Palpatine's SURPRISING Original Backstory (Pre-Empire Strikes Back) | Star Wars Lore

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EckhartsLadder

EckhartsLadder

6 жыл бұрын

George Lucas had a very different backstory created for Emperor Palpatine when he created Star Wars. In today's Star Wars Lore video, I'll detail that backstory, and examine the changes!
George Lucas created about a dozen different versions of Star Wars, before settling on the one that we finally got. There's treasure in those old drafts, including the original backstory of Star Wars' Emperor Palpatine. Even the A New Hope Novelization is extensively different than the movie itself. During the Death Star conference scene, we hear Grand Moff Tarkin announce that the Emperor has abolished the senate. The Emperor he's talking about, is far different than the one that we would end up seeing in the Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. All of that and more on today's very special Sheev Palpatine dedicated Star Wars Lore video.
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@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder 6 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, hope you liked today's video! It's a bit different, but I have a few videos on original backstories planned. If you'd like to see more, make sure to give this video a like! I'll also be streaming some more Battlefront II on twitch tonight! www.twitch.tv/eckhartsladder.
@guilty_mulburry5903
@guilty_mulburry5903 6 жыл бұрын
EckhartsLadder was there ever an ugly capital ship (two ships, usually from different factions e.g. y-wing with tie cockpit, merged together)?
@guilty_mulburry5903
@guilty_mulburry5903 6 жыл бұрын
random guy how could he not he's a star wars fan
@guilty_mulburry5903
@guilty_mulburry5903 6 жыл бұрын
random guy you are learning well my apprentice
@guilty_mulburry5903
@guilty_mulburry5903 6 жыл бұрын
random guy ehh its fine, we all ask stupid questions, I could've pointed it out nicer, and not like an arseholr
@DoctorKalkyl
@DoctorKalkyl 6 жыл бұрын
Yay! A video I (sort of) asked for! Thanks!
@bathroom_joke
@bathroom_joke 4 жыл бұрын
I choose to believe the Robot Chicken backstory, where he was just a real estate agent on Naboo
@waaaaaaah5135
@waaaaaaah5135 4 жыл бұрын
It is a pretty good backstory
@ryanpeacock9004
@ryanpeacock9004 4 жыл бұрын
That was pretty Wizard.
@videos8159
@videos8159 2 жыл бұрын
Robot chicken and lego star wars are the only real canon fans can agree on
@teleportedbreadfor3days
@teleportedbreadfor3days Жыл бұрын
@@videos8159 And Legends
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 7 ай бұрын
​@videos8159 Yeah, apparently so 😅 though I've never seen the Robot Chicken version
@IceBear-ph4uf
@IceBear-ph4uf 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, how can palpating "dissolve" the senate if he IS the senate?
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish 6 жыл бұрын
IceBear5426 The emperor is not all ruling. A lot of decisions are made in the senate. Palatine just removed this altogether and became a dictator that had a few close military Grand Moffs that did his bidding.
@willieodea4941
@willieodea4941 6 жыл бұрын
Stefan Holmqvist you'll pay the price for your lack of vision, he IS the Senate
@litjellyfish
@litjellyfish 6 жыл бұрын
meme123 if he was the senate why did he want to dissolve it then? :)
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 6 жыл бұрын
*enlightenment*
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 6 жыл бұрын
If you look at it that way then Vader was the one who dissolved the senate in ROJ
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 6 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness they made Palpatine the Senate rather then being controlled by The Senate
@davidmccarthy4206
@davidmccarthy4206 5 жыл бұрын
That'd be ironic
@evm6177
@evm6177 3 жыл бұрын
Now i know why most people hate on Lucas showing the truth in Star Wars.. they are part of the cult who want the Republic to fall and the Tyrant to rise.. And they are afraid of the warning signs! 🍷 🕶
@CocoHutzpah
@CocoHutzpah 4 жыл бұрын
If Palpatine was not an evil sorcerer, it would be hard to believe that Vader would serve him.
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 Жыл бұрын
Merlin served Arthur... or did he serve the dragon?...
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 7 ай бұрын
​@@seanhewitt603 Well, that's also cause Arthur was Nobility, just saying 😅 and had the fancy, prophetic power
@ESFNinja
@ESFNinja 6 жыл бұрын
Palpatine's descent into the dark side was not just the result of his childhood, but from the sand getting EVERYWHERE.
@darthvader4594
@darthvader4594 6 жыл бұрын
Captain Cutter stop with this sand madness.
@greaterhalo0659
@greaterhalo0659 6 жыл бұрын
sir are you ok you seem to have a sand obsession?
@itsyaboidaniel2919
@itsyaboidaniel2919 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you still aren't that Anime weeb bullshit "Captain Fosou" or some shit and are now Captain Cutter instead
@samba1367
@samba1367 6 жыл бұрын
So we have Captain Cutter, an ODST and Darth Vader in one conversation... How will it end?
@ESFNinja
@ESFNinja 6 жыл бұрын
Sam BA It should have been a bar joke :p
@PhilDrury
@PhilDrury 6 жыл бұрын
In the 80s I was convinced that "the dark times" of the empire were a few centuries and the emperor was at least as old as Yoda. I also thought Obiwan was a few centuries old as well. But hey, I was half a decade old so what else would I think?
@MrmerryPippin-tw6rv
@MrmerryPippin-tw6rv Жыл бұрын
honestly in a lot of ways that makes sense.
@bryankennedy3719
@bryankennedy3719 25 күн бұрын
No it was like that back then lol You weren't alone
@Nrex117
@Nrex117 6 жыл бұрын
Richard Nixon: Unlimited Power! AROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Thought of Futurama lol
@davesmith6794
@davesmith6794 5 жыл бұрын
"Good evening ignorant pigs!"
