Steel man their argument then destroy it. Is this the Socratic/Thomistic method of argumentation? Either way, I love it.

It's a parody of their views, he's trolling them.

Glad he appears to be on the good side.

@@sonofsomerset1695 it's not a parody. It's literally their views. It only comes off as a parody because we know he doesn't believe what he is saying. If no one knew who he was, this would literally be shared by academics across the west as gospel spoken by a prophet.

It's really the only way to become a true master of your own position. If you don't understand your opponent, how can you know that your own understanding is accurate?

James is an apostate leftist. He was excommunicated after refusing to abandon reason.

Not really, in the introduction episode the girl says he voted for Trump because how much he hates Wokeism. Even in his speech he says he's famous for being anti-woke. Watch the video before commenting FFS

He only speaks to absurdity of existence, his own position is equally absurd.

Commenting to keep on eye on the cope in the replies

It will be lost on the shitlibs.

Fookin brilliant, isn't it? Haha!

i think it would have been a bit more clear if he championed white genocide and universal patricide.

You mean Foucault brilliant

he just got 800 books ban

@@chrisrice5926 No, he was able to get school boards ro implement the will of the local population who send their kids to said public schools. Perhaps we shouldn't be teaching children about anal sex, gender queerness, and social injustice. Let's instead teach them how to read properly, do mathematics as a proper grade level, and history and civics..

Hahahaha

With one accusation of transphobia too, just to flex his Woke cred.

Most Muslims in Continental Europe are WHITE

Or honk!

@@bushwacka5187 +homophobia+nazism+other words

You can see their minds being blown by his explosion of irony, simile, truth.

He only speaks to absurdity of existence, his own position is equally absurd.

@@joshuataylor3550 Are you incapable of enjoying satirical measures ?

@@EBDeveloper James Lindsay is a pathological liar.

@@EBDeveloper Commies hate most things because the whole civ is built on things they hate. So why would it understand or want to enjoy anything ever.

He literally argued for the other side. And simply pulled from vastly different authors to find contradiction amongst them which is true with any ideology. You cannot take from a Marxist and then use Ibram X Kendi (a modern day anti-racist activist) and then be like "Oh wow, these ideas contradict one another" and claim this is a strong argument. He arbitrarily decided on a definition of woke when it's origins date back to black culture (not marxists) and doesn't start to be used in a political framework until the 1970s only to become widely used in the 2000s. At the end of the day, his argument is an implied appeal to ridicule that lacks the courage to actually make a claim. And at the end of the day, he debunks his own point by admitting that wokeness cannot go to far. Because as stated by someone else, wokeness is merely kindness, empathy, understanding one other. And how does that ever go to far? I guess we'll never know because James never makes that argument.

@@CourtneyHaynes Kindness and empathy can go too far if it ends up sacrificing your own safety and survival. Such as tolerating your enemies. The same arguments used on behalf of wokeness are also used to justify not standing up to autocrats in China and elsewhere. The victory of these regimes in the battle for global hegemony would reverse all gains made in the past century. Additionally, black activist culture borrowed from and often collaborated with marxists of the day, often sympathetic to those particular regimes during the Cold War. The Black Panthers for instance had a very warm relationship with Mao Zedong.

@@Maelstromme "The Woke/CRT group says personal experience trumps any rational thought --" But that's not what he argued. He only implied an argument that Wokism is contradictory by pulling from different authors who he thinks stand for wokism and who disagree with one another. Whether Black people borrowed from Marxist is irrelevant. They borrowed from many sources. The fact is wokism did not originate from the places he claimed. It's like claiming constitutionalism is actual something else because the founders pulled ideas from other books they read.

tq for that explanation and clarification. lm new to this yt group. tq, spot on.

@@CourtneyHaynes thank you for clearing that up commissar Haynes. Wokeness is simply kindness and understanding like you say. Any evidence of the contrary that we may have experienced is a right wing mass delusion.

rephrase that... He is one of the greatest gender studies scholars in history to the point he discovered gender studies was not real...

