Love your work but why I have to mock religion?

Full Fat Videos I agree with your video completely. Star Wars is like a giant Shakespeare play. You can feel the weight of the scenes. Only thing I’d add is Samuel Jackson adds his own theme and it amplifies Christopher Lee and Ian’s performances (or makes the scenes badass).

@Unlicensed Lurker ah I see you make a living off KZfaq off the back of your successful channel! Thanks for the unsolicited advice!

If you watch the prequels, but skip young anakin and jar jar entirely, then skip the love story part, it sounds crazy, but it's an amazing movie. Like A+. Just try it, any scene with Jar Jar in it as a character not background just skip, any seen with young anakin in phantom menace just skip, when they are on naboo in attack of the clones, skip it. You cut out about 1/4 the prequels but it makes the movies so much better.

If you watch the prequels, but skip young anakin and jar jar entirely, then skip the love story part, it sounds crazy, but it's an amazing movie. Like A+. Just try it, any scene with Jar Jar in it as a character not background just skip, any seen with young anakin in phantom menace just skip, when they are on naboo in attack of the clones, skip it. You cut out about 1/4 the prequels but it makes the movies so much better.

kind of ironic too, when he was younger, he played the older Emporer, when older he played a younger Emporer/Palpatine

Ironic

Murphy08 Ironic.

I just think it's funny how he was 39 by the time ROTJ released, and somehow was cast as a character more than twice his age at the time, and then an oddly convenient 15 something years later he gets cast in the same role in a timeframe where the character is roughly around the same age as him.

@@NamelocTheBard he was only ~24

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise I thought not, it's not a story the jedi would tell you, it's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise, he could use the force to influence the midiclorians to create... life. He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually of course he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew and his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic... he could save others from death. But not himself. Not from a jedi.

Obi-Ron Kenobi ok so did Senate kill him to become him or was he a fallen Jedi.

Why is this story so popular?

@@jackster9775 He was the dark lord of the Sith ,Darth Sidious's master. One of the greatest Dark lords EVER, one of the greatest force sensitives EVER. Sidious is lying here to Anakin. The Jedi didn't even know of his existance. Sidious in that scene was reporpusing a line he said to his master decades before, a line in which he states that he will remembered by future generations of Sith as Darth Plagueis the wise.

This man is aware of the effect he has on women.

That’s a really good way to put it. Makes me look at that scene differently for sure.

Vader yelling NOOOOOOOO does also kinda make sense in episode 3, since he's still the loud, angry, emotional Anakin, he's not the cold, intimidating, ingenious Vader just because he put a cool suit on.

He probably realized he got put in another prison

Not to mention that sound he makes right before screaming. Like the hideously deformed parody of a newborn baby’s cries. Nobody ever mentions it, but I’ve always found it so damn haunting.

It would feel strange if he just found out Padme died and said nothing.

No, I thought his delivery was still a problem. It was like he was trying to sound whimsical, when he should have been more irritated and choppy.

George Lucas couldn't write romantic script for a soap opera, and he couldn't direct an actor to the catering table. He made Natalie Portman, Samuel Jackson and Liam Neeson into local theater rejects with his direction, script and choice of takes. Hayden is not to blame for that shitstorm.

LMAO

Agreed. Sand The sand line is horrible and he makes it seem (only) wooden and not horrible. Try to record that line yourself and make facial expressions and body language to make that line halfway work and you will see that he is a genius to make the sand line work as well as it does.

@SwenglishGamer The line works better than it should, it works just barely, because he made it work that well. He looks at her and he makes that moment look better than it should. He shows how he feels about her, and his comment about sand tells us about his life and it even sounds a tiny bit profound by reminding us about his life up until now. Bad writing can make an actor look bad.

Are you threatening me, master memer?

the senate will decide your fate

....I AM the Senate!! I had to do it...

Aaaaahhhhhhhhh

*Red Lightsaber Sonic Spin*

Troll Level 100

double plus good.

Bro as a kid I had no clue Palpatine was the Emperor. I thought he was the good guy even Attack of the Clones came out. I read a Star Wars book in 2002 or 2003 and it said the Emperor's name was Palpatine and the Sidious/Palpatine connection clicked. But the Emperor is never referred to as Palpatine in the OT, so I never thought much of it before that book.

*surprised pikachu face*

You young fool! Lol

"impossible"

Truly, he has been every voice we have ever heard inside our heads.

@@shaneyy__ The fandom will have failed if that line is not added to the list of Palpatine memes...