@trisial6997
@trisial6997 4 жыл бұрын
You made a joke and then ruined it by telling us the reference... Gtfo
@histguy101
@histguy101 4 жыл бұрын
Palpatine: "I am not a crook. I have worked hard for everything I have earned."
@feralcyborggaming1531
@feralcyborggaming1531 4 жыл бұрын
"Put down your crack pipes and your beer bongs"
@mrichar9
@mrichar9 4 жыл бұрын
"I'll sneak into their houses at night and wreck UP ThE PLaCe."
@Masterge77
@Masterge77 6 жыл бұрын
I like the version of Palpatine we ultimately got in Return of the Jedi and eventually the Prequel Trilogy, because it makes him a far more malevolent entity and an actual threat than just something like Hitler in Space while Darth Vader did all the dirty work for him. Also, I'd love to see you make videos on the early versions of the Star Wars films. In fact, the very first script for the first film was actually made into a comic series called "The Star Wars", and it gives an insight on a version of the film that could have been.
@quqbalam5089
@quqbalam5089 6 жыл бұрын
Palpatine ended up being even more like Hitler in space than he originally was. A chancellor who establishes a dictatorship? It's just like Hitler.
@ltb1345
@ltb1345 6 жыл бұрын
I read "The Star Wars". It was cool.
@robcrimaldi3165
@robcrimaldi3165 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen Lucus film "T.H.X 1138" ? Made before star wars episode 4. Old movie. I believe it is linked to star wars. Takes place on Earth. In the starwars universe wonder where all humans come from living in a galaxy of aliens. Originally humans came from earth. Well in Thx 1138 robots officially robots were using humans to mind control and build an army. The humans were taken from above . This army they built i believe was the creation of an army, " The Empire" just my thoughts on your note. All of star wars trilogy starts with films are thx surround sounds! And, 1138 is mentioned in star wars 4. 1138 is the princesses prison room. There is evidence earth is a part of the star wars universe.
@perfectcell5613
@perfectcell5613 5 жыл бұрын
@@robcrimaldi3165 * star wars galaxy* L2 read
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 5 жыл бұрын
@@quqbalam5089 Also a bit like Lincoln... fighting separatists organized in a Confederacy, by creating a Grand Army of the Republic.
@GeonusKaikun
@GeonusKaikun 5 жыл бұрын
The line in A New Hope's novelization about Palpatine becoming a puppet figurehead may still make sense, from a certain point of view. We know that the galaxy was not aware that Palpatine was a Sith Lord. It could have been by design that, for his own protection, he began to tweak the system so that it would appear to the public that the true power lie with the Council of Moffs. The reality, of course, is that the emperor retained absolute power all along.
@347Jimmy
@347Jimmy 4 жыл бұрын
"Lavish gold robes" Glad they didn't go with that idea, it's more something a Supreme Leader would wear, not really appropriate for an Emperor
@LordDim1
@LordDim1 4 жыл бұрын
Have you.. seen ANY Emperor of ALL history? Lavish golden robes is EXACTLY what an emperor would wear
@347Jimmy
@347Jimmy 4 жыл бұрын
Lord Dim 1 I was making a reference to the idea being reused for Snoke after the idea was dropped by Lucas ;)
@TheTmgrin
@TheTmgrin 4 жыл бұрын
I know, imagine an arrogant authoritarian surrounding himself with gold. Preposterous.
@pktheviking
@pktheviking 3 жыл бұрын
@347Jimmy I thought the exact same thing.
@shapshapshapshap2829
@shapshapshapshap2829 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean I bet if he did wear a gold robe he would immediately die after being hyped up
@user-eh6en9nx3o
@user-eh6en9nx3o 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, back when he was known as "Frank" Palpatine
@CommanderCodyChipless
@CommanderCodyChipless 4 жыл бұрын
Jar Jar Binks was supposed to be that "secret" emperor that was controlling palpatine
@michaelmcgee2026
@michaelmcgee2026 4 жыл бұрын
So true. I heard a rumor his original back story was too dark for kids so they had to scrap it.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Jar Jar was originally supposed to be Darth Plagueis, but he wound up being too polarizing of a character for this to work.
@JadiYt
@JadiYt 6 жыл бұрын
- The backstory of Bossk - The backstory of Greedo - What do bounty hunters get paid?
@paladinrockwell1908
@paladinrockwell1908 6 жыл бұрын
Credits, guns, legal and illegal goods, "other services" and "favors" ( if you catch my drift)
@treystephens4490
@treystephens4490 6 жыл бұрын
Medieval Guy , Boba Fett would always steal bounties from Bossk. He almost felt sorry for him. Almost.
@nhayes481
@nhayes481 6 жыл бұрын
lawyers guns and money
@_Teej_264
@_Teej_264 6 жыл бұрын
55i I heard the day he was shot was actually Greedos first day
@wintersbeauty194
@wintersbeauty194 6 жыл бұрын
55i depends on the bounty
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar 4 жыл бұрын
I get heavy Dune vibes from the early Star Wars concepts.
@tombarnes6923
@tombarnes6923 6 жыл бұрын
If the prequels portrayed Palpatine as being manipulated by a shadow council, I believe this could have given him sympathy from the audience. Once they trusted him, he would then reveal himself to be the manipulator himself. This could've been as big as the "I am your father" reveal in my opinion. Just throw in another Palpatine character who seems kinda shady just to throw the audience off.