@@MBNHedger Exactly he Degendered them hahahahaha

@@Xenumiscagive disingendered

@@MBNHedger He always knew it was not real. But knowing was not enough: He had to taste the the KoolAid to know it tasted bad. He had to drink the KoolAid to know it did not satisfy. He had to guzzle the the KoolAid to know it left one empty. Finally, he had to relieve himself so everyone else could know that it was not KoolAid, but piss all along, and those who demanded that all be forced to drink it had no taste, nor any sense.

"real gender studies scholar".......LMAO....

We are diverse in every aspect except the one where diversity actually matters: Diversity of ideas.

Uh, no. Lindsay strawmans the ideology and then takes down that strawman. Experts in marxism consider his theories connecting wokism to marxism laughable. He doesn't know what he's talking about. And I'll gladly debate how horribly illogical his speech was, but something tells me you don't want that

@@CourtneyHaynes Well, if the experts in marxism say so.

@@MrHorsesongs05 yes, and they will give their analysis for why he doesn't know what the heck he's talking about. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o52Uob1827bbm58.html

@@MrHorsesongs05 I don't know if the previous person is an expert on the matter but Ben Bergis here has expertise in that matter and has studies it professionally. The man doesn't know what he's talking about. And conflates different issues as I can show with another video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i7GBq7SiuJbSc4k.html

@@CourtneyHaynes No, no, hon, we want it. Dazzle us.

What he so brilliantly demonstrated is that woke culture is the objective of going as far enough as possible so as to extinguish any standard, preferences and values from the masses, perpetually.

Thought this was sincere originally and was utterly horrified at his Ibram Kendi suggestions for the woke-police.

@@NextLineIsMine they are very close to achieving this goal. People ask where has BLM gone? They have taken over every industry public and private and the new president of the US have started giving them dominant positions in the government.

He wasn't aping the woke style at all. Only the position that woke hasn't gone far enough. The analysis and style were of Lindsay.

@@NextLineIsMine lol me too🤯

and it wouldn't have happened if one more leftist would have stepped into the breech. They couldn't find quorum so they had to find an opponent to take his opposite position

It's like watching a true wizard. Which of course is apropo

I wanna see him without the weird chin fur!

Yasmin Benoit sure thinks so

You're very generous. I wouldn't estimate that percentage higher than fingers on a hand.

Unfortunately, I am not one of the people who got it - I had to read the comments as I was confused about his true stance because he was being oxymoronic and contradictory.

@@sheveka Yes he is an expert on the academic literature. He was explicit about who he is within 3 minutes of opening his talk.

He seemed to win over Yasmin Benoit the young lady arguing for the Woke side.

He is the One! Thanks Neo! Hahahahahaha

As someone who is actually in the intelligentsia Matrix, trust me when I say that he is not. He just like yesterday discovered Jurgen Habermas.

@@ivanelrino sorry, never heard of you

@@ericaeli3807 Have you heard of Michel Foucault? James heard of him for the first time about a year ago, and he pronounced it "Faugh-call-T." It was hilarious. Look it up. James is a complete charlatan.

sounds like a guy who's getting a bit too high on his own supply to me.

@@l000tube lol, that content-free smear

@@l000tube he killed it and you call him a narcissist

@@TessaTickle Accurate nonetheless.

@@Wingedmagician The only thing he murdered was the English language.

I couldn't agree more. Was laughing hysterically. I've been waiting and looking forward to this for months and it did not disappoint.

His argument against ratifying "anti-racism" in the U.S Constitution in his podcast is brilliant. How can you make all the races equal when you can't even make the races equal amongst each other? Black Americans are 12% of the population but if they were their own country they would be in number 6 of the top 10 economies of the world (1.6 trillion in spending power) right behind Germany. Germany!? The economic powerhouse of europe. But roughly 70%+ of that is in the hands of just 1% of them.

this is not correct.. its wrong and unfair and it makes a mockery of the Union (which is probably a joke anyway) you have 3 people speaking against the proposal all of them very poor orators, the 1st just tries and use a subjective feeling of intelligence to make their point and fails. The 2nd is drunk and just tries to co-op some names and situations into their argument. The third is speaking against the position while cracking ironic jokes.. not right, not fair, not good.. maybe they could not get anybody to speak for “more woke culture” in which case the debate is a “straw man” sorry “straw person argument” .. the three anti wokers were articulate, intelligent informed & able. If anything this debate will just cause further polarisation (something it claims it wishes to avoid) as for WOKE i think I have woke up to the fact that "Woke culture" is just a mind game for the elite and the more we ignore it the better.. if they cant make films, TV shows or supply state education without making up complete bulls1y t then they is jusyt gonna loose the prols.. then that is their problem.. we can always entertain and educte ourselves.... and then awaken....

