Outboard trim-tilt relays explained

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Outboard trim-tilt relays explained

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8 жыл бұрын

This video goes through the theory of trim tilt relays and how they work. We also build a functioning trim tilt control unit to show how one can be made using cheap after-market parts from an auto store. The purpose of these trim tilt relays is to activate and reverse the current flow so the motor can spin in two directions allowing the outboard to go up and down.
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@cdc9776 5 ай бұрын

The wonders of videos posted to KZfaq, they're the gift that keeps on giving. You posted this SEVEN years ago and it's still helping us mentally challenged boaters. Thanks much from the USA !!!

@chjp2346 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Stu, with 40 years experience behind me I always find your explanations spot on and well relayed. If every person in the industry were as sharp as you we would need half as many. Cheers from Oregon.

@notsure7874 3 ай бұрын

Information well relayed indeed!

@easemailboxes 3 жыл бұрын

So every time I have a problem my searches always lead me back to you. Here we are again... thanks for your help... again. "Understand how they work"... This is what has become so valuable about your videos. I dont just get the 'fix' but i get a fuller understanding of the 'why' the 'how' and sometimes the 'when'. Awesome.

@suadhalilovic1501 4 ай бұрын

Dangar Marine is better than the online course I'm doing at the moment, he engages the audience at human speed😁👌

@henrygonzalez1201 2 жыл бұрын

I had to watch the video about 10 times to fully understand the relay and its function and each wire connected, I'm a newbie to boating and your videos have really helped me, Thank you so very much. When you are in the USA you have a home to stay at My home is your Home.

@jamesnorbeck5692 5 жыл бұрын

Just built a relay box for my '85 Johnson 70 horse using this video as a guide. Very happy with the results. Thank you for the information.

@DangarMarine 5 жыл бұрын

Nice one! Glad the video helped you James. :)

@josephursone367 4 жыл бұрын

Wow so well explained!!! I am going to the boat today to check out why the trim and tilt does not work. You just saved me hours for trial and error to learn how the system works.

@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын

The the video help you. :)

@bryangmailmcgrath5048 5 жыл бұрын

This explanation really helped, I didn't understand all the relay mumbo jumbo and now I vaguely do. I appreciate all your vids. thank you thank you thank you.

@DangarMarine 5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Bryan, glad it helped.

@dylanj853 4 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! I bought a motor with the relay harness melted. Couldn't find a replacement and I had all these odd cut wires to sort through. Got it working great today because of you. Very much appreciated!!

@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. :)

@matt32767 6 жыл бұрын

This video was 100% what I was looking for! Bought a boat that didn't come with the harness or the relays and didn't even know they existed! I was stuck staring off into space wondering how the hell to connect it to the shifter. You have made me happy-face and get a thumbs up and a subscriber.

@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks glad you enjoyed the video. Great to have you on boards as a subscriber! :)

@michaelshew7226 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll tell you what. I’m very mechanically incline. You are my favorite mechanic to learn from. Very informative. Very detailed. And you give the theory of how things work. Without the understanding of how it works your just remembering wiring. I own an hvac buiss in northern ny. Your awesome!!!! Thank you. Mike shew.

@1am847 3 жыл бұрын

What a terrific piece this gentleman has done, so very, very helpful, thank you.

@nigebkk 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you this ,has helped me no end. I found the problem and your loom has sorted it. Not being savvy with circuits it's nice to find something so well explained and easy to follow.

@zombieprinting2670 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so Much! I had 3 of these solenoids laying around and This worked like a charm and motor doesn't heat up any longer. So happy to have my trim and tilt up and running!

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@bobfrey6953 Жыл бұрын

I understand everything you said but still had a hard time piecing it all together until I watched this video. Awesome explanation. My trim-tilt now works!

@whitey129 11 ай бұрын

Pretty amazing when you stumble across a video on youtube that is 100% what you're looking for. Thank you for this excellent leason. Fingers crossed my power tilt install goes without issue.

@walter2990 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your systematic, simple, & detailed instructions for the trim & tilt relay system! You are a fabulous instructor! Please keep the videos coming! P.S. I owned and operated an outboard motor repair business for 6 years, and I know that I still can learn new things!!

