Class 504's : The End of the Line

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John C. Earwicker

John C. Earwicker

9 жыл бұрын

The last workings of the Class 504 (Manchester Bury) units in service and in preservation. Will we ever be able to ride on a 504 in the future???

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@adelestevens
@adelestevens 5 жыл бұрын
Last day at Besses booking office I was there at 5:30am and finished at 6:00pm. I would've stayed until the last train but it was too sad a day, so I went home to the family , besides I had to be there the next day too. The day after at besses the line manager and cashier came about 9am and after a couple of the scrap line trains had passed any remaining money was collected along with the safe keys and portis ticket machine , 3rd rail shorting bar...and even the kettle! Booking office emptied of all BR property (and a few personal items) the keys were handed to the line manager who locked the door and after a handshake and a "good luck with your new job"(I became a signaller) we all just trooped down to Bury old road...and... that was it.
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, the railway can be a ruthless and heartless environment...you still a bobby?
@theovanstaden5766
@theovanstaden5766 Жыл бұрын
Amazing @Adelle, yes always sad to move away from something You like, i used to work for south african railways in the 1980,s, lol i stil miss those days!
@GeoffLord1
@GeoffLord1 4 ай бұрын
I was an Apprentice Electrical Engineer Fitter at the Bury MPD when the 504 stock was first introduced and I worked on them for 3 years. They were a vast improvement on the original Electric trains from 1918 which were being used when I first started my Apprenticeship. The electronics were miniature compared to the old stock but much easier to work on and fault find. Many happy memories of working on them and I wish I had a quid for every brake shoe I changed on them!
@toddhunter5257
@toddhunter5257 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see something that isn't metrolink or pacer based. I would love to have taken a ride on one of these 504s.
@johnhealy8513
@johnhealy8513 5 жыл бұрын
Fabulous video capturing an immaculate Class 25 sandwiched in between two class 504s.
@amadeusbond267
@amadeusbond267 5 жыл бұрын
These look better than the rubbishy trams we have nowadays!
@stephenduncan3605
@stephenduncan3605 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like the seats on the Metrolink Trams, they are the most uncomfortable seats ever.
@toddhunter5257
@toddhunter5257 4 жыл бұрын
I have lived in Manchester nearly 20 years and knew the Bury line used to be ex heavy rail, but had no idea it was 3rd rail. Amazing video! Thanks for sharing. 😁😁😁👍👍👍
@mcfcste99
@mcfcste99 Жыл бұрын
I remember jumping on these a lot til the metro link came in.
@andybolton7176
@andybolton7176 6 жыл бұрын
Wow great post. Loved these units, you used to bounce on the lively seat springing and quick was they. Don't think the teams are faster now!. Served part of my apprenticeship at Bury car shop, happy days. Thanks for the memories.
@brucecohen3001
@brucecohen3001 2 жыл бұрын
A class 504 driving trailer was sent to London as a replacement for a damaged class 302 driving trailer. I think it was in the 1970s.
@colinvespa4709
@colinvespa4709 4 жыл бұрын
Rode that train in East Lancashire Railway, I think that might be me at 11.17, its nearly 28+ years ago, I would like to travel back in time.
@grahampearson5670
@grahampearson5670 3 жыл бұрын
Class 504 electric multiple unit trains served the Manchester Victoria to Bury line well and the conversion to Tram operation led to the retirement of the remaining sets.
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the sparks coming from the underside of the units
@verybiggreensteameng
@verybiggreensteameng 7 жыл бұрын
I used to ride the class 504s to Manchester every week, I lived right next to the line on 15 willow road , And grew up in the Area .Every week i would ride into Manchester to buy a science fiction book with my spending money, About 1 pound, that my dad gave me ,He used to work at Prestwich hospital, which has also gone now.
@jayzo
@jayzo 9 жыл бұрын
Seems like they were going straight from the a heavy rail line to the metrolink line. The masts are already in for the catenaries here.
@tweetypie25
@tweetypie25 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous video John, very sad day, loved these units every one of them.
@JohnGrayOnline
@JohnGrayOnline 4 жыл бұрын
When I was young I used to travel from Bury to school in Salford on the original 5-car (I think) Lancashire & Yorkshire electric stock -- they were drab and musty, but open plan (and with reversible seats) and a huge platform at the door that you could open when the train was still moving so we could leg it to Manchester Cathedral where the bus for the next leg of our journey began. I remember the 504s being introduced in their smart green livery, about 1958 was it? I'd love to see some moving images of that old stock -- can anyone help?
@GarethT902
@GarethT902 3 жыл бұрын
Your very much correct the L&Y stock operated until the 1950s when they were replaced by the 504 sets. Andrew Coward has a book detailing there history.
@EM-yk1dw
@EM-yk1dw 6 жыл бұрын
Never seen an EMU pull away so quickly as these sets did.
@MegaCullie
@MegaCullie 9 жыл бұрын
