"IF WE RENEGE ON THIS WE ARE IN TROUBLE" how prophetic

I'm with Kate Hoey on Brexit. I find it ironic you wrote a book called The Establishment and how they get away with it when you tried to keep the established order in place with the EU

You can have a nice ride without chasing a fox to its death ! Just saying !

'We use the word racist far far to easily these days' thank god this women had the balls to call out Owen on his nonsense.

Owen Jones really thinks he can change the EU !!! how naive can you be, just shows he doesn't understand the EU at all

Kate Hoey is actively fighting against council estate DEMOLITION in Lambeth and very much defending our library services from lambeth New Labour. Owen on the other hand has remained silent on asset stripping by his own party & the demolition of working class homes. Owen is indeed part of the establishment.

Love how brexiteers get called racist ALL the time. I am a brexiteer, my wife is German and my children are half asian. Controlling immigration is not racist.

I voted remain in June 2016, but now would vote Leave. Owen does not seem very open minded, in my opinion anyway.

I agree with Kate Hoey. I was in tune with all that she said. I'm a Brexit supporter. I'm no Tory, but I can't bring myself to support Labour as it is. I would vote against the current set up even if it meant suffering longer Tory rule. If only there were more Labour MPs like Kate Hoey and Gisela Stewart.

Good interview. Nice to see intelligent people disagreeing. That's why I keep up with British politics, for moments like this.

Fox hunting really isn’t the big topic here.

Great interview, Owen. Kate Hoey is my kind of lefty.

Apart from her views on Fox Hunting, I find myself agreeing with many things that Kate Hoey said. Definitely, like the Rand Paul for Socialists. Libertarian Socialists, they do exist.

"I don't believe in animal rights either, because it's a human concept" What a terrible argument. We can make rights for nature as well then. Come on Owen, you're begging the question.

Owen: "my reasons for voting remain are not the same as say Peter Mandleson"...Kate: "Thats good!" LOL

Anyone that thinks it's ok for a pack of animals to rip another animal to shreds and then have the blood of that animal smeared on the face of an infant in some barbaric initiation ceremony is deranged.

A fair and grown up interview. Can't say that of much in today's discourse, so we'll done Mr Jones.

I don't agree with her on some issues, but the more I look into Kate Hoey the more I respect her. She's undoubtedly a good voice for libertarian socialists, particularly the older generation.

Great interview, I agree with Kate on so many things but you can't defend fox hunting, it's cruel and nasty and plays to the worst part of humanity while trying to dress it up as a jolly day out.

Corbyn actively campaigned to leave the EU too. Hey ho.

Not many Labour MPs left who stand for the working classes. Well done, Kate Hoey.

She's from a Unionist Ulster background and Fox hunting was another way of them clinging onto old British culture of the upper classes that they worshiped over there.

I’m a classical liberal and don’t really agree on Owen with much but I genuinely enjoyed this interview this women is quite the interesting character she seems to be all over their place

Bloody hell it's the first time Owen is being normal .

Kate Hoey is my MP. I like this video because you let her speak and conducted the interview in a non-confrontational and fair manner. I still don't agree with her stance on foxhunting, grammar schools and Brexit but I understand her position better now. She is very good on matters of peace and in supporting the Labour leadership. But she is not at all popular with members of the constituency Labour party in Vauxhall mainly due to her seeming admiration for Farage and her awful stance on Ireland in the context of Brexit. I believe she has stated that she will not stand again for MP in Vauxhall if the parliament runs to the full term, so we will get a new candidate next time.

No, what people don't like is the fact that "posh" people do it.

Owen I found it interesting that you did not respond to Kate, when she said the British people were lied to in the 1970' s regarding joining the EU, and what this system was all about?

After 45 yrs he STILL does not get it. The eu is going in one direction and is not reformable - wake up owen!

Surprised to find myself approving of most of her opinions and liking her more than I did before I clicked.

A follow up for this one might be interesting 😅

Hi Owen, great video - just a correction however. Birmingham voted overall to the leave EU, as did the majority of the districts in Manchester. I think immigration was a large reason for the vote, but I think sovereignty clearly played an important role.

She’s a Labour MP deliberately misrepresenting Labour Party policy on Brexit which is that we stay in a Customs Union. What Hoey describes is Tory Brexit policy. That is, she defends May’s red lines.

