The Ugly Truth About Paint Protection Film (PPF) After Just 6 Months & 3,500 Miles

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Out of Spec Detailing

Out of Spec Detailing

Күн бұрын

Coleton looks at a paint-protected Mercedes he recently did a full correction, detail, and coatings on to discuss paint protection film, or PPF, and how it holds up in the real world. Hear his opinions on PPF in general and when it makes sense to go with it as an option.
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0:00 Welcome
0:47 My Background with PPF
3:03 What Bugs Do To PPF
6:54 My Take On PPF Value
8:28 Rock Chips
10:06 Installer Issues
14:46 Wrap-Up
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@mynameismyname6194
@mynameismyname6194 5 ай бұрын
Isn’t the whole point of PPF that it is a sacrificial layer so instead of the bug stains permanently damaging your paint it damages the PPF? So essentially you don’t have to repaint your car and as result reducing the resale value of your car, you just take off the PPF and now have a more desirable car to sell or trade in and with perfect (original) paint, which ultimately means higher price for the seller.
@shojus
@shojus 5 ай бұрын
That's what he explained in this video. It's when you see people getting PPF on a vehicle that will never recoup the costs of even getting that done is what boggles my mind! To each his own I guess...
@suvann540i
@suvann540i 4 ай бұрын
real talk... prior to ppf being a thing, i've never sold/traded in a car where the paint having minor defects affected it's value.
@hotdognobun
@hotdognobun 4 ай бұрын
I've had PPF/Wrap at a shop here in San Diego. After 7 years I removed them and notice lines of scratches everywhere that is caused by the razor the shop used. The value definitely went down and to say you get good value when selling or trading is not true.
@FrankW1029
@FrankW1029 4 ай бұрын
@@hotdognobun exactly, PPF and vinyl wrapping is always risky when the installer hand cuts. All those video saying they are so good that they only cut the vinyl and not underneath are all BS. Those videos you see they cut vinyl over their hands; the truth is your skin is stretchable, the low amount of pressure applied over the skin with some of the blades will not cut you, but if you take that same amount of pressure apply it to paint that doesn't stretch it will leave a mark. Why does the vinyl cut then? because vinyl is a type of material that once it starts to rip the edge of the knife will slice through.
@costafilh0
@costafilh0 4 ай бұрын
"I am a professional specialized in paint correction and ceramic coatings. PPF is not worth the cost and inconvenience, I recommend paint correction and ceramic coating. Trust me, bro!" 🤣
@ericsawatzky54
@ericsawatzky54 5 ай бұрын
As someone who is in the PPF/Ceramic industry I can appreciate this video. In my opinion, the only way to sell PPF is as a sacrificial layer of protection (like you mentioned) to protect your paint. PPF is a tangible product that will always be there and protect the paint from the majority of scratches, chips and dings regardless of how someone takes care of their vehicle. There is a big education curve that needs to take place between the installer and the consumer and lots of that education you touched on well in this video.
@SirGalahadThePure
@SirGalahadThePure 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. When I ordered my Charger Hellcat, I immediately looked to set up PPF installation. The whole point is to protect the original paint and replace the PPF panels as needed. I have replaced the PPF on the wide body just in front of the passenger doors and it was relatively cheap. Paint underneath what still perfect though the PPF was pretty beat up.
@sheldonduffy9442
@sheldonduffy9442 Ай бұрын
In my opinion, in the long run, PPF always looks worse, especially on light colored cars.
@ericHHII
@ericHHII Ай бұрын
If people are more educated though, the price is gonna drive way down
@chrissimmons9969
@chrissimmons9969 5 ай бұрын
I drive quite a bit up to 28k miles a year. My commute to work is almost all expressway and with my last car I just couldn’t keep up with massive amounts of rock chips I was getting. When I bought my Type R the first thing I did was take it in for professionally installed PPF and ceramic coating. PPF may not be for everyone, but I am quite happy with how it has protected the leading edges of my car up to this point.
@alichaudhry12
@alichaudhry12 4 ай бұрын
Congrats, I just got mine a couple of weeks ago and thinking of going with matte PPF. How you looking the car so far?
@chrissimmons9969
@chrissimmons9969 4 ай бұрын
@@alichaudhry12 Welcome to the club. I'm loving the car. It is by far the most fun car I have owned. Of course most of all my other cars were family sedans. My CTR is Championship White and I just had the roof PFF wrapped in gloss black and it really helps to tie in with the rear wing. It looks great.
@alichaudhry12
@alichaudhry12 4 ай бұрын
@@chrissimmons9969 that's what I have and am looking to do the exact same with the roof, can I get some pics please.
@chrissimmons9969
@chrissimmons9969 4 ай бұрын
@@alichaudhry12 sure how can I get pics to you?
@Dejan_23Unlimited
@Dejan_23Unlimited 4 ай бұрын
JAAAAAG 🙏
@jimbuono2404
@jimbuono2404 4 ай бұрын
A year ago I bought a 4 year old Mercedes SL450 with full PPF over the entire car. The car was just off lease and had spent it's life in Florida, bug capital of the US. The paint was flawless. Not a swirl, not a stain, no blems except for a couple of chips on a mirror. What creates flaws in the paint is driving 70 mph on the highway or perhaps a windy day around town. Dust, fine particles of dirt and the like create micro abrasions in the paint. This is where you benefit from ppf. The ppf protects from these types of abrasions and they don't seem to damage the ppf at all. After my owning the car for another year, the paint looks like it just came out of the factory. Yes, it's expensive, but unless you drag out the buffing wheel once a year, and I don't, the ppf will, in most cases, keep your paint looking factory fresh.
@mach183
@mach183 Ай бұрын
This so good to hear I just moved too Florida
@IronCan88
@IronCan88 28 күн бұрын
I have xpel ppf and it makes me happy knowing my paint is protected, and when i wash my car i know uts going to look like new and shiny. Because i have OCD and any imperfection just gets in my nerves, so ppf is easily worth it for me. If you dont care about rock chip and are mainly focused on value then dont use ppf. You wont get your money back when you sell your car, but while you own the car, you will be happy ppf helped keep it looking beautiful 😍
@slimdaddyy
@slimdaddyy 4 ай бұрын
I believe PPF is good for people who don’t like scratches, point blank. It’s not about making things perfect. When parking in parking lots or driving long periods. It’s helpful to know you have that extra layer of protection instead of getting your car re painted.
@zacklewis342
@zacklewis342 2 ай бұрын
How are you protected by paying thousands upfront to MAYBE save a few thousand on paint IF you ever happen to need it?
@slimdaddyy
@slimdaddyy 2 ай бұрын
I paid $5200 for a full X3M in XPEL. A lot of shops upcharge like crazy. That is cheaper than respirating. Most Luxury cars have expensive paint therefore it cost. Especially labor. I live in the northeast and labor here is not cheap. I rather pay $5200 once to protect my depreciation asset that I love to drive. It doesn’t protect against everything but 90% of things on the road it can.
