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OVERPOWERED or OVERRATED? How good is BLOODNOTCH? | Path of Exile

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@korayo8793
@korayo8793 Жыл бұрын
Your content ist seriously underrated. Always showing panels and explaining as good as no one else. Thank you for the effort 👍🏻
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@elkoa9211
@elkoa9211 Жыл бұрын
it was hard at the beginning with the robot voice but since you switched, i'm real hooked up
@thisjustin77
@thisjustin77 Жыл бұрын
The robot voice wasn't bad. Better then a lot of the ones ppl use at least
@elkoa9211
@elkoa9211 Жыл бұрын
@@thisjustin77 you right it's just personal preference
@MrLastGuide
@MrLastGuide Жыл бұрын
an addition is that you can change the usual cwdt setups to cast when stunned which is amazing as you proc a lot more reliable and can use stuff like 21 gems cause cast when stunned has no lvl restriction
@ILikeGuns1992
@ILikeGuns1992 Жыл бұрын
Using Bloodnotch made me realise just how fucking bonkers monsters in this game are.
@stephennetu
@stephennetu Жыл бұрын
Straight to the point! Amazing content, sir. Thank you!
@MDLEUA
@MDLEUA Жыл бұрын
Great content 🎉 Myself I play a lot of std and pvp, when progenesis came out we knew that will broke the game and it did, then bloodnotch this patch improve the progenesis. But the counter for the combo remains in getting stun, fast enough to counter your attack or casting it is a problem with slow actions and even impossible to use it in pvp if you get a lot of hits in a short time you will be permanently stun locked.
@Miss_Willow
@Miss_Willow Жыл бұрын
I tried it on my nearly unkillable pathfinder (the only things that kill me are extreme shotgunning, or mavens anti-regen) the micro-stuns felt terrible to map with. it didnt take long for me to swap out of it. i even had a 999% immutable force.
@honordevs
@honordevs 11 ай бұрын
I really appreciate these videos. After over 12k hours on poe, the most difficult thing I find is explaining mechanics to new players. Your videos are an immediate link to all of my friends, any time I need to explain a mechanic.
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg 11 ай бұрын
Glad they're helpful!
@shuyin69
@shuyin69 Жыл бұрын
this combination with pathfinder and phys damage conversion is the easiest and tankiest build to put together for me ever, sadly some of this things most probably are gonna get nerfed next league. good video ty
@idn
@idn Жыл бұрын
Phys conversion is very refreshing given how hard it is to fit in Determination with Grace now.
@Ilyak1986
@Ilyak1986 Жыл бұрын
Pathfinder has fairly little to do with it beyond "I can maintain progenesis/taste of hate in hideout". Anyone else can do the whole phys conversion + blood/force jewels.
@lucidd4103
@lucidd4103 Жыл бұрын
I'm on the fence to use it, i have the currency to get the jewels, but without the flask i think it's not that good either. I disliked petrified blood a lot, even on a pathfinder constantly flask healing. I think the low life requirement is just too much on top of the mana reservation, the need for recoup, the no regen, the life cost of skill, that's just too much, and at the end as you said you are just so weak to one shoot which are the entire poe defensive set up requirement these days. I f i get a lucky drop and can get ther flask before i stop playing the season i'll probably try though.
@JayBigDadyCy
@JayBigDadyCy Жыл бұрын
Haven't dabbled with this yet, but I have realized how good recoup is if stacked a bit with a small amount of leech (I have .3% cold damage leeched as health and about 30% recoup). Progenesis is super expensive, so getting all this defense set up isn't cheap. But bloodnotch is inexpensive enough. I think it's gets nerfed next league though.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn Жыл бұрын
I'd say it's kinda overrated, if not using Progenesis (which is kinda OP just on its own really). There's a number of defenses in the game that make you very tanky against small hits. The jewel combo impresses people a lot because of how comfortable it feels - until you die. But, albeit with higher passive investment but less currency investment, you can get the same feeling from just getting tons of dodge, spell dodge, block, spell block, etc. Nothing seems to hurt you, until something does and you die. In the case of the jewel combo rather than just being a random unlucky hit, it's a big hit. Both even share the similarity that they do nothing against DOTs. Armor works this way too - extremely powerful against small hits, next to useless against big ones. But if you just want to use it for mapping rather than facing any actually hard-hitting content, there's a MUCH CHEAPER option both in terms of passives and currency investment - just allocate Wellspring of Creation on your Atlas tree and boom, your build will magically be a whole lot tankier! 😉Point being the combo doesn't protect you against the stuff you truly need protection from - big hits/DoTs. Progenesis does, but Progenesis works amazing even just on its own. Hell you can even facetank small hits even without any mitigation if you just have tons of recovery from the old-fashioned sources too. Leech builds often manage this for instance, even without much investment into leech (so unlike regen builds) so long as their damage is good (especially now with instant leech in the game). Life on block builds have also been doing it for ages. The main broken part is here is just Progenesis imo. That said, I'm surprised I haven't seen much in the way of Cast When Stunned builds taking over the meta so far, especially since besides these jewels the gem itself was also significantly buffed this patch. If anything here were to truly break the meta, I was expected it to be that gem.
