Palm OS | PDA Gaming on M515

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FrameRater

FrameRater

Күн бұрын

Over the past two years I've collected a bunch of Palm OS games. This is my experience with the device, followed by short reviews of said games.
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0:00 - Introduction
4:20 - Game Boy Emulator
LOCKED TRIAL GAMES
6:38 - 3D Air Hockey
7:01 - Bzzz!
7:17 - Crazy Cube
7:37 - Defender
7:59 - Flytrap
8:50 - Lemmings
9:15 - Master Thief
9:42 - Maryo Bros (Mario Bros. Clone)
10:09 - PipeLine Peril (Pipe Dream Clone)
10:21 - Qubic (Q-Bert Clone)
10:31 - Race Fever
10:47 - Root Beer Tapper
11:24 - Tank Pilot (Battlezone Clone)
11:42 - RB's Color Tic-Tac-Toe
11:50 - Toy Races
SERIAL CODES UNLOCKED
12:12 - Robotron: 2084
12:54 - Serious Sam
13:23 - Rayman
14:02 - Zap! 2016
FREEWARE
14:43 - Argon V
14:51 - Astron
15:03 - Boulder Palm (Boulder Dash Clone)
15:14 - BoxMan
15:24 - Bucky in his First Adventure
15:37 - Caverns of Kalisto
15:54 - Invaders (Space Invaders Clone)
16:05 - Jumpman
16:18 - KOBO
16:31 - Ladder
16:39 - Muppy (Mappy Clone)
16:53 - Pilot Mines (Minesweeper Clone)
17:04 - Pocket Pinball
17:13 - pBobble (Puzzle Bobble Clone)
17:31 - Rays
17:46 - SFCave
17:52 - SP
18:08 - Conclusion
Intro/Outro Music: Outro - MACROSS ft. Yung Abe (SAILORWAVE II)
Background Music:
Intro/Extro: マクロスMACROSS 82-99 - Outro (feat. Yung Abe)
Palm Commercial Music: Harder, Better, Faster, Stronker - Daft Punk
TRNDSTTR Instrumental - Black Coast (Lucian Remix)
Planet Lavatron - Ribbit King OST
Overworld Theme - Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 1 OST
Overworld Theme - Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 2 OST
4PM - Animal Crossing GCN OST
Menu - Rayman Raving Rabbids Prototype OST
Evil as Satan - Skrillex
Scatting - Skrillex
Drop Dead - Skrillex
Aquatic Ruins Zone - Sonic 2 OST
Enjoy Yourself Instrumental - Saint Pepsi / Chris Brueggeman
Club Villain Instrumental - YourFavoriteMartian
Doompy Poomp - Skrillex
Wow Wow Instrumental - Neil Cicierega
#palmpda #handheld #palmos

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@mobile1up
@mobile1up 5 жыл бұрын
Happy to talk to you about this era, you covered a few of the games we developed.. (lemmings, mt3d, maryo Bros).. we had a lot of games - we also had our own Gameboy emulator and you may be interested in the demo contest we did for the palm m505!!
@benwright391
@benwright391 4 жыл бұрын
So, was it the wild west of software development? It was freeware and licensers never bothered to check for infringement?
@nickmalcom6360
@nickmalcom6360 4 жыл бұрын
Hi aren! a shame handheld remakes is down, you actually ended up releasing full versions of some of your games on there.
@zachariahgerardo1609
@zachariahgerardo1609 2 жыл бұрын
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@trentkamden2094
@trentkamden2094 2 жыл бұрын
@Zachariah Gerardo Instablaster :)
@zachariahgerardo1609
@zachariahgerardo1609 2 жыл бұрын
@Trent Kamden thanks for your reply. I found the site thru google and Im in the hacking process atm. I see it takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@ryngak
@ryngak 5 жыл бұрын
Pushing out a 30 minute video 4 days after an hour long rabbids documentary? You're an absolute madman.
@napalmkitty6686
@napalmkitty6686 5 жыл бұрын
4 days is alot of time tho
@ryngak
@ryngak 5 жыл бұрын
@@napalmkitty6686 Not if you're gonna pump out 30 minutes of high quality content. If you're a vlogger or something, sure, but Frame's content takes more time than just saying "Hey guys! Today I ate soup and my cat fell down, ha!"