@slimdaddyy
@slimdaddyy 2 ай бұрын
Than re spraying*** typo
@jacobpetersen5662
@jacobpetersen5662 2 ай бұрын
BINGO! And that is exactly why I have it on my hood. Only partial though, and it has paid for itself. ZERO rock chips after 7 years and that's on 2 cars. ALL our cars previously, were covered in multiple rock chips when we had to sell them. Not ideal! So there 100% IS a place for PPF.
@executiveinvestments
@executiveinvestments 2 ай бұрын
@@zacklewis342 go repaint the front of ur car and see the car value drop like a rock from it. You seem like the type of person who says why get insurance? You man never need it.
@bartekkozie7122
@bartekkozie7122 20 күн бұрын
I’am the owner of PPF studio in Australia and wanted to thank you for the video. I have to agree that PPF is not for everyone, I always mention to my customers this wont solve all your problems. In my opinion PPF is worth the money as long as you use best brands like Suntek or XPEL. Installation process is a key - edge wrapped, do not overstretch and use patterns. A lot of people don’t understand PPF installation is basically a handcraft and many of detailers expend their services without thinking how difficult it is to make it right and that’s what destroying our industry. I found educating people about the whole idea make them coming back with other vehicles. In addition detailers sell ceramic coating as a paint protection which everyone knows it does not, expect UV.
@dnegel9546
@dnegel9546 8 күн бұрын
What happens if you put 3+ layers of ppf on ? Just wondering if 1 layer is kinda good. What would 10 layers do. Then when the top layer is damaged you peel it off and its like new underneath. 😅
@hypereffects972
@hypereffects972 6 күн бұрын
@@dnegel9546 You would never, ever need 10 layers of ppl. Most pff films are at minimum 8 mils thick. More than thick enough for rock chips to never go through. The film doesn't get shredded over the years. So to answer your question, nothing would happen other than them unnecessary being on the car. 1 layer of ppl is good.
@anangelshero0410
@anangelshero0410 4 ай бұрын
Think about this, if a rock chip would've damaged the PPF as described in this video, can you imagine how badly it would've damaged the clearcoat AND paint!?
@jacobpetersen5662
@jacobpetersen5662 2 ай бұрын
Rocks don't damage PPF. The video is silly.
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 Ай бұрын
@@jacobpetersen5662what about all the dents and divots in the film he showed?
@filippxx
@filippxx 22 күн бұрын
Of course it does, not all rocks are made equal. ​@@jacobpetersen5662
@tommykaira8775
@tommykaira8775 Күн бұрын
He's saying bugs damaged the PPF
@j.taveras8447
@j.taveras8447 2 ай бұрын
The whole half of the video of you talking around the car before zooming in, it looks perfectly fine to me. Seems like the ppf did it's job.
@richscott2483
@richscott2483 Ай бұрын
Once the damage is done, will you be happy to spend another $2,000 plus dollars every 6 months to 12 months?
@j.taveras8447
@j.taveras8447 Ай бұрын
@@richscott2483 Complete bs, I've had my car PPF'd for over two years w ceramic coat on top and have zero issues. You do not need to replace it every 6-12 months. My previous M3 had PPF/cermaic coat for four years. It had minor chips on the PPF but otherwise perfect and without the PPF it would have been the paint.
@williamelkington5430
@williamelkington5430 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Coleton. Very helpful.
@shojus
@shojus 5 ай бұрын
PPF should NEVER be sold as an "enhancement" to your vehicle! It's a barrier to protect your factory paint so that you can resell and hopefully recoup the cost of the PPF. For me, I don't drive on the highway much and don't follow close to cars ahead of me. I see people getting PPF on a Nissan Sentra, and for me that's just throwing your money away! If you have a very expensive car, get some PPF to protect your car from losing its value even more than it already will.
@LifeLongLearner-om8jx
@LifeLongLearner-om8jx 5 ай бұрын
My rule of thumb for PPF is if the cost of the PPF is >10% of the cost of the car then it makes no sense whatsoever (with a few exceptions).
@stuffhappens5681
@stuffhappens5681 4 ай бұрын
100%
@Dejan_23Unlimited
@Dejan_23Unlimited 4 ай бұрын
Really
@thrillhax
@thrillhax 5 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on ceramic on top of PPF? My Detailer did that for my install and my PPF still looks like it’s brand new from a year ago. Granted we don’t have as many bugs and I hand wash every weekend.
@JamboneMan
@JamboneMan 4 ай бұрын
I did the same on my Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe Summit Reserve. It looks amazing and so easy to maintain. They key to PPF really comes down to the installer. I only did partial PPF and the installer spent about 12 hours custom printing and cutting in a mobile lab at my house. He is a high experienced installer. I spent a week or so preparing the surfaces and this was before the car was driven after purchase. Make sure you find a very, very good experienced installer otherwise walk away...
@TheDrivenDave
@TheDrivenDave 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, Coleton. I’ve had mixed feelings about not getting PPF for my car, but this makes me relieved I didn’t get it! I had no idea there were so many downsides. Hope to see you again soon!
@DogDongDotCom
@DogDongDotCom 5 ай бұрын
Here is a quick video summary for those who don't have time to view the entire thing. Classic or High End Car = Get PPF Any Tesla (even plaid) = Get PPF if you like wasting more money, even though you think you are saving on not purchasing gas. Like and Subscribe.
@Henry_Jr_Watsson
@Henry_Jr_Watsson 4 ай бұрын
@@DogDongDotCom Just get coloured PPF as a cool wrap ;) Now you have a fancy color AND it's PPF'd. Just wash it regularly and it won't get damaged by regular wear and tear.
@rickhunter6513
@rickhunter6513 3 ай бұрын
I bought a black c5z06 several years ago and the first thing I did was PPF the front, hood and side mirror housings. For a black car you care about, I think PPF is very beneficial because black shows EVERYTHING
@jameslee2738
@jameslee2738 2 ай бұрын
Except that with a black car all the scratches and abrasions in th PPF now look like white blemishes... I know I have one with PPF... never again@@rickhunter6513
@teamgartz-motorsports6881
@teamgartz-motorsports6881 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you. I only have done PPF on my cars that are 100k+, there is no reason to do in a beater. And a good PPF starts at 5k, and needs to be replaced every few years to not look garbage. But it will protect from rock chips and bird poop, the PPF might fade but the painting underneath won’t. A good PPF shop will do paint correction before applying the PPF and then after to make sure it looks neat.
@teamgartz-motorsports6881
@teamgartz-motorsports6881 Ай бұрын
@japanwatchconnection it’s just s matter of finance. A paint that costs 1k to fix a panel of the car, in a car that will be beat up, there is no reason to spend 3k protecting it. I let it get beat up and repaint it. A car that costs 10k to 20k to repaint, it worths a PPF expense of 5k to keep the original painting as those cars usually have multi-layer painting that is quite expensive. It’s not about being elitist, just smart about how to spend the money. Of course if your car is special and you love how it looks with PPF and that gives you a good feeling and you can spend. Go ahead. Tho I have 10k cars either fade out painting that I couldn’t care less, as far as I can have fun with it driving around. And others that I want to preserver the painting and it will be more expensive to fix than protect.
