Outstanding Rapido 16xx Pannier Tank Engine

Outstanding Rapido 16xx Pannier Tank Engine | Unboxing & Review

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A full review of the very impressive 16xx Pannier Tank from Rapido Trains!
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0:00 Intro
2:48 Unboxing
7:28 Prototype Info
8:48 Detail
14:45 Mechanism
17:18 Performance
20:36 Haulage
25:30 Ratings
28:22 Conclusion

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@NWRJ_WStudios Жыл бұрын

Hi Sam I think I found the odd one out, it's the 1361, do I get a free point. Cheers Jasper & Willow

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Edit: yes that's right well spotted! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@enforcer0175 4 ай бұрын

This review plus the model's ranking for 2023 convinced me to buy one and have it shipped to the US, and it does not disappoint at all. It comes to life with much less power than the other Locos I have, runs very smooth, and is very quiet. Now I just need to get some British rolling stock so it can actually do some work and not just run around. Very good stuff, and thanks for the video Sam.

@bow-tiedengineer4453 Жыл бұрын

It boggles the mind that they went so above and beyond with the construction, features, and detail, but then didn't bother with machined brass and copper for the safety valve and funnel, and used such matte paint for the finish. They went so above and beyond with all the less visible features most manufacturers slack on to cut costs, but then they didn't put in the effort on those superficial things some other manufacturers do put in the effort because they are so noticeable. I also really love the way they did those screws under the water filler caps, not only is it a very sturdy yet still accessible and well concealed way to attach the body to the chassis, but if you want to pose it with the filler cap off at a water tower or something you can do that.

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree - and what a difference that construction makes! Don't understand the chimney/safety valve aspects - very strange! Yeah I was dubious about the water filler thing to start with, but it was pretty intuitive! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын

This is a great little locomotive despite the scratch to the top of the left pannier tank!! Good running is a Rapido trait!! Great model, complete with everything you need for a wonderful day of playing trains!!

@madmerlinsart Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, that is insane level of detail. If I still had a 00 layout I think I'd save up and get this loco.

@dink_lesbian154 Жыл бұрын

Quick suggestion that may improve the viewing experience for headphone users: the perceived loudness of music is much greater than that of plain spoken word vocals, so even if they are at the same dB level in your editing package, the vocals will sound way quieter when played back to back. Try increasing the level of the vocals as a way to make sure they all balance out. (I don't know much about trains, but I do know something about audio engineering.) Thanks for all the great videos!

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Ahh sorry about that! I mix the audio so that it sounds right to me, that's all I can do I guess! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@daveosgerby Жыл бұрын

Thanks for yet another great review. I've just bought one for my dad 🎉

@C.A.A93 Жыл бұрын

Always a pleasure to chill out in the evening with a nice drink and a video of yours Sam, Cheers.✌

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Bless you, that's lovely to hear!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@potatosspilled6621 Жыл бұрын

FINALLY! More panniers! We have been needing this! Great Review Sam! 👍👏

@TheAvergeRailwayFan Жыл бұрын

Rapido's quality is unmatched, just plain and simple

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Yeah - they really go above and beyond! Like Rapido! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Morgans_Trains Жыл бұрын

Never had a rapido train before

@TheAvergeRailwayFan Жыл бұрын

@@Morgans_Trains they are very good

@Morgans_Trains Жыл бұрын

@@TheAvergeRailwayFan yes I can imagine 👍

@warthunderplayer4118 Жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains to get a match of quality or beyond it, you should try scale trains, very good quality, and at better pricing then most British brands(although only American trains, but you have done them before, so could you do it again, plz? I think you might be as good as impressed with it or even better.)

@randytaylor1258 Жыл бұрын

Lovely model and a very nice video, Sam. The loco is stunning and your few negative comments -- some surprising -- were fyll justified. Very fair.

@loona4133 Жыл бұрын

Cute little train. I do love that one. It looks nice. U never disappoint. U always brighten my day with ur trains.

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much - that's really lovely to hear!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@loona4133 Жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains yep u are very welcome my friend u are the number 1.

@SuperScottCrawford 9 ай бұрын

New to channel. Enjoying it!

@manmikey65 Жыл бұрын

Hi Sam, another fantastic review, I love your channel 😊 My dad is a Great Western fan and all through my childhood he and his railway mates referred to a 16xx as a "sixteen hundred" and the 94xx as a "Ninty four hundred" as aposed to your "16 ex ex" and "94 ex ex" I wonder how it was said back in the GWR days?

