Pace, pace mio Dio! best comparison EVER!!!

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Opera Türkiye

Opera Türkiye

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00:00 Renata Tebaldi (1922-2004)
00:34 Zinka Milanov (1906-1989)
01:08 Maria Callas (1923-1977)
01:41 Leyla Gencer (1928-2008)
02:10 Eleanor Steber (1914-1990)
02:38 Claudia Muzio (1889-1936)
03:04 Birgit Nilsson (1918-2005)
03:36 Ghena Dimitrova (1941-2005)
04:09 Celestina Boninsegna (1877-1947)
04:50 Montserrat Caballé (1933-2018)
05:21 Leonie Rysanek (1926-1998)
05:54 Rosa Ponselle (1897-1981)
06:23 Virginia Zeani (1925-0000)
06:57 Anita Cerquetti (1931-2014)
07:24 Aprile Millo (1958-0000)
07:58 Elena Souliotis (1943-2004)
08:31 Galina Vishnevskaya (1926-2012)

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@alexandrelopes3193
@alexandrelopes3193 Ай бұрын
...TEBALDI, see her in live recording black and white. Best ever!
@marioj34
@marioj34 Жыл бұрын
Tebaldi, Tebaldi, Caballé/Milanov ❤
@ASerranobaritone
@ASerranobaritone Жыл бұрын
Tebaldi, Callas and Nilsson
@stephenbeale4765
@stephenbeale4765 10 ай бұрын
tebaldi simply owns this aria - no other version i have heard to date can match her recorded performances either in artistry or in vocal power and beauty
@aaronmeece8658
@aaronmeece8658 5 ай бұрын
Leontyne Price?
@omarsomehow69
@omarsomehow69 Жыл бұрын
There are many to discuss, but the excerpt being shown for Tebaldi demonstrate her at most splendid form here. This B - flat is enormous.
@gr__msk
@gr__msk Жыл бұрын
Nilsson is much better than Tebaldi here...
@ginopietracupa4305
@ginopietracupa4305 11 ай бұрын
@@gr__msk show you in what Nilsson is better than Tebaldi here ? In the only thing that is better is the tape of Nilsson has a much sound and Tebaldi tape is mediocre sound, but don't confuse the quality of the sound of the tape with the singer and the voice
@gr__msk
@gr__msk 10 ай бұрын
0:17 and 3:21 comparison. Nilsson's bb5 here is more comfortable, she attacks the note straight on, unlike Tebaldi who is scooping here. Also, Tebaldi's Bb5 here is kinda pushed and tense compared to Nilsson's which is incredibly free and effortless, while still maintaining the huge sound@@ginopietracupa4305
@BentonHess
@BentonHess 8 ай бұрын
And where is Leontyne Price?!?!?! For my money, hers was the best “Pace, Pace” I ever heard.
@Ruffiello
@Ruffiello Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Caballe actually sang this passage as written, in one of her recordings,
@ransomcoates546
@ransomcoates546 Жыл бұрын
I think the Tebaldi is the Scala recording of the aria. The entire piece shows her in spectacular voice. ‘Che grandezza’. It’s a clear sweeping of the field for her. (Despite the strange tempo I’d put Boninsegna next.)
@stefanocautavera
@stefanocautavera Жыл бұрын
Tebaldi.
@ZENOBlAmusic
@ZENOBlAmusic Жыл бұрын
Tebaldi does come out on top here great acuti. Nillson and Cerquetti were also great.
@den3963
@den3963 Жыл бұрын
Для меня 1 Tebaldi 2 Nilsson 3 Callas. R. Tebaldi просто невероятная!
@jquiroga7820
@jquiroga7820 Жыл бұрын
Miss Tebaldi is unbeatable!. So much greatness and squillo in all her register, it's a true miracle
@Sutherland2
@Sutherland2 Жыл бұрын
Tebaldi is the weakest. Clearly her top was disintegrating already. Within a few years she couldn't even sustain high notes. Sad. Love Renata, but she had a very weak technique.
