Packed with interesting ideas and features - meet the rugged Bestevaer 36

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6 ай бұрын

Designed by and built for Gerard Dykstra, this new baby of the go-anywhere Bestevaer range is rich in ideas both from the past and for the future - and is built largely from recycled aluminium by Dutch specialists KM Yachtbuilders. Toby Hodges gives you the tour
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@terrywilson4166
@terrywilson4166 6 ай бұрын
Looks real easy to single hand, looks like a perfect boat for someone who wants to explore the world.
@jasonmacneil2256
@jasonmacneil2256 3 ай бұрын
AS LONG AS THEYRE BUCKS UP!!
@MrEolicus
@MrEolicus 6 ай бұрын
It looks like a giant frying pan, but what a frying pan! It also looks to be absolutely solid. And the interior is quite nice, cosy and traditional. I've been looking into these yachts for quite a while and it pleases me to have Toby Hodges' take on it, albeit a curtailed take, as it happened, due to lack of conditions. Can't wait to see further reviews on these fascinating boats. Cheers.
@Ian-gf8id
@Ian-gf8id 6 ай бұрын
€800K for the the base spec, i.e. before she's fully fitted out with water maker / safety equipment / etc. Crazy money. Tiny galley, no technical room, and really not much interior volume at all. A couple of years ago you reviewed the Alubat OVNI 370 with a price tag of €280K+ taxes which so much ore interior volume. That would get my vote every time.
@Nozzall
@Nozzall 6 ай бұрын
It's an aluminum sail boat intended for northern climates so I imagine some sort of foam insulation is grafted to the hull taking up volume. If they didn't insulate then the inside of that boat is going to be wet, wet, wet the moment they have to use heat.
@Nozzall
@Nozzall 6 ай бұрын
Just got to the part of the video where he explains that they use cork on the hull and wool sandwiched between the aluminum and linoleum up top.
@janfleming5635
@janfleming5635 6 ай бұрын
the ovni 370 is at 500k now
@raymidge1572
@raymidge1572 6 ай бұрын
Was looking forward to videos of this boat. With that price, I've lost all interest.
@Ian-gf8id
@Ian-gf8id 6 ай бұрын
@@Nozzall the cross section of the two boats is very different, especially in the bow. Both boats have insulated hulls but the Ovni has significantly greater volume.
@Cptnbond
@Cptnbond 6 ай бұрын
What a fantastic yacht. I agree; seeing all the boat reviews in rough weather would have been interesting. Cheers.
@HAL_NOVEMILA
@HAL_NOVEMILA 6 ай бұрын
I love Bestevaers, such beautiful lines...
@Philippe275
@Philippe275 Ай бұрын
The interior layout is FANTASTIC
@leonply
@leonply 6 ай бұрын
Another great video! Thanks for sharing this boat with the world.
@Joe90V
@Joe90V 6 ай бұрын
Really like this one, imagine the 41 foot would be perfect. Thanks Toby.
@kmk9119
@kmk9119 6 ай бұрын
Nice classic start into the New Year with your nice presentation....on a historic day when the Six Ultime trimarans left Brest for the first round the globe single handed incredible historic race!
@psystealth
@psystealth 6 ай бұрын
Awesome!! Great boat
@carryonsailing
@carryonsailing 6 ай бұрын
such a cool boat Toby, great to see you again bud. best wishes in the new years
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 6 ай бұрын
Thank you - and happy 2024 to you too!
@IINTRACOASTAL
@IINTRACOASTAL 6 ай бұрын
Now that is a lovely boat!
@erichyney6287
@erichyney6287 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Toby. See you next time.
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 6 ай бұрын
👍
@mikeschneider8574
@mikeschneider8574 6 ай бұрын
Look forward to every single video Toby. Really wish you would start uploading in 4k in the future. The video quality of these videos is too good not to be shown in all its glory. Thanks for the videos and keep up the good work!
@ChristofferETJ
@ChristofferETJ 6 ай бұрын
If we are asking for upgrades to the video quality, I'd prioritise going to 50/60 frames per second, and HDR.
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback Mike - 4K adds a lot in terms of editing and upload time etc but we'll take that onboard for sure
@colbr6733
@colbr6733 5 ай бұрын
Great to see the recent reviews of yachts made from different materials such as aluminium, wood and plywood.
