Harley Davidson Shovelhead Getting a New Electronic Ignition

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Pacific Mike

Pacific Mike

Күн бұрын

Harley Davidson Shovelhead is getting a new Single Fire, Dual Sparkplug, Dual Coil, Computer Programmable Ignition System. Another "Repair by Replacement," repair.

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@gasgas2689
@gasgas2689 4 жыл бұрын
At last it is good to hear the technical advantages of dual plug ignition and electronic ignition from someone who clearly knows a lot more than just how to adjust a clutch. Lovely stuff Mike, that was a treat to watch.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@joshuaatkins5197
@joshuaatkins5197 Жыл бұрын
Love the idea of running a switch for changing the timing. I might look to incorporate that somwheres else. Brilliant. Honda vtec guys eat your heart out.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
We can all learn from each other.
@jasonallen3842
@jasonallen3842 3 жыл бұрын
You remind me of when I was a kid trying to build bikes .my buddies dad would let me hang out and chop bikes. He built model a &t. Your show feels like he's still here. Thank you so much. 😁
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You. I'm pleased to be included in nice thoughts.
@mikerapp8163
@mikerapp8163 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of electronic ign. Install. Thanks Mike.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@joehovanec1985
@joehovanec1985 4 жыл бұрын
We want to see you building that project bike! Thank you for all the videos and the information.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. Me too! Nothing goes as quickly as we would like. And things cost money, and what needs to be repaired gets repaired, and you fix your teeth and you smog your car and you replace tires where needed. And, oh yah, the project bike takes more time than planned.
@bneering154
@bneering154 3 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 i have an 81 shovel 96" stroker that is running dual coil dual plug heads single fire and this same dynatek ignition. Im told you should retard the timing about 5 degrees with dual plugs. How do you set yours? Im not sure if i can just program that in, use the stock curve 4 which is 32 degrees or set the tdc mark forward in the timing hole? Thanks in advance for any input
@michaelmitchell5909
@michaelmitchell5909 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike,....i truly enjoy any content you put out for us...thank you for what you do sir. I can't wait to see the project bike come to fruition!.....it would be a great honor to ride with you!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. I'd like that too.
@kjellblomstrand2497
@kjellblomstrand2497 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Mike. Thank u for xplain the electronic ignition. Once again it sounds easy when u talk about it👍. Looking forward to see more on the project bike👍. "The Swede"
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. More to come.
@manuelrivera6873
@manuelrivera6873 4 жыл бұрын
Good video quality and sound. Mike is very knowledgeable as a result of all his years on the Harley Davidson. His explanation concerning the hemispherical combustion chamber is very good and easy to understand why they put 2 spark plugs in each cylinder. Thank you Mike for sharing your knowledge to people like me who has not owned a Harley but can appreciate them thru you!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that!
@londonglide
@londonglide 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike. Great Videos. Had a 79FLH with the original 79/80 electronic ignition. Ended up fitting a Crane hi4 single fire. Made a big difference to starting and general running. Love your videos, and enjoy watching those old sleds getting some old school care.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@pappabom1221
@pappabom1221 4 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation about position of the sparkplugs, never thought much about it, and dual fire actually makes sense. I entered the world of electronic ignition on my 80" Shovel -79 this summer and I agree that I'm not totally crazy about the VOES, but it seems to work fine so far. But it was huge job to make space for it under the FatBob-tank, very, very tight. Thank you for another inspiring video.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. Glad you liked it.
@chriscollins8875
@chriscollins8875 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos! I recently inherited my dads old shovelhead and with a lot of help from your videos, I’ve now got her running and ready for the road.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Thank You.
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@pastorbobncc365
@pastorbobncc365 3 жыл бұрын
Love hanging out in your garage have a blessed week my friend.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You. And, you too.
@jeffreyfox8250
@jeffreyfox8250 4 жыл бұрын
Always great content !
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@keithlim6749
@keithlim6749 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Mike. I have a rebuilt 1979 80” Shovel and am running a VOES switch with a Ultima ignition. The Ultima is a Dyna module repackaged as a Ultima and cheaper. The bike is kick only with a Super E and 99% of the time starts on the first kick.Tatro Machine in San Diego rebuilt the motor and has software to program the module for kick only applications.He did his magic and as stated earlier, the bike starts 99% of the time on the first kick.The Shovel runs like a violated ape.Keep up the great work !
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!.