@familypondman
@familypondman Жыл бұрын
@@Sutherland2 To much forward singing and pushing, loud for sure!
@MorenoCassals70
@MorenoCassals70 27 күн бұрын
@@Sutherland2OOOHHHH YEsssss Tebaldi precisely had weak technique of course Sutherland2 ! , that's why she sang opera for 30 years and her voice never wobbled and she retired with her voice: firm and well placed forward and with all the dynamics until her last concert Tebaldi is the only one in this video, whoever's voice does not change in the upper register, all the others change their voices on top, Milanov's top has nothing to do with her middle, the top is clear. Maria Callas the same and added to that it is strident, Gencer's voice directly is totally frayed in top on forte, Dimitrova has defective vibrato, Caballe her voice loses quality in top en forte her high note is clear in color and unpleasant. Tebaldi is the only one whose voice does not change her on top, Tebaldi Bflat is perfect, well supported and with unwavering vibrato, she simply does not have irregular vibrations in her high notes
@DimitrisLian
@DimitrisLian Жыл бұрын
Tebaldi, Tebaldi and Tebaldi.
@jamesryan6008
@jamesryan6008 4 ай бұрын
I would also add Tebaldi. She could sing the telephone directory and I would pay good money to hear her.
@stefanodallasen796
@stefanodallasen796 3 ай бұрын
​@@jamesryan6008 Il miglior acuto finale è della Tebaldi
@darwinvilla9794
@darwinvilla9794 Жыл бұрын
Tebaldi, la migliore..
@gonzalocuadra8657
@gonzalocuadra8657 Жыл бұрын
If we are faithfull to the original score, I have to applause Steber!!! Wonderful stamima and brightness. In the traditional ending sure we have winners in Tebaldi, Cerquetti, Callas! For me Caballe push too much her voice, the high note of Nilsson is a Natural Wonder but the fraseggio of the italian sound is too alien. Ponselle was one of the greatest Leonoras but the recording is acoustic and cut the size and beauty of her voice 😖 And, yes, I also miss Leontyne Price here 😊
@Shahrdad
@Shahrdad Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I actually prefer the traditional ending to the written ending; it seems more dramatically affective than jumping from the F to the B-flat. Nilsson's voice never sounded idiomatic in the Italian repertoire. As you say, it was just too alien. Even her Turandot never really worked for me. Callas's recording was done right near the end of her massive weight loss, and though she still had some of the vocal heft of her heavier days, the voice was slimmer and she was starting to deal with the widening of the vibrato that came along with this massive change in her physique, but her interpretation of the aria is truly heartbreaking. I have yet to hear someone sing "Alvaro io t'amo" with the same explosion of emotion on the word "t'amo."
@rosekokose2031
@rosekokose2031 4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊
@davideferrari5702
@davideferrari5702 Жыл бұрын
Qui la Tebaldi e la migliore...
@fabiana.4640
@fabiana.4640 Жыл бұрын
Even if Tebaldi is my favorite in this role, many of the others are really outstanding, wonderful Leonoras.
@wotan10950
@wotan10950 10 ай бұрын
TEBALDI !! And to my surprise, Millo was outstanding too. I saw her onstage several times, it's sad that her prime years didn't last long.
@user-mp3fb7by4w
@user-mp3fb7by4w 7 ай бұрын
Aprile Millo è stata molto amica di Renata Tebaldi, che le ha dato numerosi consigli . Non faceva lezione. La Tebaldi non ha mai avuto allieve ne’ ha mai insegnato.
@user-mp3fb7by4w
@user-mp3fb7by4w 7 ай бұрын
Poi aprile Millo è l’ultima grande voce da lirico -spinto, proprio come la Tebaldi . Sono voci sempre più rare. Perché non vengono individuate e vengono rovinate in genere verso un esclusivo repertorio drammatico.