@gargoyles9999
@gargoyles9999 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Barnes wouldn't have worked. Vader makes people visibly afraid with his mere presence regardless of rank and yet he bows down to a simple politician? Unless the theme of Vaders subservience to the Emperor was done away with and kept with as being merely someone useful to keep government in line. Of course then he couldn't be used as a real threat
@MGSBigBoss77
@MGSBigBoss77 6 жыл бұрын
Because the mere simple politician was a Sith Lord who was even more powerful and arcane in the darkside than Vader himself. Which was the whole point of the Emperor being somewhat more of a "Druid" in his appearance in ROTJ. It hearkens back to our own stories of evil sorcerers and magicians who knew of dark and mysterious powers in legends, ancient mythological and mythology of mankind! Vader's subservience to the Emperor spells out exactly just how dangerous and powerful the Emperor is in his own right! Vader was always meant to represent the dangerous and powerful; Black Knight. But the Emperor? Is his boss nuff said really. Lethal as the "Black Knight" is in medieval mythology, even he answers to somebody else in the hierarchy of those old legends. Same can be said of the Sith Lords in the Star Wars canon as well! Darth Vader's a footsoldier not the overlord who rules, but seeks to one day rule himself perhaps!
@tombarnes6923
@tombarnes6923 6 жыл бұрын
gargoyles9999 I never said the Emperor shouldn't have been force sensitive. I was merely stating that if they portrayed Palpatine as a character who was trying to do the right thing, that could be trusted but is being manipulated by a false shadow council would have gained sympathy from the audience along with Anakin.
@MGSBigBoss77
@MGSBigBoss77 6 жыл бұрын
But who's the real villain there then? "A false shadow council" isn't a physical body or person but a group of unknowns??! This is probably why it was best to have Palpatine as the shadowy villain in the prequels who is the main villain, who is a; master manipulator of the events that unfolded in the prequels! A shadow council wouldn't have worked out in the long run i think, given how the OT already existed and spoke of Palpatine's somewhat in the SW novels.
@user-yl6yx9rm3g
@user-yl6yx9rm3g 6 жыл бұрын
The revelation of Palpatine being Sidious, and Sidious becoming the Emperor actually blew me away.
@brokeneyes6615
@brokeneyes6615 5 жыл бұрын
Palpatine: I am not a crook. Vader: Sire, we have recovered the Death Star plans from the Star Gate Hotel. Palpatine: ... dissolve the senate!
@GanonGhidorah
@GanonGhidorah 5 жыл бұрын
In a sense, I think that some of this did get retooled and repackaged to where, it wasn't necessarily retconned, but simply misinterpreted. In the original story, the Emperor is effectively a powerless puppet figure who is controlled by his constituents - kind of like how Sheev denounces Valorum in Phantom. But more importantly, the canon - or some that I've read - implies that Palpetine actually did very little AS the Emperor, as he simply left it up to his advisors to rule in his stead, so that he could be free to explore the further mysteries of the Dark Side. He wanted the Death Star, to replace him as the ever-present looming authority that he held as the Emperor, so that the galaxy would behave, even without him watching it. So in a sense, from someone on the outside, they could see that whenever they would want to speak to or appeal to the Emperor, only to be blocked by people who were beneath him, it might seem to those unknowing, that he was being controlled by these people, and was nothing more than a figure-head.
@ultratankie
@ultratankie 6 жыл бұрын
As much as I love the existing Palpatine, I've always liked the idea of looking at the original 1977 film and pretending that nothing else exists, with Tarkin being the guy who's really in charge and the Emperor being a puppet, Luke's father and Darth Vader being different people, and the Empire collapsing after "a thousand thousand" star systems join the Rebellion when the Death Star is destroyed.
@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847
@jasoethesentienteyeshapedg4847 6 жыл бұрын
It was all fun and games until the theory about the rebels being space terrorists and the galactic empire being the good guys. It just had to ruin it.
@datrevmeister
@datrevmeister 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Empire Strikes Back came out I was really hoping to hear the back story of Anakin Skywalker apart from being Darth Vader. That story would have worked for me very well too
@Jessymandias
@Jessymandias 5 жыл бұрын
I have a similar idea. and I think it makes Palpatine even more sinister. In A New Hope, the government is reminiscent of much of feudal japan: the head of state is technically the emperor, but everyone knows that the shogun is one who actually runs the country. In my mind Tarquin is the head of a military junta that does all the work, and the emperor is a political figurehead. Palpatine's greatest obstacle in seizing power is not the rebels, but these military and industrial leaders. But, he can predict the future, and to an extent control the future. Palpatine, encouraged Tarquin to take risks, knowing that the rebels could destroy the station. And when the first death start is destroyed, so is the Grand Moff, the commercial interests that built the station bankrupt, the military officers humiliated. This creates a vacuum, where Palpatine appoints his own officers, especially Vader, to positions of prominance, and Vader, unlike the earlier Moffs get results--and they get the results not from scientific means, but through spiritual forces. By Return of the Jedi, the empire has transformed almost to the point of a theocracy. Decisions used to be made by boring old men in stiff uniforms, now they are being made by cult like mystics in robes. The emperor now has his own death start, not just a station but a new palace, a new capital. And in the final battle he orders his admirals, the only people in the empire who could rival him, to just watch and prevent the rebels from escaping while he, personally, destroys them from his thrown. and it would have worked too. But Luke did something he never could have predicted.
@noahmartinez38
@noahmartinez38 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jessymandias I loved this
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 5 жыл бұрын
Tarkin was so badass, talking down to Vader as if he was a regular thug.
@BoisegangGaming
@BoisegangGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I really like these types of videos- I like to write stories myself, so seeing other writers' revisions and retoolings of plot elements and characters is cool.
@TokyoXtreme
@TokyoXtreme 6 жыл бұрын
Palpatine’s backstory changed considerably compared to Snoke’s - considering that neither Abrams nor Johnson ever bothered to write one, much less film it.
@RoyalFusilier
@RoyalFusilier 6 жыл бұрын
It's hard to argue that now. Snoke always bothered me for the same reason the good guys being 'the Resistance' did, because it was a no-effort copy-paste, but I thought, maybe Snoke will be cool. Then nope. As it stands, he literally almost doesn't have a character whatsoever. It's more like he's a force of nature, or rather, a narrative device with no in-character bones beyond 'me big, me bad, me yell at kylo'.