@napalmkitty6686
@napalmkitty6686 5 жыл бұрын
@@ryngak truth. :-) i love frame. My fav vid is the n64 expansion pack. You?
@TheChrisRolla
@TheChrisRolla 4 жыл бұрын
That “original take” on a Game And Watch game is actually just the Game And Watch title Octopus
@FOXGEAR92
@FOXGEAR92 5 жыл бұрын
3:38 yeah those specifications are neat and all but I wanna know more about Where To Eat Ass, and why CNET may get a commission from asses I have eaten once found
@hey.its.BrandishJaye
@hey.its.BrandishJaye 5 жыл бұрын
Glad someone else noticed that...
@alaeriia01
@alaeriia01 5 жыл бұрын
I was just about to ask about this.
@Kryptomromine
@Kryptomromine 5 жыл бұрын
I saw that too, and had to jump back to see it again. I laughed so hard when I saw it.
@shigerufan1
@shigerufan1 3 жыл бұрын
I remember one that my Dad had installed called Space Trader, which was a surprisingly in-depth space tycoon game with turn-based combat on top.
@AdrianWoodUK
@AdrianWoodUK 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite PalmOS game was "Lock & Key", a maze game with a sort of strategy puzzle element to it. It was always great when you finally got your stats high enough to fight any enemy without losing health, and had free run to go anywhere. I keep thinking about writing a clone...
@AudioTestsNReviews
@AudioTestsNReviews 3 жыл бұрын
PalmOS 5 was my childhood, between the Tungsten T3, a couple Treo phones, Palm Centro, and now a Palm TX I found cheaply from eBay but rarely use anymore. I actually had a Mappy PRC that actually felt like a fully-featured emulation of the Arcade/MAME version, with even mappy-specific settings. It was the one game I had that really took over all hardware buttons, meaning I had to re-insert a SD Card to exit get back to home (or alt, then home on a Treo). I think it was a Trial, one that (I think) triggers a popup after the first bonus round. I think I also recall somehow getting hold of the full version.
@allanpeaden8667
@allanpeaden8667 4 жыл бұрын
Warfare Incorporated is an amazing game for palm 4. As far as showing what these devices were actually capable for, I can't think of a better example. The sound on this game also blew me away.
@LevelUp_ErikJ
@LevelUp_ErikJ 3 жыл бұрын
@FrameRater After Palm OS was abandoned, Astraware released a document containing all the possible registration codes for their games based on a hardware ID. You can use that to register Bzzz.
@NimhLabs
@NimhLabs 5 жыл бұрын
Stuff like this gets me all into wanting to get into doing Back Port stuff again. Nothing is more satisfying, than taking an older piece of hardware... and having it do things that the piece of hardware has no business ever doing.
@JollyGiant64
@JollyGiant64 5 жыл бұрын
Man, this is crazy, the day this was uploaded, I was at this new game store in town, and they had this weird SEGA Classics collection. I had no idea what it was for, so I asked, and the guy said it was for the Palm OS. I had no idea what that was until I watched this video. The collection was of four Master System games, those being Sonic 1, Shinobi, Super Columns, and Shining Force. So interesting how I had never heard of it until seeing it in person! They were selling it for $100, but I've seen it on eBay for $80. Super interesting!
@FrameRater
@FrameRater 5 жыл бұрын
Yeesh, $100? I know Palm games can get expensive but that's ridiculous. I've seen it for around $40 - $50 on eBay... I think sealed, too. I would have gotten it but it requires Palm 5.0 or above. Not sure why since they're not very demanding titles.
@irwanfaizal9558
@irwanfaizal9558 3 жыл бұрын
Ouh, i remember playing shining force on palm ☺️
@Dick_Valparaiso
@Dick_Valparaiso 5 жыл бұрын
3:40 Right side of screen. wtf? At least CNET gets some commission.
@logtail
@logtail 3 жыл бұрын
How to eat ass
@supersquare
@supersquare 3 жыл бұрын
When to eat ass
@reviewdle6173
@reviewdle6173 5 жыл бұрын
I would just so happen to LOVE more odd videos like these. The more obscure, the more likely our boy FrameRater is to cover it!
@nickmalcom6360
@nickmalcom6360 4 жыл бұрын
explotion is not based on the bomber lemming skill, but rather the "nuke" skill, which turns all lemmings into bombers. it serves as both a quick reset in case you fuck up and also to bring the level to a quick end if the goal has already been reached (tipicly to get rid of the blocker lemmings which are basicly disposable brick walls).