@oktaygozcu4799
@oktaygozcu4799 Жыл бұрын
OMG!! I was waiting for this🤩🤩
@enteronanupbeat
@enteronanupbeat Жыл бұрын
thank you for this incredible post 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
@Pachinanonim
@Pachinanonim Жыл бұрын
Definitavamente Renata Tebaldi.
@alexeyizmirliev64
@alexeyizmirliev64 Жыл бұрын
La Zinka e bravissima, ma Maria e sopra di tutti!
@davideferrari5702
@davideferrari5702 Жыл бұрын
​@@alexeyizmirliev64 la Callas qui e l'ultima...questa opera non è cosa sua...poi basta mettere la Callas dappertutto non ha cantato tutto meglio delle altre anzi .. le vedove callasiane le peggiori...
@wotan10950
@wotan10950 10 ай бұрын
@@davideferrari5702 Absolute true!
@valentinoporseo7544
@valentinoporseo7544 Ай бұрын
@@alexeyizmirliev64 Ma Maria è Zinka chi sono ? Ma perchè non portate rispetto a tutti gli artisti e la smettete di chiamarle come se fossero vostre amiche di classe ...che nerviii
@valentinoporseo7544
@valentinoporseo7544 Ай бұрын
Qui si analizza solo l'aria ,ma cantare tutta l'opera specialmente in teatro è ben altra cosa ,La Tebaldi è sicuramente una Leonora di Vargas da manuale, personalmente amo anche la Cerquetti ,la Gencer e la Callas ,delle "giovani "direi che Aprile Millo è notevolissima .
@mmjhcb
@mmjhcb Ай бұрын
In spite of the recording limitations, the greatest female singer who ever lived to be recorded is Rosa Ponselle. No one can ever match that seamless, lush, glorious voice with technique and artistry to match. No one.
@ER1CwC
@ER1CwC 9 ай бұрын
There is an obvious winner here. But a shout out to Steber too. I'm not sure how she would've fared in the whole role, but she is always exciting. For some reason, the image of a whip always comes to my mind when I hear her high notes.
@iraklijanashia5567
@iraklijanashia5567 Жыл бұрын
The most clear articulation and unmatched tonal quality here belongs to Leyla Gencer, her "Son giunta" from 1957 performance is out of this world. All the presented sopranos are fantastic but in this piece I would prefer Tebaldi and Gencer, of course. This mix gives also Idea how perception of the singing/portraying the role has changed other the time, nothing like this is happening anymore unfortunately.
@lutandomhlalase4416
@lutandomhlalase4416 Жыл бұрын
Try Tebaldi's son giunta
@iraklijanashia5567
@iraklijanashia5567 Жыл бұрын
@@lutandomhlalase4416 I listen and enjoy her performances immensely. They are totally different singers and Gencer's agility and maneuverability makes her superior for me, she always adds a lot of intricate nuances. Leyla does not posses same squilo though, Renata Tebaldi had been gifted.
@lutandomhlalase4416
@lutandomhlalase4416 Жыл бұрын
@@iraklijanashia5567 Gencer has an amazing voice and technique that allows such flawless maneuverability. But for this specific aria she lacks a great deal of squill as her head voice is similar to Price's. Tebaldi just perfect this aria and the role of Leonora in its entirety.
@corradoroda940
@corradoroda940 8 ай бұрын
Tebaldi! Perfetta . Milanov… brava!
@69brancaleone
@69brancaleone Жыл бұрын
Tebaldi spettacolare, and then i choose la divina Muzio.
@nathanielwilson-ro8lh
@nathanielwilson-ro8lh 3 ай бұрын
Interesting choices. Interesting exclusions. I don’t need these posts to tell me who was best or better in this role and this post won’t change that reality for me either!
@DiomedesDioscuro
@DiomedesDioscuro Жыл бұрын
I think I'll go for Tebaldi.
