This video talks about the similarities and differences between P-POP and K-POP. Feel free to comment on any clarification and correction. #ppop #kpop #similaritiesanddifferences
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@NoRushIcanDoThisAllDay2 ай бұрын
LIVE SINGING is a deal-breaker for me. If you can't sing it live, you're not a singer, you're just a dancer.
@RowellOlita2 ай бұрын
Idol dancer.
@user-sf5py9kx4kАй бұрын
very true
@BoyKoikingАй бұрын
Ppop with deep meaning lyrics.
@KCar-fx3moАй бұрын
Agree. like a manufactured performer, not an artist
@CalachoochiАй бұрын
Preach it! Korek ka diyan!
@toinkstv4376Ай бұрын
PPop---------------------> Mostly Underrated but Purely Talented Artists
@GioBocoАй бұрын
yes and they live singing performance than lip sync
@RAMA-vz3cvАй бұрын
Kaya mas unang suportahan ang p-pop kesa k-pop 😂
@meilania27862 ай бұрын
Filipino singers are more comfortable and confident in live singing than lipsync because they can express their emotion
@klasiktawanan5300Ай бұрын
Lol! Ppop is most likely influenced by western pop and Jpop that's why Ppop idols always use handled mic rather than Clip/Lapel mic that is to highlight the beauty of their vocal dynamics and harmonization. ALMOST all are using Handled Mics when performing. Kpop's most selling point is their visual (K beauty) and synchronized dance while Ppop is the vocal dynamics and harmonization
@user-xd8kt3ss7lАй бұрын
Live singing is a real deal for me! I pay for the talent not for visuals!! Its A NoNOooOoo for lypsync
@user-kr7yz9kh7i2 ай бұрын
Powerful performance, live vocals, quality voices and quality music its PPOP the future of POP.😊
@malou1969Ай бұрын
PPOP - You cannot be one if you cannot sing. They were selected skillfully. All can sing and dance.. Not just added for visual. SB19 is a complete package of PPOP that is why they are the PPOPKINGS. They are live monsters even in accapela singing plus bonus VISUALS! compose of 5 main vocals.
@yOongi1106Ай бұрын
Filipino din ang choreographer ng BTS sa ilang MV song nila specially kay Bryan Puspos Jungkook favorite Filipino choreographer..FILIPINO talent is the Best!!madagdag ko lang din we Are Western Influence not Kpop Mostly sa mga kanta natin sa Videoke English song..FYI..hindi sa kpop nag simula ang mga makukulay na Buhok at mga kasuotan na mkulay naging trademark nalang nila ito dahil sa Genre na yan sila sumikat.. kaya PILIIN KO PA RIN ANG PILIPINAS 😅❤
@jinkypАй бұрын
true we are more influenced by westernized countries.
@Ethan_XDLАй бұрын
Kaya nga tinawag tayong little brown americans kasi sinusunod natin western culture style. Its slap on the face if they say we copied from our neighbors and yet their template is western music. We're a poor country and its expected we lack the technical resources and funding for artist. If KPOP were not supported by their government you can't see Kpop on the map. But still Filipinos have our own ways and you cannot ignore talent.
@yOongi1106Ай бұрын
@@Ethan_XDL agree ako sa point mo kaya ang laki ng tangkilik sa kpop isa din sa nagpapaganda ng datingan ng gawa nila dahil sa LEARNING SYSTEM na merOn sila same sa JAPAN suportado ng Goverment nila ang MUSICIAN nila. dito lang talaga need mo mag buhat ng sariling upuan mo para lang umangat..
@esperanzatoledo3008Ай бұрын
agree...si keone madrid din na choreographer ng bts ng fire, dope , not today ay filipino din
@RAMA-vz3cvАй бұрын
Syempre kpop ang trend ngayung era Kya mga genZ ang alm nila sa k-pop galing syempre IBA Yung era ng mga 70s 60s 80s 90s early 2k😂 Sample spice girls ...
@littlesugarme9496Ай бұрын
Intense synchronize dancing for KPop while PPop is live singing
@bhouxzrouen8237Ай бұрын
Ppop can danz while singing.like sb19.hlimw s htwan at knthn.
