 ай бұрын
I really do wish people would stop acting like Snyder had nothing to do with this. He still made every movie before Justice League. And even his own version of Justice League sucked; it was just longer and filled with unnecessary garbage like women singing on the beach to Aquaman. And he also made Rebel Moon completely on his own too and that show fails at basic storytelling. Zack Snyder SUCKS and people need to snap out of their denial and fanboyism towards the guy.
@fisher3317
@fisher3317 2 ай бұрын
The DCEU failed because it came from a place of desperation rather than inspiration. Marvel studios earned its cinematic universe because it took years to build it up piece by piece with standalone films introducing the major characters before bringing them together in the first big crossover (The Avengers). DC/WB didn't have the patience to carry that out, and were more interested in catching up to their competitor as quickly as possible. To quote a comment I once read, "going from Man of Steel to Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice is like going from Iron Man 1 directly into Captain America: Civil War." The final result was a cinematic universe that didn't feel as fleshed out or coherent as its competitor, especially with reactionary moves like trying to abandon Snyder's darker and more brooding tone in favor of emulating Marvel's lightheartedness. The biggest lesson to be learned in this is to walk before you can run.
@trevoromondi1663
@trevoromondi1663 4 ай бұрын
The one I feel pity for the most is Henry. I absolutely loved him as superman like he was to superman what Robert Downey junior was to Iron man. You couldnt picture anyone else playing those roles than them.
@FrostFireTiger
@FrostFireTiger 3 ай бұрын
Although I'm not a fan of the movies he ended up in, I gotta say that his portrayal of Superman was great. He was an excellent choice for the role. Anyways, I'm happy to see his future endeavors like the Warhammer movie and Highlander. He'll likely excel in those as well.
@johnotto-wl2yh
@johnotto-wl2yh 3 күн бұрын
He was aiight.
@alejandroangel998
@alejandroangel998 4 ай бұрын
Quoting from the Green Goblin in NWH: “Strong enough to have it all. Too weak to take it.” This summarizes WB, they had something great at their grasp but didn’t know how to manage it. Great work with the documentary 🎉
@abps9947
@abps9947 4 ай бұрын
Yeah right Also Snyder fandom toxicity and his dark vision DC is not darker And marvel is not light Both have dark and light 😊
@ceasarsaran8573
@ceasarsaran8573 4 ай бұрын
or they meant to ruin it
@abps9947
@abps9947 4 ай бұрын
@@SlickyGamer Well yeah but it has also light themed Tomorrowverse for example
@bryanrickard7712
@bryanrickard7712 4 ай бұрын
There were several DCEU shows, not one. Swamp Thing, Power Girl and Peacemaker
@boboboy8189
@boboboy8189 4 ай бұрын
​@@abps9947tomorrowverse is childish
@EddieNgatia
@EddieNgatia 4 ай бұрын
it still hurts henry was let go in such a bad way. unforgivable. well put together video btw bro. really good
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 4 ай бұрын
F**k WB
@jamiestewart48
@jamiestewart48 4 ай бұрын
Dude got fucked over on Superman AND The Witcher. jesus!
@ElPresidenteMargz
@ElPresidenteMargz 4 ай бұрын
@@jamiestewart48it’s interesting. My theory based on how Henry portrays himself and what we see of his down to Earth personality .. is that he doesn’t “play ball” W shitty but influential Hollywood execs, writers, etc and that has costed him. I think he doesn’t stand for bullshit but these execs have, in consequence, gotten him back by sabotaging him
@laughslapproductions4690
@laughslapproductions4690 4 ай бұрын
He still made 500k for 2 cameos, one of which wasn’t even released
@limlaith
@limlaith 4 ай бұрын
It continues to be baffling and galling how he was treated _twice._ He handled everything with grace and good will and has only risen in my estimation. I have never cared for DC products/films, don't care about Batman or Superman or WW, etc, but Cavill made me a fan of _*his*._ His integrity as a person is what will bring me along to watch his movies and TV shows.
@elijahdoesstuff4600
@elijahdoesstuff4600 4 ай бұрын
They tried to recreate the success of the MCU without acknowledging what made the MCU successful. Instead of creating a clear and concise plan for the first few years of storytelling, they rushed into things. And when that didn't work, they just decided to do the cinematic equivalent of throwing feces at the wall to see what stuck. And what makes it even more embarrassing is that the DCEU started with one studio owning the rights to the entire DC catalog, yet couldn't come close to measuring up to the success of the MCU, which for most of its run so far had the rights to less than half of their characters.
@Astartes-6969
@Astartes-6969 3 ай бұрын
They should've gotten the guys behind the DCAU, Batman the Animated Show, and Superman The Animated Show. Tim & the rest of those guys actually understand & care about the DC Characters.
@A1stardan
@A1stardan 2 ай бұрын
THIS
@lightdarksoul2097
@lightdarksoul2097 Ай бұрын
So long as bruce Tim keeps Batgirl away from Batman romantically
@kiiiirbzzz
@kiiiirbzzz 4 ай бұрын
Amazing breakdown. What WB did was disgusting and i will never forgive them for their treatment of their actors and directors
@user-fm3xr9yz3i
@user-fm3xr9yz3i 4 ай бұрын
Same, I wont support them going forward. DOA.
@EdWedgie
@EdWedgie 4 ай бұрын
Horrible corporate greed at its finest
@NoNo-xd7rq
@NoNo-xd7rq 4 ай бұрын
agreed, what they did to so many talented story tellers, with zero business sense. WB would rather keep us all dumb, rather than actually make a profit.
@theamberheardplaylist6768
@theamberheardplaylist6768 4 ай бұрын
-Johnny Depp PERSECUTES Amber Heard’s fans come and see!
@gabrielmusic21
@gabrielmusic21 4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@SaleemFrazer
@SaleemFrazer 4 ай бұрын
Speaking as someone who was not a fan of this franchise as a whole, it’s interesting to know the behind the scenes story of how terribly misguided some of the major executive-creative heads were. I’ll always be curious to know what the DCEU would’ve been like (for better or worst), if there was less panicky and desperate decisions being made by the execs and instead allowing the filmmakers to have a bit more creative control.
@FutureOverYou
@FutureOverYou 4 ай бұрын
​@@zogwort1522how do you feel about James Gunn handling things going forward?