@almipopp5152
@almipopp5152 5 жыл бұрын
Man this bought back memories! I had a Palm Vx when I was young and it was pretty much my only way to play games for awhile so I downloaded all the free shovelware I could of course. Played a good few of these, asteroids, the ribbon one, pong, etc. Remember being annoyed at all the non free games haha. I actually received mine without the linking cable but fortunately the family laptop had an infrared port, and it is actually possible to synch up files in that manner! I do remember really liking (at the time) these two games that were RPGs. Don't remember the names, but in one of them you were a gladiator that built up status with each battle and the other was more fantasy oriented. Decent games if a bit grind-y. and right when the sparse story seemed to be getting interesting it brought up the registration screen.... My Palm gaming days ended when the battery inexplicably died. That is, until I caught wind of Serious Sam Palm OS of course. Also Kitteh looks fluffy and I wanna pet.
@zdanee
@zdanee 5 жыл бұрын
Warfare Inc.! You left out the most awesome RTS on Palm!
@zdanee
@zdanee 5 жыл бұрын
@@FrameRater Still you should check it out. The graphics are quite good for what it was, it runs on 160x160 @mono up to 640x480@16 bit, and supports pretty much every single Palm device. And it's pretty fun to play with the stylus too.
@elizabeth_noir
@elizabeth_noir 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, came here to say this. Warfare Inc was by far one of my favorite games on Palm. It also got ports to iOS and Android. No idea about iOS but the Android version is free.
@jpward01
@jpward01 5 жыл бұрын
Sure, it may be redundant nowadays, but in the words of everyone's favourite rich puppet, Stingy: "I know I don't *_need_* it, BUT I *_want_* it!"
@jaspervictoria843
@jaspervictoria843 4 жыл бұрын
Many years ago my family moved to a really tiny town in the Nevada desert. There was a charter school that had been closed down. However, the front door was left unlocked. So of my friend and I went in to see what was there. Right inside the entrance was a storage closet filled with old printers, desktop computers, and laptops. There was also a pair of Palm Tungsten E2s, and being the delinquent 11 year old I was, I decided to steal something. In my infinite wisdom, I decided to grab the PDA, instead of one of the many old laptops. Not my proudest moment, but looking back on it is pretty funny.
@NinJoshkko
@NinJoshkko 5 жыл бұрын
yes i would love for you to make more neat videos like this, i got so interested
@vlolxd
@vlolxd 5 жыл бұрын
Dude I had a tungsten t2 rip classes in early 2000's with games, mp3 and even full movies :) . Thanks for the memories.
@a.d.sstudioanimation6438
@a.d.sstudioanimation6438 2 жыл бұрын
Oh dude, your intro is really special 🔥💯
@kaboomgamer333
@kaboomgamer333 3 жыл бұрын
The other palm also has sound capabilities of an NES, so GB and NES emus had full sound. GBA emus had partial sound, and SNES emus, had none.
@Isaacfess
@Isaacfess 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, More FrameRater content. Love that new Intro!
@cresenciogarcia5963
@cresenciogarcia5963 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know the intro song?
@Isaacfess
@Isaacfess 3 жыл бұрын
It's MACROSS 82-99 - Outro!
@tHeWasTeDYouTh
@tHeWasTeDYouTh 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. there was a handheld called the Tapwave Zodiac that came out in 2003 or 2004. It was made by ex Palm employees. Was pretty powerful and got a few games by Activision but that was it.
@marvelousball
@marvelousball Жыл бұрын
It was also terrible and sold very little units
@SnoozeYaLose
@SnoozeYaLose 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, Boulder Dash was a game released in 1984 for the Atari 8-bit computers by First Star Software, and is not an arcade release. Just thought you should know.
@KevinTuyau
@KevinTuyau 4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted a Palm since I was child in the 90's. Finally got a Palm Zaire in high school. I didn't have Internet at home so it was hard to get games. In 2008 I got the Palm Centro. I used it for 8 years but then Telstra shut the 2G network down. I found playing games on the Centro difficult because the action buttons were also the OS menu buttons. This meant that I had to take the battery out to get back to the OS home screen. Many games wouldn't use the inbuilt keyboard, that would make it easy. I think Palm would of survived longer if they had an app store on the Centro and Treo.