@travelw.b12oo3Ай бұрын
PPOP IS THE WINNER! Very Original, natural and live
@user-sf5py9kx4kАй бұрын
For me, Ppop is more interesting because of it's raw talent shown in every stage performances. Singing live while dancing is not an easy thing to do. It's insane level of talent. Kpop produce good quality of music but not as raw as Ppop. Ppop has similarities in Kpop in many aspects but Ppop is way ahead
@sss91597Ай бұрын
I think one big difference between PPOP and KPOP is that PPOP have *NO MINORS* in the industry.
@user-sf5py9kx4kАй бұрын
it's kinda funny but true😅
@7chandelierАй бұрын
Yung HORI7ON may minors
@mreyes5873Ай бұрын
Hori7on has 2 minors but they are being handled by a Korean company.
@newjeans8285Ай бұрын
@@mreyes5873they aren't PPOP
@mreyes5873Ай бұрын
@@newjeans8285 They are not considered Ppop because of their Korean handler but they are still all Filipino by blood except one with Thai or Malaysian blood.
@melanieveloso3475Ай бұрын
Kpop---- Dancer PPOP-----VOCAL
@gracebl2162Ай бұрын
PPop can also Dance, SB19 Gento, just watch AAA2023,.
@t-gemsАй бұрын
I agree and I prefer live singing rather than lypsinc. ❤
@wall-e9962Ай бұрын
Influence; P-POP is also influenced by OPM- including OPM Ballads, RNB, HIPHOP and PINOY ROCK
@mariaalmirapresto-dalangin3157Ай бұрын
So true. Say it LOUDER. 👏
@LiNaW_28Ай бұрын
This 💯
@baldeagledelta3482Ай бұрын
Well does KPop have this? I mean the variety of genre?
@marchlove28Ай бұрын
was about to say this bec. sa umpisa palng ng vid sabi influence ang Ppop ng kpop😂 haler! Ph hugely influenced by the west!! and noon pa may OPM na tayo🎉
@LiNaW_28Ай бұрын
@@baldeagledelta3482 Meron Naman I am listening to The Rose and Savinnah and Drones. I just don't like idols
@jeancurlygirl6958Ай бұрын
Ppop always live singing. Philippine is a land of talented people.
@baldeagledelta3482Ай бұрын
Big difference are : - PPop low budget and marketing though more talented in every aspect. Ph has been for years rill now dominating international competitions in both singing and dancing. - No lip synch in any performance for PPop - KPop relies mostly on stage productions and visuals - KPop sense of beauty is homogenous. No diversity and one nember eerily looks similar to the other. PPop can have a wider demograph of visuals from Western looking, mongoloidal or Austronesian, Afronesian, mix ethnicity etc... - Matter of time before PPop catches up in global popularity with KPop.
@gracebl2162Ай бұрын
I agree Ppop rely on inborn talent, so you can hear quality vocals and natural swag, something you can just trained for 5 years . Plus Ppop Idol are expected to sing Live in all performances. Kpop - Visual become priority
@RAMA-vz3cvАй бұрын
Kaya dn ng Japan Yan prublema lng sa Japan di nila minarket outside Kya jpop medyu exclusive lng sa knila pero pgdting sa anime worldwide satin kc kulang tlga sa support kung tutuusin na mas natural singers at dancer mga Pinoy Wala lng tlga suporta masyado sa music industry d sana mtgal na sikat ppop😂
@lanieaguisanda6221Ай бұрын
PPop was been long way back but it was not known because only few or TV comp has a control of thier talents, ,
@joannacantoja_ceriales-iq6lbАй бұрын
Advantage of Filipinos ,, they pronounce the english words well ,, because english is their second language
@amycruz5290Ай бұрын
For me is the live vocals or live singing performances,what's the point of paying that amount of money to watch people lip sync 😐 I rather just listen to the radio then..lyrics are also important, sometimes it can relate to life's experiences and can also be a strong motivation to pursue people's goals in life and those song lyrics can be written in the heart and soul of people,this can be remember from generations to generations..catchy songs is only for that moment...just my POV..
@estelitadequina8124Ай бұрын
Totally agree
@amycruz5290Ай бұрын
@@estelitadequina8124 actually I had only known SB 19 early this year and I don't normally listen to pop music I'm more of Rock band music listener but SB 19 is the only pop musician boy group I'm going to listen too because they are very talented musician..Pablo is my Freddie Metcury in pop music genre..if you know Freddie Mercury and Queen band then you understand what I mean..