@@DemonicRemption knowing the internet it's probably already out there we just gotta find it.

Hearing him speak with his hood on is so....unnerving.

He has said before that when he saw the concept art for Palpatine, the notion that the character should be somewhat reptilian in nature came to him. We sort of see this in Palpatine's costumes throughout the prequel trilogy.

I mean besides palpatine I would say ewan mcgregor also absolutely fucking smashed his role as obi won

@@joshcurtis4522 for sure

"Master Yoda... you survived". Utter hatred in that line.

I agree, but it wasn't the point. George was trying to write a nice poetic forbidden romance like Romeo and Juliet and needed a few more drafts

@@JonahNelson7 Fair. George was always bad at dialogue, but still, Hayden gets all the hate Lucas should've got for the dialogue. There really is no way to say those lines in a way that would look good

I'd still argue that more emotion was needed. There were some romance lines lacking where emotion was pivotal to the believability.

I LOVE the hadcannon that I have for this - Anakin is the face of Clone Wars but that doesn't mean he has to be charismatic and its a kind of subversion that the chosen one is such an awkward human mess and for that portrayal I think both Christiansen and the screenwriting team worked to great success :D

What makes you think Anakin isn’t bright?

Correct.

MEMES!

The prequels are great

Couldn't agree more.

Yeah but Obi wan is overrated

Dont make dialog realistic, make it believable

Man pretty much got tips about pulling birds from literally the biggest virgins in the galaxy

McTommo69420 OG and ironically he had the biggest playboy in the order as a master

@Megan Todd well considering he had like 6 girlfriends in legends while being part of a cult full of virgins, I’d say he got game enough to be called a playboy in comparison of said cult

To be fair Hayden C. was EXCEPTIONAL at Non-Verbal Communication.

As a child that line sounded like he was genuinely sad, creating this creepy sense that Palpatine would kill you while saying "oh I'm so sorry, does that hurt?" sounding like he's gonna cry Like a creature out of a nightmare

That was all him too. He brought all of that malice to what is essentially, on paper, just a line that any other actor may not have delivered on. He was great from the start. I grew up with the Emperor just always being a fully formed thing. I grew up taking him for granted. As a child I didn't even think of it as an actor playing a part. He was just "The Emperor", and I only knew his name was Palpatine through various inquiries and questions to my parents and older cousins. "Who is the Emperor? Why does he look like that?" "I think his name is Palpatine something. I dunno. He's just really old and evil."

Theatre Actor: outdoes Ian McDiarmid's acting Ian McDiarmid: It's treason, then.

Ian McDiarmid: POWER! UNLIMITED POWER!!!

This is really interesting. Star wars has so many classic or theatre actors like this guy and the Obi Wan in the OT. They seem like a different class of actors, and i don't see their career really blowing up. I never even thought about how good Palpatine really was in the star wars movies, thinking he was just bland evil dude, but the performance took that old trope and gave it HOOTSPA. I guess the more impressive a talent is honed, the more subtle details of their expertise is lost on films.

@@DeadSpacedOut I would like this reply, but it's currently at 66 likes, and it should be kept there.

@@QA-ut7dd no need to worry my friend, its now over 66 likes

Especially since none of the prequels are filled with hope or revolution

A few revolutions were occurring lmao, there was a large split between the planetary systems in the republic to the point where the republic called upon an army to combat the opposing side.. the back half of revenge of the sith is literally only a revolution where the republic and Jedi were overthrown by Palpatine, Vader, and the clones. Think before you speak

I agree and I think that villains in a way get hope off of the heroes because a villain will get a drive to try to outdo the heroes like when a actor practice is there lines

Star Wars is an original grimdark universe. There is nothing, but war, misery and a laughing of immortal Emperor. 40k would win gold medal for fictional world I would not want to live in, but damn, Star Wars comes very close second!

It was so funny bcz that's one of the reasons I love Palp.

I actually like this idea

I've always sort of put in Vader screaming whenever I think of this scene. Just the scream of a man who destroyed everything he ever cared about, and is now a slave to his own body forever.

That doesn’t make sense though, because he’s made inaudible noises before, in fact he did so in that very scene.

Wasn't it in the novel?

I'm fairly sure that you can hear him making a coughing, almost gagging sound at the news right before he yells, so that is actually possible

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"Search your feelings, you know it to be true."

"Not yet"

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"I don't like sand... it's coarse and rough... and it gets everywhere... oh hi Mark, say hello to my little friend"

Keep in mind that Anakin was a slave on a desert planet. He has every right to hate sand.