@Everan614
@Everan614 4 ай бұрын
@@zogwort1522 Arguments with insults to people are completely hollow.
@pedrotrindade6883
@pedrotrindade6883 4 ай бұрын
I think the best decision that WB has made was to judt rebbot the franchise right now... they will gane and advantage over Disney/Marvel since they will eighther a) have a 4-years advantage in the next wave of Cinematic universes b) producing a-lost hero movies while marvel is stuck with ctier heros no one likes c) producing massive tonaly diferent movies from the ones the mouse coorporation order. Xtra imagine if James and the WB give the WonderWonan story to Greta Hearwig how awsome would that be...
@garrettprince9343
@garrettprince9343 3 ай бұрын
​@@Everan614why?
@TheVidgamejunkie
@TheVidgamejunkie 3 ай бұрын
@@pedrotrindade6883 Won't be too long before Marvel launches Xmen so, the clock is ticking.
@elkabong2k
@elkabong2k 4 ай бұрын
The only problem is that they took so long to pull the plug. Lois Lane having Bruce Wayne's baby? That's nearly as bad as blowing Jimmy Olsen's head off in the desert for no reason.
@lightdarksoul2097
@lightdarksoul2097 Ай бұрын
Yo the guy I saw holding a spear about to kill my boyfriend... he was kinda hot
@SebastyenPrasad
@SebastyenPrasad 29 күн бұрын
​@@lightdarksoul2097especially his batsuit
@staticghost99
@staticghost99 28 күн бұрын
except the bruce lois thing was scrapped before snyder even shot JL
@lightdarksoul2097
@lightdarksoul2097 28 күн бұрын
@@staticghost99 I don't know it seems by the synder cut he still had that idea
@tapset
@tapset 6 күн бұрын
Bruce wayne and lois having a baby? What is this fuckin Melrose Place
@mo6live
@mo6live 4 ай бұрын
The fact WB destroyed DC pisses me off
@OctoStar20
@OctoStar20 4 ай бұрын
No matter how big The Rock's ego may be, I have to give credit to him for bringing Henry back, even if it didn't go anywhere.
@lightdarksoul2097
@lightdarksoul2097 4 ай бұрын
I would give credit but if it was true that he kinda screwed Henry I'm not giving the credit
@danielavvollanum1917
@danielavvollanum1917 4 ай бұрын
The Rock is nothing but a holllow PR machine. Him talking Cavill up is nothing more than a career move.
@TheVidgamejunkie
@TheVidgamejunkie 3 ай бұрын
Him not being a Shazam villain kills all his credit.
@SariiZatsuneChan
@SariiZatsuneChan 4 ай бұрын
I will always miss Henry Cavill's Superman. He was my ideal Clark Kent since day one, and even when he had the WB executives against him, his delivery of Superman was charming, warm and full of hope every single time. Right person, wrong time I guess.
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 4 ай бұрын
In fact every single actor in the DCEU (except probably Ezra Miller) was perfectly casted. I can't imagine Wonder Woman not being Gal Gadot and Affleck's batman was also great, it was all just a massive missed opportunity to make something great
@Sandouras
@Sandouras 4 ай бұрын
He was gloomy and emo. What exactly charmed you about him?
@randallflagg3700
@randallflagg3700 4 ай бұрын
Henry Cavill was a great Superman, we were lucky to have both him and Tyler Hoechlin playing that character at the same time... Sadly now Cavill's time is over, and Hoechlin only has one season of *Superman & Lois* (season 4) left to play Clark Kent. (The "Superman & Lois" crew returns back to filming in just a week, on the 11th of January, so it shouldn't take _too_ long before the season premieres, and it should be over before 2024 ends)
@thedefinitionisthis
@thedefinitionisthis 4 ай бұрын
PHYSICALLY, he was a great Superman. But there was nothing in the way he was written or portrayed that made me think he's the embodiment of the Superman I personally know & love. He shouldn't be a conflicted guy, mulling over what he should do when it comes to being hero. He should be the shining example. Christopher Reeve and currently Tyler Hoechlin do that. Hell, he didn't even play Superman technically, but even Smallville's Tom Welling never lost sight of the fact that Clark Kent knows and sticks to his guns in terms of his moral compass. Cavill's didn't have any of that.
@SariiZatsuneChan
@SariiZatsuneChan 4 ай бұрын
@@Sandouras at least for me, that he had to work with a script that didn't understand Clark's personality and even in that situation was able to make it enjoyable, because dude's personality is more like Clark's than the script he was given, it kinda work because of Cavill, anyone else would have been awful (my opinion)
@ProfessorKenneth
@ProfessorKenneth 3 ай бұрын
Basically DC should have copied what marvel did with Thanos but with Darkseid. That's it. Could have been simple, put out single films that unite the justice league.
@deplorabledave1048
@deplorabledave1048 Ай бұрын
I am a huge fan of the DC animated series. Great plot lines. Decent animation. Great voice acting. Very adult themes. I'm working my way through over 52 films. Good stuff!!!
@pierrepaul591
@pierrepaul591 4 ай бұрын
This pisses me off even more. They listened too much to these "critics."
@Sid271
@Sid271 4 ай бұрын
Na. Wb may be the main culprit but zack snyder isn’t any less of a menace . His "vision" didn’t have the general audience appeal and were alienating to dc comics fans . The dark and serious tone for dceu wasn’t the problem but the lack of good stories and characters were. And Zack doesn’t know how to write dark serious stories with well written characters.
@aaronmiles2802
@aaronmiles2802 4 ай бұрын
@@Sid271Bingo👍🏿
@jdp117
@jdp117 4 ай бұрын
@@Sid271 Zack didn't write these movies though. David S. Goyer wrote MoS, BvS was written by Goyer and Chris Terrio, and ZSJL was written by Terrio. I agree that Zack often over indulges in cliches and perhaps overly relies on stunning visual effects to drive his movies, but to say that these films have poor stories isn't really fair when you put it into the context that they were supposed to be part of a 5 movie story that ended in a war against Darkseid with Superman leading the armies of Earth against him. Like if you read the storyboards for JL2 and 3, the story sounds really interesting and something that makes the entire 5 movie series make far more sense both thematically and contextually.
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 4 ай бұрын
​@@Sid271Sorry but Snyder is not a real storyteller. Even he say that DC is a kid crap.