@charlescastell4638
@charlescastell4638 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez, I love this hands-on material, and getting my hands dirty. Thanks Mike for helping me to understand more about what I am trying to do. You are the greatest1
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@MrBadgas
@MrBadgas 3 жыл бұрын
Had to watch this one again since you just posted a new video to show the custom programing feature. Good stuff.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@deadheadlights
@deadheadlights 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mike! I love the switch for the different curve. I have never seen that before. Great idea! All the best. Al
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@michaelyarmie4858
@michaelyarmie4858 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike good video tonight... While I was out on the road this evening about 8 or so miles from home. It started to spit a little rain. Lightning and thundering. Then the rain got a little heavier. More sky lightning. And then it started pouring so hard I had to stop. Thankfully i wasn't that far away from a gas station with a canopy over the pumps to seal some refuge . Well by the time i got home the only thing dry was a little spot on the top of my head under my helmet. Man it poured hard.. oh well that's how it goes..See you out on the road..lol.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I'll see you there, but let's wish for a clear day.
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@sylvainblaney9379
@sylvainblaney9379 4 ай бұрын
The ultima ignition is basically the same as Dyna just rebranded under a different name,really good ignition system
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 ай бұрын
That's good info. I'll have to check it out.
@mikelandis9985
@mikelandis9985 3 жыл бұрын
Im new to the shovelhead world.i got an 84' fxwg shovel with some s&s parts. 93 cubic inch. Im not a mechanic at all, that is untill i noticed i was spending more times on the side of my bike rather on top enjoying my bike. So thx to you pacific mike. I am a shovel rider and mechanic.lol well not mechanic but learning.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
That's great. Who knows how much hidden talent you possess?
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@deanphillips8270
@deanphillips8270 4 жыл бұрын
Love that bike of yours, its a work of art! thanks always enjoy your videos
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@craigpennington1251
@craigpennington1251 4 жыл бұрын
That is a nice cool system you have. Learning all the time you have a video. Great stuff always. Thanks a bundle. Last time I heard dual plugs on a Shovel was 1977 and those guys were Bonneville bound. That bike was fast.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Mine is a 77, but we didn't dual plug it until the early, early eighties.
@craigpennington1251
@craigpennington1251 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Was there a kit or did you just drill & tap?
@craigpennington1251
@craigpennington1251 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I never could fine any info on this subject then or now.
@pugloverg6671
@pugloverg6671 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of spark and ignition.....
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@dsshowerpan
@dsshowerpan 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos! Lots of love from Alta Loma, CA.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You. We'll meet somewhere, when the shows start happening again, Born Free, Hippy Killer, Chopperfest.
@zombiedog4343
@zombiedog4343 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! To quote Tom Petty..."The waiting is the hardest part" look forward to seeing the parts come in for the project bike. Stay healthy!!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I'm trying. You take care too.
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@Chewy-Da-Redneck
@Chewy-Da-Redneck 4 жыл бұрын
Another educational video!! I love the ol' Shovelheads... Always have, ever since my first one (76' fxe in 2004, 79' flh custom in 2006 and a 79' fxe in 2014.. that was also my first street bike wreck). Listening to you talk about This shovelhead is overwhelmingly exciting! I know that sounds weird and kind of goofy but, I just really loved both my shovelheads. I say both as in two, because the 79 FLH Was a basket case,, I had to sell it after my motorcycle wreck to pay for medical bills. . . Anyways... I really really appreciate your knowledge and the content of your videos. 🇺🇸😎👍
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. That's very rewarding to me.
@The78CJ5
@The78CJ5 4 жыл бұрын
Another very informative video Mike . Be Safe!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@dimitrisnickolas9530
@dimitrisnickolas9530 2 жыл бұрын
This is like a bike university! Thank you so much for doing this!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You for "attending."
@charlesrockit6352
@charlesrockit6352 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff brother Mike. Ride hard ride safe be well
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@alanmcclusky
@alanmcclusky 4 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend I am a fan of duel plug heads I used to have a Thruxton Bonneville with a four plug head as the triumph head is one piece so good for you my friend the more efficient and quicker the burn the better so take care my friend love duel plug heads regards Alan.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. And Alan, a ride on that Triumph was probably awesome.
@tarmak968
@tarmak968 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video Mike! It makes me want to buy an older bike to play on!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
You should!
@chrispiazza7487
@chrispiazza7487 4 жыл бұрын
I'm feeling your pain. I've got parts at various places for my build (a 1935 Studebaker Commander coupe) that I can't wait to get back so I can continue on. And I'm NOT getting any younger.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
What a great car. Nice project.
