How's the charging experience so far?

Was there a dealer markup above MSRP..??

My condolences. I'm sorry for your loss. Hopefully it wasn't for the full 35.000. Even the 28.000 for a Mexican built EV. Hopefully you have a lease

​@@cmac9710$7.500. the dealership will take the tax credit. Market adjustment $4000. $3000 for unwanted add-ons and a BS Processing fees. You are never going to see one for the advertised price.

@@1Springloaded Why? It has good range, decent charging speed, at a reasonable price

8 sec in ev standard is actually really slow, its not that its not enough for regular cruising, its just that when you need it you have it or when just want to have fun, its fun do be able to accelerate faster since ev don't have any character.

Like he said, you really need to prepare for an overtake like in a small combustion car and with an ev you shouldn't have to do that, its easy to add just a little bit more power.

6 to 8 seconds is blazingly fast in comparison to "normal" vehicles. There is zero need for better than that.

Next time you’re in a new GM EV can you show the park assist feature? And test out if the google voice command works well please

GM makes nice EVs, like Ford and Rivian. But the problem is that they're losing bucket loads of money on them. And pilling a huge battery pack on them doesn't help the cost of production. GM needs to build an EV from the ground up, improve EV production technology, like Rivian's doing, and get to scale. I'm pulling for you GM. Don't retreat.

in 2030 maybe ....

@@777Outriggerbattery tech is the biggest holdup. Expensive, heavy, with highly temperamental discharge rates. Charging speed has been the one thing that has been improving and really doesn’t scare me anymore. If they’re losing money, I’m not sure if they can even see the horizon of less expensive battery solutions.

@@777Outrigger GM is expecting to turn a profit on their EVs next year. They are ramping now and the more batteries they make the cheaper it costs.

What do you mean by “ from GM…” it’s first in those categories from ANYONE! Tough audience in America.

Bolt is a good car

The bolt EUV was better looking and cheaper

$51k for a decent spec (mostly comparable to a $48k Model Y LR) is a bit much... so maybe not arm and leg, but at least leg and mostly arm.

warth less than $20,000

I’ve been saying for years that normal acceleration is a perfect trade off for decent range. Give me a car that will go four hundred miles on a charge and I would even accept a nine second zero to sixty acceleration time. Not everyone needs a slot car but we all need to get where we’re going without stopping to charge up a few times every day just to get to work and home. We should be able to only do that once or twice a week.

First car? Yall are rich

@@MrUniq Was thinking the same...more of a hand down car after 5 years. If it still runs.

Way too expensive to give to a teen as a first car and far too large. This is like a family car!

There are many good deals on used EVs right now. ID4 is a good car.

I recently purchased a loaded 23 Bolt EUV that has an MSRP of 40K for 26K.

I'm curious why you would sell the Chevy Bolt EUV that you just bought last year? As to the equinox I think the lower trim levels are going to be the big sellers. That's probably true in the gas versions as well. You start to get into those higher trims. Why would I not just get a Tesla Model Y?

@@kens97sto171 Have you ever been in a model Y? It's like an empty shell of a car. Maybe appeals to Marie Kondo fans...

@@Chris-bg8mk Driven them several times. I definitely don't love the interior. Pretty boring... However the software side is about the best that there is. Acceleration and handling are quite good. And there's a ton of room. Don't like the door handle design on the outside. Don't like the door handle design on the inside either. You shouldn't have to explain to someone how to open a door It should be obvious. Currently drive a bolt Ev . Got a great deal on that, and it makes an excellent rideshare car. I have put 33,000 mi on it and 7 months. When I was buying that weren't any good deals on Tesla's at the time. I was making the choice today probably would pick a used model 3 from Hertz. You can get some pretty smoking deals right now

IMHO the Chevrolet Bolt EV was already that. It just needed a bit faster charging. This is too big to be practical in my opinion.

My wife would agree with you. I'm 6'3" and the Bolt is too tight for me

@@swecreationsno, it wasn’t. For those of us who are taller, larger, and size 14 feet… the Bolt was not even on the table. The Blazer EV finally made a vehicle we can seriously look at. Hoping the Equinox will also. Will find out later today. Problem with the online reviewers are they are all skinny, short, skinny leg jeans wearing folks that are more concerned with cosmetic issues and nerd issues that quite frankly no one really cares about once they finally find a truely comfortable ride.