@CheezeBOI69
@CheezeBOI69 4 ай бұрын
Critics weren’t the only ones. The general audience hated snyders films too. Maybe they really are bad movies😢😂 L Snyderverse got its ass kicked by peacemaker lol😅😮😮😮
@jereladjohnson
@jereladjohnson 4 ай бұрын
That BvS comicon clip was fire. I still go back and watch it from time to time.
@Knightfall182
@Knightfall182 4 ай бұрын
I knew the film would be poorly received as soon as we saw Eisenberg talk
@TheEdorizo
@TheEdorizo 4 ай бұрын
What's fire?
@power279
@power279 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheEdorizopeople was excited
@power279
@power279 4 ай бұрын
​@@Knightfall182lol..just wait till u saw beautiful boy luther in dcu😂
@praveenm5723
@praveenm5723 4 ай бұрын
I still remember my whole school was going crazy on that announcement
@immortalfrieza
@immortalfrieza 4 ай бұрын
Downfall? The DCEU never got off the ground in the first place. It had the Batman movies and maybe 2 actually good other superhero movies and the rest have been middling, at best. Something can't fall that was never flying in the first place.
@jonnovember2136
@jonnovember2136 Ай бұрын
I always found DCEU💩 very cheesy!😔 For better financial funds DCEU💩 could have gotten funding from #TDBank💳... 🌎💘💰
@tonydumont
@tonydumont 4 ай бұрын
great insight into the politics of studio execs and the hurdles of managing great characters and content under an umbrella like WB. As a longtime comic book fan who wants to see these characters grow in the 21st century I truly hope lessons were learned by those in control of them. Thank you for a wonderful documentary :)
@dancingvalkyrie
@dancingvalkyrie 4 ай бұрын
A "downfall" implies the DCEU was good at one point but it literally never was.
@user-qy6tu9ip9v
@user-qy6tu9ip9v Ай бұрын
Man of steel, bvs, and zsjl were great. The first wonderwoman was good too.
@dancingvalkyrie
@dancingvalkyrie Ай бұрын
@@user-qy6tu9ip9v No they were all garbage and you have shit taste. Let me guess, you think the star wars prequels are good?
@dancingvalkyrie
@dancingvalkyrie Ай бұрын
@@user-qy6tu9ip9v all garbage films except for wonder woman which itself is still mediocre
@user-qy6tu9ip9v
@user-qy6tu9ip9v Ай бұрын
@@dancingvalkyrie to each their own even though you are wrong.
@yashjoseph3544
@yashjoseph3544 Ай бұрын
@@user-qy6tu9ip9v Films are poorly written even if YOU don't believe it to be true.
@jayb8934
@jayb8934 4 ай бұрын
One point worth mentioning is that strangely enough, “The Flash” referenced events that only happened in the Snyder Cut of JL. I guess at that point WB had decided that it didn’t really matter what continuity they followed anyway.
@jonnovember2136
@jonnovember2136 Ай бұрын
I always found DCEU💩 very cheesy!😔 For better financial funds DCEU💩 could have gotten funding from #TDBank💳... 🌎💘💰
@FahadAyaz
@FahadAyaz Ай бұрын
What did they reference?
@jayb8934
@jayb8934 Ай бұрын
@@FahadAyaz it’s been a while since I watched The Flash or the Snyder cut, but if I’m not mistaken they referenced Barry having traveled back in time a few minutes during the final battle, which only happened in the Snyder version.
@fernandofernandez6895
@fernandofernandez6895 4 ай бұрын
:') Came to the comment section to realize everything that needed to be said had been said. Thank you for the breakdown, and for acknowledging this enough for us all to move on. what a damn shame.
@Dante02d12
@Dante02d12 3 ай бұрын
They've been so down from the very beginning, I don't know if we can call that a fall. I loved Man Of Steel, but the arguments against it back then were fairly valid: cringe writing and boring outside the fights. People blame WB, but they intervened BECAUSE of the bad reception of Snyder's movies. So there was already something wrong before the production started "tweaking" the universe. In fact, even its reason for existing led it to its doom. WB saw the success of Avengers and how much people wanted Justice League live action. So they said "it's time, NOW!" and hurried... way too much. BvS tries to introduce way too much at once: the ultimate fight of B vs S, the Justice League, Doomsday, Lex Luthor and the End of the World. Despite being two years after the FIRST movie of this extended universe. We _should_ have had a movie on Lex, a movie on Batman, a movie on Batman v Superman, a movie on Doomsday... And that's on Snyder as much as on Warner Bros. Granted though, the first movies don't suck as much as Aquaman, Wonder Woman, their sequels, The Flash...
@Slask7
@Slask7 3 ай бұрын
thank you. apparently these simple facts are being labeled as “bias” by someone who accurately managed to omit them in this “accurate” video…
@Dante02d12
@Dante02d12 2 ай бұрын
@@Slask7 On another note, I have watched the animated movie Justice League: War. It's extremely similar to the DCEU JL movie.... but is actually so good to watch! The reason? They didn't cram 10000 things into the movie. Batman fights a Parademon, it turns out to be an emissary, Darkseid tries to invade the Earth, the greatest super-heroes of the world meet to counter him, Cyborg fused with a Motherbox, it turns out to be the key to repelling the Parademons, then they officially form the Super-hero group, it's the Dawn of Justice, the end. No need for 4 hours to tell that. This is the very first movie of a timeline (the DCAMU), they actually didn't need many movies to introduce everything before a JL movie. But that's because they cleverly spread the amount of story for each movie afterwards. I've watched a few more movies of the DCAMU, and the way certain movies are focused on different groups of characters is very good!
@Slask7
@Slask7 2 ай бұрын
@@Dante02d12 DC always delivers with animation. Between tv series and movies there’s a great collection of fine adaptations, some of which represent the best stuff out of comics.
@TexYT
@TexYT 4 ай бұрын
It's good to have a final look back at all the BS the DCEU went through on the same day Netflix is releasing Snyder's new movie Rebel Moon. Good job 👌
@prathapkutty7407
@prathapkutty7407 4 ай бұрын
Hey tex I'm pleasantly surprised to see you here! When is your next video coming out?