@estelitadequina8124Ай бұрын
@@amycruz5290 yes I love queen too. And Pablo biased also. 😊
@greghero7720Ай бұрын
@@amycruz5290have you ever watched ken/felip "bulan" that's a rock flavor for you from an sb19 member
@amycruz5290Ай бұрын
@@estelitadequina8124 oh nice..love Queen so much,my favourite Rock band,their songs are lifetime,it can be listen and pass from generations to generations and I'm hoping that SB 19 will get into that path as well..
@Ma.AngelinaPadaoАй бұрын
Well ....P-pop is the best singing,live.....dancing, English,all countries can easily understand P pop...than kpop
@gargoren74Ай бұрын
Ppop more hype now because, just like sb19, there synchronized and stable in vocal and lit.. but kpop focus in dance, and how synchronized and also there beauty standards...
@klasiktawanan5300Ай бұрын
Just to add to your comparison Most of the time Kpop sing in unison while Ppop loves to highlight vocal harmonization
@leeconvento3021Ай бұрын
😂😮
@RESILY16Ай бұрын
PPOP SINGING LIVE WHILE DANCING AND GOOD VOCALS
@shasong4970Ай бұрын
Ppop is multi genre with distinctive vocals and good at harmonization
@user-ux1sf8jw4iАй бұрын
Ppop is good in dancing but for real, if u admire Kpop about their dancin' you'll admire Ppop with their Singing skills. If we talk about their different advantage, i must say Kpop for dancing and Ppop is for Singing. If u dig depper, Ppop strength is more on Singing/Vocal. But Filipino is talented, so i know they can do both more...
@didyouknow4738Ай бұрын
Everybody can dance even me.. but everybody can't sing live with perfect harmonies... except Filipinos... I'm a kpop and ppop fan so I know the difference.. kpop mostly uses tweaking in voice to hit the desired note... kpop rarely do live singing even in concerts..
@leolontoc8408Ай бұрын
1:07 P-Pop started in the 2010s which was a innovation of OPM pop.
@rowenanardo343Ай бұрын
What you dont know is that pop music genrè had long been in the Philippines. It is under the name of OPM( Original Pinoy Music). Not until SB19 emerge and make waves in global music scene and the term PPOP was born. But even before, our pop music is heavily influenced by the west. Filipino used to sing and dance the songs of Michael Jackson, Madonna, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Backstreet Boys, N Sync, Westlife, Spice Girls and so much to mention. Those artists that we looked up to and listen to from the 60s 70s 80 and from 90s the JPop becomes popular in the Philippines.
@estelitadequina8124Ай бұрын
Correct. 👍
@Gail-yk4rbАй бұрын
KPOP - best in music videos , budget and priorities in physical/visual appearances . also. Also has Good singers. But more are more better on dancing . PPOP - lack of support and budget . bless in hardwork , passion and dreams and fighting spirits . Multi tasking . multi talented. Best in fan service . almost all members in the group. Rapper/ singer .some singer/ dancer / rapper . Both KPop & PPop have disadvantages and advantages . clearly . they do'nt copy each styles. Just so happens . only similarity . some P Pop were trained by expert Koreans in entertainment. All Asian pops are inspired by European pop too.
@user-qk7zx2bd8nАй бұрын
PPOP MONSTER VOCAL! 💪🙌
@odetteverano7146Ай бұрын
Dances? Almost every province in d philippines have trad dances and dance competition as welll.. In fact, for ur info philippines dominated in world hip hop stages for years🎉.. Due research be made please❤
@marymaecabrestanteamisamis3216Ай бұрын
I do not agree that ppop is influence by kpop, because first of all before kpop we have a opm na but that time hindi na fucos Ang music natin, Lalo na Ang mga group mostly mga solo artist natin Ang nakilala like fredie aguilar, Lea at iba pa,, that why mas nakilala Ang kpop, also Ang kpop if I'm not mistaken sila ay na inspired sa jpop but like ppop hindi din na bigyan ng attention Ang jpop music
@MichaelDelaCruz-dq7nuАй бұрын
I'm sorry but the content creator obviously don't or have a lack of knowledge about PPOP and or KPOP, pleas make it more accurate for the sake of your viewer ... really just ask us forst, jusmio!!