@Paulafan5
@Paulafan5 6 жыл бұрын
I think we were all under the impression that the trilogy was basically mapped out (not entire scripts, but the general storylines). It's sad when there's a dozen Snoke theories on KZfaq that are far more engaging than what actually happened (ie nothing). From being a Palpatine clone, Plagueis reborn, or Mace Windu... My theory (jokingly) was that he was Jar Jar Binks... He did grant Palpatine executive powers to create an army...
@scruffyrodriguez7698
@scruffyrodriguez7698 5 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with the new trilogy is that they kinda make one movie at a time. They didnt really plan the trilogy
@dylancotton2061
@dylancotton2061 5 жыл бұрын
Nah I think Abrams probably had something maped out but he made the stupid mistake of letting Johnson right episode 8
@bebo2629
@bebo2629 5 жыл бұрын
But we never get the backstory of characters in the movies.
@charlescilek2281
@charlescilek2281 6 жыл бұрын
A legends video on the Jedi allowed to have families/mate/love (i.e. Ki Adi Mundi)
@a.morphous66
@a.morphous66 6 жыл бұрын
Ki-Adi Mundi is allowed to have a wife and children because of the incredibly low birth rate on his planet among his species.
@charlescilek2281
@charlescilek2281 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, and I feel like there are other similar cases of exceptions throughout legends and I'm quite curious about it
@theevildrummingsithlord1492
@theevildrummingsithlord1492 6 жыл бұрын
Jolee Bindo (KOTOR) describes why the "anti-love" philosophy was flawed
@Keihryon
@Keihryon 6 жыл бұрын
Also Corran Horn's grandfather.
@DragonbornPrime
@DragonbornPrime 6 жыл бұрын
Quinlan Vos fell in love with Assaj Ventress allbeit he was dabbling in the Darkside at the time. And like Anakin there may have been Jedi whom had love but never told the Jedi Order. Obi Wan and Satine , Ahsoka and Lux... Come to think of it Yoda and Yaddles species were rare,, Yoda going 900yrs without even a one nighter... Jheez
@JediBunny
@JediBunny 6 жыл бұрын
Favourite video from you so far, excellent job, thank you for creating and sharing!
@williamshirk6028
@williamshirk6028 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for following through and making the video.
@mandoreviews7245
@mandoreviews7245 6 жыл бұрын
Empire building challenge Guidelines 1. You are the head of this Empire. 2. Choose your capital. 3. Chose one Supreme Commander for your military. 4. You have five fleets in your Navy chose one character from legends or cannon as your Commander for each fleet and chose two Lieutenants for them. 5. Your Navy must consist of one ship for each class those classes being a Battleship, Frigate, Destroyer, Corvette, Carrier/Command ship, Troop Transport and a Gunship any ship from legends or cannon can be used your only limitation is you can’t pass the New Republic Era. 6. Your Star Fighter Core must be made up of a Regular Star Fighter, Interceptor, Multirole Star Fighter, Bomber, and a Recon fighter. Same rules as guideline number five. 7. Pick five special forces units any group goes. 8. Pick one special Capital ship for you and your Supreme Commander. 9. Pick one Force Sensitive group as your Secret Service. 10. NO SUPER WEAPONS 11. Ground Commanders and ground armies are optional.
@youngsmitty347
@youngsmitty347 6 жыл бұрын
Javier Pullido Is there a specific era we have to focus on?
@eclipseslayer98
@eclipseslayer98 6 жыл бұрын
It's probably from all of Fiction/Non-Fiction
@redeye4516
@redeye4516 6 жыл бұрын
This should cover it for my response. warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Imperium_of_Man
@mandoreviews7245
@mandoreviews7245 6 жыл бұрын
Logan Smith read the guide lines
@mandoreviews7245
@mandoreviews7245 6 жыл бұрын
Redeye nope Star Wars no Warhammer
@cameronsharp9218
@cameronsharp9218 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe talk about early versions of the Phantom Menace or the entire prequel trilogy as a whole.
@charlescilek2281
@charlescilek2281 6 жыл бұрын
The formics home fleet (ender's game) vs. the CIS fleet at the battle of Coruscant (legends material)
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 6 жыл бұрын
Charles Cilek nice.
@goosebutter8136
@goosebutter8136 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, keep the backstories comming.
@warmpond
@warmpond 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a corrupt politician having subtle hints that suggest he is force sensitive. Adds a lot more mystique.
@ChungusTheLarge
@ChungusTheLarge 6 жыл бұрын
Intro song is Resonance by Home, you should really credit the artists m8
@thomasevans-saine6121
@thomasevans-saine6121 6 жыл бұрын
^this also so people don't have to ask/search comments for it.
@jodyb1095
@jodyb1095 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know what the outro song is?
@wyattbottorff2473
@wyattbottorff2473 3 жыл бұрын
Hes gotten much better about that since then
@Toffee-Nug78
@Toffee-Nug78 4 жыл бұрын
Love these sorts of videos
@rhielm1
@rhielm1 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Excellent work.
@Phoenix1Leader
@Phoenix1Leader 5 жыл бұрын
An oh so humble request here: Eckhart, my father and I have always been GIANT fans of the Star Wars Rogue Squadron games and novel series. If it would be possible, do you think one of your next videos could deal with their history from Red Squadron to the end of the Galactic Civil War? And what of your thoughts if Rogue Squadron found itself “reborn” in the Disneyverse? What would you do to both pay homage to the original founders and remake it as a whole? Should they bring Wedge Antilles back as a mentor to Poe? Just asking as a big Star Wars fan here...