@Kageofyoutube
@Kageofyoutube 4 ай бұрын
Lesgooo 2 of my favorite DC KZfaq talkers r here
@jackieboymc1754
@jackieboymc1754 4 ай бұрын
Also kind of coincides with release of Aquaman 2 the official ending of the universe
@SA1NT53
@SA1NT53 4 ай бұрын
Ayo Tex, where’s that Potter video? I been waitin homie
@om58499
@om58499 4 ай бұрын
It good alright show how bad of a writer he is rebel moon been the lastest
@joelsilva699
@joelsilva699 4 ай бұрын
Another thing you could have added in the beginning was where Man of Steel came from. It could be titled Origin of a New Universe “In 2008, after the Dark Knight was released in theaters, Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer were in the process of writing the Dark Knight Rises. But during that time, they were hit with a writer’s block, leaving them unable to continue working on the script. Therefore, Nolan suggested to Goyer and everyone else to take a week off. During that week David Goyer decided to come up with an idea for a Superman movie. His idea for the Superman would be that Superman arriving in the modern world would be the biggest event in human history. Afterwards, he would show Nolan who would then take the pitch to Warner Bros. Thus, a new Superman movie was greenlit, with Nolan recommending Zack Snyder as the director. Soon enough, Snyder was hired as the director for this Superman movie in 2010. He would get to work on bringing the Superman back to the big screen, with the name of the film being titled Man of Steel.
@TheRopenNetwork
@TheRopenNetwork 4 ай бұрын
Which I feel is very underrated unappreciated film.
@Knightfall182
@Knightfall182 4 ай бұрын
That's the story that they put out there. Apparently what really happened was WB was forced into making a Superman film in whatever form due to a legal battle with the Superman creator families (Siegel/Shuster) at the time.
@joshsmith6043
@joshsmith6043 4 ай бұрын
Snyder is awful. Other than 300 he's never done anything worth a piss.
@EternalGaze8
@EternalGaze8 4 ай бұрын
@@joshsmith6043I don’t get why people like his movies beside some cool shots. I’m so happy for people to finally see Zach unleashed and what he did with Rebel Moon. 😂 what a fucking joke of a movie.
@viniciusbarreto7257
@viniciusbarreto7257 2 ай бұрын
​@@TheRopenNetwork MoS is a really bad Superman adaptation and a mediocre movie.
@kingcharlie4
@kingcharlie4 4 ай бұрын
This was quite the rollercoaster of promising memories and frustrations. Great job with this video.
@bensgadgetreviews
@bensgadgetreviews 4 ай бұрын
We don't gotta keep making excuses for Snyder, man. His films were absurdly dark -- the whole damn MoS and BvS Clark kent looked like he hated life. Batman branding criminals to be killed in prison? And his idea of bruce and Lois having a baby? Cmon man. He fundamentally doesn't get the character. Studio interference messed up JL, but BvS being mediocre was all Snyder.
@jacobtuttle4311
@jacobtuttle4311 15 күн бұрын
I honestly didn't mind the darker tone I just think it was handled like it was written by an edgy high school student. If they made Superman enjoy helping people or using his powers to better mankind and being an overall nice person then I think you could make Superman having limits and failing to save everyone and willing to kill to save the lives of innocent people work. I also think his version of Batman could work if they had a film before BvS that showed how he got the point he was in BvS. I can be sold on darker versions of characters it just has to be well written. Writing was the weakest part of all his films
@TheKing-uu7jn
@TheKing-uu7jn 3 күн бұрын
The only I have for the defense of Snyder, was I actually like MoS, and he really should’ve just stuck with the intended trilogy like he intended and I think he would’ve gotten better with each installment As for the other criticisms for the other DCEU movies of his direct involvements. fair enough
@billybarnett9518
@billybarnett9518 4 ай бұрын
David Goyer said a stand alone Man Of Steel 2 was supposed to happen, but apparently Warner panicked because of the criticism of the first and that it apparently didn't hit their huge expectations of grossing a billion.
@ginichilders9619
@ginichilders9619 4 ай бұрын
What's even dumber is that even Iron Man 1 and Batman Begins didn't hit 1 billion either.
@Slask7
@Slask7 3 ай бұрын
actually WB CEO changed plans even before Man of Steel was released.
@bantuboi3131
@bantuboi3131 4 ай бұрын
Tbh, I didn't like where it was going since the ending of Man of Steel. As a fan of the comics, it just missed the mark. It wasn't really his vision as ppl claim it was. It was just Dark Knight Returns, Death of Superman, & Injustice mixed together. But it was lacking the impact those stories had. Superman's death came too early, meaning there would be no stakes in his sequels since he couldn't die again and had just faced his penultimate villain, Doomsday.
@lumberjack5035
@lumberjack5035 3 ай бұрын
I literally started crying when Henry's announcement video back started playing 😭
@ppandgg
@ppandgg 4 ай бұрын
what a sad, sad story. breaks my heart that they fumbled this hard with such a great set of characters and cast.
@chrisr4023
@chrisr4023 4 ай бұрын
Snyder's DCEU movie is like a bunch of cool video game walpapers and cinematics stiched together. Its full of metaphors and allegories but it lack soul.
@artistrahhul4244
@artistrahhul4244 4 ай бұрын
no.. it didn't lack soul.
@JohnDoe-qm8ns
@JohnDoe-qm8ns 2 ай бұрын
​@@artistrahhul4244 yes.. it lacked soul
@crazyAI3rix
@crazyAI3rix 4 ай бұрын
if only WARNER BROS did did what miles morales said "i'm gonna do my own thing " it would had worked for them, instead of copying marvel
@dominiquejones3805
@dominiquejones3805 4 ай бұрын
Right, wanting 2 rush 2 Justice League was a bad move & making it comical
@cesar6932
@cesar6932 3 ай бұрын
Great video, I'll definitely recommend it. You forgot to mention that the greatest DC threat wasn't Darksied, it was the WB Executives.
@maybetoby
@maybetoby 4 ай бұрын
Really glad you're laying all of this out like this. Panicking WB execs are the problem, and I have no reason to believe that will change for the DCU. The theatrical cut of BvS was full of plot holes. Good job, WB execs. The Ultimate Edition is such a great movie. I don't understand fans that complained about Superman's suit and theme music in Black Adam. I was just grateful he was back. You summed it up quite nicely in the end.