@clivengauge Жыл бұрын

Great review very nice looking train love the green g w r tank engine you can't bet rapido 👍

@threepea1151 Жыл бұрын

Once again it’s a great day when Sam uploads!

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

haha thank you! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@jamesdennis2004 Жыл бұрын

I think this engine is great thinking about getting one.

@TheZeldafan57 Жыл бұрын

The comment about the different designer team is right on the money Sam. This loco, the J70, APT and the Stirling Single were all designed by Rapido US before the formation of the Rapido UK team.

@timbervalleyproductions Жыл бұрын

This is an awesome model! I really like the looks of the panniers, and if this were cheaper I'd probably buy one! Great review as well, btw.

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Yeah the price is the only big downside! Worth it, don't get me wrong, but hard to swallow! Appreciate your kind words mate :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@gamingwithlukeJToH Жыл бұрын

Man, when you said outstanding, I didn't expect it to be better than the Class 92! If the finish and the price was better, and it didn't have *_the scratch_* on it, I might have even bought this even though I live in the US. Great review!

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

haha yeah - it's way up there isn't it? And a pity about *the scratch* Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@jamesdunloptrains Жыл бұрын

Awesome video today Sam beautiful locomotive

@blatherskite9601 Жыл бұрын

My goodness! A loco that works properly, out of the box!! How amazing is that?

@overpoweredsteamproduction513 Жыл бұрын

Funny enough is that that pick up design updates WAY back, my Illinois central 382 has those pick ups, and that model is nearly 50 years old!

@NeilWB Жыл бұрын

Sam, a suggestion for a series of videos: shopping lists (mini-reviews) of best model locomotives, coaches and wagons for people wanting to model a particular railway - i.e. GWR, LNER, SR and LMS

@bryantan863 Жыл бұрын

This 1600 pannier tank engine from Rapido UK is an extraordinary model. It is the 1st model ever to be 100% made out of die-cast metal and its pick-ups are smartly engineered which makes them way better than the Hunslet model. Plus, it is worth money well spent. Even though it is an exclusive model Sam but it is still a fantastic model.

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

I think so too Bryan - certainly true that very few models are entirely metal like this! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@willausterman3104 Жыл бұрын

There are much older models that are 100% die-cast, but this is one of the first more modern releases to be all diecast.

@bryantan863 Жыл бұрын

@@willausterman3104 damn right you are.

@c2757 Жыл бұрын

@@willausterman3104 1950's/1960's Hornby-Dublo and Graham Farish spring to mind. Also kits such as Wills and K's were cast white metal although probably gravity cast rather than die cast.

@willausterman3104 Жыл бұрын

@@c2757 we had several here in the states as well, notably Mantua and Varney. Märklin was also diecast in the 1930's if I'm not mistaken.

@alanwagstaff16 Жыл бұрын

Like it so much may just might have to buy 1 😀

@brianmicky7596 Жыл бұрын

Hi Sam Flying Scotsman is out today, from Cornwall to Devon, Bristol , have a good day All the best Brian 😃

@AllensTrains Жыл бұрын

Looka like a good loco for those with small layouts featuring a GWR preserved theme! Thanks for uploading.

@alantoms3263 Жыл бұрын

This does seem to be a lovely model - diecast as well. Joins do look quite prominent.

@riparadis Жыл бұрын

I love these Tank Engines

@doge_sevens Жыл бұрын

coming from canada i didnt know rapido did british aswell, considering over here theyre known for incredibly high detail disels and are only getting started with steam (they're starting to do canadian pacific steam locomotives which i think you should review, the royal hudson) im trying to save up for the next canadian steamer they're making which is the d10 10 wheeler, i also have a review recommendation which is a bit of an old one, the presients choice big 10 express which was made by mehano and comes with a 2-10-2 locomotive and a bunch of CN coal hoppers, loved the video as always

@SudricAdventures Жыл бұрын

Nice video!

@davidhall5868 Жыл бұрын

Gwr Saddle tank engine, great review btw Sam’s trains

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Well spotted David! :D

@brianmicky7596 Жыл бұрын

Hi Sam Yes very nice, All the best Brian 😃

@loggior.speedweed4345 Жыл бұрын

First time im ever seeing this engine and to quote a famous small green engine "...Oh dear, someone squashed it!"

@ciaranburke3243 Жыл бұрын

Amazing little loco sam I want one 👍

@williamlanark3038 Жыл бұрын

Great video Sam! Good looking loco. The weight says alot about the quality!