When you flood the market with cheap labour, it depresses wages and the working class ( the people that would Most notice a small change in earnings) suffer. the only people that benefit are factory owners. As a socialist, this shouldn't be hard to understand... you'd think

If Labour ever want a female PM, they will have to elect someone like this as leader. Level headed , wise and fair, she also has her own mind and doesn't come across as a smarmy career politician that just toes the party line.

Let's not pretend that if we remained in the EU any changes/reforms would have happened. Cameron tried making tiny changes before calling the ref and got laughed out the building, yet alone the larger reforms remainers were promising. The EU is beyond reform. Remember when Scotland had their referendum and the remain in the UK side promised reforms to give Scotland more powers etc? After they voted to remain in the UK the whole referendum is a distant memory and all of the promises have been forgotten about or beytrayed, because they voted to stay so it doesn't matter. That would have happened if we voted to remain in the EU.

Disappointed you didn’t ask the obvious question to Kate on the Irish border issue and the effect Brexit will have there.

'Jones, an extreme far-left activist known for his ceaseless denunciation of normal, decent people, spews his hatred and unashamed lies at every opportunity. This odious globalist and left-wing fanatic can regularly be seen on KZfaq and other media, his face twisted with anger, hurling vile abuse at men and women of all ages and backgrounds. Obsessed with labelling millions and millions of normal, tax-paying, law-abiding Britons as 'far right', his undiluted far-left venom is intended to pollute and poison the impressionable minds of young, vulnerable people. Jones - known by any number of other names - peddles his disgusting politics at far-left rallies and in corrupt, sympathetic TV studios, shamelessly perverting the truth with his evil, unprincipled filth. Jones MUST be silenced at all costs because we don't agree with him...any more than he agrees with us'. Did you like that, Owen? Not nice, is it? Difference is - this is TRUE.

He calls her out for sharing a platform with Nigel Farage, while the type of people the present labour leadership hangs out with makes the BNP look like moderates!

I will never come to terms with that photograph of her with Farage.

Good for Kate Hoey, as she has the gumption to say what she thinks and stands by her beliefs. Shame more politicians can do the same.

Talking about the cost of EU membership is joke when in the last 3 years Since the vote the UK has lost more money then the total contributions it's made ti the EU in the last 40 years.

Well done Owen, another fantastic interview. Especially interesting to explore the divisions within the left and as someone who found Kate Hoey's perspective on Brexit as influential in my decision, I applaud you for giving her the chance to put forward her views without resorting to interruptions, Aunt Sally's and tired tropes. It is refreshing to see that a genuinely liberal, non-interventionist version of the left still exists. Hoey's version of classic liberalism is where the left is at its most appealing.

Leaving the EU will harm the many. The inevitable economic downturn will hurt the many. And it will allow the government to overturn worker's rights. Labour Leavers (a minority of Labour members) will betray ordinary people. And Corbyn, a Brexiter at heart will let ordinary people down. Brexit is isolationism, authoritarianism, nationalism and racism

You didnt ask her about why she thinks the Good Friday Agreement is an acceptable casualty in the pursuit of splendid isolation...? No Ireland questions to her at all :/

The only reason I watched this is because of Kate Hoey(Owen Jones being a bit too elitist/Blairite for my liking).Agree with Kate about most things(not fox hunting)as a Lexiteer who voted for leave initially, mostly because of the disgusting way that the EU commissioners colluded with the ECB and the IMF to exploit the situation in Greece for there own financial gain. Another issue I have with the EU is about the way it drives privatisation and austerity.Something I've noticed that people like Owen Jones and all the other establishment-owned commentators/MPs, refuse to ever mention or discuss. The leave campaign was deliberately engineered by the establishment to be the official voice for Brexit(rather than people on the left such as Galloway,Aaron Baastani,Paul Emberry etc.)so that none of these arguments would ever be heard. Instead, they made sure any opposition to the EU was centred around immigration,so that anyone supporting Brexit could then be easily labelled as racist and so immediately dismissed,thereby avoiding any REAL scrutiny of what the EU ACTUALLY is, and how it operates, and why people who are really on the left such as all genuine socialist Parties,Europe wide and ppl like Tony Benn,Bob Crowe,George Galloway,Authur Scargill etc, as well as many others,including those mentioned above,have always opposed the EU. If you look at their actual legislation,there is NOTHING socialist about the EU. It's set up entirely for the benefit of big global corporations,privateers and banks;the price for which is paid for by the exploitation of the workers and weakest in society,who suffer most from EU driven austerity policies and the EU enforced restrictions on government spending,hence massive cuts to public services Europe-wide..