@supercommando89
@supercommando89 5 жыл бұрын
Neat video, I actually forgot about palm devices. I remember my dad gave me his old Tungsten E when he got a palm TX and I used to use it to listen to music and various other pda stuff. I didnt have many games on it but I remember I did have a copy of Duke Nukem 3D on it that ran pretty badly, and I had to pay for a program that made a swap file on the SD card because the Tungsten didn't have enough memory to run duke3d without it. I finished duke on the tungsten but wouldn't want to try it again today haha. good times
@darkestmon
@darkestmon 5 жыл бұрын
Palm trial apps usually create db in the palm system to mark when you started using the app. deleting those db may prolong your trial of the app. those db's are usually disguised as something common like calendar or datebook db. as long as you're sure which is which, then you won't accidentally delete your important data :)
@BlackCatRedScarf
@BlackCatRedScarf 5 жыл бұрын
Race Fever was great on infrared multiplayer! Space War (Star trek battle) and Space Trader (Great RPG with port available on Android) were awesome too. I used to play a lot on my Palm m100, m125 and Zire. Though the Android finally filled the void left by Palm after the end of Palm OS as we know.
@spareroomtech
@spareroomtech Жыл бұрын
Space War was such a great game! Wish we had that game on iOS or Android.
@Angultra
@Angultra 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, Palm was a big part of my life before smartphones. Had a huge case of nostalgia until you got to all the shareware / trial limitations, then it brought back bad memories lol...not sure I want to relive that part!
@Mayesjam1
@Mayesjam1 5 жыл бұрын
that was interesting actually. This makes me want to find old hand held and cell phone games out of curiosity.
@richardbriones819
@richardbriones819 2 жыл бұрын
Refreshing to see what was out there. I would have loved to try games on my palm centro
@sergnechaev
@sergnechaev 4 жыл бұрын
I remember my old Palm TX playing a 3d shooter helicopter game, a racing game, but also ported versions of Doom, Duke Nukem and Hexen (the PC versions), and they ran fine. I also had a foldable keyboard, so back in 2006 that was like having a mini pc with you, it was crazy :))
@nathann0100
@nathann0100 5 жыл бұрын
The popcap palm os games are great I have spent many hours playing them over the years
@shabmaster7128
@shabmaster7128 5 жыл бұрын
Kyle's Quest, Space Trader
@MartellThaCool
@MartellThaCool 5 жыл бұрын
Great content as always, frame rater
@SamPinchesMakerShop
@SamPinchesMakerShop 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fun blast from the past 😃 Would be great if you could give a shout-out to PalmDB too - it’s a cool site and we have an awesome discord chat for Palm OS enthusiasts too!
@juanpablomuller6543
@juanpablomuller6543 5 жыл бұрын
My dad used to have a Palm, he used it for the things he uses his iPhone now lol. But it's incredible to see apps that began in PalmOS still being used in smartphones to this day. Like Quicken, for example.
@msvelsina
@msvelsina 5 жыл бұрын
Please more weird stuff like this its amazing taking a look at more obscure stuff. I had the same palm with one game on it I cant remember what it was but I think it was boxman
@UravityJenna
@UravityJenna 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video!! Back when I was a kid before I had a GameBoy or DS, I would play GameBoy games on the LJP emulator on a Palm Pilot. Trying it again years later after playing the games on a real GameBoy, I now notice that the games didn’t run PERFECTLY, but they still ran pretty well on my model!
@UravityJenna
@UravityJenna 5 жыл бұрын
Also would like to mention!! My dad actually messaged one of the companies that made one of the games for a registration key a few months ago, and they actually gave him one! I call that amazing customer service haha.
@FrameRater
@FrameRater 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've heard of a few success stories with reaching out to old devs online, I think I had tried one or two e-mails I found for various games but after a half year or so nothing came up. Probably dead addresses.
@leonidas14775
@leonidas14775 4 жыл бұрын
I just read a short Wikihow article on how to crack Palm OS games with "pilotdis" to get rid of the paywalls. It would be interesting to see more on this. It's a dead platform anyway and won't be hurting any developers.
@moracomole8090
@moracomole8090 4 жыл бұрын
You did an amazing job👍
@jornthree8881
@jornthree8881 5 жыл бұрын
I remember I had the sega classic collection on the palm that had the game gear versions of sonic 1, shining force, columns and shinobi. god i loved my palm.