It annoys me how many people criticise that line while taking it at face value, forgetting that Anakin isn't actually talking about sand at all.

@@jackbaxter2223 This. It's actually a good line that helps build his character, but because everyone who doesn't understand thinks he's actually talking about sand it's apparently terrible.

@@ninjaworld101 he fuckin hates it.

It's probably really fun to play such an unabashedly evil character, and he certainly seems to channel that enjoyment.

A good actor can take even pretty bad dialogue and work with it. That's why the seasoned actors playing obi-wan, Duku, and Palpatine did pretty well with the bad dialogue. They didn't selectively give Hayden all the bad lines.

They gave him the absolute worst lines though. Big and little Annie both had shit lines.

Lucas also assumed that the renowned Natalie Portman would help carry him through the scenes. But she was just there for the paychecks and this frustrated Hayden.

Perhaps a better actor wouldn't follow the script verbatim and improvise to make it better in their mind. But yes, I generally agree with your sentiment.

@@isaacmccracken5870 Natalie Portman is also a skilled actor though and she did even worse than Christiansen. They both had the worst lines. George Lucas doesn't know how to write a romantic relationship.

I thought “Dew it!” was the biggest one.

@@VulpseiusFox I didn't really see many 'Dew It' memes at the time, until the Game Grumps made jokes about it.

Hello there disagrees

Barney The Dinosaur “General Kenoobi...” XD

It over Anakin I have the high ground I am the senate Another happy landing Hello there GENERAL KENOBI Dew it Gooooood Time to abandon ship You underestimate my pOWer This party's over Nooooooooo UNLIMITED POWA You don't want to sell me deathsticks

I used it at work. I love that line because it is so elemental.

It baffles me how that's always the go-to line when pointing out the Prequels' bad dialogue. The fireplace scene in AOTC is worse by light-years and far less defensible than "I don't like sand".

It never gets old, just like those younglings...

@@divergenttardis7378 Ahh yeah BDSM scene LOL so funny and awkward. Hayden was just not main actor material. IMO he was not bad per say. But man Lucas didn't help to build chemistry on set.

In fairness, it’s a prime example.

Right was I found your comment he said it...

so basically Donald Trump in his wet dreams.

@Han Lockhart i make one Donald Trump joke and one butthurt supporter gets mad... thats kinda sad.

@Han Lockhart yeah sure... that sounds like something a perfectly sane person would reply...

@Han Lockhart Lockhart is right. You're on a completely unrelated topic about a fictional character in a fictional universe that was relevant long before Trump was, and yet you mention Trump out of the blue. That means he's on your mind. It's basic psychology.

@@TheStraightestWhitest your name says enough about you man, thats all im saying.

Only reason they don't have back issues is that they worked together to carry it xD

Hayden was my favorite from the prequels!

Liam Neeson, Christopher Lee?

Samuel L Jackson was great too.

Its a bit poetic that the people who carried the prequels, have quite similar names

I legit have to admit that i did not know that they where played by the same actor untill the scene where Anakin kills Dooku in ROTS. That's when i figuerd it out and felt like an idiot

Christopher Reeve as Superman pulled the same trick when playing as Clark Kent.

Very true. "It's treason then" - you can feel the gigantic ego he relishes in, knowing the jedi are terrified of him, that he absolutely owns every single one of them, and now he's finally able to show it! The Senate IS Star Wars imo.

Yeah, still does.

Prequels>original trilogy

Adjuni no one thinks the prequels suck

At least the prequels made the animated Clone Wars series.

Levi Smith Yessssss!

:D

Lefter Mc From Oz?

Monkey?

@@nathanb4424 Star Sprangled Man with a Plan?

Nostalgia critic said it best: It really is one of the best scenes in that whole trilogy, if not the best. The pacing, the atmosphere, the delivery, the music, the story, it's all perfect.

I thought it was from fond memories of electricuting the absolute shit out of him.

I also love the grin when anakin says “is it possible to learn this power?” “Not from a Jedi”

@@thorinhannahs4614 It's both. On the verge of his greatest triumph, he takes a look back at happy memories of one of the most important victories that brought him to where he now is.

@@roberts316 hm? Are you suggesting Darth Plagueis was Palpatine's master?

i’m okay in principle with rogue one existing, i just wish it wasn’t so iffy in regards to continuity. they weren’t even spies

Rogue 1 is at least better than episode 1 and 2.