That was a terrible defence of fox hunting. Come on, you can make a better argument than that.

Recommend watching this in 2020.10/10 would enjoy again.

So... the fox suffers less drawn-out terror in the death-chase, and less agony being ripped apart alive, when she realises that only a few people will be watching? Surely Hoey is a variant of "hooey" meaning rubbish or nonsense.

Kate Hoey is a refreshing example of a pragmatic, realistic, Labour politician. Also, Unlike Jeremy, who is endlessly opaque, and an infuriating fence-sitter, she's a conviction politician who says what she means and who is not afraid to go against the consensus/es within her party. People vote for leaders who don't equivocate. I want to pay tribute to Owen Jones for patiently interviewing so many politicians/ commentators with contrary opinions to his own. That too is refreshing and constructive [journalism] from which I learn much.

We all knew the 'bus' wasn't accurate because Nigel Farage told us from the off it wasn't accurate...but we voted to leave anyway.

Can you not upload the whole video.

Owen, hats off to you for giving us this interview and please don't take the establishment comment as a "jibe" when you would be *far* better served by reflecting on it as advice.What I find *so* refreshing about Kate Hoey is how she can be a Labour MP but still maintain well considered and principled views irrespective of whether they align with the party. Both you and I Owen could take a leaf out of her book as too can all the people commenting here and singling out one thing she said; I too find fox hunting abhorrent yet she completely nailed my position on the EU so am I supposed to lover her or hate her? As it turns out I should try to be more like her and so should we all.

Always wonder watching all the leave supporter statements that none of them puts one single benefit on the table what the UK wouldn't be able to do inside the EU.

‘You’re part of the establishment Owen’ is exactly what I’m thinking...but anyway, it’s nice to see those from opposing positions away from each other’s throats for once. We need more discourse like this. Thanks.

Her views make a lot more sense if you consider her as a kind of 1970s Labourite. Back then the left still had conservative views on social issues and were anti-EU but at the same time were trade unionists and strongly supportive of the workers.

Labour figures like Tony Benn and Peter Shore warned that membership of the Common Market would result in the inevitable relinquishment of our sovereignty. Since that vote in 1975, we have seen this come to fruition especially with the Lisbon treaty. Yet, rather bizarrely, the Labour Party has largely not seen any issue with this, and seem to all unanimously agree that this is a desirable outcome. I think this split in values speaks volumes, and probably accurately sums up the dominance of the Neo Liberals in Labour. Most Labour MP's are very comfortable and happy with globalisation and the concept of living in a federal Europe.

Would love to see you interview Tommy Robinson.

I agree with Kate on so much. Great Kate !

excellent interview.....kate hoey is impressive

This woman would have gotten my vote. She is consistent on issues and even voted against the Labour-led war in Iraq in 2003.

Kate honey awesome one of the few Labour MPS I admire

I wish Reece Shearsmith would do an impression of Owen!

She is the only Labour MP I could vote for

The Remain supporters tend to state that the words on the bus meant that whenever the referendum was over the NHS would get £350 million a week immediately The money of course would not be available till we leave the EU which may be either March 29th 2019 or at the end of the transition period Jan 2021 The 350 million was also a gross figure which didnt take account of money we got back from the EU for farm subsidies etc

It's one thing to vote leave. It's another thing to be laughing and joking with Nigel Farage and claiming he's not a racist.

The EU is about power not economics. The EU cannot be reformed. Kate Hoey is correct in that we will look back and see Brexit as the greatest move in modern British history.

Lambeth was the second highest 'remain' constituency after Gilbralter. She is not only in favour of fox hunting but was chair of the Countryside Alliance. Grammar schools are designed for the lower middle class who cannot afford private education but don't want their kid to mix with the working class and if there were a campaign to eradicate them all, I would join it in an instant. She voted against her own party asking for an investigation into the murder of a catholic lawyer. I have never heard her speak for her borough in which she does not live but I do. I think she now sits in parliament with the party of the 17th century, the DUP.

Well, she was right about the danger of losing Labour votes. But she was wrong about Jeremy.

I wonder where she got her wig from?