Being a Chevy/GM is the only downside.

@@swecreationsHow would you ever figure a small SUV is “too big to be practical”?

Right? The assumption that DC fast charging is a killer....most folks drive 20-30 miles a day and might need DC charging a couple times a year tops. With a 320 mile range and 3.5 miles per kwh I could charge off my existing 20amp 120v outlet in my garage for everyday use and not even need a 240v charger installed. With just the 120v outlet you get 7mph charging. Sitting in the garage over night for 12 hrs that's 80 miles of range. My wife drives 5 miles each way to work and could do that charge once every 2 weeks 😂. There are hundreds of thousands of people that could drive that way their entire lives. It's the same as doing 0-60 times in SUV or minivan reviews. Interesting data but not relevant 99% of the time.

@@MrJbart1981 Totally agree with you. I own a 2015 Nissan Leaf S-trim. @131k miles I was greedy enough to purchase and had professionally installed a 62kWh Nissan battery pack to replace the OEM 24 kWh (83%SoH). The Leaf inexplicably lost the use of the Chademo, but with all the battery potential energy, I merely needed to plug into the wall 120-Volt outlet for my daily needs. With 180 miles range (highway speeds and climbing to 5,000' mtn pass) I can use 240- Volt commercial charger four hours at my destination to complete a roundtrip. My current work commute is merely four miles each way... so days go by before the battery pack SoC goes below 50%. Of course, it takes two days and nights to bring it from 50 to 100% @ 120-Volt wall plug. Mostly I charge it to 70 - 90%.

I'm happy that gm is finally finding their footing.. good job on the equinox

@@lelandhetrick205 I have TWO leaf's..A 2013 SL & a 2020 SV PLUS and I have been getting by with 120 Volt charging since it's alot of $$$ to get a 240 volt setup to the carport!! You DONT want to fast charge anyway so be glad the CD fast charging DIED...I let my brother drive my 2013 when I upgraded to the 2020 !

I think their perception is a bit warped from having access to a lot of high performance EVs. Understandable, but I wish some of these reviewers would consider the target market of the vehicles they review. Older reviewers are more capable of this, so maybe it's just a life experience thing

Doesn't exist right now though. With cloth seats and very few options considering the segment it's in? I bet not a single dealer stocks a base base base model 1lt. Everyone will have 3-5k or more in options pack's.

@@mikel4879 later this year

Would like to see a compare video to the ICE equinox

I think you nailed it! Especially the market for these kind of vehicles now is criss crossing into ICE market share which GM wants. These buyers may not care about 0-60 performance and.have practicality in mind. If GM can conquer this segment by nailing this benefit and keeping the price comparable to the competition ICE vehicles while reassuring EV negative public perspective then and only then will these start overtaking ICE vehicles. I like that they sell both and offer consumers the choice to cross shop between the ICE and EV counterparts.

The bolt EUV was good. The Blazer is way too expensive. This model is relatively expensive because there are no 1LT trims available, and the lowest available trim Fwd is 43k.

It's fwd weighs nearly 5,000# with 6 lug wheels and has slower charging than a 2018 tesla model 3 lr. Oh yeah it also costs more than a model 3 does or a similarly equipped model Y. Tows less, less performance made in mx etc. 😀 I wonder if the announced in 2022 30k starting price base cloth seats 1lt fwd now at 35k will ever even exist? I bet no dealer stocks any of them ALL will come with 3-5k in options or MORE.

Maybe people don’t want to be associated with elon. Plus, not everything needs to be 0-60 in 3 seconds. A person cant go from a nissan rogue to what is basically land rocket. Would you like to compare the cyber’truck’ to its gas competition? Also, GM is probably one of the only companies that actually have experience with EVs

@@green29373 not many people buy cars to virtue signal.

yea, bnut not really , the most important ones are the actual cheap ones, those are the ones who actually flip the industry, those are aswell the hardest to make, by far. thats why they come last but we are almost there, + the new car category "robotaxi" which is the ultimate mobility imo because the cheapest of all for sure. and price is the most important thing

@@4literv6 If my GM car breaks down I can take it to my dealer 10-15 minutes away to 2 of them. A third one just a tad further. Nearest Tesla service center is at least 2 hours away. Not everyone lives in California or near a major city. We get it you are a Tesla fanboy. Just because someone else likes something else it shouldn't bother you.

