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2024 Giants are contenders to be one of the teams in nfl history 🔥🔥🔥

THE UNHINGED TITLES BEGIN

I must be one of those weirdos that watches every episode of these so I can get a preview on how all teams will do and what they got going on

Title has me dead 😭

The title of this, alone, got me to click. Subscribed to you guys after your Buffalo Bills vid. As a Bills fan, I can tell you that level-headed, reasoned assessments of the current state of the Bills is a very, very rare thing. Looking forward to watching more.

As a giants fan I was looking forward to this video for weeks and then I see the title 😕

Before the draft Giants signed FA Rookie Dante Miller, RB 5’10, 200 lbs Pro Day: 40: 4.27 Bench: 28 reps Foster Child who made Ivy League. Guy is an amazing person and athlete I have high hopes for him and I’m rooting for him

To use a Rich Eisenism, there's an awful lot of Higher Register being used throughout this analysis 😂

Was Wandale Robinson mentioned at any point in this video? Excellent receiver at creating space. Definitely needs to be accounted for by defenses. I anticipate it will be a lot of short passes to him on play action followed by deep shots to Hyatt and Nabers.

@BOOTLEG Football Brett "Jesus Christ I just looked at the number oh my god" made my day🤣

You guys are overthinking it. Kayvon won’t have less snaps that expected. He will be involved a ton.

Makes me feel less bad about losing saquon. If we are 31st in rushing with him, it can’t be that much worse without him.

I like this channel but to compare nabers to smith is a big big stretch. Nabers is a lot bigger (40lbs) and a lot faster (4.3 compared to 4.5). That was a lazy comparison.

Went to highschool with Tyrone Tracy Jr that’s all I have to add to this discussion

I think you guys are the best “serious” nfl media.

‘In a few years Malik Nabers can we a top 10 #2’ is 100% being low on Malik Nabers

We won 6 games,and couldve beaten the jets,bills,and rams,with all the injuries and roster swapping EVERY week..the season wasnt really a TOTAL wash

Saquon is living more off his reputation than his performance.

Respectfully I am so confused on the Malik Nabers take. It was initially said that in a few years he can be viewed as a top 10 WR2. And that he's not well cast as a WR1. I understand that ya'll are eluding to not liking him against press man coverage and having him lineup at the X. But he's 100% capable as he's still a little raw. He's a great prospect and was very deserving of top 10 draft capital and would prob be WR1 in most classes. That's not a WR2.

BJ Ojulari is most definitely not on the Giants 😂 His brother is though. Also Daboll is calling plays this year, and did so allegedly during the Cardinals game last season when they actually moved the ball through the air

This is indeed my first show if yours, youtube decided i needed a giants season preveiw.

Also Daboll has taken over play calling this year

I enjoyed a feature from last year where there were charts displayed that I could see visually the coverage breakdowns and the run types. Still amazing content.

they got such an outlook this season

Giants fan I haven’t been happy since I was 5 the rest of my family is Kc(not bandwagon my dad waited 50 for a Super Bowl)and I live in Texas. Help Me

28:00 That GM/Headcoach partnership importance that you raise is a really interesting one. I'll be interested to see what you make of that dynamic at The Jags when you get to them because it feels to me like Doug and Trent have very different visions about what a winning roster looks like which is a big contributor to why The Jags look such a mess at times. Hats off to The Giants for doing trade and contract with Burns the right way, there's a lesson for The Jets there ;-) 1:03:15 NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBZ! #GoGophers

I love ❤️ this channel man

Not having Burns and KT on the field together sounds like a waste of what talent you have

Nice intro and nice unbiased look. I starve for these type chats. Righto gentlemen.

Nate solder was the other name… Nate solder…

For this team, it once again will all come down to the Oline. They will live and die by the improvement of that groups play.