@aaronmiles2802
@aaronmiles2802 4 ай бұрын
The Ultimate edition is only marginally better, and too long for a theatrical cut. The premise of BvS was a poor narrative to begin with
@maybetoby
@maybetoby 4 ай бұрын
​@@aaronmiles28023 hours is too long for a theatrical cut? Lots of movies are 3 hours long now lol
@aaronmiles2802
@aaronmiles2802 4 ай бұрын
@@maybetoby Too long for what WB wanted, Snyder had to work within the constraints. WB interfered too much, but the narrative itself was trash and uninspired
@prodigalbrock
@prodigalbrock 4 ай бұрын
​@@aaronmiles2802too long for a theatrical release??? Oppenheimer, gone with the wind, the return of the king, cleolatra, ben-hur, the godfather 2, titanic, Malcolm x , endgame, the wolf of wallstreet... yeah I guess your right those very unpopular movies over 3 hrs say your right lol
@IndecisiveJR
@IndecisiveJR 4 ай бұрын
I think WB just had no faith in Zack. With the exception of Suicide Squad to my knowledge they didn't interfere with anyone else not Patty, or James Wan (at least not to the degree as with Zack) I can't see them interfering with Gunn since I'm sure they have more faith in him and WB would love to have that Guardians of the galaxy like success with their characters.
@chidieberenwadike4165
@chidieberenwadike4165 4 ай бұрын
After watching this, You probably explained the whole universe a lot better than everybody else. Good job👍🏽
@luiegiii
@luiegiii 4 ай бұрын
The dceu had some good bones but ultimately failed to stay faithful to the source material and fumbled the landing. It’s a shame when people try to be too creative instead of being faithful. The Tobey Maguire spider-man 1 & 2 movies were so good because they felt faithful to the original vision in many ways while taking some creative liberties. They focused on creating a compelling hero with a complex set of challenges and threading the needle to create an impactful narrative that continues to astound all these years later.
@danielavvollanum1917
@danielavvollanum1917 4 ай бұрын
Great video and summary. Utterly depressing and demoralizing, but well put together.
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews 4 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@sharanmanthiranaidu2499
@sharanmanthiranaidu2499 4 ай бұрын
The most honest and factual recap of what happened with the DCEU...
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@boboboy8189
@boboboy8189 4 ай бұрын
He still missing a lot of snyder interview and con. For example you can watch Man of Steel supernova con in Disney where snyder said that WB execs told him they want clark kent grew up in metropolis and he said the lore of superman is he grew up in smallville so he asked nolan to help him, nolan later purchased a land and they built kent's farm and kent's house. This is important because as far back as Man of Steel, WB already meddling. Another interview is from BvS, where snyder said he proposed superman sequel to WB execs and the movie ended with kryptonite arrived on Wayne manor, suddenly those execs eyes changed and they demand batman in the whole movie. If you bought BvS Steel book, you can see concept art of metallo. Metallo supposed to be villain and not doomsday but they changed it in pre-production because of JL where batman must recruiting JL members
@GenXSavage
@GenXSavage 3 ай бұрын
There is an underground rumor only...going around that Snyder is seeking personal funding to perhaps continue the Snyder DCEU on Netflix; continue the movie series on that platform and have WB execs far away from the projects. Perhaps a JL2 with the Darkseid angle is still alive; even a Green Lantern (John) or other legendary DC characters on a possible horizon?
@JBoxy7
@JBoxy7 3 ай бұрын
It's very biased. Studio meddling wass the main problem but not enough light is put on the poor planning. The studio wanted to rush a universe but snyder was also rushing his own movies. You cant tell me WB execs who know jack shit about comics were the ones who decided to have death of superman and dark knight returns rolled I to one movie WHILE having a completely unrelated plotline that added nothing. The problems all started from batman V superman. It was simply a bad film. Warner bros execs are idiots who panicked immediately and forced Joss Whedon to try and sweep snyder's vision under the rug. BvS being bad is Snyder's fault. The universe failing as a whole is warner bros fault.
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews 3 ай бұрын
@@JBoxy7 No no. What you want is a biased video. You want me to share your own opinion on the planning. That is an opinion, not a fact. I just shared the facts. WB hired Snyder. Fact. Snyder made a bad movie. Opinion. One is a factual statement the other is an opinion stated as a fact. This was a factual documentary, not sharing opinions on the movies themselves. That is for the audience to decide, not me.
@wibblesmcscribbles3018
@wibblesmcscribbles3018 4 ай бұрын
Nah bruh you can’t blame studio interference for shit like Killer Batman, Leto Joker, Jolly Rancher Lex, immediately killing off Jimmy Olsen and Dick Grayson, and “ancient lamentations”.
@dominiquejones3805
@dominiquejones3805 4 ай бұрын
Jimmy Olsen died?
@wibblesmcscribbles3018
@wibblesmcscribbles3018 4 ай бұрын
@@dominiquejones3805 start of BvS 💀🔫
@joiedevie3901
@joiedevie3901 4 ай бұрын
DC has been its own worst enemy in the translation of the comic books to the big screen. They let Marvel get years ahead of them; they cast different actors to play the same characters in different movies undermining any sense of continuity or connectivity by the fans; they tried too quickly to create an analogous response to the MCU not recognizing the decades of work that Marvel put into making that leap. DC had a challenge to begin with where Marvel had a tradition in its source comic book material of plots where complex heroes--not villains--were central to the stories, which also lent to cultivating real fans; DC, on the other hand, had comic stories that were much more dependent on the villains. it is why the Rogues Galleries of Batman, Superman, and the Flash are so well known compared to those of Marvel Heroes. The first question anyone asks about a DC movie is: "who's the bad guy?" That's because DC has cultivated its stories around the heroes foiling them as opposed to struggling with their own demons which Marvel is soooo good at putting its heroes through. Stan Lee left a great legacy for screenwriters to pick up. Ironically, it was the DC Animated series under Bruce Timm, where the greatest transition for DC was made. And it was a formula very similar to what worked for MCU live movies: take your time; develop the characters; develop their relationships; let conflicts be real and let some business stay unfinished. The vocal talents used in the DC animated world were brilliant as well. It is not a coincidence that the actor with the longest continuity for a DC character was Kevin Conroy's Batman. It's sad that WB never learned a thing from DC's strongest franchise to help its weakest.