Which makes the debate unfair, of course, because it should be 4 speakers for, 4 speakers against.

@@matham625 yooooo this guy is spitting facts

@@matham625 i mean I disagree that this was pouring gasoline in the first but I agree with your conclusion 100%

This comment isn't going to age well.

​@@Rabbithole8 only insofar as woke culture doesn't go too far.

How much would you like to bet? Let's go big.

@@hughmac13 The implication is that this will be taken down because of the woke who object to it. It could be taken down because of other reasons. Those reasons can be far less likely, but they must be excluded if the video is taken down. Also, sure, I'm going to make a bet with some random person on the internet.

@@BenjaminABoyce Ha ha, right.

A line so short it looks like a dash

Dat be a biiiig dot!

Wait until you see the dots connected between liberalism and communism (also the same dot)

That's exactly what it is. Wokeness is a communist holding a shield.

@@fizeekpoaster enlightenment and classical liberalism is not the same as just “liberalism” though

"Woke culture is an instagram influencer rolling her eyes at a nuanced, informed argument." that is the image that truly defines our times.

I thought she looked like she was really impressed by his argument, probably because she didn’t understand what was going on. She was primping her hair and laughed in a way that seemed coy and flirtatious, not malicious or conceited. An asexual activist. Gimme a break. For the occasion, she was dressed very provocatively. Guess what you do as an asexual activist? Talk about sex, all the time.

@@ericaeli3807 I thought that too. She giggled dismissively at the silly man at first, but by the end she looked almost as if there was a dawning cognitive dissonance...

As freire, who lindsay likes to quote says, James speaks the word to proclaim the world.

If you listen to his New Discourses podcast, you will have seen that Lindsay can monolog on this topic nonstop for hours on end. Hard to believe that he is a math PHD as well as a well read expert in sociology.

Kendi, page 19, epic

@@martinliehs2513 Math is pretty much the benchmark. If you can do high-level math, high-level language isn't far behind because math is language.

@@stupidanon5941 Agree, however math is much more precise and universal. Once one has mastered the basic arithmetic operations (addition, subtraction, division and multiplication) as well as the fundamental of the base 10 "alphabet" (the digits from 0 to 9), a person solving an arithmetic problem in Omaha will get the same answer as a person solving the same problem in Paris, or Singapore, or Buenos Aires. That is why it is so important that we fight the woke idiots that keep trying to tell us that 2 + 2 = 5.

a "self-own" by wokeist morons

Adverbist!

*Literally

Artistic genius. Like Alex Jones as an indie song, or Donald trump singing once in a lifetime .

@@psylentps6577 he's a mathematician .. not an actor ..

That is well said.

@Chase Williams norskk.is/bytta/menn/dog_park.pdf

@@chasewilliams5128 he was trying to show how easy it was to get woke ridiculousness published in legitimate scientific journals. It was totally satirical

😂😂😂

Damn that's why I think I've seen his face somewhere, now I remember. He was definitely on that side to infiltrate and troll the left. What a chad.

And it truly is risking one's sanity to read that literature. I can vouch for that. I've no idea how he does it day in and day out.

I've seen his Twitter. I don't think Lindsay got out unscathed. Stare into the abyss long enough...

He was radicalized by Feminist Glaciology. Made him physically sick for days, he told the story in recent New Discourses podcast.

@@maintaint3003 Glaciers are misogynist now too? We have truly come a long way in the fight for social justice.

@@richardott3706 Feminist Glaciology had almost nothing to do with glaciers.

Lol, amazed by themselves. That's brilliant.

Cute, but he's not, even most of the opposition aren't in favour, debating is an intellectual excercise, speaking for something you don't beleive is often part of that. Pay attention to the reaction on his own bench. And perhaps glance to the nearest mirror.