Gentlemen, I feel obligated to thank you for the *incredible* comprehensive breakdowns and analysis to prep us all for the season. Started watching last offseason and for the first time in my life I actually began to care about analytics 😅

The disrespect to Nabers is crazy. Nabers is a YAC master and that offense needs that type of player to create plays in his own. And Wandel Robinson creates space on his own so boxing Nabers in won’t be as an effective.

No mention at all of WanDale Robinson? 2nd round pick from Joe Schoen's first draft that many draft pundits highly questioned as to the value at his draft slot? Here's my take: WanDale is EASILY gonna be the second leading receiver by # of receptions on the Giants this year, about the same # as Nabers. Sorry but that's a huge whiff on your part fellas.

Amazing analysis. Finally real nfl analysts

One little thing that at 51:39. I know this video comes out in late May and the news broke out later, but Darren Waller has retired. They gotta put another guy at the Y spot. Theo Johnson, maybe?

Definitely one of the teams of all time! 🔥🔥

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Boogie as the 4i-6 tech type is interesting as a projection Brett. I'll tell you I'd bet Ryder Anderson is that guy instead for early downs

I think the only thing I'd put in to this is that Slayton was our number 1 and led the Giants in receiving for like the last 4/5 years or something like that with little to no help. Nabors unlocks Slayton A LOT. That and you spoke a ton about Hyatt, who may fit that 2 OR 3 wr role. Because if Slayton is on the field. He honestly is objectively the one you will out resources towards over Hyatt. As Hyatt isn't as diverse in his skill set (yet), and... Wandale Robinson. Check his stats for the second half of the year once he came back from injury... An absolute WEAPON from the slot. This doesn't include potential receiving threat of Daniel Bellinger, who was catching EVERYTHING thrown his way in 2022 before his eye injury. With Waller gone and Theo Johnson in... Belly is opening up that receiving window for everyone as well. The receiving threats all over the place on this offense are kinda scary, IF they can get the ball.

I thought people were too high on the Giants going into last season. Even healthy, I didn't think they'd do as well as 2022. Credit to the coaching staff to get what they could out of this roster.

Does underdog do any free fantasy football stuff? I want to play best ball because and I can’t find it on other fantasy apps, but I’m new to fantasy and not good so I’m not willing to put money down. I’ll take any suggestions (I currently use the ESPN fantasy app but I don’t see a best ball option)

No offense this is the first time I ever watched you guys one of my first Giant memories was Paul Hornung scoring three TD's I barely knew football anyway a great listen very through and enjoyable I was hoping we would get Drake Maye but were stuck with Jones and losing Barkley to Filthy was a kick in the nuts just hoping the defense can keep us in some games But Jones is an enigma wish him and hopefully the center improves! luck but the Evan Neal pick🙄 blows my mind the hope is that he becomes solid as well as you didn't mention Wandle whos got some quicks in his own right but a great show thank you .

I'm impressed...

I mostly agree with the Malik takes, I am defiantly worried about his production as an x and wonder why giants love the slot guys so much. Although I feel like a lot of people had similar concerns about Odell coming out and he was able to be productive right out the gate so we will have to see how it plays out.

All of this talk is nice but none of it matters if they don't get the O line fixed and I have my doubts about that.

Daboll is probably calling plays from the beginning of the season. Malik is the #1 and Wandale is the #2. Surprised y’all didn’t really mention wandale at all

Excited for our WR corps in 2025. Will be fun to watch them grow together this year.

Malik Nabers not a #1??? Lmao

The giants are slowly becoming one of the most unpredictable sports teams of all time 😂

I have to be honest, you guys are majorly disrespecting Wandale Robinson as a player! From the slot he is lethal, and if we can get him the ball he will have a good season. I know you also called this, but can’t say I agree with how you guys view Malik Nabers either… otherwise spot on lmao…. Hoping this coaching staff and having an actual o-line coach will make for a successful year

Malik, Wandale, and Hyatt will be deadly and a problem for coordinators. Never mind if the offensive line holds up, and Bellinger/Johnson can be a part of the passing game and not be required to block primarily. If the line is shapes up it'll look much better than you think. Also, Daboll is creative enough to get Malik into spots where the press will be less frequent.