@@thatoneguy609 Wrong Death Star, you're thinking of the second one Rachel&Johan Hyatt No all of the prequels are great. Rouge One may of been the best Disney film and the only one to capture the spirit of Star Wars (which is impressive as it to my knowledge had no direct involvement from George or his pupil Dave) but it doesn't surpass anything George has done.

TheSwordsman100 that’s debatable, the acting and direction are objectively better. You can not like the story, or the characters. But they movie is better than all three of the prequels in terms of factual information. (Honestly, I think R1 is the worst Disney movie, I prefer Solo and TLJ. But preferences are preferences, but our place to judge)

@@holden_7597 Debatable? Sure, fandoms debate about everything all the time, objectively better though? Nope. I also don't hate RO's story and characters, like I said before, its the only good Disney movie. The rest nearly killed off the SW brand. If it wasn't for CW or the Mandolarian SW would be dead.

And in all three roles, he was the Senate

oddly enough, he was a last minute replacement for who they were going to cast as Palpatine and he turned out to be fantastic

@@isaactorres7525 not yet

Well who else is going to kill a Sith Lord? Has to be the Jedi. Also he's upping his value in front of his... boss is the wrong word, but you get the idea.

It’s a great line, *ironic* that he says that in front of a sith lord, who I’m sure had to hold in a cackle, but a great line. Hayden needed to own the cheesiness of a space opera a little more. Fantastic actor, but not for a Star Wars movie.

"Sith lords are our speciality" Palpatine, the sith lord: wat

Matt I. He is lol

Matt I. I also felt like he was telling himself “this is easier than I thought it was gonna be” during the opera scene.

Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?

@@kevmasengale6903 I can't say I have

I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend.

Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic he could save others from death, but not himself.

@@kevmasengale6903 it all comes full circle that's deep

Obi Wan had +5 to athletics and affinity for high ground

Leaving your friend to burn to death instead of just ending him there doesn't seem very moral to me, bud.

@@syweb2 I agree. It doesn't seem very moral to me. For whatever reason, I don't think a lot of people get the idea that Obi Wan probably didn't have the heart to kill a young man who he had raised from the time he was a child, despite what he had become. Not cowardice, but a perceived failure to live up to his masters last wish, a lost friendship, and a brother deceased, despite his still living.

That’s literally demonstration of Obi Wan still believing in Jedi codi (don’t kill unarmed enemy, remember?)

probably didnt realize the new emperor was gonna hightail it over there and save vader either. he probably thought "sith killed each other all the time way back when and palpy runs the universe, charbroiled ani is good for everyone except anakin" and then when palpatines big hard breathing cyborg showed back up obiwan went "sh*t"

tbh all Obi Wan lines are gold.

@@the_emmo Is it the lines though, or just how well they are delivered?

Agreed. Most of the lines people give as examples of "bad dialogue" actually aren't bad at all. They fit. This is a great example. There really is nothing wrong with that line

@@rikudoubapeck "From my point of view, the jedi are evil"

@@KyleDB150 "Well then you are lost!". Seriously though explain to me what's actually wrong with it in the context of ROTS

Nah like sixth

It would have been nice to have him around for longer.

Space Karen

I'd buy that shirt.

The dark side of the Force is a pathway to MANY abilities some consider to be....unnatural

Obi wan is universally loved as well.

What abt Rogue One, that didn’t get fans to b overly critical.

That was one of the dumber lines🙄 It annoys me especially because there were some very good arguments he could have made, but no, nothing was played out properly.

I think George Lucas just couldn't stop himself from doing a very obscure call-back to Old Ben's "from a certain point of view" line.

@@saswitchcraft7881 That's EXACTLY why that's there, I'm sure of it...

@@annnee6818 Yeah but would that have really worked with his character? Anakin didnt exactly leave after formulating some kind of formal case against the jedis policies. He betrayed them on an impulse, he was an impulsive guy. I think the line works, maybe there was a better one? Who knows really directing is complicated.

@Morahman7vnNo2 I always thought the reason for the Jedi's defeat was never clear enough, obviously, Anakin was manipulated and forced into becomming a Sith, but the Jedi big time fucked up, they were too big for their own good, they became involved in politics and war, they were almost corrupt, but I feel like that's only ever really explored in the EU. Is it just me? Maybe I'm missing the point. I'm not sure.

Fat side: Ronald McDonald.

Which is a strange contrast to the new ones where it is more the other way around.