@mercster
@mercster 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 43 years old, I had MAAAANY PalmOS devices. They were great for the time.
@saanait0
@saanait0 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely look into getting a Palm that runs OS 5! There's a lot of great stuff you can play on one, even ignoring emulators (though I have to admit that my LifeDrive makes a great Game Boy substitute). Sadly, a lot of games are still hampered by being shareware without a means to register them in 2019. Maybe I'll make that a video project of my own, sometime.
@akalyx
@akalyx 3 жыл бұрын
enjoyed this, thanks
@potomax
@potomax 5 жыл бұрын
Love these weird concepts!
@jesusramirez2251
@jesusramirez2251 5 жыл бұрын
excellent review!!
@JavaJack59
@JavaJack59 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like this video focused a lot on arcade games, but there were some good puzzle games and RPGs. Plus Ackwire, a sweet version of the old Sid Sackson Aquire board game.
@hanselmanryanjames
@hanselmanryanjames 4 жыл бұрын
Went and looked up "Quarth" ( never heard of it). Found out it was a Japan only famicom game. Tried it out, and yeah! Pretty great! Thanks !! Love these simple addictive arcade style puzzle games.
@milkapeismilky5464
@milkapeismilky5464 4 жыл бұрын
Good subject! I co-opted my work PDA as a proto handheld in the early naughties, until the PSP was delivered from on high. (Cue angelic music) Played me some serious Spy Hunter with the stylus! Palm Pilot (can't believe that name actually stuck) was a really versatile, accessable and hackable platform. But I dropped mine like third period French for PSP.
@furryawsom
@furryawsom 5 жыл бұрын
oh my god i didnt know you were back
@baxoutthebox5682
@baxoutthebox5682 5 ай бұрын
Aldon’s Crossing is still an amazing RPG
@KillThad
@KillThad 5 жыл бұрын
2:17 in awe at the size of this lad absolute unit
@PrivateSi
@PrivateSi 5 жыл бұрын
The XScale Palms could run a snes emulator at full speed. The cheap Palm Zire 72 I had worked well but the more expensive Tungsten models had a bigger screen and were quicker.
@nickmalcom6360
@nickmalcom6360 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see palm ports of some of the tiger handhelds, since that's exactly what the palm games sound like.
@JonOlssonJxx
@JonOlssonJxx 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video, man!! :)
@FairPlay137
@FairPlay137 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite developers were RanoSoft and Mike McCollister back during around 2012 or 2013 or so... (Both sites are still online and the PRCs can still be downloaded) RNS is on the list due to HBX (a HackMaster/X-Master compatible extension of the hard buttons) and Bombel (best bubble wrap application in my opinion...yeah I'm weird). Mike McCollister is on the list because of Battery Prefs and Screen Prefs.
@PaintsAreOp
@PaintsAreOp 5 жыл бұрын
I remember having on ~15 years ago, it was probably a newer or more powerful model but my dad brought it 2nd hand. It did run some Nintendo emulator and I remember trial only games being a norm. Just a few games that weren't. But there was some really simply viking themed strategy game that I really liked, couldn't find it anymore though.
@JamesTomlinson2
@JamesTomlinson2 3 жыл бұрын
Dude love palms got 100 thank ya for the vid!!!!!
@targetdummy1
@targetdummy1 4 жыл бұрын
I had a Tungsten with Little John Palm! At the time, it was awesome, I mostly used it to try out original Gameboy games. The controls weren't optimal, of course, but the games ran well! I think it was capable of Genesis and maybe SNES too, but you had to do some weird kind of hack to give it access to more RAM? I don't quite recall.
@mebossyounothing
@mebossyounothing 4 жыл бұрын
Ah memories 🧡 i switched to windows PDA back then just to play SNES
@Quadrenaro
@Quadrenaro 4 жыл бұрын
I loved my palm when I was a kid. I had a few emulated nintendo and arcade games on it.
@atlassarnosian555
@atlassarnosian555 5 жыл бұрын
I may have forgotten about Tamagotchis.. but they remember you *they always remember*
@NimhLabs
@NimhLabs 5 жыл бұрын
"Why did you abandon me, Mommy? Why? Did I do something wrong, Mommy? Why did you leave me?" I mean... if I am going to have that nightmare, the rest of you might as well also have it.