@ksay7649
@ksay7649 3 ай бұрын
really well explained, thanks for the video
@braydiculous
@braydiculous 4 ай бұрын
Snyder set the DCEU up to fail with BvS and the unfaithful to the characters story, poor storytelling, etc. that he established the universe with, everything after that was a massive case of too many cooks in the kitchen.
@KeiNakagawa7
@KeiNakagawa7 4 ай бұрын
Ah, a nice stroll down Memory Lane…with good memories and difficult memories. A wonderful documentary, well done, my friend. :)
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@marcusluera89
@marcusluera89 4 ай бұрын
​@OurMovieNews you are a fucking liar. Youre coloring facts for confirmation bias.
@jonnovember2136
@jonnovember2136 Ай бұрын
​@@OurMovieNews I always found DCEU💩 very cheesy!😔 For better financial funds DCEU💩 could have gotten funding from #TDBank💳... 🌎💘💰
@johnprince3867
@johnprince3867 3 ай бұрын
They gave the rock to much power
@Alf-gm7tf
@Alf-gm7tf 3 күн бұрын
At least it flopped otherwise black Adam would be in every dc movie and wouldn’t be allowed to lose in order to not bruise the rocks ego.
@majorundeclared444
@majorundeclared444 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting this together. It’s such a great comprehensive look at greed vs creativity.
@stephendrew4683
@stephendrew4683 4 ай бұрын
It is such a crime what these people done to these movies and how much they fucked it all up, I hope they are truly ashamed and understand they have no vision and should leave the movie business before they screw up more peoples work.
@doomraven0
@doomraven0 4 ай бұрын
List of things the DCEU did right: 1. Hiring Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, Gal Gadot, and Jason Mamoa List of things they did wrong: Literally everything else. Zack Snyder is an idiot. And we know that is true because only an idiot would allow Jesse Eisenberg to do THAT for 3 hours, make Superman gloomy, and make Batman an unabashed serial killer. Brilliant documentary, beautifully made. You deserve many more subs, mate.
@ryandinesh2044
@ryandinesh2044 16 күн бұрын
Not gonna argue the lex thing, it can be perceived either way. But Superman finds his place in the world, the journey is incredibly good, he's literally battling himself at every turn, that makes him grounded and not 1 dimensional. Batman we see isn't a new batman, it's a 20year veteran who lost his robin. He is mad pissed. Towards the end of bvs he realises it, to me that's character growth. To each their own I guess
@LycanTroop3
@LycanTroop3 4 ай бұрын
I don't think there was a down fall, the dceu didn't exist for long enough. There were lots of movies but the only ones that really went anywhere were the ones after man of steel and the ones before justice league
@georgebarrett2132
@georgebarrett2132 4 ай бұрын
great compilation OMN, very informative. hoping that they did learn and we'll be seeing a rise in quality from this dcu. thank you for all your hard work and especially that which you put in bringing us this sendoff my friend.
@donavinrodriguez6288
@donavinrodriguez6288 4 ай бұрын
I can’t wait to watch this whole documentary especially when it’s narrated by Our Movie news and can we all give a all around applause 👏 for all his work hard and dedication to making a video about this think about all the research and time it took into making this type of documentary? also shout out to his passion for the dc universe.
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews 4 ай бұрын
Wow thank you so much!
@donavinrodriguez6288
@donavinrodriguez6288 4 ай бұрын
@@OurMovieNews you’re welcome you made awesome in depth video
@puichiung2959
@puichiung2959 4 ай бұрын
​@@OurMovieNews Great job! You got all the facts right.
@blacksuit779
@blacksuit779 4 ай бұрын
🇩🇪 Normalerweise hätte Warner Bros und DC solch ein Dokumentarfilm machen sollen. Our Movie News Thank You.❤❤❤
@horrorking6409
@horrorking6409 4 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better myself
@aquamich129
@aquamich129 4 ай бұрын
Solid video. Thanks. Like a house, building a franchise starts with strongs foundation which are not done in hurry and with greed. Otherwise it collapses. Rushing for a group move instead of installing characters properlly was a severe lesson for WB.
@shawnjohnson9977
@shawnjohnson9977 2 ай бұрын
This was such a well put documentary telling folks that what they know and what they dont know this was a Successful video. i was really proud to watch the whole thing.
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@chidieberenwadike4165
@chidieberenwadike4165 4 ай бұрын
Didn't I read in one article that BVS was originally Man of steel 2, and WB saw the success of the avengers and wanting to rush the justice league right in? I don't think BVS was suppose to be a part of his story arc..
@momostan1714
@momostan1714 4 ай бұрын
it supposed to be a 3part story film for Superman but WB got jealous to MCU that they made it into a shared universe.
@chidieberenwadike4165
@chidieberenwadike4165 4 ай бұрын
@@momostan1714 I'm not sure why WB was so butthurt on it in the first place, everything we could've had, but they choose to rush it. I can definitely see this in a alternate world. Also It really quite sad and annoying that people refuse to understand this.
@laurelsilberman5705
@laurelsilberman5705 4 ай бұрын
This was utterly fascinating. Makes me think of the meme where it’s Michael Fassbender/Magneto talking to Mystique (labeled DCEU)while she lays in his bed, and it’s like “show me your biggest villain” and it shows Darksied, and magneto goes, “I said your biggest villain” and it just shows the WB logo😂 “Perfection.”
@angelfilms4886
@angelfilms4886 2 ай бұрын
Lol absolute gold and accurate
@lilylovesanime17
@lilylovesanime17 3 ай бұрын
there's so much material to use from all the way back in the thirties to now it shouldn't be this hard to get the characters right 💀
@user-zi4hq2ey9o
@user-zi4hq2ey9o 3 күн бұрын
This was put together very well. Incredible content. Thank you
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews 3 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@cheekster777
@cheekster777 4 ай бұрын
This is *EPIC!* Thank you my friend.
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews 4 ай бұрын
You are SO welcome!
@DanKeatis
@DanKeatis 4 ай бұрын
It’s hard to be anything but sad when we get to the part where Henry had to publicly rescind his post about returning as Superman. It remains the reason why I have no interest in Superman Legacy or James Gunn’s DCU. But that’s just me. I’m delighted for those who are looking forward to it and I’ll try to watch it with an open mind and heart in 2025.