@josewasi9588
@josewasi9588 7 ай бұрын
Tebaldi
@antben8992
@antben8992 Жыл бұрын
Da grande estimatore della Callas devo purtroppo dire che non è tra le migliori,
@BellaFirenze
@BellaFirenze Жыл бұрын
EVER!!! And don't you forget it! Where are the versions by Yma Sumac and Florence Foster Jenkins?
@jamesryan6008
@jamesryan6008 4 ай бұрын
Florence Foster Jenkins recorded THAT? While she was at it, why didn't she record "Casta Diva"? Lol
@alicansalmann
@alicansalmann 2 ай бұрын
Guys, it is really crazy I do not know why, but when I hear Leyla's voices, I can figure out what the stories are about. She is not only a great singer also acting whit her voice.
@zeculi
@zeculi Жыл бұрын
Aquí Tebaldi gana a la Diva Callas.
@bodiloto
@bodiloto Жыл бұрын
Avercene oggi dei soprani come queste Attrici Meravigliose. Chi è la migliore può dire solo questo intenditore sensibile chi ha sentito le loro voci durante le loro recite dal vivo . Il resto è del fumo . Più di 65 anni sto ripetendo la frase che una registrazione sovente è una illusione dolce 🍭… Bellissime voci . Grazie ! il vecchio
@bodiloto
@bodiloto Жыл бұрын
@@EmilyGloeggler7984 Più di 70 % di questi soprani li avevo sentito dal vivo. E tu piccolino chi hai sentito dal vivo ? Te lo dico io, la Netrebko… no comment il vecchio
@gokceturkmen6015
@gokceturkmen6015 Жыл бұрын
Sempre LEYLA GENCER❤
@22aqualia
@22aqualia 19 күн бұрын
Antonietta Stella, Leontyne Price and Raina Kabaivanska.
@CarlosLopez-zc3xb
@CarlosLopez-zc3xb Жыл бұрын
Leontyne Price is missing, for me, one of the very best in that role.
@opera.turkiye
@opera.turkiye Жыл бұрын
Yes, unfortunately I miss some artists :(
@omarsomehow69
@omarsomehow69 Жыл бұрын
She was a little bit too small by a definition. And certainly small for this role as well.
@draganvidic2039
@draganvidic2039 Жыл бұрын
@@omarsomehow69 Because lyric soprano and role is written for at least a spinto.
@omarsomehow69
@omarsomehow69 Жыл бұрын
@@draganvidic2039 her voice is hollow. Gabriella Tucci is a lyric soprano who sang the role with some success, which is not absolutely for dramatic soprano.
@Pachinanonim
@Pachinanonim Жыл бұрын
​@@omarsomehow69 lo mismo con Milanov, Caballé e incluso Steber.
@flavioleonarangogomez384
@flavioleonarangogomez384 Жыл бұрын
You forgot in absolute to Leontyne Price, the most grant dramatic soprano of siglo XX
@user-mp3fb7by4w
@user-mp3fb7by4w 7 ай бұрын
Leontyne non è un drammatico. È uno spinto.
@stefanodallasen796
@stefanodallasen796 3 ай бұрын
Le ho ascoltate di nuovo tutte e sono tutte all'altezza a parte la Muzio che fa compassione. Ponselle e Boninsegna modeste anch'esse ma forse dipende dalla scadente registrazione di allora. Callas e Nilsson deludono e la Caballe brilla solo nell'acuto. Nei difficili stacchi fra i 5 o 4 "maledizione" la più centrata mi sembra la TEBALDI con il prorompente acuto finale. La migliore ?
@radames5855
@radames5855 Жыл бұрын
Tebaldi -Steber
@alejandraponce5629
@alejandraponce5629 8 ай бұрын
Odio que separen el último "maledizione" o hagan otra cosa. Las únicas que no lo hacen son Boninsegna y Tetrazzini (aunque no aparece en este video).
@correasilvio2010
@correasilvio2010 Жыл бұрын
Leyla Gencer your acute is fantástic!