@otter3425
@otter3425 5 жыл бұрын
I have 2 disks filled with palm os games. Games like bejeweled 2 and all popcap games were amazing on the palm os. Also Namco released a lot of their arcade titles on the palm and I think Capcom released a RE game on it as well.
@FrameRater
@FrameRater 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have the Namco games?
@otter3425
@otter3425 5 жыл бұрын
@@FrameRater some of them yes. but those namco games were the most difficult to find. I don't remember if they were the trial version or the full version but I do remember that those versions were for Palm OS 5.
@devilinthewoods3809
@devilinthewoods3809 3 ай бұрын
I found a couple of these in my storage and now I'm wanting to learn how to make some homebrew for these devices. I of course don't know how to do so, but i think it'd be neat to make some little virtual pets like the ones we had with our Tamagotchis and Digivices.
@weirdproq
@weirdproq 5 жыл бұрын
That Toy Races game is just a clone (unofficial port?) of Micro Machines 2. It even uses the assets from that game.
@shadoom
@shadoom 5 жыл бұрын
3:41 can you please click the ad on the left? I need to know where to do that...
@VoidloniXaarii
@VoidloniXaarii 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MrMegaManFan
@MrMegaManFan 5 жыл бұрын
Cute cat cameos for the win!
@azop
@azop 5 жыл бұрын
14:32 I think that old developer website was hacked with some injection hack by some malicious bot...
@bsdims
@bsdims 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of obsolete PDA software, I found an exe installer for the unreleased game Radium by Karma Studios (demo) a while ago. I sadly don't have a Windows Pocket PC on me to test / play it, so it's just sitting on my hard drive, and a USB drive for backup for now.
@MegaManNeo
@MegaManNeo 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the coverage. I was lucky enough to get hands on three Palm devices for 15 Euros in total like three years ago, one of them should be the M515 and another be the Thungsten actually. Getting hands on software these days is really difficult, most of it is taken down and not even the Internet Archive seems to have things conserved :/
@zachsteiner
@zachsteiner Жыл бұрын
You left this comment 3 years ago but if you need palm software I archived lots of it back in 2010.
@MegaManNeo
@MegaManNeo Жыл бұрын
@@zachsteiner That sounds interesting 👀👀 I'd still like to give it a try.
@AndroidFerret
@AndroidFerret 5 жыл бұрын
I have so much of these devices.. Xda... Vpa... Mda vario 1 2... Vodafone vpa 2... They run win mobile 2003 se und 2006... With between 250 to 690mhz... With the 300 mhz variant is able to play ps1 games... And thousands of win ce games... Cool devices... I love them... You can use it as a retro gaming console... For gba.. Psx.. Gbc.. Sega mega drive... Snes.. Nes... Amiga... And so on... And they cost less than 10 euro
@harshnemesis
@harshnemesis 5 жыл бұрын
Yes pocket pc is amazing, palm was just a budget pda that was easier to use, only real advantage it had, (if you are a pleb who can't handle anything with a learning curve). I have 2x hp ipaq hx4700 (best ppc ever) the dell axim x51v (another great high end pda) the rz1710 (my first pda) which is the budget model. I played the winmo games on that one the most, from 2005-2007 until I got the hx4700. I also have ipaq 214. It was an attempt made in 2008 by hp, basically it's a brother of the hx4700. They did get it right somewhat because they replaced the crappy touchpad with a dpad, a large one at that and improved the battery life. Too bad they shipped it with a buggy wm6 rom and this kills the whole experience, nobody made wm6.1 for that pda, but somebody did make wm6.5(a bloated wm6.1) but that one works like crap too, seems to have same bugs, probably a driver or hardware issue. They also managed to make it thicker.. I mean the hx4700 from 2004 was 14mm and the ipaq 214 is 18mm thick. What the actual fuck? The ipaq Hx4700 shipped with wm2003se (which is good and was the best at the time) and they made an official wm5 upgrade for it, but that upgrade sucks ass, wm5 and wm6 were terrible in general, imagine that with tons of bugs and sluggish performance. Fortunately the community loved the hx4700 so they made made many custom roms of wm6.x and even linux debian (which is on my other hx4700). I got my my custom wm6.1 rom on my main hx4700, it works great.