It's kinda like what happened to Batman and Robin... XD

The plotline for phantom menace was weak

Actually, the PT has a terrible structure. The Phantom Menace is completely pointless, since it is set 10 years before the second one. Nine year old Anakin is basically a completly different character and we barely see him together with Obi-Wan. The trilogy should have started much later in the story and should have focused more on their relationship and adventures before and during the clone wars.

@@Flashplayer65 I think it's a good backdrop. Anakin being a wide eye innocent boy, despite being a slave, is optimistic and and is actually doing fairly well for himself, being a great racer and mechanic, and being with a loving mother. How would he have turned out if he had just stayed on that rock? I think Anakin was doomed the moment he was noticed by the Jedi. He could have made himself a life on Tatooine. It's a tragedy

@2manynegativewaves and I think this reflects our "humans are mostly good" philosophy. Talk for yourself, that's a leftist doctrine and that's why you find it in Hollywood.

@2manynegativewaves Don't compare Palpatine to the people in office. Its an insult to Palpatine. He's atleast smart about how he does things

I'm actually tired of the "every human being is just a good person making bad choices" trope. Its already gotten old.

@@soulveiw nah, it's actually been studied. People in high office and heads of corporations share traits with sociopaths.

@@paulheap1982 most aren't though

The prequels suffered every time a character under 20 or named Jar Jar appeared on screen. Cut to just Palpatine, Dooku, Kenobi, Maul, and Qui-Gon, there'd have been 3 hours of excellent film.

He heavily studied him as well as his mannerisms and his scenes from the Original Trilogy so great spot!

The things we dislike about the prequels are intentional. People told Lucas a new hope was shit and they redited it to what we know today.

@@blackhammer5035 Except Maul was the same age as Obi-Wan in TPM, late teens/early 20s. Anakin was 22 in Revenge of the Sith. Padme was 24 in Attack of the Clones and 27 in Revenge of the Sith... Your logic is flawed, sir.

@@danmenard6917 Maul was actually younger than Kenobi.....

Yeah, but I think the scream improvised to ham the scene, the lore only added afterwards. Like mace windu's purple lightsaber only because samuel l jackson wanted purple lightsaber and count dooku's curved lightsaber handle because it suits christopher lee fencing style

I love seeing Spider-Verse work.

This is what happens when 500 books are written by 200 people about the same 20 characters

Well given Obi Wan did a Force Scream to scare off the sand people in A New Hope it's not new. It seemed very intentional given I can't imagine anyone could make that sound without editing.

@@@magvad6472 Exactly! :D

@@magvad6472 Wait, what? A 'force scream'? He was pretty clear in the film in explaining he was mimmicking some big beasty they are scared of... So it being a 'force scream' is the product of the same circle jerk of extended universe writers...

About the "force scream" thing, pretty sure that sound was distorted in order to sound inhumane, the Dark Side revealing itself and all that

Loose Tube the funniest part is that I genuinely read Palpatine instead of the Senate in this comment.

RooskiWolf as opposed to what ?

He is underrated while his character is overrated.

No offense but there are a shitload of British actors in the last 60 years who fall under that category, and especially before the Harry Potter movies came out when it was almost impossible for a British person to get a lead in a Hollywood movie if they couldn't fake an American accent or weren't playing James Bond.

@@majordbag2 like John Cleese despite his great success.

@@divyangvaidya9675 Well first of all, I said *almost* impossible to make it big so there's going to be some exceptions but even then John Cleese isn't one of them. The majority of his big films, i.e. Monty Python and A Fish Called Wanda, were British made films that had decent success in the USA. To be fair, Cleese had a great American career overall but mostly in minor roles, like the King in Shrek 2 or R in the Bond movies, and nowhere near that megastars from the 70-90s like Clint Eastwood, Eddie Murphy, George Clooney, Bruce Willis, or any of the Hollywood A-listers who took leading roles. At best he wound up as a high-grade B list actor. The biggest British stars I can think of in the US before the Potter movies changed everything are Christian Bale and Hugh Laurie and guess what? All their big American roles had them faking being American. Just trust me here, before the Potter movies it was much harder (note that doesn't mean impossible) for British actors to get leading roles without faking an American accent.

The novel made Palpatine's evil far less evident, I guess in order for Anakin's fall to be more believable (mission accomplished). I mean, in the movie, he is BLATANTLY evil all the time (not for McDiarmid's fault, but the dialogues are what they are, as the video says). In the novel, on the contrary, his conversations with Anakin almost remember me of Dumbledore's conversations with Harry Potter in the HP's novels. Except that this Dumbledore is evil and is subtly corrupting the victim's soul. P.S. Which means that Palpatine is basically Dumbledore's wisdom and knowledge combined with Voldemort's lust for power and evil nature. Which is... pretty terrifying if you think about it.