@timmietz
@timmietz 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don’t think so. Very strange viewpoint in my humble opinion. I own about 40 cars and almost all of them have some PPF and I probably have about 10 cars that I have full PF on them. The proper way to protect a new car is Pain correction, then, PPF, then ceramic coating over the PPF. In the last seven or so years, I’ve used three different shops. One of them does amazing work every time, the other two, it depends on who did the job as far as the technician himself. That new EXPEL thicker film is awesome. Also, the matte film is terrific in my opinion. My matte paint cars I don’t even drive at all until they are PPFed. As far as staining, yes, I have had one year old PPF redone twice. Both times it had to do with the fact that the car sat in the sun with sapp stains on the PPF. And, regardless of what it is, older, film, seven years plus old, will need to be replaced if you drive the car at all. I am a big fan of ceramic coating, but only if it goes on top of the PPF. Lastly, the worstPPF that I have seen both from the application technique perspective as well as the quality of the film itself, is Factory PPF on the newer Porsches.
@Chomperoni23
@Chomperoni23 3 ай бұрын
I agree with you 💯
@zacklewis342
@zacklewis342 2 ай бұрын
So, pay multiple thousands of dollars and waste loads of your valuable time instead of just maintaining your paint with regular washes and garaging? Even if you have a paint issue, it will probably be minor and cost way less than all of this nonsense.
@shnerp
@shnerp 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. As a person who had a bad PPf experience, I thought Id comment. If you are going to get PPF, make sure you get it installed by a professional and insist on seeing some of thier work in person before giving them any of your money. My first experience was through a shop with 5 star ratings, but i never had a chance to see any of thier PPF work. The end result was an install with all the flaws Coleton shows, along with knife cuts into the paint! PPF was removed by another shop and most, but not all of the knife cuts could be polished out. Not a good start for a brand new vehicle. In the future, only paint correction and ceramic coatings for me.
@zuvin2350
@zuvin2350 4 ай бұрын
My exact same experience. And my exact same conclusion
@znemo5275
@znemo5275 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your video. It helped me so much to understand the PRO/CON of PPF. Really appreciate the truth you shared here.
@alexstealth27
@alexstealth27 24 күн бұрын
Great video. Answered so many of my questions. Great content!! So happy I can make an informed decision now and not regret it down the road by not having had someone explain everything to me as you have.
@greyphantome2617
@greyphantome2617 2 күн бұрын
Been using PPF over the past 20 years in all my cars. PPF is not for everyone. If you’re willing to take care of it then it has its place. Definitely payed off for me and it’s a must for those who’re willing to go the extra mile in taking care of their cars. To begin with the job must be done well, then it’s all about taking care of it, such as hand washing washing at home, there are special techniques washing ppfd cars, don’t cross over edges etc , seal the edges either waxes , etc
@yuvalkapellner2551
@yuvalkapellner2551 3 ай бұрын
My car is fully ppf'ed. Aside the roof which doesn't count because it is a tesla and it is just glass. I was involved in an accident that was not fatal, Another car just scrapped through my right rear door down to the wheel arch and bumber. The whole area was heavily scuffed and a dent was created at the wheel arch area. The ppf saved my car paint and clearcoat. It protected it. My installer removed it and it was again like new. I had pdr done on the dented area and new ppf was installed instead of the one that was ruined on the door and back right side again. This car is white pearl. If i had to repaint and keep it look like new, it would end up repainting the whole right side of the car or otherwise it wouldn't be perfect color blending. So ppf was worth it to me. Car also looks much glossier than without it so it shines alot more. The ppf is self healing so any minor scratches just dissappear under the warm sun and the shine level remains high.
@davepaturno4290
@davepaturno4290 15 күн бұрын
Much depends upon where you drive, how much traffic, how many miles, frequency of sun exposure, season of year, etc. I have STEK PPF for my 2024 Supra. My previous and other car have lots of chip voids. Unless you are a paint correction specialist, they really stand out when the paint primer is white. That's why I chose PPF. I hate the chip void look.
@wheresthepictureidk2817
@wheresthepictureidk2817 5 ай бұрын
Do you think fixing rock chips after couple year period looks better and is cheaper than having ppf and replacing it after the same time period?
@ZackScriven
@ZackScriven 5 ай бұрын
PPF will look better.
@ak-iy4yb
@ak-iy4yb 4 ай бұрын
Define better. Better in price? Better in look? Most chips are in the bumper and hood. If you really want paint protection, the smartest move is to get PPF in the bumper and hood only. Possibly lower side of vehicle as well.@@ZackScriven
@ZackScriven
@ZackScriven 4 ай бұрын
@@ak-iy4yb better in way it looks. That’s why I said it will look better. 🤔
@jonesjones7057
@jonesjones7057 4 ай бұрын
My experience. I have an 11 year old jag xf with 125k miles on it. No PPF. At some point lately the front bumper was pretty thrashed with rock chips so I had the front bumper repainted by a shop with great reviews and it looks as good as new. It cost $900. Seems better to just save the money and repaint after a few years than PPF. As this guy said, if I had a super car that would be different, but a typical car, dont think so.
@mastrasport
@mastrasport 3 ай бұрын
@@jonesjones7057 I have exactly the same experience. To be honest even if I have to repaint my front even 2-3 years it would still be cheaper that PPF. Also I would never be convince that PPF will look as new after years, you can never prevent peel offs and dust collection at the edges.
@whereisthedollar
@whereisthedollar 5 ай бұрын
Thank You, for someone in the industry finally stating the whole truth about PPF. I've seen some pretty bad work out there where you can tell by just seeing the edges. On some it would have been better too just have an new paint job. Also, PPF doesn't last forever.
@executiveinvestments
@executiveinvestments 2 ай бұрын
PPF lasts way longer than most people keep their cars. So whats the problem?
@alairys
@alairys 3 күн бұрын
Thank you so so much for this video honestly you helped me save so much ! Grateful for people like you that are honest !!!! We need more in this world !!
@RoguePainter
@RoguePainter 5 ай бұрын
I get what your saying but for me the PPF has 100% done its job. its taken the damage and protected his paint. when he wants to sell it just pull off the PPF and his paint will 100% be in better condition than if he didn't have the PPF
@lagunamusic7686
@lagunamusic7686 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, what’s your opinion on ceramic coating?
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 4 ай бұрын
I had PPF put on my CX5 gloss black plastic door pillars. The plastic is ridiculously soft so it needed some way of helping stop scratching. The PPF does help prevent lots of micro scratches but PPF is itself prone to scratching that won’t self heal. It’s only the micro scratches that self heal.