@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Walter, glad to hear you enjoyed the vid. I love learning new things every day and I hope it will never stop. :)

@walter2990 6 жыл бұрын

@@DangarMarine Where are you located? Your accent suggests you might be somewhere other than in the American South! (Where I am.) I've watched several more of your videos, and have really enjoyed them! Have a good day!

@thurmanshifflett4536 7 жыл бұрын

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that after watching your video I was able to rewire my tilt and trim and it works great. Thanks.

@jstorres486 2 жыл бұрын

There’s not one thing u don’t cover on outboards I just search and boom u have a video covering it!! Thank u this video is well explained!

@JointerMark 4 жыл бұрын

I was literally on my way out the door to look at relays to get my trim setup working again. Thank you very much for this very clear presentation. The blackboard stuff was very helpful!

@zacharyirving5080 2 жыл бұрын

I watched this a few years ago to fix my tilt and trim on my Johnson outboard, today I'm back to apply the same setup to a bus door to replace a circuit board that no longer exists!

@colinmead8996 Жыл бұрын

With a short shaft transomed early 14’ Brooker fitted with a 20hp EFI Tohatsu elect. start motor, I’m looking at ways to add power tilt & trim. Thanks for this explanation! I’ll watch it again. Now to the mechanism..

@larryh.4774 6 жыл бұрын

just made your home built relay harness , it worked first try . wow ! thanks ! i haven't had that thing work in years , when i finally went to oder one , it was obsolete . very good presentation .

@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, and congratulations of your successful build!

@dbayboyds409 7 жыл бұрын

Great presentation. Thoughtful and clear! Well done! It is a challenge and a gift to make the complex things seem simple!

@07Convertable 2 жыл бұрын

I realize that I'm a bit late coming to the table but I must admit that this is absolutely the "BEST" video on relays that I've ever seen! Finally, someone who actually shows what they are talking about in action and on a real-world application. Thank you, Sir!! You have a new subscriber.

@cmmanis 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the complete explanation with the diagrams as well. Your video explains trim tilt in such a way that a non-electrician like me can understand. Excellent example.

@COYOTE5053 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video, brother-in-law and I have to install this on his pontoon. We had wired it without the relays and it burnt up!!! THANK YOU !!!

@DangarMarine 8 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Donald, good luck with the install. :)

@frisko3000 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for taking the time to put this up Stu. Really helped Dad and I understand and diagnose an issue with our tilt and trim system.

@GlenB1963 4 ай бұрын

Thanks mate. You saved my arse. I bought a 1978 johnson 75 stinger. And everything is missing. Now I have an escape route. That's if the hydraulics work, of course. Got check that, too. Fluid low, and only just shows slight movement, when you put the blue and green trim motor wires directly to battery poles. Fingers crossed.

@williamholsey9125 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting the video on how to make a trim title switch. That was excellent step by step instructions on how the relay system works. Because of your clear delivery on the function of each pin on the relay I was able to get the trim title on my Johnson working again. Thanks again Dangar Marine. Will

@margento60 4 жыл бұрын

Like the others said...you make things easy to understand, even for this old dog. Thank you so much! You should have one MILLION subscribers!

@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

@roguewarr4662 Жыл бұрын

Well stuck here in Florida with my 1998 22 ft regal boat with my lower unit stuck in the down position .And the switch on the shifter doing nothing . I thought I would watch some KZfaq videos on the operation of the trim motor system . Well after watching your detail video ,I was able to diag the problem to a pour electrical connector to the trim motor itself. problem solved. Thanks for a great detail video from down under ,well done .

@dellockett5096 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent Video and explanation of a Tilt/Trim or Trim Tab (reversing) motor using a relay. I knew very little about relays until this video, and now I am 100% certain about how to wire my trim tab motors with heavy duty wire at the motor and light duty wire running to the help. !!! before this video, I thought that the wires that ran to the dashboard switch were running from the POSITIVE side of the circuit -- now I see that the Normally On and the DPDS switch on the dash is carrying the NEGATIVE current. Thank you Dangar Marine.. really appreciate you taking time to share this knowledge. you also saved me from having to wait (and pay) for a marine electrician.