@@rickblaine9670 yeah, some of his lines flip between the two positions in the novelisation, there's even a line where he offers CORELIA to Anakin (and he says either the planet or the system) and he basically says 'come on everybody let's do it' during the novel's version of his speech for establishment of the Galactic Empire.

@@Jedi_Spartan_38 Exactly. The "let's do it" to the Senate was maybe a bit too much lol :) but on the other hand, it was meant to estabilish that the Senate was completely corrupted and at his mercy by the end of the Clone Wars. He could have invited them all to punch themselves in the face and they would've done it with a smile.

@@rickblaine9670 The novel is probably what Lucas imagined the film looking like. Lol

Well put.

Palpatine is definitely that person in a bush with silenced weapon, Ghost and Second Chance

Is that a yogs ttt reference

Or prone with an mmg

Lol I thought similarly that it would be his waiting game

Or in reference to the new Modern Warfare, camping in a room with a shotty and Killchain so he can achieve his killstreaks easier for *U* *N* *L* *I* *M* *I* *T* *E* *D* *POWWWWWEEEEERRRRRR*

Perfectly balanced as all things should be

Ironic

And here we thought it was Anakin to bring balance to the Fore. . . but it was Palpy and Jar-Jar. . . Who'd'a ever thunk it?

It’s like poetry. It rhymes.

What if Jarjar is a hidden secret Sith apprentice to Darth Plagueis.

Nope, the plot was awful so even his acting couldn't save it

Sammy Martin Makes sense. All the other actors are just kind of standing there stoically

That's all acting schools, good ones anyway, no matter the nationality. That's not really why he stood out. He stood out because of his sheer commitment to it. He wasn't blocked by "this is bad dialogue" in his head like some of the other actors in the Prequels. He was completely free and in the moment.

Nuvakwahu I needed this.

ROFL That is awesome!!

This is exactly how Mark Hamill would react too. Lmao

Looks like a fanfic that needs to be written.

in my head I played this scene out robot chicken style

@Darth Sidious Im sure hes a great actor, but the shitty writing renders him ineffective. Kylo isnt scary, menacing, or intimidating. He's pathetic.

@Darth Sidious He sucked at that too.

@@hullbreach33 That was the point of his character. A pathetic Vader wannabee, constantly in the shadows of his family, eager to prove that he's more than just a Skywalker or a Solo. But I agree, he could have been written way better.

He's his own character. Maneuvering for decades in the background in order to take power

@@stevencoardvenice Julius Caesar literally did that

@@Jim54_ cesar was way more flamboyant and direct

I agree Rogue One was a great movie

Not to mention that he had to hide his true nature for *years.* At long last he could finally break his charade and show himself as he really was.

Yoda does not fuck around, and Palpatine rightfully feared him.

menecross I think Yoda wins in a fair fight

@Sez B That's the downside of the sith. They get high off their own power.

@@MattyMadderzz yes the ground was against Yoda in the chamber. Yet could Yoda have killed the other masters as quick in the office? Maybe same speed not faster Palpatine was a master as well.

"Oh fuck no one likes our new charactersbl, quick! Palpatine will work!"

Man this hit my feels

@@endorneyodera4366 Audience: hated TLJ Disney : I'll try Palatine, that's a good trick!

Conor Corrigan Came from the future to tell you Disney did just that.

Caleb Mol By making Rey his granddaughter.

From a certain point of view.

The Faux Fox Just Vader in general was a beast. Hell even when he was talking to Krennic you can tell that he was sick of the Director’s excuses.

Rogue One and Solo are the only decent ones to come out since Disney took over the franchise.

Arthur Nichols I honestly never understood the complaints against the film.

@@SugarfreeYT Solo was trash

If Vader can move that fast normally why doesn't he in ESB or RotJ? He's Vader not a Force sensitive Xenomorph That's just shitting on your own cannon which is what a lot of Rogue One did. It's also the first Star Wars anything that didn't include the dialogue crawl that I've seen. It was the best thing Disney has done yes but when you add something like a ship that can cut a Star Destroyer in half you should probably explain why we never see it again. At least we know why we don't see Snowspeeders twice because the AT AT on Endor isn't in the battle and the speeders would likely hit the trees. Why not just have the next force sensitive person use the force like Goku and fire a kamehameha wave? It'd look cool but in a universe where no one has done it then it leads to questions.