Question - why not add the QBS to the Power Score metric? If its set to league rank but not curved (so 1-32 like Power Score) would it fit, or does it share some of the same stats?

If the Giants would have just stopped Drew Lock from running a touchdown drive they just might have beaten the Seahawks.

You have to give this front Office credit for one thing past 2 offseasons and that’s build a respectable receiver room. I’m a big believer in building WR before you draft another QB high in the draft. If Hyatt breaks out like they’re expecting him to, Nabers does his thing and wandale is lethal from the slot.

Most accurate title ever. Outstanding

I was wondering how long it would take before we got a video that wasnt some form of optimism for a team. We've finally found it.

Granted for the giants it makes sense the talent on the roster was worse after year 1 considering they spent the entire first year tearing the roster down but you were just hoping for more from the draft class. Injuries did absolutely decimate them though. You lose your best offensive player in Barkley, lose your star left tackle, your top 2 qbs, your talented te, your #2 edge, your #1 cb, and signing guards off the couch because you ran through all your depth. This is a bit more solid of a base now but this is a true 6 win team in my eyes. They were a few plays away from being a ten win team with close losses against the bills eagles and a couple other teams, but they were also just as close to being a two win team with a bad call on Washington and a missed fg from NE. Wild stuff

As a giants fan, i think wan'dale Robinson is primed to have a break out year. Way more than hyatt

EJ said it so perfectly talking about Hyatt, dude may be WR4 or 5 pmao

“I don’t believe in Daniel Jones” but anyways here’s how they put a literal 0 support score around him and let him get decapitated

People sleeping on us. They have a young solid team.

I cannot find the link that explains the metrics of this QBS system. I would like to know more about it.

I ain’t gone lie I had to turn it off when I heard bro say Malik could be a top ten #2 #2??? Nah I think he was the best receiver in the draft he’s hands down a #1 I think in three years we’ll be talking about Malik nabers in that top 5 in the nfl

Did I miss it or was Wan’dale Robinsion completely neglected this video. That man gets busy don’t sleep on him

*Read this comment* This is going to be the duality of talking about this Giants team. Whereas they shocked a lot of ppl and the year after those same shocked ppl expectations out shined the actual problems the Giants have. This will be the opposite of that coin. Expectations are low, for the team, scheme and QB. I don’t think they will limit DJ the way ppl think with the addition of extra reinforcements to the OL I think they are going to finally be able to play the way DaBoll wants. Don’t be surprised if they start to shock the rest of the league this year with how they play and how free the offense will look with a reinforced OL. They didn’t draft a QB because they needed to build a proper setting for that QB like you said. But what will also happen is a chance DJ actually shows what he’s capable with an actual pocket and time to make reads and throw the ball. I’m not optimistic but my prediction is the Giants might DOMINATE the league by surprise

This ep is really gunna test how committed I am to the series

Oh no, we’re here.

Who is going to tell him that bj ojulari doesn’t play for the giants?

daboll is calling plays this year

There are a lot of in depth analysis on Nabers and they back up what Brett and EJ said. He’s an all world slot receiver prospect or Y. He can be your X - WR1 but it’s not his ideal position.

We will be a lot better than people think

These guys brought some cold, hard, emotionless objectivity and reality to the Giants discussion. They summed things up pretty accurately, and did so without the overly, emotionally-invested (positive or negative) take you typically get from most Giants fans (who's patience has been stretched too thin by a decade of crap football).

im pretty sure reports from the current practices have said that Daboll is calling the plays and running the offense.

I believe Tyrone Tracy went to Iowa as a WR, then idk when transferred to Purdue is where he converted to RB.

Perfect example of build the “TEAM” 1st It doesn’t make sense to get a QB killed b4 you can “build a TEAM” around him!!! Chiefs are another example of “building a team 1st”!!!