@chrispiazza7487
@chrispiazza7487 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Thank you sir! You are welcome to stop by anytime. I'm in the City of Vernon.
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@1PhilHarmonic
@1PhilHarmonic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for all the groovy information.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@jobuck893
@jobuck893 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@rickeysmith3774
@rickeysmith3774 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, I still have my plastic plug run it up to 2000 rpm and have my buddy move the points plate while I held the timing light. If I was in the hills a lot I would put the mark just a tad towards the front, good times 😎
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Right on
@getoffmygrass6974
@getoffmygrass6974 4 жыл бұрын
Good evening Mr Pacific, quite a tough topic to squeeze in 15 minutes but to the point. Technology has done wonderful things for our scooters. Take care of yourself Mike
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. And, you too.
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@elsdp-4560
@elsdp-4560 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU...for sharing. Fantastic contents. I got educated. Appreciate your videos.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@mrscrapper3331
@mrscrapper3331 3 ай бұрын
Too cool!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@Freedomfighter916
@Freedomfighter916 4 жыл бұрын
Great job
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@havegrinderwilltravel5
@havegrinderwilltravel5 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool vid mate love ya bike i just pick up a restore 1979 flh on friday night cant wait to start tinkering 😃
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! Have fun!
@timothyputzke1250
@timothyputzke1250 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting show. I'm running points and condenser on a 78 shovel. Nothing even close to your ignition but it works for me. I carry a extra condenser and points in the saddle bag. You probably already know this, but in the event someone doesn't. The points for a 1960's General Motors 6 cylinder 235 cubic inch engine work well in a Harley. You do have to do a little modification using a file on the points bracket. If you purchase new points and compare to the points you took out you will see what I mean. Thank you for another great video. Keep the rubber side down and have a great 4th.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
You too. Thank you for your input. I carry a points plate and advance mechanism. But your input is much appreciated and I hope our viewers read what people like yourself send in.
@vanislandsteve
@vanislandsteve 4 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍🏻
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@roiangeloangeles729
@roiangeloangeles729 4 жыл бұрын
I had to stop cleaning my car, in order to watch my favorite man!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@ricardoquijano8501
@ricardoquijano8501 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding information.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@mikeyshoemagoo0384
@mikeyshoemagoo0384 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this one.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Good. I always hope I clear enough.
@LonesomeNomad137
@LonesomeNomad137 4 жыл бұрын
As usual, well done 👍🏽. My mechanic called and said my baby isn’t getting fuel ⛽️. Can’t wait for the project bike 🏍 and I can’t believe 2 people gave you a thumbs down 👎🏽, now that really blows my mind.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
You can't please everybody. Looking forward to the project bike myself. I still have other things to do at the saame time. So, we'll just do them all.
@keithparr8880
@keithparr8880 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know you could do new tech on the old Shovel! Super cool 😎
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Shovels aren't that old.
@PanM8
@PanM8 4 жыл бұрын
Keith Parr, you can run electronic ignition on a Panhead too. Theres a plate that drops in the stock distributor. Hotter spark and consistent. I also have put an electronic regulator on the bike. The generator doesn't work as hard now. I still have the big Delco regulator on the bike for original look. I made a plate to mount the electronic regulator under the bike. Been on there for about eleven years now.
@cameramanmike2072
@cameramanmike2072 3 ай бұрын
👍🙂
@dawg141
@dawg141 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video!! I'm running the original Dyna S system with the mechanical advance. Love it!!!!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I ran one for years and loved it. I went to this system because it came out and I had to try it. Again, this bike was my test bench for years.
@dawg141
@dawg141 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 When finally built my Shovel about 20 years ago, I first went with the Crane Hi-4, which burned out in about 2 years. Then back to points, Which reminded me of why I was excited when electronic ignitions came out. Then I went with the Dyna, and no issues since. Keep it simple, at least for me!
@alstone5257
@alstone5257 2 жыл бұрын
wow thats cool, i worked on a drag car pit crew years ago did not even have that at the time love it Harley tuner bikes
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
I've been playing with it for quite a while. It teaches me stuff. You can try tuning differently and get immediate results, make note, then make you changes, all of it quickly. Glad you enjoyed it.