@@mostevil1082 I realize that Lindsay is steel manning the "against the motion" position. He does a pretty fair job at it and simultaneously and knowingly is being overtly sarcastic and ironic. And to your point, those two youngsters sharing his bench, indeed, are rolling their eyes at him. But they are doing so, for the very reason I mentioned in my first comment: they don't get it. Sure, they know he's actually for the motion, but they won't understand his points just as they won't understand or try to even understand the points made by others who argue for the motion! It's one of the ways--maybe the primary way--that WOKE remains so stubbornly unshaken as an ideology. But, that may slowly be changing. For the sake of democracy, I sure hope so.

It's tedious.

@@hughmac13 It's not a Tik Tok and it's not broken up by Cenk's Nephew into baby food chunks for you yet.

The last political response to the Woke dialectic was known as Fascism.

@@fuckamericanidiot No. It's just tedious.

@@simpinainteasy680 OK groomer

It's magic how it works. In my experience you can really drive existential dread by holding a mirror firmly into their faces.

They were struck dumb because they had never heard that word before.

Nah he’s more like a Priest

Caught that too, I was dying! 😂

Saint Foucault, is he the Patron Saint of Pederasts?

@@s.c.degrand2064 Same!

"Saint Foucault" is the title of a book by David Halperin, which James was citing. I'm inclined to think that he threw that in there more for the effect from the book's title than for the quote itself, though, hehe.

This made me think of that Gary Larson comic- Recognising the emotional states of a Red Setter!

I first read it woke of art

Indeed. Jolly good show.

Will we see Dr. Manspreader in a Calmversation soon? 🙏🏾

NO......

@@allyourbase888 We just finished a stream...!

@@BenjaminABoyce Thank you. I watched it livestream. 😸

They are, check out: kellie jay keen standing for women. Laurence fox' s reclaim the media, the worldwide Let Women Speak movement. Sheila jeffries work penile imperialism, the male sex right .

Most don't have the time to devote to understanding it in its entirety, as he has done.

​@@ShidaPenns Yes they depend on it being extremely complex in its nature to confuse people and prevent then from opposing it. You need to know hermenetics, gnosticism, hegel, rousseau, marx, the work of the frankfurt school (marcuse, horkheimer, habermas), and then all of the proceeding critical theorists that popped out of it (queer theory, critical race theory) to really understand whats going on. I will say though, its quite extraordinary how hes managed to bring together all of this to explain whats happening. He paints the most complete picture of the ideology that ive witnesse.

Thank the lord he's not actually woke. His speech is impeccable but woke arguments are mostly based on emotion instead of logic. Here he is like a super soldier but his gun loaded with blanks, even so his speaking skills show and flex his prowess in debate.

@@davidli7829 I read about a longitudinal study showing a rise in emotive reasoning (vs logical reasoning) beginning in the early 00s, hitting its peak a few years ago (when the study concluded), WOKE culture is the embodiment of that data.

😂😂😂

@Google Sucks Ass Give me your best example of one of the smartest people of the modern day.

It really was. I don't recall ever seeing anything like it.

he's a man.

@@joshuataylor3550 Which is probably more than anyone has ever said of you LOL!

He really isn’t

@@sixer6er So what is he? 😲

Trans has already dismantled Critical Reconstructionist. The real challenge we are now facing is the WEF and it's cabal of monied Macheavellians.

@@AndyJarman the challenge is not to get wrapped up in their stories, theories and all other means of distraction and disinformation. To keep a clear understanding of the difference between what we know and what we've been told to be true. What we've been told .. is hardly ever actually true. However, what we know ... isn't always true either. Just stay grounded and never lend yourself to someone elses delusions.

@AYSHIA wasRAPEDbyYOURPROPHETatnsix! , when you criticize the literature they say "Pablo Freire, Frankfurt School, etc is some of the most 'cited' literature in the humanities. It's academically credible". When you criticize the ideas contained within the literature they say "These are obscure ideas. These ideas aren't mainstream. They're only being taught in very small specialized classes". Weird how they can be both the most cited topics by professors, but also hardly ever taught in a classroom. It's an insult to the intelligence of a moron to use such a tactic.

He selected himself when they mistakenly invited him to argue the woke side and he accepted w/o missing beat.