@crxdelsolsirАй бұрын
What many people don't get is that with live singing with a static mic on your ear piece you cannot vary the distance to your mouth. That means the static mics should capture constant breathing and should sound too loud especially when trying to achieve high notes as the mic cannot be moved further to balance out the volume. That is why Live singers always have a mic and you can see them vary the distance from their mouths to mimic the post production of equalising the sound and also for effect when they are meant to be only harmonising or back ground vocals. All this cannot be done with static mics. That means all these other artists are essentially just dancing/performing. The mics are activated during the beginning to give the intro and the end to give the outro but disabled for most if not all the performance or at the most only a small amount of mic to give it a touch of "Live" sound.
@user-gg3kd1je6xАй бұрын
Personally I prefer idol who can sing really well than dancing, if you're an idol ang sing very well, in this competitive industry kahit ma disband pa Yung kinabibilangan nilang Grupo there's always place na mapupuntahan cla than just dancing Lalo Pat your like there Lang Sa Grupo because U can dance at the end of the your like a back-up dancer and dancing I don't know Pero compared to being Singer most of the time dancer is always the back-up of the Singer. Yeah when they're younger being a dancer is somehow cool Pero when you're older being a pro dancer di na Ganon ka cool, Kaya ang daming idols na na disband or they're just old to be an idol na nowhere to be found than an idol na singer U can see them sing everywhere meaning they have always place to be with.
@cable0419Ай бұрын
If they like lip sync then their mic is useless, they should not be a singer but a dancer
@petunia88Ай бұрын
Definitely, lip sync is taboo in the Philippines especially in performances, thats why they produce high quality vocals on which they are strictly trained. Most of the audience watch for the live singing and dancing at the same time…if its lip sync, they rather listen to itunes or spotify. agility and stability in both dance and vocals is the emphasis, if you watch Ppop in live concerts, everyone says its more than their moneys worth. Its just that Kpop is more popular because they've been in the music scene years before Ppop came to rise. Ppop is surely getting popular, nowadays, its not their peak of popularity yet but they’re surely getting there!
@MahalimaSb19KingsАй бұрын
Mas masarap manood ng concert ng live vocals ang binibida bukod sa galing sa pagsasayaw sayang pera mag iinvest ka sa lip syncing lang🤣🤣🤣 ung visuals kukupas pero ung talent mag sstay yan hindi mananakaw. At Ang ggwapo ng MAHALIMA Inside and out🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵
@donabatiles826Ай бұрын
Ppop is the best no doubt.
@Big_sister31Ай бұрын
Here's my message to @princecoffee2349 in the comment section who said that P-POP is delusional: It doesn't matter if the Philippines remains a third-world country for the next 10-20 years. Look at Bollywood of India. India is not as developed as South Korea, but they were able to establish a highly reputable film industry based in Mumbai that is also recognized globally. Similar to the music industry, I see P-POP and OPM becoming BIG internationally in the next few decades. All we need to do is to SUPPORT OUR OWN. Definitely, we should condemn crab mentality, colonial mentality, and cultural inferiority (the false belief that your own culture is inferior and anything foreign from developed countries is superior) in the PPOP community if we seriously want our own industry to grow and succeed. Thank you!
@ajasuncion6233Ай бұрын
Sorry to correct you. Ppop is derieved from American Pop, Kpop, and OPM or Original Pilipino Music. That is why all groups use English and Filipino language and other Filipino dialects in their songs. Before there is Kpop, Filipinos are very much into American or Western music which up until now we still do together with Ppop and Kpop. You can see it with the number of random Filipinos singing covers of songs of American or Western artists.
@terih.1041Ай бұрын
Tama ka.kaya lang sumikat sa international gumawa sila ng paraan nag promote para makilala sa international at nag fous sila sa Dance at sa itsura karamihan sa kanila. retoke bago ipakilala.kaya alam ng karamihan ang mga korean ang gugwapo.
@luminouslight1959Ай бұрын
To be honest there's one big difference in Kpop and Ppop, and that is Kpop is going down while Ppop is going up. If Kpop didn't evolve then they will continue to fall.