@dellockett5096 5 жыл бұрын

light duty wire running to the HELM (not help)

@rogerbeard5185 6 жыл бұрын

You just saved me hundreds of dollars. I'm off to NAPA tomorrow for relays.

@michaelbarnes7538 Жыл бұрын

Just like to thank you for this video explanation I’ve been trying to sort this issue for ages ,,now busy looking online for the same relays you used as well as water proof switch and box ,,,really enjoy your videos……just for the record I’ve found said relays here in the UK and ordered them ,,,

@EthanDarke 7 жыл бұрын

I have a practical relay troubleshooting lab final tomorrow first thing in the morning, your video has REALLY given me better insight and understanding than the notes and now I honestly feel like I have a shot at passing

@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ethan, glad the video helped you and hope you wen't well in your final!

@mrd7996 6 жыл бұрын

Great informative video. Thanks for dumbing down the theory and application for us non electro-mechanical people.

@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, glad you liked it. :)

@justachillin4224 4 жыл бұрын

This guy is so great !!! explains everything so easy that my 9 year old grandson did this him self

@michaelbarnes7538 Жыл бұрын

Many thanks for this great video ,,,,I’ve just installed my tilt trim unit thanks to your video ,,,keep up the great job

@nathansmith6914 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice. Even after watching the bit where you showed you'd bought the wrong relay i went and bought the same one, grrrr.

@abemaysonet7291 6 жыл бұрын

I had to watch it a few times but you finally got me through it. I think it was your Puerto Rican accent. Thanks a ton. Good job

@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate

@sewell6564 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Mr. Dangar. Its's always a pleasure to watch and learn. You do a fantastic job with your lessons. I bought a 48 Johnson that had the relays robbed from the motor. Now I'm on my way to fixing that thanks to you. No more running aground in the Chesapeake, My prop and lower unit want to say Thanks Also!

@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome mate. :)

@ryleewatson6849 2 жыл бұрын

Dude I started watching all your videos with renko rebuild! But this is a classic old one! Just came across it random! Your the man buddy!

@sammyfrye8204 4 жыл бұрын

Great presentation. I stopped your video and drew myself a wiring diagram. Worked very well.

@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, glad it worked for you. :)

@fullsendadventures 4 жыл бұрын

This guys videos are pure gold. Thanks for taking the time to do these.

@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, you're most welcome. :)

@RJMMD 2 жыл бұрын

Very impressive explanation to understand how the relays interconnect between toggle switch snd tilt motor

@marcschuller209 2 жыл бұрын

very educational ..thanks a lot for being so clear in your explanation..gave me an understanding of how relays work..

@jrdreinke1 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! I have learned so much from you in the last three weeks! Thank you for your time. You're an excellent teacher and a pretty top notch mechanic!

@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jared, glad you've been enjoying the vids. :)

@benrowin1 2 жыл бұрын

@@DangarMarine i have a 1979 150hp evinrude outboard motor. I have a starter solenoid in a relay box for my tilt and trim. Can i get rid of the solenoid and but in relay boxes instead. Need some help. The wiring on my boat i need to redo and im kind of stuck. Thank you

@cliffodell8593 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutley excellent!! On my 97 Evinrude 40, the trim switches are fed by the + of the battery and the other side of the solenoid coils are at - of the battery. Functionality is still identical to your drawing. Good work mate...

@DangarMarine 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Cliff, glad you liked it. :)

@chuckstang 2 жыл бұрын

I have solenoids but still learned a lot from your video. Thank you.

@DangarMarine 2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear. :)

@helendando5306 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this! I seem to have fried the original relay system on my old Mariner so now I know how to make a new one! Very clearly explained 🎉

@DangarMarine Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

@williampiper521 7 жыл бұрын

dangar thank you very much this video helped 100% you are the only one I watch when I need help and you have pulled threw every time thank you again. William piper

@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome William, glad the videos have been helping you. :)

@Alexa-sk3pn 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent explanation, this will make troubleshooting mine much easier

@anthonyreabold8470 Жыл бұрын

Thank you your diagram and visual application was spot on.