@clivewalker5465
@clivewalker5465 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike , You have entertained me [ and many many others ] , so , if you have the Time , a little True Tale . I also Twin Plugged my Harley in the late'80's , fast forward to about '94ish , Standing outside my Local H.D. Dealers , and a New Harely Rider was looking over my Motorcycle , and of course noticed the Twin Plug Heads . He asked me why , and I explained that Harely had to conform more and more to noise and emmisions Reg's , and , Hondas Flagship , Expensive NR750 with oval Pistons had not really caught on , and Honda had been left with shelves full of Oval Pistons , H.D. had done a deal , and I was on the Experimental Motorcycle , with Honda oval Pistons and needed two Spark Plugs . Funnier if you had been there , with my Buddies listening , and trying to keep staright faces . Hope I have not bored you too tears .
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I always trie to educate my customers enough to keep them from embarrasing themselves. You're a bad kid. You're just picking on this guy. I hope he gets even. You get to pick on him, but then, you gotta give him his turn.
@bghankhernandez
@bghankhernandez 4 жыл бұрын
Guy, girls listen to this guy. OG HD. BIKER . 👍👌. MAN THATS A VETRAN 👌😎
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. But, it's just age.
@richchenier
@richchenier 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Age and Wisdom! Your sharing is helping me restore a shovelhead
@richardhartley7094
@richardhartley7094 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome that you run technology with your classic bikes,cool guy Mike 👍🇬🇧
@everettcalhoun8197
@everettcalhoun8197 4 жыл бұрын
I have run a Dyna single fire dual plug set up on a 90 inch shovel stroker with a five speed and a 22/40 tooth final drive. The bike would get almost 50 mpg on the highway with a Super B. I think I was just barely off the idle circuit at 80 mph. A single fire set up just has a very distinct sound to it but that was 30 years ago though.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@vincekelley639
@vincekelley639 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike I like your stuff man
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@92xl
@92xl 4 жыл бұрын
Did this to my shovel 5 years ago. Have had zero ignition issues since.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's pretty nice.
@stanroberts4820
@stanroberts4820 4 жыл бұрын
Great information, but no more 100 mph wrecks !
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Message received.
@DavidEKells
@DavidEKells 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@ricardobooker1704
@ricardobooker1704 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome.
@jamesnorman7552
@jamesnorman7552 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another good one Mike. How about an Alternator / Generator charging system test ,? Stay safe.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Those are several different tests. We'll do them as they come up. Thank You.
@rebelking68
@rebelking68 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike 👋 good video ,again 👌 i have old ingnition ,with old Beetle’ s Parts on it
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. That's at least some decent Bosch parts.
@rebelking68
@rebelking68 4 жыл бұрын
Pacific Mike , Yes , German Parts
@danadiggins793
@danadiggins793 4 жыл бұрын
Wow Mike that’s the most tech on an old bike I’ve seen...cool
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you buy one new and keep it forever, and use it as your "test bench."
@djosephp67
@djosephp67 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike thanks so much for another great video... I always enjoy tuning in.. So listen I've got a question for you & I apologize if this topic has possibly bin covered in an earlier video. I'm guessing that I've watched about 75% of your content & scanned thru but I may have I may missed it.. It's about your heads & exhaust on this beauty Shovelhead.. You get a good look at about 5:34 in the video. I really like the way your set up with the four bolts instead of a single one.. Is this something you machined up yourself of is available for purchase to public kind of thing? Maybe Exhaust options with there pro's & con's of design etc could be a topic suggestion for a video in the future... Anyway if you have a minute to reply would be much appreciated.. Take care of yourself Mike.. Cheers from Dave in Canada..
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Dave, those are STD heads. They are very high performance and a real pleasure. To my knowledge they are not available at this time. They were produced with three bolt exhaust ports. I love that feature. Of course, you have to fab your own pipes. I think Paughco produced some drag pipes for them. They also came with dual spark plugs. Neat stuff. Cheers to you.
@djosephp67
@djosephp67 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply @@pacificmike9501.. I guess I should've known that. I considered myself pretty lucky just to get my hands on a new set of drag pipes last summer.. Have a good one Mike..
@tubsVR-if7rt
@tubsVR-if7rt 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍right on A lot of good detail In the video.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@d-lowz-no9931
@d-lowz-no9931 3 жыл бұрын
Your awesome man.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@SWATT101
@SWATT101 3 ай бұрын
Just had a Vulcan unit fail...I happened to have the points set up that came with the bike...fired right up. Going to run that for awhile till I remember why I switched them out in the first place lol
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 ай бұрын
Interesting.