@cheahkaimun1
@cheahkaimun1 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. It does help to prevent scratches from my neighbours 5:11 cats which like to lying on my car. Prevent many stone chips whenever following truck with load of stones or sand…..
@steveanderson5226
@steveanderson5226 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honest opinion! I love this channel and all the insight that you bring to bear :)
@z-prodidsanziiprod6090
@z-prodidsanziiprod6090 Ай бұрын
That totally depends on different people. Some people don't care about minor scratches or swirls since they think the car is the car, not a big deal, and the PPF is just a massive waste of money for them. For others who have a slight OCD or seek a perfect condition for the car, then the PPF is 100% worthy. Personally, on the day I picked up my new car, I thought the PPF is just too expensive to get one, but after a few months, I still choose to have the front end covered with PPF, however, at that time, there's already some chips on the hood. My suggestion is, if you are a person who likes everything to be tidy and clean, then don't hesitate to get the PPF on the day u pick up the new car.👍
@zachc9551
@zachc9551 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2021 Mazda cx-9. I have PPF on my car since new from rock guard films on the east coast in Pennsylvania and have no problem or issues like this. Looks great since day one. It goes to my detailer about every 6-8 month for maintenance washes. I also have a ceramic coating and they say the car and ppf is great.
@johnqcitizen9177
@johnqcitizen9177 5 ай бұрын
Amen Brother. As far as rock chips I’ve driven over 1000 miles driving on vacation to Tennessee the last 5 years and do you know how many rock chips I have on my Tesla ? 0 Because I don’t tailgate, I try to stay ahead in traffic in the left lane and third I stay back when people are changing lanes because that is when the rocks start flying. Safe travels.
@porkchopsandwiches8363
@porkchopsandwiches8363 3 ай бұрын
Good luck doing that in an urban area, impossible up in the northeast PPF isn’t perfect but when you’re driving through the equivalent of a sandblaster in the winter it’s better than nothing
@prettysweetchaos8730
@prettysweetchaos8730 3 ай бұрын
That’s interesting and good to know
@neoanderson7
@neoanderson7 3 ай бұрын
Well yes, anyone who has any thought would know that PPF is meant to be another layer of protection. Nothing protects 100%. So people are coming in and complaining that 6 month of heavy road use and there's wear on the PPF??? Well yeah, that's going to happen. However, if it was installed properly (which in this case wasn't), its still going to look better than not having it there at all. Imagine all the hard chips the paint would've suffered on the car already.. I can see why some installers would stop offering it because the last thing you want is someone coming back and complaining the stuff doesn't work. Or wants to replace everything without paying for it (which of course is the situation 99% of the time is going to happen). I still think installing PPF is a good way to go if you're worried about resale value or want to protect your "forever car". Would I put it on a daily driver or a leased vehicle? If the daily driver is a desirable brand or costs upwards of 70G's+, then yeah, I'd probably want too. On a leased vehicle?? No. I find it especially helpful to avoid all those swirl marks and blemishes that accumulate over time. I personally never put the car thru any car washes, but for those who want to quickly make it look "shiny", PPF goes a long way. Especially with its self healing properties.
@uncrownedking5106
@uncrownedking5106 2 күн бұрын
PPF saved my paint and headlight. I was just leaving a car wash which had a narrow exit and i was not used to the long hood of my new car. I ended up scratching the side of the exit and did not notice until i parked somewhere else. There were huge but superficial scratch marks on the right fender and headlights. I was so annoyed all the way until i went home. Luckily, I had PPF on the whole body, and i was thinking of giving my PPF installer a visit to change the PPF in the affected area. Before i went to him, I said if im going to change it anyway, why don't i experiment with it a little. First thing i tried was rubbing it with alcohol swap, and the scratch marks disappeared like magic! It left minor scratches from the rubbing, which healed by itself the next day after being exposed to the sun!
@Meltdown900cc
@Meltdown900cc 2 ай бұрын
I traded in a red BMW that was not PPF and I lost a lot of money cause of the rock chips expose the white primer underneath . Since then -I had my last three cars PPF and no rock chips or bug marks.
@VgAce135
@VgAce135 5 ай бұрын
So your rationale for not getting PPF is because it leaves a mark on the PPF when there is a rock chip? Do you not understand what happens when a rock hits your car? It chips the paint. On my previous car that did not have PPF I had so many rock chips. I would go over it with touch up paint, which would cost money, but it was never that good of a job. PPF would have protected my paint. It is not perfect, but PPF is better than nothing. And the dealership that I got it installed at gave me a 10 year warranty on the PPF. Even if I trade in the car, it will be worth more with having PPF installed. Hard to say that is not worth it.
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 Ай бұрын
Most dealers hardly look at a car when they give it a value for trade in. They look it over once, maybe drive it, and give a value. Your 2-3k in film isn’t going to make them give you more. I traded in a car with 100s of rock chips up front and got more a little more than trade in value was, and I didn’t spend 3 grand on film
@VgAce135
@VgAce135 Ай бұрын
@@19hundoc47 Remind me never to buy a car that you have driven then. Sounds like you don't take care of them at all.
@dieselsyndrome1755
@dieselsyndrome1755 17 күн бұрын
I had 3 vehicles done with ppf. Never again. This guy is spot on in his video. I'd rather fix some paint chips. I don't have any on my 3 MBs and together I have over 600k on them. They still look far better than any car I had with ppf after 2 years. Just my opinion
@VgAce135
@VgAce135 17 күн бұрын
@@19hundoc47 If you don't take of your cars then that's on you. So I will definitely not be buying any car you have ever driven. No clue why this concept is so hard for you to understand in that it took you a month you reply to my comment. But you do you, buddy.
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 17 күн бұрын
@@VgAce135 whatever you say troll boy, stay mad
@dahnejaygomez
@dahnejaygomez 2 ай бұрын
Thank yoy! Good thing I saw your vid. I nearly had my daily driven crv done as I get unwanted scratches and bugs stains and got tired of cleaning it off every weekend thinking that ppf will help.
@Totyroby
@Totyroby 3 ай бұрын
Funny thing I discovered about PPF: I polished the headlights on an Aston Martin, and when I put the PPF on them, I realized it ALREADY HAD PPF. That's on me, but it proves to show PPF can be buffed/ polished and made look like new...at least on headlights.
@panagiotis-fz7lz
@panagiotis-fz7lz 17 күн бұрын
I just bought a new 2023 subaru brz and I'm thinking of putting ppf on it. Are they going to take the parts out of my car? I have no confidence that they will put them back as they were in my country. What do you recommend?
@georgevavoulis4758
@georgevavoulis4758 3 ай бұрын
Should I get PPF if I live in extreme weather like Northern US and Canada and we get road salt etc .?