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg Жыл бұрын
Yeah the broken part is definitely Progenesis, but I do feel like if anything were to be nerfed it would more likely be the jewel just to keep uber boss loot strong which I don't mind tbh. And I agree about CWS, I thought there would be a lot of use with that and not even 'meme' builds, just moreso if something is using a build to take advantage of the new stun stuff I'd think they would also make use of CWS, I believe it's like 90% chance to proc now or something with quality so it seems quite good to build around.
@illustrukarma
@illustrukarma Жыл бұрын
I've been playing a pf with the 3 you mentioned, bit overkill but it's fun
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg Жыл бұрын
Gigatank!
@guts2112
@guts2112 Жыл бұрын
Best poe channel
@mewch
@mewch Жыл бұрын
Blood rage or RF are great ways to keep energy shield at 0 as well
@mewch
@mewch Жыл бұрын
Great content btw. Currently binging.
@gungodx
@gungodx Жыл бұрын
from experience this league, the 55% mastery works with PB but cowards legacy belt (which has the same wording as the mastery) does not work
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg Жыл бұрын
Yeah i think this makes sense as PB states that it protects the lower half of your life, so it won't protect all of your life even if you are considered as being on low life from Coward's Legacy.
@idn
@idn Жыл бұрын
Bloodnotch is 100% overrated unless one invests a lot into 1-shot prevention and have no other real form of recovery. Lifegain on hit watchers eye + Immutable Force is just as good in my experience. My TS Poison PF is very well geared, but I have so much life gain through leech, LGOH, life regen, and Master Surgeon + DD, that Blood Notch is barely impactful. Immutable Force, on the other hand, is badass as it completely nullifies stuns and keeps me pumping out dmg, moving, and mapping smoothly which is the best form of softcore defense anyway.
@Sidnv
@Sidnv Жыл бұрын
A watcher's eye mod has pretty significant opportunity cost. It really depends on the build, for a lot of pathfinder builds, I really like double purity watcher's for easy phys to ele conversion. For TS specifically, Vitality Life gain on Hit is exceptional and you can get 100% phys to ele conversion for tanky TS with a single purity watcher's, but there are still some attacks in the game that will multihit you so fast you won't be able to keep up (unless you instadelete everything but then defence is a lot less important) and bloodnotch makes you immune to them with Progenesis. Also, the best part of the jewel is being able to give up on Master Surgeon, because pressing a life flask every 8 seconds is super tedious.
@dzaijn
@dzaijn Жыл бұрын
pathfinder bloodnotch+petrified blood+immutable force with phys as ele creates the strongest character I have ever played. I can afk simulacrum wave 30 with good gear. Absolutely no need for progenesis unless really shitty mods on uber eater
@kylemenos
@kylemenos Жыл бұрын
Could this work with the other mechanic that prevents you from dying by turning off an aura that you have reserved with a unique item. I think its the machanation shield from the guy with the chaos orb head. LUL
@kingkuwait1
@kingkuwait1 6 ай бұрын
Is dod considered overkill with this setup
@kainguyen2230
@kainguyen2230 11 ай бұрын
can i use the combo immutable & bloodnotch + energy mastery without petrified blood in eldritch battery Pathfinder impending doom build ? Does that stun make me feel "staying for a while" ?
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg 11 ай бұрын
If you have a decent amount of ES, the stuns will be less reliable(if you're basing stun threshold on ES via mastery/ring). You do get stunned and it's noticable but not too bad
@cristhianmarquez827
@cristhianmarquez827 Жыл бұрын
If i have eldritch batery, do i still get the 50% chance to avoid the stun?