@ANobodyatall
@ANobodyatall Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of 'The Emperor'/Palpatine being a bit like the Emperor of Germany, particularly Wihelm II (perhaps a bit like the Western Emperor of the 30 Years War also); starts out with all the trappings of power, but is gradually, or not so gradually, replaced as the centre of power by the vast imperial military. This is essentially what happened to the last German Emperor Wilhelm II during the Great War. He started the war as the key decision maker, but by the end the show was largely run by the Army, in particular Generals Hindenburg and Ludendorff, and he became a puppet. Similarly, Western Emperor Ferdinand was eclipsed by his commander Wallenstein, although in that case the Emperor eventually got the upper hand and it ended badly for his commander! One another note, you could say that maybe the Jedi were a bit like the Janissaries of the Ottoman Empire. They were the sultan's elite soldiers, the Turks took them as children as 'tribute' and brainwashed them to fight for their new master. Sounds a bit Jedi? However, by the 19th century they were a 'block to progress' and were involved in court intrigue and the Sultan had them all killed.
@melfos1
@melfos1 6 жыл бұрын
these original backstories are great, please do more of them :)
@carrot404gmail
@carrot404gmail 6 жыл бұрын
beautiful. I don't normally comment on these Star Wars videos on KZfaq, but I thoroughly enjoyed the content here with some deeper roots than just some theory, and the visuals were a great fit for these experience too.
@commandZee
@commandZee 4 жыл бұрын
12/19 Addendum to this well researched video: Sheev Palpatine survives two massive explosions with a plan to rule the galaxy again in the body of his cute granddaughter and her cute open shoulder tops 🤣🤣🤣 Happy New Year Everyone!!!
@auto--
@auto-- 4 жыл бұрын
Creamy sheev just wants to be a young girl
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 6 жыл бұрын
I want to know how big the Republic fleet (Clone Wars) was
@bgotticataldo7994
@bgotticataldo7994 6 жыл бұрын
Clash Gamer a few 1,000,000 started out and grew over time.
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 6 жыл бұрын
BGOTTI CATALDO I mean the Fleet like how many Venators and light cruisers did they have? How many Star Fighters? That is what I meant
@bgotticataldo7994
@bgotticataldo7994 6 жыл бұрын
Clash Gamer good one I don't think they ever say. But after Palpatine takes over the Galactic Senate he has full resources of those planets and there ships so idk if say a few 1000 ships and a few 1'000,000 storm strupers after his Empire fell what was left went into hiding eventually formed a new order under leader smoke.
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 6 жыл бұрын
BGOTTI CATALDO The Clone Army had about 6 million clones and if I would guess the numbers of their Venators I would guess maybe 1000 but the Empire on the other hand almost had unlimited resources they had about 25000 star destroyers and trillions of stormtroopers
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 6 жыл бұрын
BGOTTI CATALDO That is a good guess I am not sure of the size of the fleet of the first order but I am not sure that they had 1000 cause they have really powerful cruisers 3 first order Star Destroyers had almost as much fire power as the imperial executor class super star destroyer
@mikem4162
@mikem4162 6 жыл бұрын
great video and content, glad you decided to do it. I hope you do one of the different versions of the original star wars that would be cool.
@chefexcellence322
@chefexcellence322 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you made this video, I wouldn't have known this information otherwise.
@TenchiJeff
@TenchiJeff 4 жыл бұрын
Back when I was a kid, I found the Emperor to be an awesome character. A tiny old man that had total control over Darth Vader! He didn't even have a lightsaber! Then I saw the third prequel movie and was disappointed to see that he was weaker than I thought.
@HawkTheRed
@HawkTheRed 6 жыл бұрын
Halo Valiant Class SuperHeavy Cruiser vs Star Wars MC-75 Cruiser
@TheCsel
@TheCsel 6 жыл бұрын
I remember reading the novel form of A New Hope, I always pictured the Emperor remaining behind the scenes. The military leaders thought they had taken control and the Emperor was mainly a figure head, when in reality the Emperor was a Sith Lord, far from helpless. He was the one actually controlling the controllers, and any failures or disasters he could blame on the leaders, preserving his good image to the commonfolk. Additionally, anyone trying to stop the Empire would not see him as the true source of power, so he is less of a target.
@patrickmchale1950
@patrickmchale1950 5 жыл бұрын
Cool videos fill with information & explained stuff.
@thesinfultictac5704
@thesinfultictac5704 4 жыл бұрын
"he was an metaphor for Nixon" *Looks at Watchmen* "Uh, he wasn't wrong"
@nicholasfitzhugh2557
@nicholasfitzhugh2557 4 жыл бұрын
How is watchmens depiction of Nixon even close to sheev?
@mikevasquez1103
@mikevasquez1103 6 жыл бұрын
the original story of Palpatine would have made an effective propaganda piece for the uninformed masses.
@ltb1345
@ltb1345 6 жыл бұрын
The "Jedi assassination attempt" worked too.
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 5 жыл бұрын
It was quite smart how Palps blamed the Jedi for the war as a whole. Having an ex-Jedi lead the separatists was a stroke of genius.
@StormWolfJachinDue
@StormWolfJachinDue 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you did. It's interesting to see how his role evolved.
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 5 жыл бұрын
ty for the video
@garrettreichle4302
@garrettreichle4302 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like the fall of rome., Which you stated
@Comet5551
@Comet5551 6 жыл бұрын
All Terrain Anti-Aircraft (AT-AA) vs Type-52 Anti-Aircraft Artillery (AA Wraith)
@darkadamant6698
@darkadamant6698 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did this cause I have never heard of pablo haldago
@stankovicmatija6275
@stankovicmatija6275 4 жыл бұрын
you do you Eckhart.... we like your vids
@kennethkates3140
@kennethkates3140 6 жыл бұрын
Lore on Imperial Bioweapons, or all bioweapons in Star Wars
@theteacher4444
@theteacher4444 6 жыл бұрын
Please do Galactic Empire Vs. Combine Empire (Universal Union)
@zmaxx123321
@zmaxx123321 6 жыл бұрын
That could be hard, the problem is that we actually don't know how actually big the combine empire is, they also have conquered multiple worlds across many universes, and is implied that those do actually have different physics laws, and if you have seen the epistle 3 thing, they also have atleast a dyson sphere, but they do lack they ability to go to one part of the universe to the other... so they probably lack hyperspace, but if they manage to get a single ship with a hyperspace drive...