@DouglasJMark
@DouglasJMark Ай бұрын
Got Xpel PPF on our 2022 Model Y. I finally got around to hand-washing it this week (no-touch washes leave a greyish dirt film). Car looks like new. Better yet, the PPF makes the paint look like it has 20 layers of clear coat on it. PS Bug spots are harder to get off (ceramic coating helped). I'll have a closer look for PPF damage and for big rock chips too. Thanks Coleton! Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤
@agottschalk10
@agottschalk10 3 ай бұрын
What would you recommend for this scenario: I am getting a new Model Y in black, and want to make it Satin/Matte Black. Do I do xpel stealth PPF ($4,300) or a satin black vinyl wrap ($4,000). would the vinyl do better with bugs, and rock chips --would the thinner vinyl not have as noticable indents? appreciate any insight you have. I am mostly wanting the color to change to satin/matte and like the little added protection from rocks chipping paint. Maybe even eliminate the need for mudflaps?
@BMWSEXFIFTYDROP
@BMWSEXFIFTYDROP 3 ай бұрын
I did a full ppf with ceramic coating on a 2021 911 Carrera week #1 after taking delivery. Best investment I’ve ever made. Choose the right installer. That means everything. Don’t cheat yourself. I chose Xplel and the 5 year ceramic. I opted for the glossy clear opposed to the matte finish. Personally I feel like the matte finish is so common these days, especially on the black Tesla model Y. I literally see them everywhere. If you want to look like everyone else, go ahead. As far as bird droppings and bugs, you have to use a quick detailing spray and remove them soon as you see them. That’s the key. Final thought, go with the ppf, you won’t have the swirls and the film is self repairing. My car is 3 years in and still looks fantastic. The PPF was worth every penny.
@autowerkesexclusive
@autowerkesexclusive Ай бұрын
PPf and vinyl are two completely different animals. Vinyl is 3.5-4 mils thick whereas ppf is typically 8. Top vinyls are warrantied for 4-5 years and ppf is typically warrantied 8-10. The upside is full vinyl wraps are quite a bit less expensive. Although vinyl will help reduce damage from sand and grit, it will not protect against anything much bigger. On a model Y we typically do the full front and full rear doors. The rear doors flare out and are very susceptible to damage from grit thrown up by the front tires. Film is expensive, but still cheaper than a good paint job.
@ssoffshore5111
@ssoffshore5111 Ай бұрын
I mfg both cast vinyl and ppf. Urethane is WAY tougher than vinyl, even at the same thickness. Personally, I'd never waste my money on vinyl. If I wanted a printed or color changing wrap, I'd do it with urethane, not cast vinyl.
@postridebeers
@postridebeers 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. Exactly the video I needed to see
@joelupetz5157
@joelupetz5157 2 ай бұрын
What if we put ceramic coating on top of PPF? Would it solve the issues you pointed out aside from a poor application by the detailer?
@L3AF
@L3AF 9 күн бұрын
is vynil or any other type of wrap better? like if u wrap ur whole ass car a different colour wont that help out this issue but also help out preserving the original paint ?
@pituq129
@pituq129 3 ай бұрын
Do you recommended ceramic coating rims ?
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 2 ай бұрын
So what do you suggest people do to protect their paint? PPS? Nothing at all? Naked paint has its disadvantages too.
@alexanderkennedy2969
@alexanderkennedy2969 4 ай бұрын
PPF is awesome ive been using it for years. literally preserves everything its installed on. bought new headlamps for my car in 2015, put X-pel PPF on it and they still look brand new 9 years later, sounds like this guy is losing money on other services because PPF is preventing other issues that need other types of paint correction
@mastrasport
@mastrasport 3 ай бұрын
Headlamps is not like having your whole car wrapped in it, this is plastic and it is essential to wrap it to protect the material from sun etc. I am also very happy with the PPF on my headlights, but would never put it on painted details.
@alexanderkennedy2969
@alexanderkennedy2969 3 ай бұрын
@@mastrasport i used the headlamp example just to show why i decided to recently have 2 cars wrapped with full front X-PEL PPF....i do highway driving and i drive fast, ill take the risk with PPF...its better than having stone chips all over the front of a 60K dollar car. PPF has been out for years and years, if it was bad people still wouldnt be wrapping their cars with it...in fact X-PEL has released other versions of it (colored, matte and satin finishes) if anything the practice is getting more popular and expanding. not to mention the practice of wrapping cars in vinyl wrap in order to do color changes etc
@mastrasport
@mastrasport 3 ай бұрын
​@@alexanderkennedy2969 That is great, however I still believe it is not a universal solution. My car has 60k miles and I have only a couple of stone chips on the hood (unnoticable). I can get it repainted by inaurance at no cost and good as new in a couple of days. The PPF is also damaged by chips, although less. Over time I would imagine it will still look awful and need to be replaced and that will cost a lot.
@ironcross420
@ironcross420 Ай бұрын
What about using on a Snap-On Black Powder Coated Toolbox? PPF or Coatings?
@SANTIAGOSANCHEZ-yw3pd
@SANTIAGOSANCHEZ-yw3pd 3 ай бұрын
So is paint correction a better option once you get rock chips?
@jesurunsounds
@jesurunsounds 4 ай бұрын
what does paint correction mean at the end of the video? i have a new 24 truck what should I do? ceramic coat it?
@ragweedmakesmesneeze
@ragweedmakesmesneeze 3 ай бұрын
Paint correction is a process where they use a polishing machine to take off a thin layer of the car's clear coat leaving a smooth, swirl and scratch-free surface again. Deeper scratches that get down past the clear coat levels cannot be "corrected" in this manner. A lot of people think that a new car's paint will be perfect, but that's not always the case. A good shop that does paint correction and PPF installation will typically do a paint correction even on a new car before putting on the PPF. Remember, even if the paint was perfect the second it left the factory, it has to travel on the open road to the dealership, dealers will typically wash the car and they don't hire expert detailers to do their washes, if you know what I mean. So even a "brand new" car can come with scratches and swirls. It all depends on how much you care about your car's finish being "perfect." I was quoted, from Chicago Auto Pros (a well known/respected shop) $800 for a paint correction and another $800 for ceramic coating recently. Ceramic coating will NOT protect from stone chips at all.
@Supercruze
@Supercruze Ай бұрын
It is nice to hear your opinion and I learned a few things about what makes a good or bad PPF install. I have put PPF on my vehicles for years thinking it is the best protection from rock chips in the long run, but I have discovered like you point out that some rocks can get through and damage the paint anyway. The other dirty secret with PPF is that it needs to be replaced on a routine basis. It is not install it for the life of the vehicle. I have an 09 Corvette Z06 that came with PPF installed on the front section. That PPF is now starting to dry out and check in places and will need to be removed at great expense. I have decided to forgo PPF on my newest vehicle purchase.
@Simon23m
@Simon23m 24 күн бұрын
Just curious on the alternative? Apart from expensive and super cars what you think people should do instead of PPF?
@visualaxingofficial
@visualaxingofficial 3 ай бұрын
I’d rather have bug stains that can only be seen when 6 inches away from it than rock chip I can see from 6 feet away. PPF for the win and for me.