@avg113s
@avg113s 4 ай бұрын
Top stuff as usual , I've read and watched loads of content about setting 1340 evo ignition timing , any chance of knowing your take or methods of setting up on these motors dynamic or static methods ? Lovin the videos 🙏.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 ай бұрын
Thank You. Using a stock electronic ignition in them, it's by guess or by golly. I'm a little better than that. It's trial and error. Using programmable ignitions and setting according to the manufacturer is better by far.
@lisar3006
@lisar3006 4 жыл бұрын
Two of my friend with shovelheads that switched to electronic ignition had a fit kick starting them after they did. One bike is stoked one wasn't. both are 1977's have you seen that yourself. I still have points in my 72 FLH and it starts very easy with the kicker.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is, being able to retard far enough to start easily, then being able to advance far enough to run well. There needs to be broad enough adjustment. An electric starter is much more forgiving. If a unit is programmable enough to give you enough timing choices, it's fine for kick starting.
@lisar3006
@lisar3006 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 My one friend had a bum battery and the only way to start his 77 was push it. I got to say nether guy has the maintenance habits I have. Thanks
@jtmendez12
@jtmendez12 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike great video! I like how you hooked up the VOES to a toggle switch. Could I do this with my Panhead also?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You. Well, you'd have to have an electronic ignition system with two advance curves in it.
@rickyricardo976
@rickyricardo976 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Mike. It cleared up a couple of things for me. One question I have (maybe a dumb one at that), how and what bracket did you use to mount both coils?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 ай бұрын
I used Dynatek brackets for their coils.
@tonycurtis4427
@tonycurtis4427 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@kingmontana6
@kingmontana6 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, love the videos. Learning a lot. Had a question for you that the rest of the commenters could help answer. I just picked up a 72 Shovelhead, Its got a super E carb and looks to be completely stock other than that. Id love to make it into a true roadworthy bike, not afraid of long road trips. Do you have any advice on upgrades or maintenance that I should begin on to Improve reliability/rideability?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
How is it geared? Is it turning too high an RPM level at freeway speeds? Does it get hot? What you need to do is ride it. Start with small trips first. You'll soon know what you need. It's all about you.
@ajkylen
@ajkylen 3 жыл бұрын
great idea thinking about upgrading my 1995 Harley Davidson Electra glide classic I have a Crane FireBall HI - 4E Motorcycle Ignition module and I have the VOES switch and I'm running a CV Carburetor on the bike she is running great but I have had the ignition module for a number of years. and it is probably due for an upgrade after seeing your video I'm thinking about doing the same thing. any advice or changes you could recommend would be much appreciated thank you for all of your videos always look forward to watching with my wife and our dog as well.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
You sir, are obviously doing something right. I applaud you, your wife, and your dog. I wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving.
@RedRiderCanadaBC
@RedRiderCanadaBC 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there Mike, I’m wondering what your opinion is on the Crane Fireball HI-4E external programable ignition modules? I recently had my duel plug S&S Shovelhead stroker motor rebuilt and the guy who did the rebuild for me was pretty adamant on my replacing this ignition with one of the Twin Tech ignitions for inside the cone. What do you think is best for me to be running for optimum performance? Thank you for time.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
Every mechanic has his favorites and usually, for good reason. Then he gets familiar with dealing with it and face it, you're going to like what you know how to deal with. On my Shovelhead, I use the Dynatek 2000I PC. I don't recommend brands.
@RedRiderCanadaBC
@RedRiderCanadaBC 2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 thanks for the input!
@miketerry8283
@miketerry8283 4 жыл бұрын
I have a shovel 73 like yours s&s duel spark plugs, I bought a duel coil bracket. I have a Dyna DS-6 duel fire ignition... Q) looking at Dyna DC-2 1.5 ohms x2 are these the correct coils? I assume short jump wires coil to coil? What spark plug wire do you recommend on this engine and plug wire routing information plz. Thanks for the channel ur my go to guy.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I go with Dyna's recommendations on anything they make. They know. They tell ya.
@BrewCityRider
@BrewCityRider Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Mike. If you don't mind, where did you pick up your extensive knowledge on all things Harley?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
Nobody knows "all things Harley." It goes on forever. And there are people who have forgotten more than I will ever know. But I did grow up in a gas station in San Bernardino, California. You go to sleep to that sound growing up there. Just a love and a hunger for it. Harry Fryed and Willie Nelson did a song called "That Roar of Dirty Thunder." It pretty much explains it.