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 5 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Fuhugawagah
@Fuhugawagah 6 ай бұрын
4:47 - looks like the thru hull for the raw water intake is attached to a pipe that extends (i'm guessing) above the waterline. Very cool.
@zeilgenot
@zeilgenot 6 ай бұрын
Toby, no apologies needed. Just come back with a second review with the designer on board 😊 Best Harry
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 6 ай бұрын
I'll try! Thanks Harry
@Stalefish6
@Stalefish6 6 ай бұрын
KM yachts✌️🔥🔥
@markbennett9787
@markbennett9787 5 ай бұрын
Seems strange to have a hanging locker for wet weather gear that isn’t a wet locker. Is the idea to hang the clothing to dry somewhere else then transfer it to the « dry » locker - people will have to be very disciplined ! Having said that what a great boat, love it !
@stuartsutherland7664
@stuartsutherland7664 6 ай бұрын
Very nice sailing boat! I like the open plan layout. I guess the generator is to power the electric drive.
@kevintikivik
@kevintikivik 5 ай бұрын
When your ready. I was raised in the Arctic, I would love to reach my North from your north.
@rogerkynaston7654
@rogerkynaston7654 5 ай бұрын
I'll buy my lottery ticket then! in the mean time our Rival 34 will suit us very well. 🙂
@markbennett9787
@markbennett9787 5 ай бұрын
Watching « The Sailing Brothers » who are now on the other side of the world a Rival 34 seems more than adequate.
@davidalexander-watts6630
@davidalexander-watts6630 6 ай бұрын
Unless they can find a way of producing it at a quarter of that price it's destined to be a dead end design.
@Timothy_Pitt
@Timothy_Pitt Ай бұрын
Quite Amazing to me there may be a market for such a boat, at such a price Presumably they have confidence there is We shall see
@keithmoorechannel
@keithmoorechannel 5 ай бұрын
I have to be honest and call this one the Worstevaer 36.
@steveyoung8376
@steveyoung8376 6 ай бұрын
reminds me of pete goss vessel. lots of innovation and designed by sailor
@mfhairstream6812
@mfhairstream6812 6 ай бұрын
cool boat
@matthewprather7386
@matthewprather7386 6 ай бұрын
Pleasure boat built more like a working boat. Kinda cool.
@georgh.
@georgh. 6 ай бұрын
Many nice details on this boat. 👍 I just don't understand the tunnel for the foresheets. What is that supposed to do?
@khanthabuasiya7794
@khanthabuasiya7794 2 ай бұрын
Have you looked into the MCP aluminum explore sail yatchs? I think they're pretty slick
@nz_sailor
@nz_sailor 6 ай бұрын
Gobsmackingly beautiful
@SensibleCreeper
@SensibleCreeper 6 ай бұрын
2:27 I'm gonna tell you right now that the top is not sandblasted aluminum, as sandblasted aluminum looks completely different. The top deck has a texture coating on it. You can see the raised edge along the clean cut seem.
@Geckobug_art
@Geckobug_art 6 ай бұрын
From the brochure: "Grit blasted non skid aluminium surface at walking areas on deck/cockpit floor"
@bradrandel1408
@bradrandel1408 6 ай бұрын
Is there a heating system to help dry the boat out?
@PN_48
@PN_48 6 ай бұрын
Loving the combo of old school metal boats with space age friction rings and dyneema👌 My only worry with metal is internal condensation and ensuring there are ways of getting it off the boat, but otherwise that’s a nice boat!
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 6 ай бұрын
Cork is very effective and safe its also very light and renewable. Its also naturally resistant to mould and bacteria... Basalt needle matting is also safe and effective if you can get a supply. The other trick that works is to add slow low noise and pressure computer fans to mushroom hatches and force air through the boats storage areas when in use or stored.... The airs forced behind and under the inner fittings and helps move the moisture out. You can close them off under sail. Although there are heat exchanging 12v domestic fan units designed for bathrooms and kitchens that might fit in a locker 🤔 That might be worth a try on an older boat.