@estelitadequina8124Ай бұрын
Posibleng mangyari If d nila kayang sabayan Ang Ppop when it comes to singing live while dancing. Because Ppop can do both with flying colors.
@RAMA-vz3cvАй бұрын
Kaya kumukuha na cla ng mga ibng lahi mga japanese Pinoy atbp. Natetretend cla 😂
@AEVEROFCАй бұрын
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@Eduardo-qe5bqАй бұрын
Bisaya is one of the many languages of the Philippines not a dialect.
@junevebxxАй бұрын
Agree.
@NadalistadjonelАй бұрын
FIlipino music already has English ang Tag-Lish ballad and upbeat songs since the 70s and 80s. Take the case of VST&Co. Popular Filipino sing and dance group of 90s includes SexBomb and Viva hot Babe.
@khenmarcellana6816Ай бұрын
PPOP is the best in live voices,
@MYSTERIOUSGIRL59Ай бұрын
Yes very well said PPOP is TOP
@JeramieVillegas-dw6wcАй бұрын
Both are amazing no compares ❤😊
@redone4691Ай бұрын
SB19, 1ST ONE, VXON
@Smyc24Ай бұрын
Sb19 vs. Kpop
@estelitadequina8124Ай бұрын
I prefer live singing while dancing than dancing while lip syncing.
@marijucolobong8792Ай бұрын
Kpop Seventeen, exo, btob, mamamoo they dance hards and sing is insane
@pffftuhsuhАй бұрын
Focusing on the quality of the whole performance is doing lip sync?
@darkseer7027Ай бұрын
very informative
@MeljeonjrАй бұрын
Most unique the PPOP AND PURE VOICE. MOST POPULAR Songs Ppop
@marluspandesalАй бұрын
The only difference is one's filipino and the other one's korean. They're both just products to be consumed. Whether or not one's better or worse than the other is a moot comparison. They produce what their market demands. Koreans value production and visuals, hence modern day KPop. Filipinos value vocal prowess and, at bare minimum, a certain level of musicality, hence PPop.
@soul_reaper1611Ай бұрын
PPOP eat CDs most filipinos loiter in karaokes
@imarialenmakinanoАй бұрын
ah basta pra sken ppop prin ang d best ksi pure talent ang ineinvest nila hnd yong panlabas n anyo lang like pacute lng s stage 😊
@RAMA-vz3cvАй бұрын
Ppop sanay sa hirap kyang magttiis dhil natural n lng ang sing and dance kyng pagsabayin Kya d na klngn sobrang haba ng years pra maperpekto kc natural na masasala yung mggling kumanta at sumayaw yun ang advantage ntn talo lng tayu sa quality ng MV mas mgnda lng tlga sa knila dun klngn ntn iimprove on the rise tlga dadami lalo mga ppop artist 😆
@user-zx1mo7hv4zАй бұрын
bago po kayo mag lait sa mga PPOP.. mag reaearch kasi kayo ng mabuti,, late 2000 lang naman nakilala ang Kpop,, but ang mga ppop ay noong mga 1970a ay meron ng OPM,, nauna na ang smokey mountain na nanalong best group music sa malaysia japan at indo nesia,, tapos magsabi sila na ppop nainfuence ng Kpop ,, hindi dahil may nang ppop na nakilala.. ..at ikaw din na contempt creator ayusin mo ang pag sasaliksik para sa ganoon walang mainis sa yo...
@MeljeonjrАй бұрын
Ppop is powerful and pure voice. Kpop is lp sync
@SamutSari_atbpАй бұрын
Ppop is influenced by jpop and western pop. Lately nlng ung kpop.
@FanBoyDollArchOldАй бұрын
PPOP RISE!
@Hoshi_Yuki20Ай бұрын
For me..Bigbang is more vocals than dancing..
@laudhumility399Ай бұрын
Videos like this only set idols & fans up for fanwars. Instead of bridging both communities together, y'all are contributing more to the conflict. Also please get yo facts straight and be more in depth.
@princecoffee2349Ай бұрын
Judging from the comments, you shouldn't expect to get support from JK, BTS, blackpink, or any of the other KPOP acts by antagonizing and dissing them. KPOP is already mainstream worldwide and I don't see how PPOP can gain international recognition by antagonizing some of the biggest fandoms in the world right now. It's not smart and you're only abusing yourselves. If PPOP's international recognition hasn't improved over the years, check if this isn't the cause.