@ginopietracupa4305
@ginopietracupa4305 Жыл бұрын
Gencer acute is always ugly, Gencer voice frays , disarms in the forte
@correasilvio2010
@correasilvio2010 7 ай бұрын
​@@ginopietracupa4305listem Suicídio Gioconda from Leyla Gencer, is wonderful strong Voice!
@jamescantorne3720
@jamescantorne3720 5 ай бұрын
Boninsegna!
@VadimZhilkin
@VadimZhilkin Жыл бұрын
Nice, good job But I suppose you've forgotten two good singers. The first is Angela Gheorghiu. Her Pace, mio Dio is very expressive and her jump by a quart in the arid final is seamless and gorgeous. The second one is Anna Netrebko
@aaronmeece8658
@aaronmeece8658 4 ай бұрын
Netrebko’s renditions are awful.
@VadimZhilkin
@VadimZhilkin 3 ай бұрын
@@aaronmeece8658 really? Yor're kidding
@VadimZhilkin
@VadimZhilkin 3 ай бұрын
@@aaronmeece8658 really? you shold be kidding, shouldn't you?
@pedromotta9324
@pedromotta9324 Жыл бұрын
Ponselle!
@drnivek
@drnivek Жыл бұрын
Steber! Brava! Come scritto! Ponselle also.
@RubyRosaRudy
@RubyRosaRudy Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Ponselle’s 1923 acoustical recording, rather than her far superior electrical remake, was used in this otherwise excellent compilation.
@pablodemarcos5379
@pablodemarcos5379 Жыл бұрын
Lastima que no hay Maria Caniglia, asì mismo Leontyne, Molnar-Talaijć, Antonietta Stella... 😢😅
@SUPERTOM99
@SUPERTOM99 6 ай бұрын
Con tan pocas notas valoramos el final de un aria pero no todo. Tampoco sabemos si es su mejor interpretación.
@rosekokose2031
@rosekokose2031 6 ай бұрын
❤❤❤😊😊😊❤❤😂
@judyjones2475
@judyjones2475 Жыл бұрын
MONTSERRAT forever the best ❤
@operadoc
@operadoc Жыл бұрын
Callas, tebaldi, zeani, cerquetti, souliotis were the best
@draganvidic2039
@draganvidic2039 Жыл бұрын
Ponselle, Cerquetti, Boninsegna & Nilsson (dramatics) have the best sung last note. Tebaldi and Millo (spintos) were good too.
@ginopietracupa4305
@ginopietracupa4305 Жыл бұрын
Ponselle last note is the worst in the selection, Cerquetti could not opne much on top. Tebaldi has the best last note. (Aprile Millo is not a spinto but a fake spinto, her voice was small)
@terrymac6
@terrymac6 Жыл бұрын
Steber had a good Bb here as well
@omarsomehow69
@omarsomehow69 Жыл бұрын
@@terrymac6 but she was sharp, however.
@oktaygozcu4799
@oktaygozcu4799 Жыл бұрын
@@ginopietracupa4305 Can you explain why did you said Aprille Millo is fake spinto?
@draganvidic2039
@draganvidic2039 Жыл бұрын
@@ginopietracupa4305 Check your ears or learn more about voices and recordings.
@draganvidic2039
@draganvidic2039 Жыл бұрын
Maledizioue (Caballé)
@iraklijanashia5567
@iraklijanashia5567 Жыл бұрын
She does know how to invent things 😊but adorable and one of the greatest nevertheless
@fabiana.4640
@fabiana.4640 Жыл бұрын
And Ponselle: Maledezione
@valentinoporseo7544
@valentinoporseo7544 2 ай бұрын
un grande problema della Caballè ...perdere le lettere per strada
@billystrachan3119
@billystrachan3119 Жыл бұрын
So few sing it as written
@billystrachan3119
@billystrachan3119 Жыл бұрын
your contributions are always worth viewing, it is always interesting to hear different singers interpretations