@@richardlefaive1944 “mistake.” There is a master behind this. They are trying to hide.

@@richardlefaive1944 true

thats exactly his point, hes literally subverting the woke bs from within in that debate while also basicly explaining that theres no "too far" in wokism...

Journalist adversary. No clue

If you attend those things could you also fight for my right to not have to share the men's toilet with bigger gay men as I'm afraid they're gonna abuse me

Is the next meeting in Afghanistan? If so, I'll see you there. What's the point of having a "let women speak event", in a country where no one is trying to stop women from speaking?

@@nicholasmudrinic4464 Perhaps you haven't investigated those events. You should. Plenty of people were trying to stop women from speaking. They're called trans activists.

@@nicholasmudrinic4464 Antifa and trans activists do stop women from speaking about transgender ideology with threats, violence, and intimidation.

@@nicholasmudrinic4464 KZfaq has endless videos of UK trans activists silencing women by physical violence, intimidation and shouting down.

It's the "spirit of collective tribalism". They can't compete on the race superiority front so they do it on the victim front. Same shit.

🤔

I think you recently found out about the ouroboros and have not the slightest clue what it represents

@@sillygoose4472 I don't think ouroborous is misapplied here. Revolutionary progressivism consumes itself. The French revolution was a good example of how it can play out.

He actually should be more aggressive and quote the most ugly shit possible.

No the one behind him is a journalist who is an adversary. He lost the plot. His GF or something besides him was just as clueless and ordinary.

It will never be far enough.

Exactly. "Has woke culture gone too far" is an easy question. But would things be better if all these woke millennials converted to James Lindsay's politics? That's a much harder one.

@@dinobotpwnz well probably not milenials, I wonder if gen z will rebel against the woke status quo… my problem with wokeness is not their intentions, is their methods… you don’t get rid of racisim by being racists towards white peoples, nor do you end up sexism by being sexists towards men, and you don’t improve acceptance of trans people by denying reality… their methods is what is stupid.

Given James is a classical liberal. Yes. The world would be much better.

@@mom2eando this is why they always end in some extreme orgy of deaths between the killing fields, the great leap forward, and other purges. You can never be maximalist enough in the application of a good idea because all good ideas cannot go wrong.

He's the most well known because of the Grievance Studies Affair which was his best work. After that, he became a boring keyboard warrior.

@@dinobotpwnz You've obviously not read any of his other work, or listened to his 'New Discourses' podcast.

@@dinobotpwnz love it. Bring the cope. Comment more, please. I need these cope replies every day.

@@trollsearching8968 Happy to oblige. There's one FB friend where for his birthday, I'm going to make a happy birthday post in the "translations from the wokish style". It is oppressive to celebrate the passing down of privilege through the circumstances of one's birth, bla, bla bla. Quippy fodder for people online but that's about it.

@@dinobotpwnz perfect!!! This is it. Awesome sauce!

He only speaks to absurdity of existence, his own position is equally absurd.

@@joshuataylor3550Excellent rebuttal. 🙄

Isn't that man the monster who called for "hardening of hearts" to be able to butcher people till rivers of blood etc. for the good of revolution?

"Whatever happened to - Leon Trotsky?" #TheStranglers.

We must have a revolution against the revolution

Pieter Bruegel the Elder has painted aufhaben's conclusion better than most. This is precisely what he was depicting - utter debasement and faithlessness, a critical theory of everything.

It has been said that hell is a place without reason. From there it's not a very big leap to figure who might be behind a movement that wishes to completely deconstruct reason.

The dude with the glasses is an adversary journalist and the smile quickly fades when he stops understanding what James is doing. Watch again with that knowledge.

@@elizabethspence4033 hah that makes it even funnier

they usually sputter back how its applied kindness and not being racist which is usually the very shallow end of what it is and how it gets applied

​@A Fuzzy Creature absolutely.

I think I know what was going through her mind: "You're not supposed to actually explain our crazy beliefs clearly. What is going on right now?"

She was pretty busy just trying to sail straight, what with all six of her sheets to the wind that was rushing straight over head as Lindsay let fly. She was a disgraceful joke as soon as she tottered her hyper-sexualised beskirted ‘asexual’ booty up to the podium.

Me too! It was such a good payoff!