@theteacher4444
@theteacher4444 6 жыл бұрын
TheBlackSunKing When I say combine, I mean from what we see in the half life series.
@zmaxx123321
@zmaxx123321 6 жыл бұрын
Well, for what we see in the half life series is like trying to put an outpost against an entire galaxy, the galactic empire would win in that situation... but if you put the entire universal union (with what we see and what we can only speculate) against the galactic empire, it could go either way...
@seasonsfearingthereaper5290
@seasonsfearingthereaper5290 6 жыл бұрын
Really good!
@seandineen999
@seandineen999 6 жыл бұрын
Brillant. You really make it relevant to our world
@bdavis24fan
@bdavis24fan 6 жыл бұрын
4:56 hmmmm lavish gold robes you say? That reminds me of someone. Some guy named snope or something. Probably isn't that important. Lol
@TheEpicArcher3229
@TheEpicArcher3229 6 жыл бұрын
Lore video on the second galactic civil war between corellia and the galactic alliance
@daveagar5594
@daveagar5594 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad you made it too.
@Drigoon12
@Drigoon12 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ecks, as somebody who doesn't use Twitter much or even social media I find your videos invaluable. You do a great job synthesising the facts in such a way that I can get it without having to attempt Twitter and you provide such great insights that I sometimes miss. Another great video and I look forward to many more.
@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder 6 жыл бұрын
+Tilyr Gannon glad you enjoyed!
@Drigoon12
@Drigoon12 6 жыл бұрын
Always do!
@GoldenJackalTutorial
@GoldenJackalTutorial 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man, where do you get your background video music from?
@Nathan-tz5fr
@Nathan-tz5fr 6 жыл бұрын
The Coruscant like planet would've been superior to the Death Star II, in my opinion.
@DrewPicklesTheDark
@DrewPicklesTheDark 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but how would you blow it up?
@Nathan-tz5fr
@Nathan-tz5fr 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrewPicklesTheDark Why does it have to blow up? The Rebels capture the planet and Vader kills the Emperor. War won.
@chengzhou8711
@chengzhou8711 5 жыл бұрын
Good video
@shiitcockk3547
@shiitcockk3547 6 жыл бұрын
This is a video I’ve wanted to see
@iambasegod8200
@iambasegod8200 6 жыл бұрын
Halo Reach Guta vs Rancor
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 6 жыл бұрын
I am Basegod lol
@skaboodlydoodle
@skaboodlydoodle 6 жыл бұрын
People who don't like Star Wars being political. It was always political. THE FIRST SCENE IN THE FIRST MOVIE is political.
@HappySqrl
@HappySqrl 6 жыл бұрын
Fletcher .K I don't think that the problem was that there were political messages in The Last Jedi; the problem was that there were unnecessary heavy handed political messages that were poorly integrated into the story.
@AndRiseUp
@AndRiseUp 6 жыл бұрын
Highlandus there's no difference. Lucas was super clear about the Empire's roots in Nixonian America, and the latter two prequels are a couple of the most overt reactions to the Bush era to come out of mid-2000's movies (and especially blockbusters). In fact, aside from the class stuff on Canto Bight (which is great by the way) I'd venture to say VII AND VIII were the least political Star Wars movies in decades.
@Smooth0vibrations
@Smooth0vibrations 6 жыл бұрын
@AndRiseUp least political /=/ good movies
@AndRiseUp
@AndRiseUp 6 жыл бұрын
SethxGeekdom1namek01yardrat true, but I still think The Last Jedi is the best since Empire
@Smooth0vibrations
@Smooth0vibrations 6 жыл бұрын
I genuinely enjoy Phantom Menace more than the Last Jedi. I watched The Last Jedi once and never want to see it again where as I saw Phantom Menace in theaters and at least once every few years since release. Because it has one of the best original Star Wars scores (Duel of Fates) coupled with the best lightsaber duel of the series. Last Jedi had none, Luke shows up with a lightsaber as a hologram than dies of exhaustion....
@InterestingLurker
@InterestingLurker 6 жыл бұрын
Nice beat in the background.
@jacksonsmith5380
@jacksonsmith5380 4 жыл бұрын
Love the music when the video breaks down like at 4:30
@darthvader4594
@darthvader4594 6 жыл бұрын
Emperor sidious vs infested kerrigan(plz support this)
@guilty_mulburry5903
@guilty_mulburry5903 6 жыл бұрын
darth vader he'll ignore it but fair fucks for trying +1 like
@kennethkates3140
@kennethkates3140 6 жыл бұрын
I'll support anything that might ad StarCraft to the list of Versus content
@justnoob8141
@justnoob8141 6 жыл бұрын
As Pooped By Anakin Skywalker Sarrah Kerrigan
@thegod3157
@thegod3157 6 жыл бұрын
Plz do a Reaper invasion of a United Halo Galaxy (Human-Covenant War) thanks:-)
@jacenstarheart6256
@jacenstarheart6256 6 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@Damin-Danger-Ledford
@Damin-Danger-Ledford 5 жыл бұрын
Eckhart, I love your videos. I am a pretty big star wars nerd myself. But it's been awhile since I stopped reading any more expanded universe stories. I just wanted to tell you that my favorite part of your videos is the outro with your doge. Reminds me of my buddy. No longer with us. So, it's good. The song you use for the intro/out ro is awesome. I was so stoked when I discovered your channel and heard that. I was curious if you also like the groups 'Neon Indian', 'The Horrors', or 'Toro y Moi'. Similar style of music, but Vaporwave is very unique. Thanks for your time. Have a good one.