@vo2098
@vo2098 Ай бұрын
How do you prevent those marks under the film from happening? Are those from over stretching? Dirty water?
@paolotiglao
@paolotiglao 3 ай бұрын
had mine on 3yrs and counting, and i live in a tropical country. no problems. no peeling. ppf looks good still.
@stephenbrader5785
@stephenbrader5785 Ай бұрын
What do you think of Expel Trac wrap I use when taking long road trips and put on then take off so far no issues I do have ceramic coating on my Model 3 Lp 2021
@OutofSpecDetailing
@OutofSpecDetailing Ай бұрын
Love the idea!
@myname2263
@myname2263 4 ай бұрын
If you add ceramic coating to the PPF does it still have the same bug stains ?
@chrisbradley3224
@chrisbradley3224 3 ай бұрын
I have had PPF for 2.5 years on my car and I have no bug stains at all. Not one. I keep the car pretty clean and with spray sealant though.
@rkgsd
@rkgsd 4 ай бұрын
The tradeoff of having protection from scratches, parking lot idiots and stone chips makes the film still worth it. I wouldn't replace the PPF because of a few bug stains and rock chips.
@patrickbateman9887
@patrickbateman9887 5 ай бұрын
I have two cars that I'm going to get aftermarket painted. I intend to then get PPF because in my experience aftermarket paint isn't as strong (they don't have the $500M ovens Lexus has) and chips much easier. I'd much prefer the defects you've shown to the number of chips I've gotten on aftermarket paint. My real concern is will removing and replacing it someday take the paint off with it. Thoughts anyone?
@autowerkesexclusive
@autowerkesexclusive Ай бұрын
If the prep work done by the body shop was on point and heat ( such as steam ) is used during the removal process, you should be fine.
@lemmuhj
@lemmuhj 5 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 Sierra AT 4 and i plan on keeping it forever..to me, i could care less if the ppf is absolutely perfect on the edges...i just want it to protect against chips from rocks...the bug issue is worrisome because it seems that it could actually look worse over say, 3 yrs than if it didnt have it..i need that somewhat rock protection though
@stuffhappens5681
@stuffhappens5681 4 ай бұрын
I drove to work on the highway about a half our each way. I live in an industrial city (although nowhere near as industrial as it used to be) so there are a fair share of trucks of all types. Add to that road salt and the fact that the roadway is full of debris each Spring, so if you’re like me and like to keep your car as detailed as possible under adverse conditions then I can see the use case for PPF. After I retired and only do local driving I peeled it off my GTI and must admit it mostly did its job. But regardless of paint protection a top tip is to always install it on your headlight lenses. If you do they’ll never yellow or haze over from harmful UV rays.
@justinsugay1149
@justinsugay1149 2 ай бұрын
I feel your passion for what you do. This was very helpful. Thank you!
@broderp
@broderp 4 ай бұрын
You made me want PPF after watching this video. If it gets damaged and saves the paint, then fine. You failed to provide a better alternative, and something is better than nothing. It sounds to me that if your story is true, then the owner of that car didn't clean it often enough and let the bugs damage the PPF. You t h en criticized people who care about protecting their car. Nice.
@iSmokey-fq1kb
@iSmokey-fq1kb 6 күн бұрын
So did u get it or was this all talk?
@Evanraylaw
@Evanraylaw Ай бұрын
If I do a decent job of getting the bugs off quickly without letting it sit, won’t it decrease the staining?
@ericHHII
@ericHHII Ай бұрын
What happened to carnauba wax being the “sacrificial layer”?
@TheodoreRavindranath
@TheodoreRavindranath 7 күн бұрын
I think your point is that PPF starts looking bad fast, and it has to be replaced often if you want the car to continue looking good. If you do replace it often, it becomes costlier than fixing the paint. If you don't replace PPF often, you are driving around a worse-looking car because PPF looks worse sooner than the paint would have if exposed to equally harsh environment. I think I can agree with that. I saw someone saying that PPF is ok on super expensive cars that are driven infrequently, where retaining the original paint is very important. For affordable cars, PPF may leave you driving around a bad-looking car. You would spend less if you leave it on exposed paint, and then do detailing on a regular basis. Maybe one drawback with paint though is that one really bad day could mess up your paint?
@ItsameBS
@ItsameBS 3 күн бұрын
On my ppf with ceramic on my Model Y the bugs just got stuck and came off easy. Not sure if that matters.
@pamfox1601
@pamfox1601 Ай бұрын
TRUELY APPRECIATE THIS MOST VALUABLE & INFORMATIVE INFORMATION U TOOK YOUR TIME 2 SHARE this with us. I was contemplating having the " rest" if my brand new FORESTER PPF'd ......HOWEVER THANKS 2 YOUR video i am just going have the ceramic coating applied & CARE 4 MY FIRST NEW CAR as it should B...& hand wash, double buckets & IF I need a car wash once in awhile....BRUSHLESS 😮 THANK U SO MUCH 4 YOUR TIME & CONSIDERATION in making this video 4 all of us who really want ti know IF its worth it 😮 I WISH I wud have seen it B4 I had the front of my car, fenders, & pillars done with PPF.... I live in the PNW ...no garage & i truely WANTED the BEST PROTECTION 👌
@jacobpetersen5662
@jacobpetersen5662 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE PPF for a partial hood. I have 2 cars that are 7 years old and their hoods are 100% free of rock chips. I don't love it for bugs, and that's why I only do a partial hood. It has never faded and looks as new as when I installed it 7 years ago.
@PhiCongDoan7587
@PhiCongDoan7587 4 ай бұрын
What about xpel windshield protector? Would you recommend that at all? I was looking to install it on a winshield.
@jasonsong86
@jasonsong86 4 ай бұрын
Unless it's on a car that never sees rain, the film is soft and it will get scratched up by the wiper and dirt.
@PhiCongDoan7587
@PhiCongDoan7587 4 ай бұрын
@jasonsong86 good point!
@gassman55
@gassman55 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2021 E450 wagon with 12K miles on it. 99% perfect and I am considering a front wrap (PPF). I am planning a cross country trip in a few months and think this may still be worth it, I agree that this isn't the time to cut costs. However with only reviews to go on how do you really know the skill level of the installer. I guess I could verbally ask for the "best" installer after asking a lot of questions showing interest in detail. I will move forward but if you were traveling across country 2700 miles does that sway you to get it? BTW: I plan on holding the car barring mechanical issues for 6-10 years.
@RobertKeenanComp-U-Right
@RobertKeenanComp-U-Right 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for helping me with my decision.👍
@tjuan7
@tjuan7 2 ай бұрын
I was actually looking into getting this done on my new car. Just saved me a lot of money. Thanks.
@CENSOREDFORSPEAKINGTRUTHS4380
@CENSOREDFORSPEAKINGTRUTHS4380 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t wrapping it be better than ppf or are they both the same thing ?
@allann7333
@allann7333 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the breakdown.