@jessesmith7276
@jessesmith7276 2 жыл бұрын
Nice ... Thanks
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@scruffy4647
@scruffy4647 2 жыл бұрын
Mike, I like to revisit your videos to get more insight. I am late to the party again. I did an upper rebuild on my 83 shovel. I had points but converted to electronics. The bikes runs good. Good fuel mileage. 175 degrees with an added oil cooler. I kept the engine stock. I have a super e carb on it. My question. When I check the plugs after a ride, they're darken and not that tan color. Not oily. Probably running rich. No dark smoke out of the exhaust. I tried the lean mixture adjustment on the carb, but it's not improving the look on the plugs. Someone mentioned that it's ok to run it a little rich so the engine runs cooler. Thoughts?? thanks.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
I like to run a little rich. There are folks out there that run right up to the edge of too lean, and they run too warm. A little rich is okay. You could try a slightly leaner low speed jet and see how it runs. Again, a little rich does tend to run a little cooler.
@glennmassengill3532
@glennmassengill3532 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike! Thanks! Question I’m using the same basic setup... Dave Mackie dual plug heads, 9:5.1 pistons, dyna 2000i Ignition. Problem is the long plugs are resistor plugs (autolite 4265), where the short reach plugs are not (autolite 4275). Any advice or recommendations on correct plugs to use? Thanks again, and enjoy the channel!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I ran exactly that same setup for years. Dave Mackie is one of my favorite people on earth. I used Champion plugs, RJ12YC on the right and RN12YC on the left.
@glennmassengill3532
@glennmassengill3532 4 жыл бұрын
Pacific Mike thank you sir. I’m excited about getting this rebuild done. About a week or two from firing up the Engine. Looking forward to the Mackie heads / dm580 cam. The engine builder swears by this combo. 👍
@sbaisden100
@sbaisden100 4 жыл бұрын
Mike: What is that negative battery terminal bar you use on your shovel to make hook up easier? Is it an off the shelf item or something you just made? Where do I get one? Thanks for all the great content.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. It is a piece of brass. I buy the stuff at a local hardware store. It comes in like about a two foot length. Then I cut it and drill it to whatever I need.
@haroldwiser2641
@haroldwiser2641 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty high tech stuff tonight! 🤓
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I hope not boring. I had to replace the module, so, that's what I talked about.
@williamquire2115
@williamquire2115 4 жыл бұрын
I am rideing an 83 so it is titled shovel it is a built bike aftermarket frame delcron cases I have no idea what is in side but runs as good as my old twin crap but with a lot more fun right now it is running on points and I kinda like it that way I have had an electronic on an evo go out and I was stuck but points I can work on I have had to do it on a 74 fxe I use to ride but to the point if I changed to an electronic with a single plug would it make much difference in the way it runs I think the insides are basically stock and when the bike was built the builder used some very nice parts I think he built it to ride
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds good to me. I had an electronic ignition burn out on me in Pueblo Colorado on a Sunday morning. Poor me. I opened my tool bag ansked everyone to leave me alone for about fifteen minutes. When they came back, I had installed the points plate and advance mechanism I had in my tool bag. I fired it up and we road home to Southern California.
@stevenwright6579
@stevenwright6579 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. Love the videos. I notice that there are no fender rails on the rear fender. What model is that off ? Thanks.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
That is a highly modified original fender that came with the bike when I bought it new. I have never liked the stock fender struts. So, one of my close friends, a very talented guy, Jack Foster, built "internal struts" for me. They are welded in and go in place of the originals, all the way forward and all the way back. They are handmade of 1/4" steel plate. The fender hinge has also been removed and the fender welded shut. The original tailight hole has also been filled. I used the original fender because I like the bead that runs all the way around it. All of the work on it is done in steel. One can easily lift the bike by the rear fender.
@drewmacmillan6954
@drewmacmillan6954 4 жыл бұрын
Great Topic , as I am just about to pull heads for weeping head gaskets and ignition up grade. On 81 shovel . ( currently points) If you were you , would you dual plug heads? Cheers! Just shoot me a thumb up or down . I bought bike new, Love It
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I've run dual plugs on this bike for nearly 30 years. I also run some fairly tall pistons. It works well.