Calling him a WR2 is definitely being extremely down on him and I’m not sure how I can put that differently? Idk how to justify the difference between that take and reality and what was said in analyzing him. He’s not waddle. He has the route running. He has the size. No reason he can’t beat man.

How do you view Tyrone Tracy vs Malachi Corley? Theo Johnson vs Jelani Woods?

Oh lord, the Giants. This should be fun

You guys were very generous here. Coaching staff is really all they have they were bottom 3 in power last year and lost both their best players. I would put them at 3-5 wins

Overall really good analysis guys. Very accurate macro persoective but I have some topics to note on. Mike wont be calling plays. Daboll has taken over playcalling all of the practices this summer and from the outside its pretty obvious whats gonna happen. Even media stuff Daboll has talked about how many head coaches who are offensive guys call their plays so yeah he wants to take that control of his offense for his vision. You're not all that wrong about Malik but I really feel like you're selling him short. He is a Tyreek/Waddle in usage/role immediately. They're gonna feed him the ball this year, he's gonna be in motion, crossers, screens, fades, slants, curls, double moves I'd say mostly. No he isnt a technically skillset complete alpha yet but there is no reason he can't grow into that by year 2 or 3. His stop start suddenness is insane, body control, RAC, hands ability to pluck is all way up there as a player and he isnt small at all he's a solid built dude with enough length. He needs to be refined technically in some route running biomechanics, gameplan, and releases dealing with press. Thats it and there isn't any reason he can't improve there to become an AB, Jefferson, Odell, etc as a 1. Hes 30 lbs bigger than Devonta smith with the same frame length while being faster and more explosive. I'd guess 90%+ of us Giants fans are only sad about where Snakeuon went not that hes gone. That money needed ro go elsewhere, they weren't in position to pay a back Andru is playing the nickel if that helps the closer to the LOS skillset outlook EJ

I believe reports from mini camp were that daboll was calling plays and is expected to this season

Are they serious? Don't mention Robinson at WR. Thibs less time? Really?

Any thoughts on carmen Bricillio? Feels like the giants have always struggled with poor o line coaching and he could be the outlier

I disagree with the concept that Dabool returns to the offensive scheme of 2022. It was personnel based. Control the ball, control the mistakes, control the T.O.P, low scoring games. I see them with a healthy top 4 WR of Nabers, Slayton, Hyatt and Robinson I DO SEE 4 Verts. Why not? Also, the idea that Basham is any more than an injury replacement is HILARIOUS. He is a JAG. I see Ojulari being a Nascar package DT next to Dex on passing downs.

Thanks brett now i have to go back and watch some giants film because i dont understand how a team that statically bad found 6 wins

I’d love to see the difference in QBS from Danny dimes games and then Danny devito games

The title 😂😂😂

Brett try to not say distillation challenge: impossible

Liked the pod. Didn’t agree with the naybers take at all BUT still was a good pod

Too bad they didn’t win 2 games. They would have a starting QB with a darn then.

Would it be possible for KT to put on 20-30 pounds over this season and then be a base end next year in a 3-3-5 , his lack of a bag as a pass rusher can get frustrating on the edge so his hand work would also have to get better but just wanted to get your guys’ thoughts on it

Brett I think you're drastically over estimating the number of Snaps boogie is going to get. He basically didn't see the field last year and the bills didn't want him. Even if it's Burns with Kayvon I don't think they use Basham in that spot.

U heard it first from me! Giants gonna go to the Superbowl this year! Go Giants.

As a giants fan on the saquon situation: generally don’t care but really we have so many holes to fill it would have been stupid to pay a significant amount of our money on a rb would have been pretty stupid so I can live with it.

I know you guys are the most positive NFL guys out there but I am unsure how this team can sniff 9 wins. I really need it explained to me how a bad offense and a bad defense combine to be a winning team.

Never thought there was 2 of US EJ... 😂 I'm the REAL EJ Snyder 😂 what are the odds.

Based on the title I thought this vid was gonna be more negative but it’s pretty fair and accurate

We would settle for being fun and watchable. Make the offense fun again please.