@PN_48
@PN_48 6 ай бұрын
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Sure thing. We used closed cell foam very effectively on our steel ketch and it’s lasted for 12 years ok, and I suspect will outlive me. It’s forgotten areas like the lazarettes and lockers though. They’re not insulated and will experience temp differentials between outside / inside, thus producing condensation. In an ideal world, that would run down behind the stringers and be pumped out via bilge pump, but it’d be far easier just to insulate the area instead…
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 6 ай бұрын
@@PN_48 Yes insulating the whole hull is the ideal.. it saves energy both ways reduces noise something that we forget especially in a metal hull. The problem with sealed cell foam spray is ...its not cheap its made from hydrocarbons... It degasses some nasty chemicals and it sheds plastics into a closed environment . The other big problem is in the event of a fire many foams and plastics will burn or emit thick black toxic smoke. That will kill a person very quickly. Cork is naturally fire resistant its ised to clad the outside of buildings in Southern Europes fire belt and can be treated to resist even a blow torch without harmful toxic smoke emissions .. its also more abrasion resistant . There are office buildings that use it as flooring where it has to withstand stiletto heals passing every day. Basalt is incredibly good as a thermal chemical radiation and water and mould resistant it also doesnt form harmful shed particles. The Other group of materials that can be considered are flax, jute and hemp fibers. Chain lockers are an obvious place where they need a liner that keeps metals separated and to reduce noise. One other point, with the advent of chemically structurally modified timber like Inventwoods ..MettelWood.. or Accoya you may find that wood becomes a substitute for Al Car on fiber or even steel.. with natural insulation and even the ability to substitute for glass but keeping the strength and insulation of wood .. If you reduce the thermal gradient and bridging you reduce the condensation risk and the energy needs of the vessel in both cold and hot climates. Its an area that needs more attention and design material alternatives. 🧙‍♂️ 👍🏼
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 6 ай бұрын
👍
@colbr6733
@colbr6733 5 ай бұрын
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Interesting alternatives to cell foam spray, are these in development or actually available as product?
@michaelpimentel8710
@michaelpimentel8710 6 ай бұрын
Wondering how hot that gets in the sun?
@donaldvanvliet9039
@donaldvanvliet9039 6 ай бұрын
On deck it gets hot at noon (wear sandals), inside cooler than your typical grp boat because of all the insulation. Consider that this boat wasn’t built by dykstra for the tropics, but for the waddensea and scandinavia.
@Erin-Thor
@Erin-Thor 6 ай бұрын
And the light color won’t soak up as much heat as a dark exterior.
@tomhermens7698
@tomhermens7698 6 ай бұрын
@michaelpimentel8710 not hot and it's insulated!!! Good builders. Would like 40/44 version.
@kisero2222
@kisero2222 6 ай бұрын
I spent a week on an aluminium sailboat like this. On a summer day, alu boats get hot on that deck to the point you can not walk bare feet ... inside is warmer in comparison to a white grp with minimal insulation. In winter, alu boats must have insulation for condensation (which can create havoc) and temperature topics. alu builds require vertical and horizontal frames, that take space from the interior which is typically filled with insulation...with a nice convection heater is really nice and warm inside.
@Genocide_2a36-vx2mq
@Genocide_2a36-vx2mq 2 ай бұрын
Wow! Real battlecruiser! And the same price...
@janhbhugo5085
@janhbhugo5085 5 ай бұрын
Love it ! Very pricey though .
@Coleen_West
@Coleen_West 5 ай бұрын
Nice sailboat.. love it.. but.. -- QUESTION -- Why is the transom like that @00:22 where it looks impossible to climb onto. The old Garcia 43/46 had a large flat sugar scoop type transom that worked so so well. Kinda wish this did to. Is there a reason to have that type of old style transom on it?
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 5 ай бұрын
If you watch the video @Coleen_West you will see at 05.20 there is a proper gate through the transom which also forms a swim platform
@thomasstorrs6345
@thomasstorrs6345 6 ай бұрын
Certainly has a navy ship look to it.
@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 6 ай бұрын
Toby: "Day 67 of living out of my car."
@kisero2222
@kisero2222 6 ай бұрын
Undoubtedly metal is a nice building material from an environmental perspective ... but %99 of people do not need an aluminium hull ... this is why the market is so small and these boats are soooooo custom and therefore soooo expensive. nice one Toby.
@goofyfoot2001
@goofyfoot2001 6 ай бұрын
You don't want to sail barefoot in the bahamas with this thing
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 6 ай бұрын
Bahamas weren't really my first thought for this type of boat!
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 6 ай бұрын
Refreshing! Designed by sailors for sailors.
@cliffpz
@cliffpz 6 ай бұрын
If it's raw, it's for sure
@n.o.b.1907
@n.o.b.1907 6 ай бұрын
Why do they not use local sail makers?