@whatsupwithsteve
@whatsupwithsteve 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great review! I just bought a GLE AMG63s and of course want to do the best thing to keep it looking good. But I thought back over all the cars I have owned and realized that while they did get a few rock chips, other than that they looked just fine as I hand wash and wax(nano-coat) them myself. Your video confirmed that I made the right decision to save thousands of dollars on PPG.
@whatsupwithsteve
@whatsupwithsteve 3 ай бұрын
@@japanwatchconnection It's a car, not jewelry. Touchup paint works just fine if applied the right way..:)
@Dawood4
@Dawood4 Ай бұрын
Exactly, unless your car is a literal showpiece you are trying to preserve, it will literally be cheaper just to repaint the whole car. PPF on the entire car would cost close to 10,000. You can get an amazing paint job for a third of that. We're never gonna make up the resale value in a few rock chips by spending thousands on PPF
@southbayproducts5371
@southbayproducts5371 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir. Great info
@mattlozano599
@mattlozano599 2 ай бұрын
A question I had is does it protect the clear coat from getting baked in the sun? I have been hearing about thin clear coats peeling up after a 5 years or so so wondering if the PPF would add life to those situations?
@ssoffshore5111
@ssoffshore5111 Ай бұрын
Yes, it does, it's a UV inhibitor as well.
@willminor1
@willminor1 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the heads up brother ! very informative
@roadracerqx893
@roadracerqx893 3 ай бұрын
Rock chips and bug splatter ruin PPF, but isn’t that what it’s for? So what’s the alternative wrap film for a color change on a daily driver ?
@SoCalVipers
@SoCalVipers 4 күн бұрын
This is a really insightful video. I had my last car for about a year and it had full PPF. For me, the benefit is that it always looked good. There were far fewer rock chips than if it didn't have PPF, and I felt safe taking it to a drive through carwash once or twice a week and it never got swirl marks. My current car, a Tesla Plaid, has had PPF for almost a year, and it still looks new. Tesla paint isn't very nice, but the PPF seems to make it more glossy - as if it was just waxed. When I'm on a road trip, and the front is plastered with bugs, I use a gas station squeegee not just for the windshield, but also to scrub the bugs off the front. Since I have PPF, I don't worry about scratching it. I will reserve my final opinion until after 3 or 4 years. Then I'll know if the PPF looks terrible or not. Maybe it's cheaper to just repaint the front end every three years. But for now, full PPF has been a pretty awesome luxury.
@bristheemufanpage
@bristheemufanpage 10 сағат бұрын
Hell yea ima install some on my carbon fiber hood
@jasonblair4057
@jasonblair4057 4 ай бұрын
This video for has come at a great time. I am looking to have my model y front end ppf and the car ceramic coated. Since it’s a daily driver I think doing the ceramic coat only will be a better value. I do plan on driving this car into ground as they say.
@m.newman7722
@m.newman7722 3 ай бұрын
I was interested in what you thought. I have a 2020 Lexus RC350 F-Sport with factory PPF on the front of the car and 25% of the hood. After 47,000 miles of about 75% freeway driving, and after careful inspection, I have 2 small slightly noticeable defects in the PPF, the edges have not lifted and the car is left outside 100%. My prior vehicle was full of paint chips throughout the front bumper and hood without PPF, and thus I am very pleased with the PPF purchase which was about $600 from the factory. Obviously who installs the PPF and the manufacture of the PPF may play a role in the final visual aspects of the film after years of higher speed driving.
@jasonsong86
@jasonsong86 4 ай бұрын
I have had bugs that would swell and even stain paint but it goes away after being baked in the hot sun for a day or two. The way I look at cars is that unless it's collectable just drive the car, it won't make a difference when you go trade it in. Also a lot of times, if the paint is not perfect on a car, it will damage the paint than not having it.
@simon84
@simon84 11 күн бұрын
Super helpful, thx
@B14CK_H4WK
@B14CK_H4WK 2 ай бұрын
I've never had issues of bug stains on my PPF, I have the 3M film on the entire car though maybe it's an xpel issue?
@kevindhouck
@kevindhouck Ай бұрын
I really, really appreciate your HONEST opinion about PPF. I was on the fence about spending that kind of money on something that I really wasn’t sure about but you have convinced me that it’s not worth it. I realize that this video will upset some PPF installers, but people need to see the pros and cons with it and that it’s not a perfect product. Thank you again I really enjoyed your video. I’m just going to have it ceramic coated, and call it a day.
@M.D.MobileDetailing
@M.D.MobileDetailing 29 күн бұрын
How are bugs etching a ceramic coated PPF? The ceramic coating should be more than enough to chemically resist the acidic bug splats... This is why I always provide aftercare instructions to my clients I've ceramic coated. Wash every 2 weeks and treat harsh contaminants like bugs, bird droppings and water spots quickly. Great way to pitch a maintenance plan with a client as well.
@Near2Future
@Near2Future 2 ай бұрын
I use halo v2 for my wrap, decals ppf ect. It's a flexable ceramic coating for your ppf ect. It's great honestly!
@ak-iy4yb
@ak-iy4yb 4 ай бұрын
Putting PPF really depends on what you value in your car. I buy mostly a few year old cars. And most of potential buys i look at come with rock chips here and there. Do I notice it in pictures online? Hell no. Do I notice them in person as I walk up to the car? Hell no. Unless I keep telling myself to look for rock chips, they are hardly ever visible to the eyes. Both of my cars have rock chips and it kills me every time I notice them when I wash them. Still to this date, I say to myself "I should've corrected paint and wrapped it with PPF" whenever I see the chips although I never do it. Most are very small. 2 of them in 1 car are a little too big to my liking. I'm still talking less than 3mm rock chips. So what do you do? You can touch up the paint as needed. In however many years, when you can't take it anymore, you have the whole panel painted. To me, that's the smartest move. What do I do? I sometimes touch up. Most of the times I leave them alone. To touch up yourself, you will have to sand the peeling paint around the chips a bit (no need of this for small dots). That will inevitably make the correction area bigger. Can you just slap some paint on it and call it a day? Of course you can. But I guarantee you you're gonna hate yourself. Hence I rarely do it. Again, it really depends on how perfect you want your car to be, whether to sell or to just satisfy yourself, even though no one will notice your rock chips. If the car is sold at or under 30-40k brand new, depreciation will bring down the value by half depending on model and brand in a few years. Now you're talking 15-20k to sell. Would somebody pay you a few thousands more just because you have PPF and your car has no rock chips? Hell no. So it's not worth it. Just like no one will notice your rock chips, no one will give out more money only because you have already barely noticeable rock chips. Does it change if the car's value is over a certain point? Maybe. Like any other businesses, high end products drag in finicky buyers. For me, even though I'm considering cars well over 150k, I wouldn't care too much over some rock chips. I might talk to the seller down on price for paint correction if it's bad. If the car is worth over 150k though, discounting 1000 bucks is not really hard. If it's 20k car, yeah you are out of luck.