@greaterhalo0659
@greaterhalo0659 6 жыл бұрын
Forerunner vs Imperium of man
@Mister_Kourkoutas
@Mister_Kourkoutas 6 жыл бұрын
ODST Alpha-417 gonna have to give it to the Forerunners.
@lordanubis5076
@lordanubis5076 6 жыл бұрын
The Flood (Halo) and the Replicators (SG-1) team up to attack Warhammer 40k Galaxy.(For this match we assume that the flood and the replicators have won the war in their galaxies)
@nyheemmckoy5331
@nyheemmckoy5331 6 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see the replicators from Star Gate Atlantis vs. The empire
@brandonhelllord2555
@brandonhelllord2555 6 жыл бұрын
The Flood is gonna destroy 40K, their space travel when they get to keymind stage is basically gonna win it for them. The only faction that can't get rid of is Chaos, like over 90 percent of Necrons are still sleep. To get into the webway all they need is own Eldar who knows, and that Eldar can just be dead to and it would work. And the Tyranids are to slow to anything.
@HarryPottard
@HarryPottard 6 жыл бұрын
The flood by themselves Would absolutly destroy The 40k universe. No chance for The 40k Milkyway
@melonboi927
@melonboi927 6 жыл бұрын
Lord Anubis the flood by themselves would pose a serious threat to the 40K Galaxy especially when it's not United, given the fact that the 40K Galaxy is large and the main power house the Imperium of man has a very slow reaction time by the time they react it would be too late most likely the only race that could really put up a good fight is the necrons
@brandonhelllord2555
@brandonhelllord2555 6 жыл бұрын
Not only that but it's end game flood to. Which means Keyminds who has far greater psychic power than anybody in the 40k galaxy besides the Emperor, perhaps Logar, Magnus, some phoenix lords, Ahriman, Dante, some Farseers, Some random alpha psychics and Eldrad will be everywhere. I missed a few others but it would be like 25 super strong psychics with one great one aka the emperor vs 100,000 super strong psychics aka around how many key minds it would be. And that's even if the 40k team is even united. Hell, the Gravemind with its psychic abilities was able to talk Chief with zero problems across the entire Galaxy in Halo 3. and that Gravemind is nothing to a Keymind.
@behaigo
@behaigo 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched this at the beginning of 2021. Surprisingly topical, especially at the end.
@Giblet12
@Giblet12 4 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how George basically had the rough draft for the prequels written decades before their release
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 6 жыл бұрын
1-The System alliance (Mass Effect) vs the 12th Colonies before the Cylon war (Battle Star Galactica). 2-A Borg cube (Star Trek) with a lot of ZPMs (I don't know, 100k?) (Star Gate) vs EVERYTHING. 3-The cybermen vs the Borg. 4-The Federation fleet from Star Trek DS9: Sacrifice of the Angels vs the Imperial fleet at the battle of Endor or the CIS fleet at Coruscant. You choose if incorporating the Klingon reinforcements. www.trekbbs.com/threads/klingon-ships-in-sacrifice-of-angels-numbers.192646/ memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Operation_Return. 5-A Tyranids/Zerg/Flood hybrid at their full strength vs the United Halo, W40k and Starcraft universes. 6-Wraith (Stargate Atlantis) vs Empire (Star Wars) You can both do Galactic versus and Ship versus. 7-Good vs Bad (first suggested by CT-3121 "Caboose"): White corner: Systems Alliance (Mass Effect), United Federation of Planets (Star Trek), post-GCW2 Galactic Alliance (Star Wars), 12 Colonies VS Black Corner: Sith Empire (SWTOR), Klingon Empire, CIS, Cylons 8-The Doctor, the temporal agent Daniels and Magnus need to stop a Dalek invasion force from invading the 40k Galaxy. They are on board of an Hades-class cruiser that can be modified by both the Doctor and by Daniels. 9-(Suggested by Thad) the Geth vs the Cylons.
@zinki120
@zinki120 6 жыл бұрын
Sergente A , that's one massive fleet.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 6 жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt starfury from Babylon 5 vs the sabre from Halo reach. 14th attempt.
@CloneCaptainMaxCC-
@CloneCaptainMaxCC- 5 жыл бұрын
5:57 Revenge of the Jedi, Sounds Like Some Cool Ass Shit.
@evancrum6811
@evancrum6811 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool and interesting.
@kennethkates3140
@kennethkates3140 6 жыл бұрын
Zerg, from StarCraft, invasion of Reach, from Halo
@kennethkates3140
@kennethkates3140 6 жыл бұрын
Top 5 Imperial commanders from canon
@perfectcell5613
@perfectcell5613 5 жыл бұрын
*OFFICIAL* L2 ENGLISH
@KhemistryIBMOR
@KhemistryIBMOR 6 жыл бұрын
Good job.
@D50Music
@D50Music 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t know this unless it were for you, I’m sure you’d have viewers that would appreciate it being that it’s you telling us about it even if we had seen it before, a different perspective teaches sometimes 👌🏼
@OmegaGamer414
@OmegaGamer414 6 жыл бұрын
Revans Sith Empire vs Galactic Empire
@sirpepeofhousekek6741
@sirpepeofhousekek6741 6 жыл бұрын
Galactic Empire would win. The Starforge is an unlimited resource for vehicles and weapons, but Revan's Empire simply does not have the manpower, not to mention the Death Stars.