@observer7418
@observer7418 6 ай бұрын
Does it burn your feet?
@philv3941
@philv3941 6 ай бұрын
über solid ship, but frankly narrow inside, small layout, limited view from inside, no doghouse, no real space for the technical room ... for €800K , Alubat / Garcia / Boreal are a much more logical proposal to me. Even if they were more expensive
@JimKJeffries
@JimKJeffries 6 ай бұрын
All the amazing thoughtfulness, than your electircal bits are in the wet locker. Why are the low voltage guys always the after thought?
@terencet1018
@terencet1018 6 ай бұрын
Marvelous ll and deck design and construction. But WHY are all the builders employing swept back spreaders on short-handed cruising boats? It just makes going downwind much less effective and constantly demands using spinnakers of some sort. My old fashioned vessel with a 9.3 meter waterline can beat much bigger Beneteaus when the wind pipes up from astern because I can let my sails out for efficiency.
@kisero2222
@kisero2222 6 ай бұрын
dead downwind is slower and more uncomfortable than broad reaching. simple as that.
@stevenschapera2888
@stevenschapera2888 6 ай бұрын
This is just too agricultural for my type of sailing. As with comparing a traditional Landrover to a Toyota Landcruiser, there will be fans for each, but I will take the Landcruiser every time.
@g.y.p.s.y.
@g.y.p.s.y. 5 ай бұрын
good stuff toby, always enjoy your vids
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@demisecphuket
@demisecphuket 6 ай бұрын
There is nothing green about aluminium. Smeltering process has huge energy needs well beyond other materials.
@Trajectionable
@Trajectionable 6 ай бұрын
take a shot for every 'as well'
@BrazzolottoFilippo
@BrazzolottoFilippo 3 ай бұрын
Antal winches were provided without anodization to save energy and pollution of the process!
@LordLootus-4004
@LordLootus-4004 6 ай бұрын
The kitchen area is… non existent?
@yoryteperman429
@yoryteperman429 4 ай бұрын
There are 'expedition' boats, and then, there is this: - what looks like an unfinished 'hirsuit' Neanderthal boat, rough with weld-seams and quorters that an experienced jailbird might find uncomfortable. This boat would likely suit best what in the US is called "preppers" - i.e. individuals actively planning to battle zombies during apocalypse. Having seen Garcias and Allures, methinks an expedition boat does not have to be such an unfinished tin-can - especially for such money, because, yes, the deck might get uncomfortably warmish if this tub ever sails south of the fortieth paralell... Perhaps this is an arctic-ocean 'special', or for the connoisuers of maso-kinky pursuits? - Just wait until that aluminum locker door closes on a finger...
@Johnonayacht
@Johnonayacht 5 ай бұрын
The interior is like a 1960's boat, the price for what you get is insane.
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 6 ай бұрын
Extremely small interior for a 36.
@user-ht9mb6mw9d
@user-ht9mb6mw9d 5 ай бұрын
Я что-то не понимаю. В чем ценность этой лодки, если она стоит 800.000 в базе?
@willemhaifetz-chen1588
@willemhaifetz-chen1588 6 ай бұрын
KM for the win
@El_Carrito_del_Helao
@El_Carrito_del_Helao 6 ай бұрын
800k€😅😅 What a joke!
@FighterFred
@FighterFred 6 ай бұрын
Little comfort and huge price. And that rudder is a joke. Heating is a must in the North. A larger model is preferable but then the cost is unreal.
@Timothy_Pitt
@Timothy_Pitt Ай бұрын
Say more about rudder, please It looks crazy system to me but anyway
@user-ve9bk4dj3n
@user-ve9bk4dj3n 6 ай бұрын
friend, turn on the Russian subtitles, and everyone else too, not everyone knows English; subtitles are needed in order to watch your videos on TV)
@andre1987eph
@andre1987eph 6 ай бұрын
You get more bang for the buck for 800K if you went with a semi-production boat like a Boreal or Garcia
@ez3333
@ez3333 6 ай бұрын
🌹🐦😇🗝🌹
@foxlake6750
@foxlake6750 6 ай бұрын
Aluminum doesn’t absorb water like fibre glass, no gel coat to be scratched, easy to repair, it can be painted, but doesn’t have to be. If this boat was built in volume, the price would drop
@guidouytterhaegen
@guidouytterhaegen 5 ай бұрын
Right,but as all things also aluminium has his cons,electrolysis for instance and seen the bad insulation figures it need extensive extra insulation.