@ritangshubhattacharya1654
@ritangshubhattacharya1654 3 ай бұрын
Great video, I just have two points to make in addition to what has already been well discussed - 1) Revisionism makes Synder a hero, but it’s important to remember that his original work in MoS and BvS too had their share of detractors - mostly for being too dark and faithful to the comics. As a result a lot of the casual movie goers felt out of place as they didn’t understand and enjoy the comic book references. This is particularly where the MCU did very well in Phases 1 and 2, by turning obscure comic book heroes into household names by just making the films more accessible to everyone. 2) A lot of the DCEU’s diminishing returns also tallies with an overall superhero fatigue in the audience - which is why even the MCU off late has been struggling horribly. And like it or not, the ‘multiverse’ concept that both Marvel and DC have adopted seem cool in terms of fan service initially - by bringing in different iterations of popular characters on screen at the same time - but have also turned out to be horribly confusing and bloated, simply exhausting the bulk of the casual viewers. In general, people are tired of superheroes. That only makes it lamentable that WB did not fully cash in on the superhero craze when it was at its peak. Nothing Gunn does now can ever match up to the original hype going into BvS.
@Slask7
@Slask7 3 ай бұрын
uhm… snyder’s films weren’t criticized because “too dark” and “too faithful to comics”. Audiences don’t have problems with dark films, as Nolan and other filmmakers proved. BvS was simply “pompous” and too pretentious, without the solid writing and directing that made other movies shine. About the comic book accuracy.. that went right out the window pretty soon.
@johnotto-wl2yh
@johnotto-wl2yh 2 ай бұрын
@@HumbleSiPilot77Snyder did not understand DC material so stop sucking his dick aight 😂
@monsterguyx6322
@monsterguyx6322 2 ай бұрын
How sad it is for the fans that, rather than the successes of the MCU inspiring the DCEU to higher standards, we have seen the reverse - wherein the quality of the MCU has been lowered to the level of the DCEU, and then dropped further still.
@guiramos3733
@guiramos3733 4 ай бұрын
I understand all the blame on WB executives and I absolutely agree with it. However, there’s one thing Snyder is solely to blame: The Dark Knight Returns and The Death of Superman should’ve never been crammed into one single film. That was disrespectful to the source material and comic book fans. Batman V Superman is atrocious in its vision NOT because of rewrites or trimming. We should’ve gotten at least a Man of Steel trilogy before bringing Bats to face off. Even Batfleck deserved his own film, maybe two before that. Man of Steel was great and deserved a proper sequel.
@JRosa-pk4ze
@JRosa-pk4ze 4 ай бұрын
Agree 💯 %
@nccnandu
@nccnandu 4 ай бұрын
The downfall ?? It never rose to have any kind of downfall. Only superhero factory having a downfall is MCU
@maximumdeejay
@maximumdeejay 4 ай бұрын
You're right about MCU being a shell of what it was and a dissapointment across Marvel before, but IDK, why do you think the DCU wasn't off to a good start in the first place?
@geofft.1959
@geofft.1959 14 сағат бұрын
As a lifelong comic book and DC (especially Batman) fan, it kills me the way they handled it all. Not having a head, a plan and so many course corrections.
@teschie2187
@teschie2187 4 ай бұрын
loved the video. Currently writing an essay for uni about authorship using the 2 justice league films as case studies
@esk8unity
@esk8unity 4 ай бұрын
BRO THANK U FOR MAKING THIS. cleared a lot of stuff up for me. lotssss of information.. brings a tear to my eye knowing we had cavil for flash and MOS2. it could have been epic, poetic, beautiful, and amazing.. 😞
@bearbbb12
@bearbbb12 4 ай бұрын
I suppose it’s fitting to have the DCEU start in 2013 and wrap up in 2023. A 10 year run that was sadly very messy. It’s a shame since the DCEU had potential just like anything else but so many factors played into its downfall. Personally I’ve been wanting a reboot for awhile and I’m looking forward to and hoping for the best for the DCU Still though it’s still a shame the DCEU failed and I’m really sorry to all of the fans who genuinely loved this universe and wanted more. Hopefully things will turn around for the future of DC
@TheMasterQuests
@TheMasterQuests 4 ай бұрын
They were too stubborn to quit lmao, it was dead the second they released Justice League 🤣 the last few years it’s been a zombie
@lonniemonroe2714
@lonniemonroe2714 4 ай бұрын
Don't hold your breath
@CaptainReynolds-flyinspace
@CaptainReynolds-flyinspace 4 ай бұрын
What a work you hav done!) Thanks you)
@gladysgladorlino6729
@gladysgladorlino6729 3 ай бұрын
When this video had more views than the post Snyder DC movies😂
@bradburrick
@bradburrick 4 ай бұрын
Well done. Nice to see it all in one video.
@tjjordan4207
@tjjordan4207 4 ай бұрын
Part of the reason why Henry Cavill couldn't appear in anymore DC films after Justice League was because of his deal with Netflix in 2018, which prohibited him from doing other films outside of Netflix between 4 to 5 years, all so he could do the Witcher series (since he is a fan of the books and the games). After 2018, the only projects that Cavill did were Enola Holmes and The Witcher. The only exception to the rule was the Snyder Cut, which apparently was in Cavill's contract.
@atdeacon
@atdeacon Ай бұрын
The best thing about the theatrical relaese of Justice League was the song during the opening credits. Sigrit's version of that Leonard Cohen song 'Everyboy Knows' is wonderful.
@solaire-jd8jd
@solaire-jd8jd 3 күн бұрын
Well done. Very sad for fans but also enlightening.
@theglimmerman
@theglimmerman 4 ай бұрын
Great video brother. Appreciate all your efforts over the years in covering all things DCEU. Was a great trip down memory lane, especially that announcement of BvS by Harry Lennix at Comic Con. Zack Snyder will forever be a gracious champion of a human loved by the people. Can't wait to see Rebel Moon tomorrow!
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 4 ай бұрын
Rebel Moon sucks.
@Kageofyoutube
@Kageofyoutube 4 ай бұрын
Who asked?
@sbentsen2714
@sbentsen2714 4 ай бұрын
Yes 💯 agree
@Urvy1A
@Urvy1A 4 ай бұрын
Or Snyder is remembered as a man who never grew out of his emo teenage edgelord phase.