The may 2024 incentives on the Blazer were nuts. On Monday the new incentives should be released for the equinox

There are plenty of dealerships not doing mark ups....

@@Nebula1701Whining about alleged markups are the new social currency in some circles.

I guarantee chevy is losing a fortune on every one they sell. Tesla is mopping the floor with everyone.

Not a lot of dealers are doing markups on EVs where I am. Now it's more about whether or not they have interest rate incentives or MSRP knock downs.

No-one needs an Internet connected car

So people who lease get everything free for a standard lease term. Sneaky.

@@JohnFromArlingtron Yes. People leasing won’t care but I wonder about selling the car after that. If tethering your phone is seamless then I suppose it will be okay.

@@MegaWilderness Nobody's forcing you to buy one. Hell, if you dislike the infotainment enough, nothing's stopping you from popping a suction phone mount onto the window and using whatever mapping apps, and other things that you might want.

@@pseudonymous1382 But will Tesla even work or recharge without being connected

That's right about 3.1miles per kwh so not bad at hwy speeds, but nothing impressive in 2024 for a fwd low power ground up ev. For reference the Kia niro or kona can match or beat that as ice platform conversion evs.

@@4literv6 I want to be positive but 3.1 is unacceptable today. My bmw i3 averages 4.3 mi/kwh and is capable of 4.8.

No impressive numbers here

@@rcpmac that's silly comparison... i3 about 2000 lbs lighter with half the range, much less interior space and cargo capacity, oh and I doubt you're even averaging 4.3 mi/kwh at 75 miles per hour on the highway come on man!

21" wheels and the brakes are so small that 16" wheels would fit.

Those of Us Who need an economical car do not pay taxes....Low income..........And can not qualify for any tax rebate....Paul

Or the 1997 ev s10? Which they did the same thing as the ev1, leased em then took them back&crushed them. Oh yeah gm also had ev trucks over a century ago. 👍🏻

He mentioned the S-10

It's not a no brainer if all you are doing is leasing it which is what is going to be happening with a lot of these EV's. You are not taking that into consideration.

This form factor is more appealing imo Edit nvm got the Optiq confused with the new Cadillac sedan EV

Both have identical power trains..............Paul

That's the sad reality, and likely the main reason why my next vehicle won't be a GM one. Sad, because I've been with them since the Spark days, and am quite dependent on the wireless CarPlay they gave me in my Bolt. Like the heated steering wheel, I can't go back now.

Umm, the bolt needs way more than 40 minutes to go 10-80% and to be fair, this will do it in the 36 minute range, practical in use experience on trips this will charge about 3 times faster than the Bolt for equivalent added miles.

@@jefffaust3244 Please post the link to that 10-80 time.

I like the built in google map and google assistance so I don't have to depend on my phone. Also built in Spodify and Alexa. Also like the 2 screens as opposed to the Tesla with just one screen. Much nicer screens up higher for better visability

Average traffic does not accelerate very fast off a green light.

We test drove the V a long time ago; literally could not feel it accelerate off the red light, so I get what you mean.

Totally agree. Kyle has a lead foot and likes to race. 0 to 60 fatigue.

With these reviewers, It's getting to the point to where, if ANY EV won't run an 8 second 1/4 mile, it's dangerously slow, and unusable.

a plug in hybrid like the prius prime would be a good bridge technology. It has around 50hp more and can charge with a 120volt out just fine

Chevy killed the Malibu

That's the problem I see with a lot of KZfaq comments about this car. They just don't get that not everyone cares about power, speed, and all that jazz.

$50 grand....In My mind must bring much refinement................Paul

Why

@@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquirywhen a car slows down the weight shifts to the front. Having the motor connected to the front wheels means it gets more force there to drive the regen.

Heavy for what it is, slow charging so low range, lousy efficency so far across many user reports and anything decently equipped is 40-46k.

Much better than Blazer EV jet engine vents

Boring.