@AndroidFerret
@AndroidFerret 5 жыл бұрын
@@harshnemesis cool younare collecting these things like me... I put them on a row in my living room... Looks nice... Nowadays i use a bit more advanced technology... Running around with 3 smartphones and one tablet at a time to cover all apps and games i need
@someguy2135
@someguy2135 4 жыл бұрын
@@harshnemesis I bought a lot of different PDA's, including a Pocket PC or two. I preferred the Palm OS. The hardware wasn't as powerful in general, since the OS was more efficient and didn't need to be as powerful to perform well. The much bigger selection of software and accessories also made it more compelling for me. I still use and carry a Palm Treo 700p and own a TX, among others. BTW I also carry an Android phone for calls.
@harshnemesis
@harshnemesis 4 жыл бұрын
@@someguy2135 Windows mobile wasn't exactly bloated either, it was pretty lightweight. It was for sure more flexible and expandable than palmos. Also I don't buy this about optimization, the real reason is because the os wasn't as complex and therefore powerful and the hardware cuts were due to the budget, especially that monocolor display, not because palm os would not need better hardware. You cannot create better hardware with lines of code. Later in the span as hardware became cheaper it was clearly shown that palm os could do better with better hardware that came closer to pocket pc, so the real reason why palm had inferior devices is due to budget cuts so people with less dough could afford a pda... that's who they marketed to... palm was a poorman's pda.
@someguy2135
@someguy2135 4 жыл бұрын
@@harshnemesis The lower price was one reason for its popularity. The popularity resulted in better software and accessory selection.
@JCOdrjones
@JCOdrjones 3 жыл бұрын
Toy Races is just zoomed in Micro Machines. Wild
@Forklift_Fella
@Forklift_Fella 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! How about doing one on early cell phone games?
@manucrespo8268
@manucrespo8268 5 жыл бұрын
I too own a Tungsten E2, loved that device ever since I got it. There's a GSMHosting forum which has a preetty good Palm OS archive (with patches for registration included), and there's also palmarchive.com, which is a huge repository for this kind of abandonware. Kinda let down that you didn't show any more of the Astraware games... There are some gems like the whole Bejeweled series, Hellfire, GTS Racing, My Little Tank, Alchemy, among other cool games... Tho it could be because of the OS limitation (most of these were 5.0+ compatible PRCs).
@benjaminshiels1824
@benjaminshiels1824 Жыл бұрын
Game and watch game GG-9 by Casio was awesome in it's day. I think it came out with some other games but my brother n I used to play it for hrs. Holes in one were particularly difficult. 👍
@Saxdude26
@Saxdude26 3 жыл бұрын
Woah woah woah woah. Rayman on Pocket PC gives you access to the World Map as you progress rather than in post game?! That's actually pretty cool!
@stevedave106
@stevedave106 5 жыл бұрын
I love this video. Palm anything is dead nowadays. Thankyou for your video and making others aware of palm OS and history. Thank you
@someguy2135
@someguy2135 4 жыл бұрын
The Palm Treo smartphones ran neck and neck with Blackberries for the lead, until the original iPhone. I still use my Treo, but not for phone calls.
@gaspardsavoureux8680
@gaspardsavoureux8680 5 жыл бұрын
"The Prison" has a sprite of a question block for New Super Mario Bros
@BiggusWeeabus
@BiggusWeeabus 4 жыл бұрын
This is pretty impressive for the days it was released
@closedcaps
@closedcaps 5 жыл бұрын
you should do a video like this for one of those mid 00's nokia phones it would interesting to see the improvements in the tech.
@FairPlay137
@FairPlay137 5 жыл бұрын
I have quite a few Palm OS devices... I have a Palm IIIx (running 3.0), Palm IIIxe (upgraded from 3.5 to 4.0), Palm m130 (running 4.0), Palm m500 (running 4.1), and Palm m100 (also running 4.0 I think) I loved just downloading PRC files online... One app I'm fond of is MegaClock. It's slightly slow on most of my Palms. It's shareware, though, but I decided to activate MegaClock using a key I found online. It technically falls under "abandonware" these days. Also, Patience 5.0 is honestly among my favorite Solitaire apps for Palm OS.
@jasminefayte9275
@jasminefayte9275 5 жыл бұрын
Whoo, i've been waiting for this one, I still carry my palm around lol Its all but obsolete, but its neat enough to deserve a pocket in my bag
@someguy2135
@someguy2135 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I was an early adopter and had quite a few Palm devices. I still carry a Palm Treo 700p for all my data bases and favorite apps. I use an Android phone to make calls. Which one do you have?