@ben2692 Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the 15xx I've got on order if this is anything to go by !!

@OlivierGabin Жыл бұрын

You make me wants to buy one... I'm a fan of the Pannier tanks, and short of GWR stock, and Rapido ticks all the boxes. Especially on the good puller side, my Hunslet is a good performer, and that does not surprises me to see this one having good performances. Well, perfectible finish and plastic parts that would have look better in metal, that the only drawbacks. As is, the price is good for me, even if I consider it on the pricey side. GBP130 would have been better for me, but it's a fair buy as is. I hesitate between the historically accurate one and the GWR what if/preservation. See that next month !

@chrisdavies3913 Жыл бұрын

There's just something about panniers I love.

@McZachoman Жыл бұрын

If this is as good as the J70, you'll be in for a treat Sam.

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

It's pretty darn good, that's for sure!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@dakshanbalaramesh Жыл бұрын

Once again, Rapido knocked it out of the park! Also Sam, what is your opinion on the Peco and Bachmann models?

@_pjb-vw6cy Жыл бұрын

Good review, you should add th escale speed at 50% to the chart

@michaelmatthews-uu4en Жыл бұрын

Hi Sam I think you are doing Rapido a disservice on the colour. Having driven the engine the colour is pretty spot on. I do still enjoy your unbiased opinions though.

@mcollier4566 Жыл бұрын

As a preservation era model, you could probably have put 5 chocolate and cream MK1s on to reflect its Dart Valley days or 5 Southern Region green MK1s for a KESR train

@johnoneill5661 Жыл бұрын

Very nice locomotive 👍

@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 Жыл бұрын

nice loco i keep up the good vids thanks lee

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Lee!! :D

@davidf2281 Жыл бұрын

Those window-grille bars are a magnificent detail feature 👍

@ModelRailwaysUnlimited Жыл бұрын

Interesting video as always. I have two E1s on order so its interesting to see how they do here. I did notice the holes for the handrails are over-sized which looks a little naff to be honest. Good to see the plunger pickups coming back, Airfix had there on their 1976 14XX class.

@tobyytlai Жыл бұрын

Soon you'll be able to run 15XX, 16XX and 94XX together. Three very last GWR tank engine classes

@jeannedarcalterberserker8620 Жыл бұрын

With all the die-cast this can well be a Hornby Dublo locomotive. Looks so good. I don't own a modern pannier tank yet, only a 1979 one from Hornby. If I get one, it has to be this one. A big shame about the scratch though it ruins the illusion for me very poor, aside from that I completely agree with your overall positive review. Detail is amazing. Actually, my old Airfix 14xx also has pick-ups like this. Works well never had any issues.

@kkobayashi1 10 ай бұрын

FYI, my ~20 yr old Marklin Maxi (1 gauge) loco had this type of electrical pickup.

@alanhaynes4576 Жыл бұрын

Sam, great loco. Can that scratch be buffed out otherwise I would send it back to get a scratchless one. This is a great model. Sad they could not use Brass Whistles like several other models. Thanks for the review.

@alanwagstaff16 Жыл бұрын

Yep brought one . And I'm blaming you Mr Sam trains lol 😂🤣😂

@NWRJ_WStudios Жыл бұрын

I've been looking for one of these for a very long time, at least for a good price. Maybe I'll just get one :) Cheers Jasper & Willow

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Ahh fantastic - I can recommend it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@LawrenceTimme Жыл бұрын

Its nice to see a expensive model actually bring the goods to justify the cost. Its expensive, but its great and ypu get what you pay for. 😎

@Jimyjames73 Жыл бұрын

Very good - I've got the Hornby Version 🙂🚂🚂🚂

@zippingcruises7712 Жыл бұрын

I’ve always been a fan of the panniers, it’s a shame getting models like these to the US, but my Smokey Joe and I will go on for a long awhile

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Yeah I quite like panniers - ahh yeah pity about the shipping! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@peterandrews7756 Жыл бұрын

Hi Sam do you think the new Hornby blue tooth sound chips will fit this loco as they don't fit Bachman 08s

@Lilbro28 Жыл бұрын

Great video sam as usual keep up the good work

@conernedcitizen2898 Жыл бұрын

Hi Sam, It would be nice to see, as part of your power test, the model actually pulling the number of coaches specified (Using a standard specification coach or defined weight equivalent).