@curious5887
@curious5887 4 ай бұрын
Rebel Moon is distasteful and extremely overrated, plus, Zack Snyder was actually never a comic book fan from the start, the only reason he was chosen is probably only known to WB, but of course, his movies are never really that great except for Justice League Snyder Cut, but other than that, lot of his movie are just emo edgelord that doesn't have anything original, so sorry Snyder fan
@genreonlinenet
@genreonlinenet 2 ай бұрын
Good documentary. Thank you for sharing it. I feel what happened to Cavill was messed up. They told him to tell the fans he was back and then they changed their minds. I don’t know all the facts behind that, but that was terrible to do to anyone. Outside of that, I think they sabotaged the remaining films by announcing the new DCU thus giving no reason for casual viewers to invest their time in seeing them. I think Gunn will be successful and I don’t blame anyone for what happened. I just wish they were handled differently.
@abrahammwiinde735
@abrahammwiinde735 4 ай бұрын
I need to sit down for this first
@maxwinterburn1513
@maxwinterburn1513 4 ай бұрын
Till this day i still get mad goosebumps at that comic con announcement. Gutted it didnt work out but glad we got it
@gregmanca1474
@gregmanca1474 Ай бұрын
Wow...this was really good. Thank you for this!🇨🇦
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews Ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@karlosn5579
@karlosn5579 4 ай бұрын
"There were perfect things. Diamond absolutes. But things fall... " 😢
@mechajodzilla
@mechajodzilla 4 ай бұрын
Can I just say THANK YOU, I've been following the channel for a while but never expected you to gift us with a video essay of this quality. Have a great Christmas and keep up the amazing work I genuinely appreciate it.
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I hope you have a great Christmas too!!
@Thisthat1234
@Thisthat1234 Ай бұрын
The DCEU is a perfect example of, failure to launch, dead on arrival, lack of a plan all at the same time
@shgarli45
@shgarli45 2 ай бұрын
Had it not been for Ray Fisher outing WB, the Snyder Cut would to this day have never been seen. People should be Thanking Ray
@billross9132
@billross9132 Ай бұрын
too bad his career is probably over now
@shgarli45
@shgarli45 Ай бұрын
@@billross9132 He felt it were Worth the sacrifice so all respect to him. He basically "died" so art could live.
@brentcooper4345
@brentcooper4345 4 ай бұрын
Only thing left out is the fact that Gunn had already been tasked with penning a new Superman reboot script while Henry was announcing he’s back. Such deception.
@user-fm3xr9yz3i
@user-fm3xr9yz3i 4 ай бұрын
Gunn is a hack
@johnotto-wl2yh
@johnotto-wl2yh 10 күн бұрын
@@user-fm3xr9yz3iand so is Zack Snyder.
@facesofevildead
@facesofevildead 4 ай бұрын
Ive never been on board with Bruce and Lois having a kid, seeing that im pretty sure they don't have really much to very little screen time.
@gman46
@gman46 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, only smart decision made by WB.
@ginichilders9619
@ginichilders9619 4 ай бұрын
Not just little to no screen time together, but the timing wouldn't fit either, since Bruce more or less immediately began his search of Aquaman right after Clark's funeral
@justafidemyself
@justafidemyself 4 ай бұрын
I acknowledge that most people hate this franchise and that, to be fair, most movies are pretty disposable. But the fact that it's *so* messy makes me kind of enjoy it. My mind fills in a lot of the gaps between movies😂 it's a fun exercise.
@carbodude5414
@carbodude5414 3 ай бұрын
The worst thing about the DCEU is how bad of a precedent it set for others trying to set up their own movieverse Who needs years of a carefully laid out plan like the MCU when you can just rush out your movieverse in just the first or second and still make billions in the box office?
@MrAndresm900
@MrAndresm900 4 ай бұрын
I can never tell the difference from mustache CGI scenes, I fell like everyone just knew about it because someone leaked that info to the press
@kurfew7168
@kurfew7168 3 ай бұрын
Same to be honest, it always looked fine to me
@bqw2094
@bqw2094 2 ай бұрын
I can tell the difference, Henry's face just looks off in justice league
@michaelbutts4421
@michaelbutts4421 4 ай бұрын
Solid. Video. This put to words everything I have been defending about the DCEU for years and how WB is ruining it for everyone. Thank you for this video. It's a 10/10
@soulmca
@soulmca 19 күн бұрын
Outstanding video! I learned so much. Slow and strady wins the race but of course corporate greed can't wait for something to build organically.
@chrisd2170
@chrisd2170 4 ай бұрын
WB executives basically did the same thing with the original Christopher Reeve Superman movies and the Tim Burton Batman movies. They wouldn’t leave the directors alone to make their films. Ultimately they themselves destroyed their own franchises.
@joemamma137
@joemamma137 4 ай бұрын
Downfall? Doesn’t that imply it was in high regard at some point in time?
@matthewmcghee8832
@matthewmcghee8832 4 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: When MoS released, the Batman animated movie "The Dark Knight Returns Part 2" released the same year. Part 1 released the year before it. That is possibly why you see Jay Olivia in front of the poster of the 2 hr 32 mins of full DKR. Might have influenced Snyder for his Batman.
@king7ced
@king7ced 4 ай бұрын
Lovely video very informative great work
@OurMovieNews
@OurMovieNews 4 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@marshmallowsilk3789
@marshmallowsilk3789 19 күн бұрын
I want to say that they could have salvaged the DCEU but, honestly, with the mess that WB made, I don't blame Gunn for deciding on a reboot. I think it was probably the right call.
@RezayLaFlame
@RezayLaFlame 4 ай бұрын
I remember the time, I was so happy to see a connected DC Comics universe that I dreamed of when I was little in my room, I told myself that we were going to see lots of magnificent stories from this universe. but unfortunately for us some critics changed the company's ideas and it killed all our dreams.
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 4 ай бұрын
Don't blame the critics, blame the executives who had no idea what they were doing
@RezayLaFlame
@RezayLaFlame 4 ай бұрын
@@LuisSierra42 i know 🥲
@randomguy7863
@randomguy7863 4 ай бұрын
@@RezayLaFlame blame snyder too lmao
@RezayLaFlame
@RezayLaFlame 4 ай бұрын
@@randomguy7863 I don't think I said that all of the director's decisions were the best.
@randomguy7863
@randomguy7863 4 ай бұрын
@@RezayLaFlame more blame for wb but you cant deny snyder's dumb vision 🤦🤦 if you are another delusional snyderbot then okay
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