@melvinstarita638Ай бұрын
Pound for pound ppop wins.
@armyhere4287Ай бұрын
Of course, PPOP won because they are singing live,unlike KPOP, it's just lipsync.
@live7630-vo3cwАй бұрын
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@ladydianecorpuz6157Ай бұрын
KPOP - not allowed to do this and that as we want to take care of your image for fans to love you PPOP - we're gonna do what we want to do, you're just a fan know your place 😂
@user-qk7zx2bd8nАй бұрын
Legit hehe
@maodilucz9034Ай бұрын
😂😂😂Legit!
@estelitadequina8124Ай бұрын
Your comment be like: K-pop = plastic or programmed robot Ppop = genuine/ totoong tao. 😂
@user-fc1to8ku3lАй бұрын
U cant say quality performance if they are lypsincing it where ppop are singing while dancing thats we call remarkable performances that's why kpop will going down they cannot concur there lack of talent
@izami9963Ай бұрын
Let me correct you.. wrong ppop songs have deep meaning also... and wrong Korean training don't exist in hybe 😅
@maryannpenaranda2472Ай бұрын
Kpop cannot sing live , i tunes
@sammygomez5652Ай бұрын
PPOP not use lipsync autotune and great but only one surpassed Billboard kpop While Kpop is opposite and more in billboard
@sammygomez5652Ай бұрын
Kpop is more feminine looking men than ppop
@ghost-wh3icАй бұрын
This is a joke
@marijucolobong8792Ай бұрын
Kpop even thier hard choreo is insane + sychro, The best live vocals is Mamamoo, Exo, Btob, Seventeen, Infinite and super junior..
@princecoffee2349Ай бұрын
Ppop sb19 youtube subscribers 3.4m, bini 0.7m Meanwhile blackpink 98m 3.4m subscribers can not even go in top 100 of kpop. Stop delusional.
@darkwingduck7627Ай бұрын
Wait 10 years in the making Ppop could go far wide international.
@Big_sister31Ай бұрын
You're everywhere posting this type of comment. You always say that P-POP is delusional, and yet you keep consuming PPOP related videos. 🤷
@jakemartinez6678Ай бұрын
Sino ba ang delusional? Ikaw na isang feeling Koreano o kami na proud sa Pinas? At pinagmamalaki mo talaga ang subscriber nang KPOP na alam naman natin na dahil may support sila financially ng kanilang government at dahil sa pera gumagawa sila nang millions of accounts para gamitin pangsubscribe sa artist nila at pag vote sa kanilang artist para manalo. Imagine ipalagay natin na may 200m bawat kpop group pero tinalo pa rin sila sa 3.4m na subscriber nang PPOP. Kaya huwag mong ipagmalaki yong 100m nang KPOP kasi halos subscriber nila ay puro fake account at hindi maka cast nang vote kasi nalimutan na password!
@user-mf2tr3bl1oАй бұрын
Say what you want to say. It takes some time before PPop can reach that level. KPOP has established first than PPop (just starting). It was in the video if you 've watch it. Kpop: worldwide, PPop: Asia. It started just a year ago after the release of gento.
@Big_sister31Ай бұрын
@@user-mf2tr3bl1o agree 🌏
@live7630-vo3cwАй бұрын
PPop has never made the Billboard Top 100. Not a group has succeeded yet. There is no proof that it is popular. It is too arrogant
@nenitabombase66Ай бұрын
Check sb19, top 2… bazinga
@karlosaclolo942Ай бұрын
huh? Bazinga surpassed BTS Butter in Billboard
@sammygomez5652Ай бұрын
While Pinoy more on support KPOP than PPOP. Lack of support, no music industry for international
@jojobear140Ай бұрын
SB19 was number 1 on billboard for 7 weeks beating BTS. They also won Army fan wars against the seventeen fanbase. Do your research before embarrassing yourself. 🫥 PPOP is getting more and more popular. And im happy it is. PPOP shows culture, authenticity, and humbleness. Look into SB19, the most popular filipino boy band. They have their own company and produce everything from scratch. Not saying that kpop doesn't, but SB19 is as real as it gets. Lets support both KPOP AND PPOP