@zachdavis712 4 жыл бұрын

Motor on a boat i just got has all the trim tilt wiring torn out and has it hooked to 2 junky solenoids botled to the transom😂 everything worked when hooked straight to the battery but wouldnt work at all with the thumb switch from the controls. According to marine engines website it would cost about 600 dollars to put all the electrics back in so i will just be doing this and using the existing wiring from thumb switch. Thanks alot for the idea!!

@hamoirl 8 жыл бұрын

thanks mate fit a second hand tilt to my outboard thanks to your video i now have it wired up and working really good video keep them coming

@DangarMarine 8 жыл бұрын

Nice work! Glad to hear you got it all running. :)

@ballzybaits4414 4 жыл бұрын

Best electrical explanation on youtube. thanks!

@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. :)

@marknavas7268 4 жыл бұрын

Great explanation of how it works, electrically. Thanks for producing these educational videos! You are making the world smarter, one boat at a time!

@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark!

@williamcollier2044 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great explanation and instruction. I got a CMC 130 with no wiring harness this is exactly what I needed.

@jerrykennard Жыл бұрын

Another great video, so easy to follow, thank you from the UK

@DangarMarine Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@bmck9097 8 жыл бұрын

Very good explanation. I think even a novice could follow your diagram easily. Well done. I like the way you explained the difference in the relays.

@DangarMarine 8 жыл бұрын

+B Mckinnon Thanks mate, glad I didn't manage to make it too confusing! ;)

@MarkHolzhauer_Holzy 7 жыл бұрын

Nice that you ran through the schematics. This will apply to my 2 and 3 wire Mercury Power Tilts, and my Warn Winch.

@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark, glad you liked it. This setup of relays certainly has plenty of applications.

@quintinopinto1083 6 жыл бұрын

Exactly the kind I was desparately in search for too. U r the best n I wish to b ur student some day.

@donbraboy8267 8 жыл бұрын

Just received the solenoid to make my tilt work again. I think I'll add a relay to keep from having to run the larger gage wires to my console mounted switch. Thank you Stu!

@DangarMarine 8 жыл бұрын

+Don Braboy Hey Don, you're welcome. You will definitely be better off with light gauge wires and the relays. Let me know how you get on with it.

@donbraboy8267 8 жыл бұрын

+Dangar Marine - Stu, I uploaded a video of my tilt trim circuit. In the middle of rebuilding the electric motor now - brushes were stuck and corroded.

@DangarMarine 8 жыл бұрын

It's a common problem with the brushes. Having an electric motor so close to salt water rarely ends well!

@PRACERZ 6 жыл бұрын

Another extremely well explained video, thank you very much. I knew what you are showing , but most would not, so this video is of great help to those.

@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

@paulhorvat8750 Жыл бұрын

I have a trim motor stuck on down , can a relay get stuck on keeping the motor running?

@JointerMark 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the information you so clearly present here. I just came in from working on my boat's trim system and you video was just the kind of information I was looking for.

@WereAllThatBored 4 жыл бұрын

This helped me a ton. Because of your vid I also found that there are relays that act as a dual relay, but are a single unit.

@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, the OEM ones are often a single molded unit.

@bornwildtv1317 8 жыл бұрын

Always excited to see a new video from Dangar Marine. I've been using your joke about the three things you need to get a motor working (money luck + beer) and it pleases successfully...oh and I have picked up some good knowledge from you as well throughout the years. Keep up the good work!

@DangarMarine 8 жыл бұрын

+Josh Blodgett Thanks Josh, glad you've been enjoying the channel. Always nice to know that people are looking forward to the next one. :)

@jonsainken7278 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent tutorial for understanding the trim-tilt on outboards.

@DangarMarine 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jon. :)

@alanmyers4297 7 жыл бұрын

Watched the hole series. You made my job on my boat 6-pack simple! Thanks

@alanmyers4297 7 жыл бұрын

Whole. Lol

@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, that sounds like mission accomplished! ;)

@jimmienewton6465 7 жыл бұрын

Agree with everyone else; excellent video, Sir! Thank you for making the effort to produce this! I think it will help make diagnosing the "sort-of" non-working trim/tilt unit on my older 115 hp Mercury 2-stroke motor, at least the electrical part of the equation.

@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jimmie, good luck with the diagnosis.