@michaelschultz5127 2 ай бұрын

You could have placed a small 8 pin decoder, from hornby in your loco here

@DouglasParkinson Жыл бұрын

The KESR is my nearest railway, so i am familiar with 1638. I believe that the fictional GWR livery was done in part to run it as Duck during Thomas days. I think their current stance is more towards real prototype liveries carried by class members rather than these fictional ones, hence why it's now wearing early BR black. A very nice model, they've really knocked it out of the park. That pickup system is very odd and could do with refinement, but i look forward to seeing if it gets used in other models.

@nameless5413 Жыл бұрын

i kinda wonder: are the exclusives such as the subject of this video used as probe into minds of dedicated fans? I imagine the feedback could be used to steer development of or prototype technology on small scale for testing. Overall nice to see something that dose appear to have earned its price.

@michaelschultz5127 2 ай бұрын

New project idea, how about adding people and or adding lighting in a coach or two

@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын

The 16xx is a beautiful locomotive, Sam!! Rapido is one of the better train models!!

@kellyashfordtrains2642 Жыл бұрын

The odd one out is the Great Western Saddle Tank Engine. Please can you create a Pannier Tank Engine gala video, which includes all the Pannier Tank Engines you own? The one I love most is the 57xx.

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Well spotted!! And I love the idea of a Gala, nice idea!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@BrokenIET Жыл бұрын

This is amazing, hopefully I‘m gonna get one of their 1500s (they are my favourite engines irl), and I can’t wait to see it when I do get it

@barleyarrish Жыл бұрын

yes

@martynasmisiukevicius4354 Жыл бұрын

Hello sam i have wanted ask for advice i have this mainline 43xx and its well not well it has a badly striped screw on the split chassis so i cant disassemble the loco and the motor is smokin if i give it power do i leave it as a static model or do i trie to somehow remove that screw? and fix it?

@Thebradycarroll Жыл бұрын

RIP station guy, you will be missed. 8:30

@williamtown4058 Жыл бұрын

In order for it really look like it is running on the Kent and East Sussex Railway, it would have a rake of green MkI coaches but I understand this has limitations to it.

@euanhood Жыл бұрын

Is this larger Hornby size or smaller like Hatton 0 6 0

@AdiPullen Жыл бұрын

Hi sam I hope you are well Tempted now to get one. Shame about the brake rigging and scratch. Keep safe ARP

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Thanks Adi! Yeah it's a shame, though I wouldn't expect others to have a scratch like that!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@AbeTheBabe6233 Жыл бұрын

nice!

@McZachoman Жыл бұрын

Is the odd one out the 1361 lemon class?

@blueboy1923 Жыл бұрын

I think I know what my next loco will be 😉😁🚂

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

haha I don't blame you! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@Hercules4277 Жыл бұрын

Nice review Sam, Lovely to see more Manufactures making more Panniers! Personally I don't like them, But they sure are exquisite.

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

I agree - won't be long before we have all of the panniers! haha they sure are! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@star86703 Жыл бұрын

Wow is that duck brilliant video 👍😊🤩

@cristianmuraro8214 Жыл бұрын

Duck is pannier tank 57xx, in the video Sam review a pannier tank 16xx

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

haha it's similar yeah! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@star86703 Жыл бұрын

@@cristianmuraro8214 thanks I forgot ☺☺

@TheTransportationFanfromCA Жыл бұрын

Already an early excellent model

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Yeah absolutely!! :D

@davidstrains4910 Жыл бұрын

Decent review here Sam, I will be honest I had completely forgotten about this one, looks really nice though to be honest. I recently picked up a great model this week this one being the 10001 diesel from dapol so now I have both the LMS diesel twins which is great for me because I can then double head them and run them like they used to, I’m surprised that you haven’t looked for a 10001 since you have the 10000 from bachmann.

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Thanks David - it sure does - really impressive model! Ahh how is the 10001?? Never tried that one from Dapol!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@davidstrains4910 Жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains the 10001 that I have just got hold of is a great model to be honest, both the models of 10000 and 10001 are from around 2010, to be honest there isn’t that much difference between the bachmann one but obviously because the dapol ones are from 2010 they are not in production anymore so can only be bought second hand, only differences that I would say is between the bachmann and dapol models of 10000 and 10001 is the dapol ones have sprung buffers and different lighting configurations, they bachmann and dapol models of these locomotives are pretty much very similar models. Also I actually hadn’t forgotten about this pannier tank, I had just forgotten that it was a model out there, I have actually seen this model before as I saw a different person review one that was fitted with the busby spark arrestor chimney

@lachd2261 Жыл бұрын

Nice model. I agree about the finish, but I’ve seen video of black ones and they look immaculate, so maybe it’s just the paint?