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg Жыл бұрын
Edit: see Illustru Karma's comment below, but this may be bugged right now, there is a few threads on bug reports from last month
@illustrukarma
@illustrukarma Жыл бұрын
​@@dreamcore_gg you are no longer taking the damage to the Es with eb so you wouldn't get the 50% chance, from my understanding it's when a hit connects and deals damage to you Es that mechanic applies
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg Жыл бұрын
@@illustrukarma I thought this is how it should work since it would make the most sense that it can only provide the ignore stun component if damage hit ES, but I saw some contradicting info(maybe outdated), also there are a few bug report threads from last month. I actually wonder if those 'bugs' were just people using EB with MoM. Thanks for correcting though, appreciated!
@Alex-ro6oz
@Alex-ro6oz Жыл бұрын
Hello. Can u help me with formula? I'm playing mf pf with 50% flask effect, 3200 hp, and stun jewels combo. For example, if I take 5000 hit only with progenesis. It will be 5000 - 37% (progenesis with flask effect) = 3150 hit and 1850 dmg as degen over 4 sec. But if I'm on full life, I will survive. Then with petrified blood. Same 5000 hit and progenesis. 5000-37%=3150 hit 1850/4 degen. Then 3150 - 40% = 1890 remaining hit, 3150 - 60% = 1260 base degen and it will be 75% (21/20 PB) = 945. So if I'm using PB and for example on half life (1600hp) I will die here, because hit will be 1890. I'm wrong somewhere or should I drop PB? Thanks.
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg Жыл бұрын
This is correct because, as I mentioned in the video, with PB at the maximum recoverable threshold of 50%, you're effective life against hits is about 17% lower because you're taking 60% of the damage of hits but only have half of your life. Progenesis is different because it works on full life, so if you can recover from the life loss over time, this is effectively reduced damage taken from hits. You can use PB with Master Surgeon to maintain full life. In this case, you'd have 3200 life and take a hit of 5000. Progenesis delays 1850 damage, lost over 4 seconds. Of the 3150 remaining damage, 1600 is lost from full life to low life with no effect from PB, and then 620 damage is delayed by PB and lost over 4 seconds. You then take the remaining 930 damage and survive with 670 health.
@Alex-ro6oz
@Alex-ro6oz Жыл бұрын
@@dreamcore_gg I'm already using master surgeon, but almost all of the time, my life is not full (flask not recovering enought). So looks like I should drop PB?
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-ro6oz Probably better to drop PB and try to get more flask effect for Progenesis
@Alex-ro6oz
@Alex-ro6oz Жыл бұрын
@@dreamcore_gg Tried. But without PB, divination distillate sometimes not activating even with blood rage buff and idk why.
@TheCosmicAstro-
@TheCosmicAstro- Жыл бұрын
Its strong in combination with other things(many other things) but theyre all EXTREMELY expensive by themselves let alone together. a max roll bloodnotch by itself is already minimum 13 divines which is much higher than the majority of players can reasonably justify spending on a single item let alone a jewel. So it doesnt really make sense for it to be nerfed. You're already spending WAY more than you need to just to get it functional, where you could spend a quarter of the total price for a build that can do 100% of the content in the game.
@imjwmka
@imjwmka Жыл бұрын
Yes and no, it's still busted, price is not somewhat crazy like 200 div for mageblood, to me they might nerf it a bit to keep CI/ES build on par.
@DatLe-pz5pz
@DatLe-pz5pz Жыл бұрын
Does bloodnotch still work with vaal pact?
@dreamcore_gg
@dreamcore_gg Жыл бұрын
Bloodnotch is instant recovery, it's not regeneration so yes, it works with vaal pact
@Melpheos1er
@Melpheos1er Жыл бұрын
Progenesis is so expensive
@sachinjungade9265
@sachinjungade9265 Жыл бұрын
I will say Overpriced 😂😂
@irrelevant12
@irrelevant12 Жыл бұрын
i dont understand the question, if the following premises are true, - Rich poe players arent dumb as fk - the item is high priced - therefore the item has to be useful If for example an item is worth multiple divines when in the past it was worth peanuts then it became useful, There is no secret society price gauging random items (atleast not this league) so what is the point of asking if something like this is overrated, i personally look at poe ninja and when i see an item that looks like trash and be expensive af i look up why is it op, i dont start with the premise of doubting that the whole market is wrong.
@CWOClark
@CWOClark Жыл бұрын
This
@vvwind
@vvwind Жыл бұрын
Why are you paying so much attention to the title anyways? You do realize that most KZfaq titles and thumbnails are clickbait right? It's how the algorithm works. You're out here writing a fuᴄking dissertation on the title without even watching the video lmao
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