@artdanks4846
@artdanks4846 Жыл бұрын
1. Callas 2. Nilsson 3. Ryssanek. Again, too bad Eileen Farrell was omitted. She would be #2.
@Emacosa
@Emacosa Ай бұрын
Well BUST MY BUTTONS!! 🐦🐦‍⬛🌷🌷💞 Ha! Ha! 🐦🐦‍⬛🌷🌷💞 I have to take a Scat Nap from this MALIDICIONE! MALIDICIONE! MALIDICIONE! My GOODNESS! Ha ha! What the Hell! Who created all this MADNESS .... 🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷 I am ROLLING on the FLOOR .... The last time I ended up on the floor was in the middle of SHIRLEY BASSEY la Bamba! 🐦🐕🐦‍⬛🌷🌷💞🙃🤪 MALIDICIONE🤪🙃 crazy crazy crazy
@omarsomehow69
@omarsomehow69 Жыл бұрын
Milanov - 29/11/1952, MET broadcast Souliotis - 1966, Teatro di San Carlo
@stone301
@stone301 Жыл бұрын
Very few sadly have fully balanced integrated registers :/ only really muzio and ponselle. Tebaldi wins for most impressive sonority however, but the rest didn’t have uniformity through their range, having an awkward girare or screamed high note
@M.Stabile
@M.Stabile Жыл бұрын
Dusolina Giannini is missing. 😢
@opera.turkiye
@opera.turkiye Жыл бұрын
You can link below the video if you wish.
@opera.turkiye
@opera.turkiye Жыл бұрын
I can forget some artists :(
@M.Stabile
@M.Stabile Жыл бұрын
@@opera.turkiye here my friend kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebWjjLFezsrem5s.html
@jiso5232
@jiso5232 Ай бұрын
The best one is missing here. Caniglia: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNSgoNSqsrm0mac.htmlsi=Eo7BvNXxtdKL9JDW&t=254
@operadoc
@operadoc Жыл бұрын
No price
@leoviridis
@leoviridis 3 ай бұрын
Callas, Boninsegna and TETRAZZINI. A half of sopranos from the list are singing with falsetto
@arnaldocarpio8842
@arnaldocarpio8842 2 ай бұрын
The “maledizione” of Callas are just thrilling and perfect diction.
@riccardowarwick
@riccardowarwick 24 күн бұрын
Well, I'm Italian, like you, I guess... And what I hear is "maledizionü." Her voice is wobbling on Bflat, anyway.
@MrZdenkic
@MrZdenkic 3 ай бұрын
La Sultana...!!!
@germanoehlke4179
@germanoehlke4179 Жыл бұрын
ZINKA MILANOV - THE BEST !
@fabiana.4640
@fabiana.4640 Жыл бұрын
She was really a superb Leonora
@liguten
@liguten 11 ай бұрын
CABALLE, bien sûr
@fabiohero6354
@fabiohero6354 2 ай бұрын
1 Callas, da pelle d'oca 2 Tebaldi 3 Zeani
@achmedmohamed4708
@achmedmohamed4708 Жыл бұрын
Leonora MUST sound young! She is unmarried and has no children. Females who sound close before or behind the menopause I cannot accept in this role. They sound like their own old mothers and aunts. Callas, Gencer and Dimitrova sound like grandmothers.
@DiomedesDioscuro
@DiomedesDioscuro Жыл бұрын
I don't really think they do.
@achmedmohamed4708
@achmedmohamed4708 Жыл бұрын
@@DiomedesDioscuro Then you like old mothers in the parts of young girls. Butterfly and Manon f.ex. are 15 years in the first act! I will not hear their old mothers or grandmothers in this roles.
@alexeyizmirliev64
@alexeyizmirliev64 Жыл бұрын
La Bonisegna sbaglia tutto!
@fabiana.4640
@fabiana.4640 Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha you made me laugh. Best comment 😂
@sandrogabrielli3895
@sandrogabrielli3895 3 ай бұрын
La sultana poi la cerquetti e infine te aldi
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