Owen Jones should admit that the biggest single lie in the referendum campaign was David Cameron's slogan: "campaigning to stay in a reformed European Union". What reform? Kate Hoey once worked for the (unelected) EU commission, she knows how the EU functions (as did Tony Benn) whereas Owen still refuses to believe that "The European Project" is a new empire in the making.

Its not the health service . Its the National health service .

The bus said "We send the EU £350 million a week. Let's fund our NHS instead" - It implied we could use that money (an unspecified amount) to fund the NHS - it never said "lets give the NHS £350 million a week" - the word twisting must stop.

The EU want nothing for the proletariat they want everything to be privatised, apart for freedom of movement there is nothing good about the EU.

Thank you for pointing out farage is not a racist kate . So easy to tar people with that broad brush !

A very good interview...one can really see her point of view, even sympathise.

Could you please address the UCU pension dispute and the reclaim our university movement on your channel? We need to keep the pressure up now that the strike is over! There is no deficit, it is merely a ploy to shift the burden of financial risk on to pensioners so that universities can expand their business and it comes at the cost of students education, not to its benefit as more staff are not hired in the face of massive increases in student numbers, rather they face pay cuts and precarious contracts, this is the death of public education and if needs to be stopped!

This was a great interview Owen, enjoyed it 🤙🏻

Anything to say about Halal slaughter? Just sweep that one under the carpet, along with everything else. Labour party now totally reliant on the tightly controlled voting block of the population that's being imported to physically replace the white working class.

So there was I this very afternoon on the edge of South London/Kent Borders thinking I am glad I live here because Bexley Grammar School is on my doorstep ( not a co-incidence) so that my kids can have the opportunity that I,as a Working Class lad from near Kate's Constituency in the heart of South-East London was afforded. I , actually, attended the same Grammar School as The Late Tony Banks, Labour Big-Wig. .....Anyway, I digress and so there is this Urban Fox sitting on my front lawn while I am also there 4 yards away gardening and he hadn't a care in the World until he decided to have a stroll round the block :)

Fox hunting is a disgrace! Legal animal abuse should not be going on in any civilised nation. It is cruel to kill for sport, particularly in such a horrific way

why does owen always always ask a question and before the guest has even answered gives HIS view on the matter---- quite poor interviewing skills really

Well done Kate, brilliant responses.

Human sacrifice was also a common event for better harvests for generations in rural areas.

There's having a big tent and there's having the seams stretched open so far you let the rain in.

I agree with you Owen on animal welfare, whats your view on halal slaughter?

If only politics were all about this kind of rational, sensible discussions.

Lovely to see Owen again after his horrific imaginary beating.

"the fox's which are killed are usually the ones which are pretty old and ready to die". and this value is supposed to fill me with confidence ... how exactly ?

I’d vote for her and I’m a Tory.

"London is always in the news..." Because it's the biggest city in Europe and the top 3 city in the world in terms of business and cultural impact? What next, why is Earth given more attention than Mars?

Well done Owen for the political diversity that your guests bring. I support Kate’s views and I oppose Jacob Rees Mogg’s but I like the fact that both were incredibly polite and were very interesting to listen to.

She was let off hook probably a dozen times in this interview. Where was the question about the Irish boarder she Trumpishly asked the Irish to pay for? The blaze way she "read into" something that was emblazoned on the side of bus in font 7800, as if it were Kantian philosophy. The follow up question on Farage not being racist despite calling Obama a "creature", and endorsing Le Pen and Trump. I just heard her articulate a long string of political cliches that have said many times before.

Owen "lets change 20+ other countries" Jones

Birmingham voted leave....

until Owen can have a grown up chat about immigration, he will never get it

So how does she think Brexit is going now?

'I really don't think Nigel farage is a racist' What about the breaking point posters? 'Oh I condemn that' Cognitive dissonance right there

You were talking to her but she wasn't really listening. Not answering what you asked her. At least she's decent enough to look embarrased. I guess her competition in her constituency is very very weak. Trumpish almost she is. Not listening to the ridiculousness of her answers. Eg about foxes. You're very patient Owen. Bravo. Bring on more of them.

I really enjoy Owen Jones' interviews with people he doesn't agree with. It's so refreshing to see someone on the left being willing to argue his point. Much better than the censorious approach to 'awkward' points of view manifested in some of universities. Keep going Owen.

I'd love to see you interview Owen Jones.