@unsaltedlife5998 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this video I’m currently making a trim system and was looking for the wiring diagram and this fit what I was looking for.

@massadus7872 7 жыл бұрын

Great demonstration. I will be using this video in the near future for reference. Thanks a lot!

@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joey, glad you liked it. :)

@mainecenterfortaichiqigong2883 2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated mate, I built a bomber version of this over the weekend and it works perfectly !

@A3805000 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your clear explanation and your time to help other boaties out on a budget. Off soon looking for the million dollar barra in the NT

@DangarMarine 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome mate, enjoy your fishing trip!

@jimdrechsel3611 3 жыл бұрын

Great job explaining something that can be very confusing. I got the answer I was looking for! Thank you

@fabiansosa5318 8 жыл бұрын

Great video once again mate,I'm sure plenty of people will take away useful information from this and get a better understanding of the workings of things from all your fantastic videos.

@DangarMarine 8 жыл бұрын

+Fabian Sosa Thanks Fabian. So pleased you ate enjoying the vids. Great to have you following along. :)

@NB-wj9tc 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome video explained it perfectly. My tilt trim works perfect now. Thank you!

@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Norris, glad you got your trim fixed up. :)

@reneivars114 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent tutoriel Stu. Thank you and all the best. RJ from Ottawa Canada

@OMGWTFLOLSMH 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Great explanation of a relay and the purpose of one.

@quintinopinto1083 6 жыл бұрын

I live in Cape Verde islands, west Africa and and lots of outboard engines are used here but unfortunately there are no professionals. Those who have little ideas are exploit alot. Though I have very little idea when it comes to outboards due to some of the principles I know about engine but I can see that the many who claim to be professional are not. I'm someone very curious and have interest in any hand work and really love what you do. If only I had the chance to meet you, train under you and accumulate a quarter of your knowledge on outboard. One of my dreams is to have adequate knowledge on outboard and a workshop with all the necessary tools

@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын

It sounds like you would have lots of work if you had your own workshop there. I hope you can get one one day. :)

@Holliswood54 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your time and explaining in simple terms!

@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын

+Ben Gilliland You're most welcome Ben. :)

@matttackett5743 6 жыл бұрын

Dangar Marine my 225 evinrude is the trim is stuck humming and runs battery down what do you think is causing it

@DavidVillarrealAngler 6 жыл бұрын

Great video. Now I have a good understanding of relays. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. :)

@propertydude4024 7 жыл бұрын

Great post! Many thanks. I was looking for a solution to repair trim system in my '95 JetSki and this did the trick. Thank you.

@DangarMarine 7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, glad the video helped you.

@daimlerblanco3752 4 жыл бұрын

Haha he is my teacher my best online instructor hahahah humble men sharing his knowledge

@petemanning8963 6 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial thank you very much. Have been learning plenty from your vids and feeling much more confident to perform my own maintenance. Cheers.

@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Pete, glad it helped you. :)

@PatrickSteil 4 жыл бұрын

Great job! I finally understand how relays actually work!

@TimNewton0829 6 жыл бұрын

Just did this. Worked like a charm. Thanks

@brianajenkins4595 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Helped me understand the wiring for tilt and trim and how relays work.

@kevinblanco4105 6 жыл бұрын

You are so amazing wao thanks I’m learning with you a lot.my respect for you from Florida USA 🇺🇸

@DangarMarine 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kevin, glad you enjoying the vids. :)

@claudedesrosiers7687 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much You should do one video on CMC pt 35 take apart and explain the whole thing the only thing the other people do is the installation doesn’t that help at all with troubleshooting we all do like what you do

@SkyGuy505 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Very clear instructions!

@jonathana8348 3 жыл бұрын

That was really useful and hopefully will help be check through my wiring on Volvo outdrives which each have 2 relays as described

@DangarMarine 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

@cameronmorrison5273 5 жыл бұрын

Very good explanation thank you

@DangarMarine 5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. :)

@coaldude1481 8 жыл бұрын

Nice job, you cleared up the problem I am having.

@DangarMarine 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott, glad to hear the video helped.

@HunterEdits 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this. I have a mess of cut harnesses to try to put back together and I'm confident I'll be able to tackle it tonight because of this.