@attisthecat
@attisthecat 4 ай бұрын
My previous Tesla had PPF from day 1, for 3 years. PPF still looked fine to me. But of course does not increase value of car at all. When i sold it, nobody cared i saved the paid from a couple rock chips. So $2,000 for .... some peace of mind. All that said I am still getting PPF on my new Tesla Y. The difference this time is I bought a kit, and pre-cut pieces from TESBROS. Doing myself keeps cost down, and helps me justify the cost benefit. I think i will always have bumper, and rocker panels covered. Especially if I am successful in putting this stuff on myself.
@DeltaCharlie27
@DeltaCharlie27 4 ай бұрын
let us know how it goes. i’ve done some ppf on bikes and small parts with decent luck. large curvy parts are i think much more difficult.
@ngdanskraal2227
@ngdanskraal2227 3 ай бұрын
I live in SA. I ppf my car at a reputable car detailer. I had done a roadtrip of mote than 4000 km's. No problems. Any bugs I just wiped them off at the end of the day. I had my second car done. No problem. I only did the front part because of lack of funds. It's only ordinary cars but it was the best decision. Perhaps thete are fitters and fitters.
@PaniczAdam
@PaniczAdam 3 ай бұрын
I have my car PPFed and I am super happy about it. My PPF is self-healing and you can scratch it with a fork and after a couple of sunny hours, it looks perfect again.
@IndyAvocadoKid
@IndyAvocadoKid 7 күн бұрын
Oh, you have the new self healing type of PPF, cool! One of the local shops even has a demo plate on the wall where you can scratch up the gloss black plate with a wire brush then blow dry it with a hair dryer, scratches just disappear like magic. And like you say sunny places can heat up the hood enough to fix up scratches too….pretty neat stuff!😊
@topwrapzltd
@topwrapzltd 4 ай бұрын
Ive Been installing PPF for over a decade ...... It's not perfect , it never will be , it should be sold as a degradable protection and pros and cons clearly explained. The edges lift over time, it gets beat up as it does it's job , but its a great sacrificial layer . Is it for everyone ? No way..... I've done some installs where's theirs no patterns on old cars and In all honesty they aren't perfect , neat but certainly not perfect, average cut lines and bits you have outlined in this video , I've always explained to the customer what to expect and they can make their choice to go ahead / or not , most and are just happy the car has that hard wearing layer. The newer patterns ( 2015 onwards) are much much better but in reality I've never seen or done a perfect PPF install. It's just not possible. I try my absolute best and have won awards for my installs and still some of them as mentioned particularly on the older cars (early 2000s) with no patterns are 6/10 at best as it's a hand created product, I can't hide from that , my z4m 2006 is a definite average install , Again little to no patterns and what was available was pretty damn poor, but my pride and joy is mostly protected from top to bottom and that lets me enjoy it and I will improve it everytime a section needs swapping out. For me, I see the benefits and the pros out weight the cons. The key as an installer is to be honest and very upfront. I love the PPF product , and even the challenge to install. Very proudly a Suntek official install shop here in the UK. Good video 👍🏾
@mastrasport
@mastrasport 3 ай бұрын
Issue for me is that PPF is being sold/marketed as the perfect solution for everything and only downside being the price to afford it.
@topwrapzltd
@topwrapzltd 3 ай бұрын
@@mastrasport anyone marketing PPF as perfect is bare faced lying. It's very much imperfect. I adore the PPF sector but I'm vbrutally honest with my clients. As mentioned my old 2006 car with the early patterns is far from perfect. Wiggly lines in places where I've made hand cuts, hexagon around circles where I've had to adjust myself , but overall neat. Neat is as far as Id go. The newer car patterns are much much better but still it's definitely not perfect.
@kiplingvisintini5783
@kiplingvisintini5783 Ай бұрын
95 town car signature 34.000 miles first owner put 20000 on it in 20 years.flawless-thinking of doing front end
@sab0024
@sab0024 10 күн бұрын
@@topwrapzltdI like your honesty. That’s what I tell customers in time edges will lift up. Ive noticed it more on edges. Dirt gets in there some how
@dennissteul5445
@dennissteul5445 5 ай бұрын
Question: Does applying a ceramic coating over the PPF reduce the staining problem?
@ericsawatzky54
@ericsawatzky54 5 ай бұрын
The only way the ceramic coating will prevent staining is if you are proactive at washing your vehicle. Letting bug guts and bird droppings build up on the paint for a couple of weeks will not do anything to prevent the staining from happening.
@dennissteul5445
@dennissteul5445 5 ай бұрын
@@ericsawatzky54 Thanks.
@Paul-qe1uf
@Paul-qe1uf 5 ай бұрын
I have a friend that just had her Genesis PPFd for $7500. It has the "satin" look. To me, it always looks dirty. Does the satin PPF texture hold dirt more readily than smooth?
@jeffforbess6802
@jeffforbess6802 3 ай бұрын
$7500? That’s a paint job!
@scottc78
@scottc78 2 ай бұрын
I bought my Nardo Gray'18 Audi RS3 with Xpel Stealth PPF already installed on the whole car. Cool look. It doesn't have the same issues with bugs leaving stains like clear PPF. Makes cleaning super easy. But when there's any slight damage to the PPF there's nothing you can do besides replace it. I like it, But I didn't have to pay the $5k+ for the install.
@TazRisGifted
@TazRisGifted 4 күн бұрын
the thing with the PPF/vinyl wrap industry is still to this day, 95% of people or the general public do not know the difference between a very good job and a decent job. the adhesive marks, silvering, etc. marks youre mentioning these people will never notice. nobody is going up to the car with a magnifying glass to look at these tiny marks/imperfections. that is why these industries are striving. these companies can just keep putting out decent work and get away with it. also with PPF its ten times easier than wrap because its clear. when they install precut pieces they can just make shotty cuts to the edges and corners, whereas wrap has to fully cover the original color of the car. it is what it is, in the end like i said most of the people getting this stuff installed really dont do too much research and theyre not inspecting the car like you are because they are not a professional detailer. you care, you have OCD, you love what you do, etc. this industry will be striving for a long time, just here in the comments after you made this video some guy said it made him want to get PPF done.. lol. thats exactly what i mean. either way good video, i personally agree that most cars shouldnt even be PPF'd unless its some kind of rare or one off special car. just like you said if people are that worried they should wrap it in a bubble and keep it in their garage.
@jomarisangalang
@jomarisangalang 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your POV. I've been thinking about installing it in my car but when I saw your video I'm thinking thrice. They said there are self healing PPF, I might find a review for that.
@chloeleedow7250
@chloeleedow7250 4 ай бұрын
Do you consider it worth it to prolong or protect headlights from sun damage?
@luiscaldeira7458
@luiscaldeira7458 3 ай бұрын
I have it on my headlights about 2 years since the restauration and they look great almost as good as when i did. That said i always do proper maintenance and take care of the bugs as soon as possible so no marks so far.
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