@KAMR4
@KAMR4 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video Mike. Even though English is not my mother language easy to understand. Is there any information which advance curve (Ultima 53-644) is best for a 1988-883 Sportster? Would love to see a video about choosing advance curves. Sincere thanks.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
It's really something you need to experiment with for yourself on your machine. The Dynatek ignition I use on my Shovelhead is configured to that motor with me riding it. That's the purpose of the adjustments. Normally, when there are curves available to you, you start with the most aggressive and then go to the next milder if the first one detonates.
@wills705
@wills705 4 жыл бұрын
Hello again & another great video. I actually am running the same ignition on my shovel. Dual plug heads & the two coils in one deal. Is there an advantage to running separate coils? That's the direction I'm leaning on for my chopper build. As always be well.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
They do it two different ways and they work the same. You use two coils or a single coil with four plug leads and all the terminals to to equal fwo coils. But, it's all the same.
@wills705
@wills705 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I have mine mounted on the stock bracket on my FX, sort of wide & hits my leg a bit. ( Dyna twin ) Been set up that way for years sort of used to it. Want to go separate coils on my chopper mostly for looks. Also not hitting my leg will be cool.
@Jaysutube297
@Jaysutube297 Жыл бұрын
Putting in a Dyna S on my 72' XLCH and I'm at the "static timing" portion. Instructions does call for the front cylinder to be on its compression stroke. I put my "line" at the center of the inspection hole. Not the "dots". When watching your video you mentioned that the line was the rear cylinder. I was about to change it, but checked my old HD service manual titled: "Sportsters 1970 to 1978", first. There's a figure 5-19 showing the line in the middle. The description reads: Advance timing mark on flywheel for front cylinder piston 1971 and later. 40 degree BTC. Can you help me understand? I've owned this bike since 1984 and it was always a 2 kick start ......until I had the motor rebuilt. Now it's not reliable. With a kick start, that's not too good for this 62 year old vet. Hoping that going electronic is the way back to her former glory.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
The line is where the front cylinder should fire at full advance. Position it in the window. Remember to be sure your front cylinder is on its compression stroke. That's with the front piston coming up and both front valves closed.
@rock5034
@rock5034 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. About the custom toggle switch. Does the switch just connect the VOES wire to ground, to get the advance curve you want?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@MoeLarrycurly1
@MoeLarrycurly1 4 жыл бұрын
My brand I use in my 98 Fatboy except mine is under the seat and replaces the ignition module has a basic hole switch in the cone
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Good stuff.
@rod4530
@rod4530 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, I note you time the ignition on the TDC mark. I run points and time the ignition using the advance mark, which is what most people I know recommend. Are we getting it wrong?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
You do it according to the manufacturer. Time the points according to the advance mark with the ignition at full advance. This system is set at TDC and the "brain" in there automatically advances to where it is programmed. You're not wrong.
@rod4530
@rod4530 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 Understood, yes I use the little cam locking tool - thanks Mike
@I_am_kustom
@I_am_kustom 4 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@damachine3
@damachine3 4 жыл бұрын
First! Keep up the good work, Mike!
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. I'll try.
@damachine3
@damachine3 4 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 I just rode my 2019 Triumph Tiger 1200 XCA from Portland, Oregon to Bend, Oregon...via Mt. Hood. Gorgeous ride!
@Collage4x4
@Collage4x4 4 жыл бұрын
Mike! Very nice bike, I also have an 83 Shovelhead FLH. My question for you is what forward controls are you running. I currently have the stock floor boards on my bike and would like something more comfortable for my height.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not real tall, but my legs are long. Those are one of the less expensive sets and I think they can be bought from Drag Specialties, Custom Chrome, V-Twin and probably several others. The extensions and pegs are from Kuryakyn. The brake pedal pad is from an old Harley clutch pedal and is mounted with a modified piece of angle iron.
@Collage4x4
@Collage4x4 4 жыл бұрын
Pacific Mike thanks Mike 👍
@davidcook1166
@davidcook1166 3 жыл бұрын
Mike.....I had as least two pop up add for medicare supplements. (are they trying to tell Shovel head viewers something?) The older I get the more I'm into reliability. I've ran points,electronic,and Morris mags on Shovels. (kick start,SU carb) Fact is, points always started the best of the three. (it's been said that if it isn't a good starter it ain't worth a "F")We know timing is everything and the factory FX cam also seemed to outperform even Sifton cams (starting)for me. I've ran Dyna (I like them) but a guy had better carry spare parts. Nothing wrong with points and a well cared for mechanical advance.....I like to play also!...thanks for the vid!....walt...tulsa,ok
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Veery Eenteresting. I do hope you're old enough for the humor. I honestly, don't know what to say. I do know that now I'm going to take my computer in for its maintenance. I pay in advance for this periodic routine. I just wish they wouldn't speak to me. They do a good job. They keep my computer working. I haven't a clue what they're talking about. Then I will stop by for my yearly blood test. I don't know what the results will mean. I know I'm fine. They'll talk over my head again. I understand my motorcycle.