@ZoneTelevision
@ZoneTelevision 6 ай бұрын
It looks like they’ve taken some hull cue designs from the Steve & Linda Dashew
@MoutinhoNuno
@MoutinhoNuno 6 ай бұрын
Was just about to write this. Very much like an FPB! Love it.
@fisherh9111
@fisherh9111 6 ай бұрын
I like my boats clean and simple. There are way too many fiddly bits on this boat for my liking.
@Billy-the-Kid
@Billy-the-Kid Ай бұрын
Veels te duur voor een alu koekepan bootje.
@rustyheyman214
@rustyheyman214 5 ай бұрын
Rather have a Garcia
@castrocollins6371
@castrocollins6371 6 ай бұрын
Wait, a 35' boat for 546K euro? I'll pass.
@terrancedick8912
@terrancedick8912 6 ай бұрын
So electric drive right?.so what Do you gain from that.have to Run the generator on diesel To the batteries to the drive Unit.just have a diesel engine Straight to the propellor. Then shouldn't need the Unsustainable batteries. Not need them and don't Have to dump them in a few years .I don't get it , somebody Explain?
@georgh.
@georgh. 6 ай бұрын
The Oceanvolt motor has regen, so it charges the batteries while sailing. Then you charge the batteries with the solar panels. In a marina you charge with shore power. So the generator is the backup of the backup of the backup.
@Johnonayacht
@Johnonayacht 5 ай бұрын
The EU being so environmentally aware how do they allow boats to still dry out. Never allowed in the states.
@drxym
@drxym Ай бұрын
Bonkers money but I suppose if you want the most rugged boat possible at that size you'd pay it.
@sailingmrnice
@sailingmrnice 6 ай бұрын
Haha bought a 37' Endurance for £13k. Built as good as that.
@se2103
@se2103 6 ай бұрын
Orcas won’t chew on that.
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 6 ай бұрын
It would give them a toothache anyhow
@yachticus
@yachticus 4 ай бұрын
the Bestevaer yachts could do with some help from Van Destadt design office in respect of their pilot house. a block / turret ( in today's world) is a failure.
@Tb0n3
@Tb0n3 6 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but that bare metal look makes it look like a barge.
@MoutinhoNuno
@MoutinhoNuno 6 ай бұрын
Horses for Courses.... I absolute love the look of it. Plus, very low to no maintenance.
@Tb0n3
@Tb0n3 6 ай бұрын
@@MoutinhoNuno as long as you're proactive on the anodes. Paint does provide a bit of corrosion protection.
@Harpoika
@Harpoika 5 ай бұрын
dafuq 800k?? I love the boat but 800k € VAT0 is too much money for it.
@dojoisdead
@dojoisdead 6 ай бұрын
Wow that looks bad
@user-cq4mv1zp2x
@user-cq4mv1zp2x 3 ай бұрын
Too much
@TM-yr3pc
@TM-yr3pc 6 ай бұрын
Toby’s gettin’ old….
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 6 ай бұрын
Yes I have been for a long time now - but do tell me your rejuvenating tips Peter Pan!
@TM-yr3pc
@TM-yr3pc 6 ай бұрын
@@yachtingworld..Eat keto, drink chateau petrus, sail Comanche…?
@thomaselliott573
@thomaselliott573 5 ай бұрын
Very poor interior layout. The functional concept of the rest of the boat has gone berserk on the interior. Silly galley, silly head, and silly many things really. Also, what happens with condensation in some parts of the interior? Is that why the head is so small? Go back to the drawing board with someone who is not from your company. Nice try Tobes. The boat has some quite functionally appealing ideas, but these people are a little too introverted and need some help. Forget that silly dagger keel for a start. People might like to sail upwind.
@yachtingworld
@yachtingworld 5 ай бұрын
Ah @thomaselliott573 - it's been a while - I've missed you! It's very well insulated, the builders have done a few aluminium boats now. And I'd be interested to see you take your back to the drawing board and centreboards don't go upwind thoughts to Gerry Dykstra - again, a designer who knows a thing or two!
@thomaselliott573
@thomaselliott573 5 ай бұрын
Useless comment. fark off@@yachtingworld
@thomaselliott573
@thomaselliott573 5 ай бұрын
Centreboards going upwind on a bathtub? Licking butts again ay?@@yachtingworld
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