Pacific Pale Ale | DOES GMO YEAST MAKE BETTER BEER? | ft Berkeley Yeast

Pacific Pale Ale | DOES GMO YEAST MAKE BETTER BEER? | ft Berkeley Yeast | Hops & Gnarly Home Brewery

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8 ай бұрын

GMO beer yeast is a new tool in the brewing tool belt. In the beginning, GMO beer yeast focused almost solely on liberating thiols from malt and hops to boost tropical fruit flavors in NEIPAs. But more recently GMO beer yeast has turned a corner. Yeast labs are turning their attention to other goals and create GMO strains to produce lactic acid, eliminate diacetyl, and pretty much everything in between.
Today we're trying to get closer to answering this question. Does GMO yeast guarantee you better beer? Now let's make some beer!
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@Marceloluizz 8 ай бұрын

Miss hop & gnarly videos. Nice to see you back. Tks and cheers from Brazil!🍻

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

Cheers!

@ElementaryBrewingCo 8 ай бұрын

Good to see you back, Dan! Cheers 🍻

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

Cheers man! 🍻

@vruychev 8 ай бұрын

You're back! Happy brewing and cheers 😁

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

Cheers! 🍻

@NWsmallbatchBrewing 8 ай бұрын

He's back ! Missed your videos. Thanks for posting a new one !

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

You bet! More to come! 🍻

@jaggersbrewingco 8 ай бұрын

Good to see a new video! Awesome looking and interesting beer! Cheers Dan!

@HopsANDgnarly 7 ай бұрын

Cheers buddy 🍻

@BearBeach79 8 ай бұрын

Great to see back Dan! And brewing like a boss 💯

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

Hey cheers 🍻

@finspin4984 8 ай бұрын

Welcome back. It’s been too long.

@peclass428 8 ай бұрын

I’m not overly a fan of using yeasts that take away from hop character. To me there are two types of NEIPA on the market, yeast forward and hop forward. I personally prefer hop forward beers that let hops shine. Hops can have such different characteristics between lots too. LAIII is just so great as it imparts some nice bio transformation characteristics but still let the hops shine through. Relying on yeast character can make beers 1 dimensional and boring. I’ve been able to pick out most thiolized yeast beers I’ve had since the profile is just so similar. Great video and cheers.

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

+1 for any London strain in a IPA. I like that we’ve started looking beyond thiols at things like diacetyl and lactic. Who knows what they’ll come up with next 🍻

@MasteringHomebrew 8 ай бұрын

Love Hornindal kveik. Super interesting GMO stuff. Science rules.

@SeanehKelleh 5 ай бұрын

If you've used Lutra, you've used a GMO version of Hornindal.

@MasteringHomebrew 5 ай бұрын

@@SeanehKelleh Lutra is just an isolate not a GMO. They did not do any gene editing with it. I do know omega does have a few GMO yeasts from their CRISPR program but if lutra were GMO it would not be allowed to be sold here in Norway. The sale of GMO yeasts (and GMO food in general) is illegal in the EU. I had to get some sourvisiae sent to me since its prohibited to be sold in Norway because of the gene editing.

@Tomtiburon 8 ай бұрын

I wish it would be available in Germany😢 absolutely promising❤🍻 cheers

@robbrasmussen7568 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Dan! I’ve tried Omega’s 3 thiolized strains and wasn’t happy with the results. My west coast, NEIPA and pale ale all had the same general flavor which was somewhat “unnatural “. I’m hoping Berkeley gets to the point where they’re selling homebrew pitches.

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

I’m hoping for the same! They have some pretty wild offerings

@user-bg7dw9zx4e 8 ай бұрын

What precursors were you hoping to get out of the mash hop?

@PortlyGentleman 8 ай бұрын

yum!

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

Cheers man 🍻

@philipctruman9624 8 ай бұрын

I made my first IPA with a thiolized yeast, which was delicious! But I feel like I need to try it again to see if my recipe holds up on its own. Thiols are fun but I’m wondering when it’ll catch on at a larger scale, only seen one or two breweries near me offer them. Interesting to experiment with for sure. Also, cool to learn you’re a designer too!

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

Give it a shot with a traditional London strain I’d be curious if you notice differences! Here in Denver you definitely see them but they’re also still using classic NEIPA strains. Cheers man!

@Thewretchedwilly 8 ай бұрын

Honestly, I’d be happy if we made a positive (negative?) impact on the hops market. (I mean a drop in demand). The demand is just insane and the lupulin shift in the market shows no signs of stopping. Less hops, more availability, smaller financial impact on breweries wallets all sound like great things

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely! Change in tastes and preferences creates even more demand and more or less mono cropping of hops. But I also don’t want people to think it’s the only way to make good homebrew

@michaelepstein7172 8 ай бұрын

That beer looks awesome! Surprised omega hasn’t done a thiolized Kviek up to this point. Curious how the fermentation went. Did you ferment it hot or just room temp? Did it ferment super fast like normal Kviek? Also, I’ve noticed with the omega thiolized strains(Star Party especially) that sulfur can be real problem. Sounds like this wasn’t an issue here but curious if you tried doing anything to tame the sulfur. Thanks and glad you’re back!

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

Yea kveik seems like a no brainer. I let it ferment at room temp also testing those new mini unis and it fermented fast like you’d expect from a kveik. Super clean no sulfur. I think that usually happens when using certain malts but I forget which ones specifically

@oneoeightales2772 8 ай бұрын

In essence, they're new tools and you have to find the way to use them best. All the OG strains have been used many times over and we know what to do with them to coax certain flavors out of them. I've used thiolized strains in multiple ways and some of the dried yeasts that have been modified. Can't get clean or expected flavors and can't brew traditional lagers with a certain yeast, they all have their own thumbprint and it's our job as consumer/user to make beer from the yeast backward to really hone in on making proper beer.

@HopsANDgnarly 8 ай бұрын

That’s it exactly 🍻

@Mikkogram 8 ай бұрын

I tried the in europe legal beta lyase yeasts and i am not impressed. Tried 3 parameters at a time. Italian Eraclea Malt + a) just mash hopped (Saaz) b) mash hopped and phantasm c) mash hopped, phantasm, whirlpool hops and dry hop a and b were basically the same. Maybe some wine character in the phantasm sample, which makes sense if you overload the wort with sauvin blanc grape skins. The dry hopped one just tasted like a normal dry hopped pale ale

@Mikkogram 8 ай бұрын

and yesterday I talked to a brewer in Berlin who worked with Omega Thiolized yeast doing a collab and even he said it is just marketing and not really worth the hassle. But i think the ALDC yeast could be a game changer

@SLM3573 8 ай бұрын

no GMO in Europe I tried a non GMO version of these Thiol yeasts and was not impressed it has some sort of unnatural flavour. It did have some fruit character but nothing like expected I even mash hopped with saaz to give even more precursors for the yeast. I think its been a fad which will die off. I have heard mixed things about the Omega ones too