@pferreira1983
@pferreira1983 9 ай бұрын
I think you may have missed that Toy Races is a clone of Micro Machines. Pretty good coverage anyway so thanks. 👍
@Gatorade69
@Gatorade69 4 жыл бұрын
Never played on a Palm but I did have a Pocket PC. That thing could handle NES/Game Boy/Genesis emulation well but the SNES emu was a bit iffy. It was testing time and I had finished and pulled out my PPC with Mike Tyson's Punch out when I look up to see my teacher standing over me. "Sorry, I'll put it away." "Is that Mike Tyson's Punch Out!?" "What !? How are you running it !?" Ending up chatting with the Teacher and he went out and bought one a couple days later. He was a cool guy (and loved Morrowind).
@PaintsAreOp
@PaintsAreOp 3 жыл бұрын
My dad had some Palm back in the day, 2005-2007, probably a lot newer than this one as I remember downloading NES emulator on it and it working great and it even had sound. Playability was horrible though as controls were not very good. I had the same problem as you had, all the games were shareware and developers long since gone. I however remember some viking strategy game that was fun.
@toddnolastname4485
@toddnolastname4485 Жыл бұрын
I got a HandSpring, which used PalmOS, because I thought that would be the form factor going forward (a PDA where you would plug in your cellular device). Then Apple made the iPhone, which is a PDA with the phone and GPS built in.
@SpaceyMcSpacer
@SpaceyMcSpacer 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting... I may pick one up just to see what it is like
@jacksputrid
@jacksputrid 4 жыл бұрын
I owned this...and the upgraded color 130 with sd card slot...had a 32MB card in mine......and proud of it to
@japanesemickeymouse6694
@japanesemickeymouse6694 4 жыл бұрын
the true grandfather of mobile gaming :)
@nickmalcom6360
@nickmalcom6360 4 жыл бұрын
not all palm OS devices had a piezo beeper for sound. later ones had the mobileer me2000, a software based fm/wavetable hybrid synthesiser. also, the tongston has a port of sonic 1 that is based on the 8 bit version.
@verstrahlt1907
@verstrahlt1907 3 жыл бұрын
nice video, good representation and explanation; interesting games. But how do you know at which speed(%) did they run?
@nickmalcom6360
@nickmalcom6360 4 жыл бұрын
Ladder is based on a game originally made for the keypro line of laptop computers.
@Tutturu2006
@Tutturu2006 2 жыл бұрын
2021 comment but whatever…. Just a notice, on some versions of palm (where Bluetooth is supported) you are able to wirelessly transfer files via Bluetooth by opening the settings on windows 10, and then scrolling down after you connect, and there is a button called transfer files vis Bluetooth p, and that somehow works on palm. I was able to use that to get an emulator and games onto the palm without the cradle/dingle because I lost that before.
@KennethOlney
@KennethOlney 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the physical disk of Crimson Fire games way back in high school, and still have it. Want me to dig it up, rip it and send it off to you? They made some great games and the disk has quite a number of extra goodies!
@KevinVeroneau
@KevinVeroneau 5 жыл бұрын
Archive.org has a collection CD-ROM of games which you can download here: archive.org/details/100_Great_Games_for_Palm_OS_and_Handspring_rs_Volume_3_Global_Star_Software_2001 I believe archive.org has other PalmOS games too. There is also a PalmOS emulator on Android called "Phem" which makes it easy to run Palm software if you can dump your ROM. Some fun games I played on Palm were PocketCity(A SimCity clone), iRouge, iLarn and kMoria were alright, of course an official port of Bejeweled exists and it's really well done. There was also an RPG game, I think it was called "Kyle's Quest" or something around those lines. There's also the "StyleTap Platform" that runs only PalmOS 5 apps and games on Android and Windows Mobile. StyleTap doesn't need a ROM image as it emulates PalmOS syscalls and APIs and calls the Android equivalents for near native performance.
@urAnusFighter1
@urAnusFighter1 5 жыл бұрын
I used my pda in middle and hs loved it teachers didnt know how to allow for the tech tho it was a pain explaining every semester.
@FrameRater
@FrameRater 5 жыл бұрын
When I was in college, using it in class teachers thought it was a calculator so I always got away lol.
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