@levidarling5107 Жыл бұрын

Hard to hate a good quality locomotive. Will you still get a big boy for Ho scale?

@davidhinks8384 Жыл бұрын

Rapido are really shining. I've always liked a pannier, so thankfully for my wallet, this is out of era for me, but doesn't bode well for my finances when their 45xx & 4575 come out. As always Sam, great review. Cheers

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

They sure are - this has to be one of the best Panniers too!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@NWRJ_WStudios Жыл бұрын

Hey Sam I'm just started building my new layout, and it's coming together really great, I'll keep you updated ;) Cheers Jasper & Willow

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Ahh fantastic - good luck with the rest!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@richardhiggins6471 Жыл бұрын

One criticism about the design/appearance of this model - the front coupling sticks out way beyond the buffers, just like the Oxford N7. This makes sprung buffers pointless, but also means that there is far too big a gap between the front buffer beam and anything it is coupled to when working cab first.

@dj_efk Жыл бұрын

I had the same thought - That’s got to be to allow it to go round 1st radius curves - can you buy shortened NEM couplings I wonder to correct this? My layout has 3rd radius minimum curves for example.

@wellingtonnorthjunction3911 Жыл бұрын

Just awaiting the 15xx if that’s good that means 1501 will

@BrewPub Жыл бұрын

The finish looks good to me. They may have been going for a mat finish, rather than a satin finish.

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think that's what they were going for! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

@themightyhood-4117 Жыл бұрын

Me, a broke American with HO scale who barely runs in OO British stock "I don't need it....i don't need it...." "I NEEEEEEED IT"

@saintdane05 Жыл бұрын

23:55 I believe is the odd one out. That's a saddle tank isn't it?

@James-Railyard Жыл бұрын

For a Rapido steamer that’s not a bad price. I’d definitely pay that. You should see the price for Rapido’s Canadian Hudsons. Oh boy are they pricey but comparable to brass engines.

@gc7820 Жыл бұрын

Got mine as soon as they came out in the GWR green but with ‘Dart Valley’ written in GW style as per early preservation. Love the representation of the enamelled tea flask on the shelf over the fire box door. Sadly drawbacks as you say but also on my version the shed code plate isn’t present as it should be but the smokebox door has the moulding for it, the model is also missing the lamp bracket the real one has centrally on its bunker which I find a bit odd given the lengths gone to in other areas. Overall a lovely model though.

@madhatter61 4 ай бұрын

It's got a nice pair of buffers I have to admit.

@paulkandi Жыл бұрын

Lovely model, the true GWR green is pale, when compared to the Bachmann 94, I would say the 1600 is more prototypical than the Bachmann model..check up with the Railmatch paints … But saying that, no particular loco paint in those days, or BR days we’re identical, all the major factories at the time mixesd there own paint, so there were variations…

@genixia Жыл бұрын

It's a shame that such a great quality model isn't representative of any liveried class that actually ran on GWR rails. I can't imagine that too many people model the Kent and East Sussex Railway. I wonder how much it differed from the 2021 class and whether a renumber is feasible (in which case, an etched 20xx plate in the box would be nice), or whether the tooling might form the basis for an upcoming 2021 class release...

@briandesens144 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video Sam's trains it's duck 😂

@SamsTrains Жыл бұрын

Thanks Brian! It is similar to Duck's class! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

@briandesens144 Жыл бұрын

@@SamsTrains you're welcome 😊

@lindaoffenbach Жыл бұрын

Looks like a real steal there Sam... We can only dream about those prices for Märklin lol, certainly for exclusives (expect at least 5x or 7x depending on size compared to what you have paid hahah). Lovely loco with a few hick ups. The sheen itself is excellently realistic and much more serious looking in contrast with the Bachmann. Too much shine doesn't really work for OO or H0. In this case the B looks more like a toy. The hick ups and the scratch indeed but also a paint chip on a buffer and warped brake rigging... Manufacturing quality of R never has impressed us but one can't complain for the money.

@hughoconnor9172 Жыл бұрын

A relatively nice model but at a price that is out of the question for most normal people. I do seriously question the livery as 1638 was built by BR in 1951. Interestingly, the engine was bought for £1300 and this model comes in at over 10% of that price! Makes you think!!!