@00yiggdrasill00
@00yiggdrasill00 6 жыл бұрын
Kyle Lambert im not so sure manpower would matter, i remember the starforge spitting out droids and we have seen droid armies man ships and vehicles. this coupled with revens tactical and strategic genius would mean the empire would be in for a hell of a fight.
@00yiggdrasill00
@00yiggdrasill00 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiffygonzales5160 i do agree vader would win that fight...assuming they can find the star forge, but im not so convinced on the empire having much of a tech edge given these ships are ancient rakatan and the modern galaxy still struggles to do what they did. I do however think you are underestimating how much material the forge put out. It was enough to challenge a militarized republic and jedi order before the degradation that palps used set it.
@00yiggdrasill00
@00yiggdrasill00 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiffygonzales5160 ok im sold. While i think very little of tarkin, zjinj and palps abilities as military leaders i see thrawn as a match to reven. Him leading the vast empire fleets would likely be enough.
@kennethkates3140
@kennethkates3140 6 жыл бұрын
Harrower Dreadnaught vs Venator Star Destroyer
@darkwolf4434
@darkwolf4434 6 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Kates The Venator has better technology
@tellemstevedave5559
@tellemstevedave5559 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did this vid. I don't think people should be deterred from covering a topic because one or two people already have. I have no idea who your referring to
@AF-tv6uf
@AF-tv6uf 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, why would you ever consider NOT making a video? They're all so dang good and well thought out.
@arctroopernull8733
@arctroopernull8733 6 жыл бұрын
Could the USMC raid the Jedi temple like the 501st did and win?
@torresmat10
@torresmat10 6 жыл бұрын
CC-2224 Commander Cody ye bc they have bullets not blasters, which lightsabers wouldnt deflect back to the marine, only vaporize it. And traditional guns have a higher rate of fire than the 501st rifles, meaning less reaction time for a Jedi to counter the bullets. This also means the Jedi would have to take the offensive to kill a marine.
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 6 жыл бұрын
Idk man, some blasters fire pretyy fast
@commenterofreason3478
@commenterofreason3478 5 жыл бұрын
Ironic, Star Wars is about power not being taken but given to evil doers Then George Lucas gives the rights to Star Wars to Kathleen Kennedy
@BarneyxStinson98
@BarneyxStinson98 6 жыл бұрын
The upbringing of Palpatine in the Darth Plagueis book is my absolute favorite
@alphasierrazulu
@alphasierrazulu 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love the mentioned drafts video
@RevTn
@RevTn 6 жыл бұрын
The parallels with America are strong in this one. Fight back, we must.
@RevTn
@RevTn 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@captain_swaggin4065
@captain_swaggin4065 6 жыл бұрын
Buster Call he won through the electoral college, not the popular vote
@TheCsel
@TheCsel 6 жыл бұрын
more parallels with the Fall of the Roman Republic. I don't like Trump, but I roll my eyes at all the melodrama about him being the death of democracy. Just as I rolled my eyes at the people convinced Obama would somehow declare himself president for a third term and take our guns.
@assemblyrequired7342
@assemblyrequired7342 5 жыл бұрын
@Mike the guy While the term Constitutional Republic is not inaccurate a description to apply to the United States, the term "Representational Democracy" also an accurate description. And until Trump wins the popular vote, neither he nor you get to decide what is best for us because you say so, or "get over it", as you succinctly put it. And considering that there are issues that are important to me that Donald doesn't give a shit about, I have no intention whatsoever of "getting over it".
@perfectcell5613
@perfectcell5613 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheCsel *emperor Obama* he 2 as never legally President
@kennethkates3140
@kennethkates3140 6 жыл бұрын
Behemoth Battlecruiser vs Venator Star Destroyer
@BladeCrossEXE
@BladeCrossEXE Жыл бұрын
Him being just a flimsy figure head controlled by others sounds a lot like Chancellor Valorum.
@SportingRedwood
@SportingRedwood 3 жыл бұрын
“The dangers of a democracy decaying into a dictatorship.” Hm, topical
@Pantherblack
@Pantherblack 4 жыл бұрын
~gasp~ You don't mean to say... Star wars is *political???*
@BlargeMan
@BlargeMan 6 жыл бұрын
Nixon wasn't a fascist nor did he have fascistic ideals like the Empire did...so where was Lucas getting that?
@quqbalam5089
@quqbalam5089 6 жыл бұрын
Nixon supported fascists in the Third World, ignored Congress, launched his authoritarian War on Drugs, and his bombing of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia is genocidal to a point it would make Hitler blush. Guy was definitely fascistic.
@andrewmaddox9786
@andrewmaddox9786 6 жыл бұрын
Quq Balam you may want to walk it back there dude. Nixon was not worse than Hitler. Nixon’s body count in terms of bombings in Vietnam isn’t even a fraction of Hitler’s body count. It’s just absurd to think otherwise. And I can assure you that the US was in no danger of becoming a fascist nation. The greatest expansion of federal power in US history occurred under FDR after he passed the New Deal (which was unconstitutional) and placed Japanese Americans in interment camps. I’d argue that democrat presidents from FDR all the way until Reagan were responsible for expanding the government’s power. This period of time was called Post War Liberalism. FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ, Eisenhower, Ford, Nixon, and Carter all expanded entitlements, bureaucracy, and the size of the federal government. LBJ declared a war on poverty, spent over 20 trillion to fight it and very few people were actually lifted out of poverty. It wasn’t until Reagan when America started to deregulate and begin an effort to remove government from people’s lives.
@perfectcell5613
@perfectcell5613 5 жыл бұрын
Hitler rome and England anyone who thinks its based off Hitler is a libtard
@devinreed5725
@devinreed5725 4 жыл бұрын
Yea. Good work
@jaythekid4728
@jaythekid4728 6 жыл бұрын
I love seeing all the Star Wars Lore masters use Vapor Wave music.
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