@michaelwebb3893
@michaelwebb3893 3 жыл бұрын
Zipper ignition is what i use.kept breaking the dyna in my stroker
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 3 жыл бұрын
Cool.
@patgrandy6375
@patgrandy6375 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question that's been stumping mechanics around here. I inherited a 92 dyna from my brother. When I got it front cylinder not firing. Replaced ignition timing module by the cam and the coil and plugs. After that now the front one fires but the rear one not firing now. I'm lost lol. Love your videos you are a wealth of knowledge. Thank you
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds kinda simple, but, have you checked out the plug wires themselves? Have you tried a different ignition main module? You know, if when it was apart, could you have switched the plug wires? There's something very simple going on here. Those plug wires could be almost thirty years old, you know. When the module goes bad, not just the pickup module, but the main ignition module, they do all sorts of strange things.
@patgrandy6375
@patgrandy6375 2 жыл бұрын
@@pacificmike9501 thank you for the quick response. I've been trying to look up how to check the main module. I can't find anything. Bikes are kinda new to me. So I'm learning on the fly here. Lol. Thank you.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
It's difficult to properly check out. Before there were so many different ones, I used to keep one on the shelf for testing purposes. I could simply change it. Trial and error gets expensive. I get it.
@patgrandy6375
@patgrandy6375 2 жыл бұрын
It will be worth the cost if that's what it is to resurrect my brothers bike. Thank you very much for the super quick responses. Keep making them great videos. Have great day sir
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
Price things out carefully. You may find an aftermarket ignition system for less money. Sorry I can't recommend brands.
@andrewcox710
@andrewcox710 9 ай бұрын
Does the dual plug + electric ignition improve fuel efficiency at all? As in, do you get a cleaner, more accurate burn which requires less fuel?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 9 ай бұрын
I don't figure on mileage. I love lumpy bumpy cams. I do run taller than stock gearing. The dual plugs and electronic ignition really do create smoothness and easy starting.
@shovelheadpec
@shovelheadpec Жыл бұрын
Mike I hate to bother u My spyke ignition module went bad I purchased a new module this one has 5 wires? Old spyke had 4 So any advice would be greatly appreciated what wires go wear new module red,white,green,blue,purple white and red to hot? Blue front cylinder? Green rear cylinder? Purple ignition? Scratching head ! Thank u like your videos I to am rehabilitating from my crash back in April
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 Жыл бұрын
I would need the manufacturer's instructions. I would Google Spyke.
@ricardobooker1704
@ricardobooker1704 2 жыл бұрын
Mike I just.brought a 74 FLH, it is not.running, it has an oil.cooler mounted with a front spin on oiler filter What weight engine oil should I use and what brand, also for the transmission. Thank you Sir.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
Use a good modern oil. The service manual will recommend (depending on your weather) 50 wt. Harley oil. Nowdays, I run 20/50, but don't recommend brands. Transmission? A name brand motorcycle gear lube (generally, 85/140). Invest in a genuine Harley service manual. Oh yah! Congratulations!
@BenJohnson-it9cd
@BenJohnson-it9cd 4 жыл бұрын
Do you still have your primary oiler hooked up? I saw the pipe in place in this film. Maybe a good subject for a video?
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
We've discussed it a lot. I'm sure it will come up again.
@JamanRooney
@JamanRooney 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like me trying to type lol, love it peace.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@georgejanz1313
@georgejanz1313 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mike, I am tuning my freshly rebuilt 1975 shovelhead. The engine is stock but has a Dyna electronic ignition. My question is do I need to adjust the spark plug gaps based on now running an electronic ignition versus the previous points system. For some reason I am thinking that the spark is hotter now that I have an electronic ignition so therefore my question regarding the spark plug gap. Thanks in advance.
@pacificmike9501
@pacificmike9501 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the Dynatech calls for .040 in their instructions. When running single plugs with the Dyna, I run .040.
@georgejanz1313
@georgejanz1313 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike!
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