@@GET2222 I'm comparing it to Tesla which is the low water mark for styling and build quality.

@@hwirtwirt4500 I own a lot of cars. My model X has better panel gaps than my BMW X5M. My model X has been serviced one time in nearly 9 years of ownership. I have spent nothing on it as it was a front suspension adjustment under warranty. My BMW X5M has had over $3600 in brake work and I can hear a caliper right now and need to bring it in again. It’s exhausting… I’m sick and tired of my BMWs, Mercedes, my A7, Aston Martin and Maserati all having maintenance issues. What build quality issues are you speaking about? 2018 model 3s? My model X is from 2016 back when Tesla supposedly didn’t know how to make cars and yet every F-ing car I own has thousands of dollars of work done every single year. All I do is drive my Tesla model X and I drive it harder than any of my other cars. My family fights over it. It’s the safest car we own. I have friends like you who say sh-t and have no idea what they are talking about. Many of them now own a Tesla after driving mine. Their wives and kids love it and so do they, but they don’t like to admit it. You probably own an old Honda and hate musk. Waaa waaa cry. Tired of you woke POS hurling “build quality” like it’s in every car. It not. I’m living proof and so is sandy munro and other tear down channels. Get lost kid… 😂

@@hwirtwirt4500 styling is personal. There is not a single American car made in the last 30 years that’s worth purchasing from a styling point of view. IMHO… I have a very contemporary home on a lake with a very minimal aesthetic. I can’t wait to own a Tesla without a dumb steering wheel. People who b-tch about stalks are morons. Everyone one of them.

Yep - the lower numbers for good reasons.

To be fair, degradation on Teslas is pretty good. Other than a +/- 5% degradation in the first year or so, it then slows down a lot. I would still prefer faster charging and am not worried about degradation.

Supply the reference of 62C battery temperatures in a Tesla! Teslas have the most efficient heatpump system in an EV with the Octovalve design ensuring the battery is bought to optimum charging temperature of 40C before the car arrives at the charger and limiting to 45C during charging. During normal driving the temperature is kept in the 15-30C range. The cooling system in BEVs is a prime area where engineering expertize shows. See the videos on the Ford mess at Munro teardown. and comments on the Hyundai three system approach... With CATL and BYD packs rated at over a million kilometres, GM should not be worried about limiting charging rates! Unless their hvac is sub par... Make sure you catch the Equinox teardown! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5ebe9aVmLXHqJc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZpecitCBzprHhJ8.html

@@waynerussell6401 This in not an equinox ev tear down. Ford MachE

Truth! Out of spec is obsessed with fast charging when most people use it a handful of times a year if that

50 miles = 80km. So when they mention 300miles, that is 480km

Thanks for the update.

You can add wireless charging with a good cup holder charger

Agree to that. And where is the "Legacy Auto" haters? And the Tesla crazy fans?

@@stennordenmalm9900 I’m here. I think it’s great. Most Tesla owners used to drive other makes of vehicles before Tesla was a thing, and I’m quite fond of legacy auto makers and have been rooting for them for years to compete with Tesla. It’s also good to see Hyundai pushing Tesla to be better. But I’m impressed with the Equinox and would never discourage anyone from buying one.

@@bluedog9935You don’t sound crazy or like a hater?

lol Barra Is lucky she has a job still. Every thing she’s touched EV wise has been a disaster so far

@@stennordenmalm9900Crazy Tesla fan here too. I’m rooting for ALL EVs, and rooting for all legacy automakers to produce great EV competition. Competition is great for prices and quality, pushing all automakers to strive to do better. This looks like a great SUV - I’m genuinely very happy this is coming out and that it was reviewed so well. It will probably be very popular, moving more people to electric vehicles. And am looking forward to Tesla turning on the Supercharger network for GM, just as they’ve done for Ford and Rivian. All good things.

It's going to take a while to get weird parts on any vehicle especially a new one. Do you also not have normal mirrors? I know backup cameras are nice and all, but it's not dangerous.

@@matt45540 The visibility out of the back of the vehicle is horrible, so I feel much more safe backing out with the 360 degree camera system fully functional. I actually would not have had a problem with the wait time on the parts if it had actually FIXED the issue, which it did not. I am trying to lemon law the car right now. Never again!