very nice blast from the pass john and a joy to see cheers......kev
@SuperANNOYANCE
@SuperANNOYANCE 8 жыл бұрын
Ding Ding! Wish I could have been about when these were! :( probably far better ride than Metrolink!
@julianl6369
@julianl6369 7 жыл бұрын
They were horrendous to travel in to be honest. When crossing the points after Woodlands road near to Queens road for example, I sometimes thought they would jump off the track. The ride was bouncy to say the least, and they were noisy and dirty. Rose coloured spectacles come to mind.
@acesfn7316
@acesfn7316 6 жыл бұрын
I remember these trains. The were sometimes jumpy but they had far better seats
@olikirrage6851
@olikirrage6851 5 жыл бұрын
If you would like to ride one they have one at the east Lancashire railway in bury however it has had to be stripped down for aspestos
@chennygrapes
@chennygrapes 5 жыл бұрын
As a kid they were super bouncy to ride on 😎 loved them and i still miss them trains
@enigmagamer112
@enigmagamer112 3 жыл бұрын
and less than a year later the metrolink would start from where the 504's left off
@lner3777
@lner3777 9 жыл бұрын
They looked very grotty in the final years
@RFSA180
@RFSA180 8 жыл бұрын
brilliant this. proper memories
@nigelkthomas9501
@nigelkthomas9501 7 жыл бұрын
I think the guy at the end of the platform in the blue jumper and light grey trackies at 9:55 is me! I remember being there when two 504s were work with a class 25 between them. Was this the only occasion?
@justinobrien3593
@justinobrien3593 2 жыл бұрын
They're propper trains the class 304's and was far better than this modern italian cheap looking tin-can shit of what now dominate the Manchester Victoria to Bury line!!! I love the sound of the electric motors on the class 304s 😎
@thepofmeister9087
@thepofmeister9087 9 жыл бұрын
Last shot - so sad...
@peterbryant3030
@peterbryant3030 8 жыл бұрын
At about 8:45 you can see the poles for the electrification ready for the trams
@BritainsRailways
@BritainsRailways 7 жыл бұрын
Great Video, I have subscribed.
@tonyclegg582
@tonyclegg582 3 жыл бұрын
Great vids
@ryanjam07
@ryanjam07 8 жыл бұрын
We are currently restoring the sole surviving 504 unit at the East Lancs Railway in Bury. If you are interested in helping then please contact me
@johnnyboy3949
@johnnyboy3949 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Lambert how will that work since the units used third rail? Are you fitting Diesel generators? Or will they be loco hauled?
@acesfn7316
@acesfn7316 6 жыл бұрын
I thought they scrapped the lot
@MontyCantsin5
@MontyCantsin5 Жыл бұрын
Nope. Restoration is still ongoing.
@TheAxelay
@TheAxelay 6 жыл бұрын
It may of been the less pretty/glamours units but damn it!!!?!....
@tsangpogorge
@tsangpogorge 6 жыл бұрын
lots of pre Metrolink Bury line footage but yet to find anything for Altrincham.
@bowlerstuff9589
@bowlerstuff9589 5 жыл бұрын
everything else I think was new.but Altrincham being served by trains
@deathbyteacup
@deathbyteacup 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like some sort of signalling / track circuit issue at 6:10?
@braddooley7959
@braddooley7959 Жыл бұрын
They had sets like that but 3 car formation liverpool to crewe
@user-lh2rs9jp7s
@user-lh2rs9jp7s 6 ай бұрын
Those seem to arc a lot more than top contact 3rd rail
@DC4260Productions
@DC4260Productions 9 жыл бұрын
1:49 What did that bloke say?
@EnterprisingRailFilms
@EnterprisingRailFilms 9 жыл бұрын
+London Underground 1973stock ''See you later tonight''
@DC4260Productions
@DC4260Productions 9 жыл бұрын
8:00 Why did the Class 504's not have gangways between the individual carriages?
@None-zc5vg
@None-zc5vg 4 жыл бұрын
They were introduced in 1959 on a fairly short route at a time when most stations were still manned and when stations had toilet facilities: hence these units had no toilets and didn't need gangways. By 1991, there were only toilets at termini or larger stations, but the trams replacing the "504s" still had no toilets. Some of the similar modernised A.C.-powered "305" units sent up to the area from London and used on longer routes than the Bury line still had no toilets, despite having gangways fitted.
@roberthill6216
@roberthill6216 3 жыл бұрын
Suburban stock didn't tend to have gangways. Whether it be loco hauled dmu or emu. They were only meant for short commuter journeys.
@SteamLance
@SteamLance 4 жыл бұрын
Did drivers ever actually use the horns on EMUs, or weren't they fitted with any?
@astolfo523
@astolfo523 Жыл бұрын
15:30
@mickfromleitrim
@mickfromleitrim 9 жыл бұрын
Is all that arcing at 6.00 normal? Is it ok for it to do that? I got "arc eye" from welding back in the 80's, was well painfull, just wondering is all.
@Martindyna
@Martindyna 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine it is normal for these units although more modern designs hold the conductor shoe more firmly on the 3rd rail, e.g. the original Eurostar power car conductor shoes rarely sparked in dry weather. Of course in the rain and especially in icy conditions a great spark show usually results.
@N00N01
@N00N01 2 жыл бұрын
British rail in 1991 Fine additions for the secondhand market of ireland Not really, but could you _IMAGINE_
@john-of-the-north
@john-of-the-north 6 жыл бұрын
So if there's only one set preserved but we see here 2 sets being delivered to ELR - the elephant in the room question is.... what happened to the second set?
@stephenduncan3605
@stephenduncan3605 6 жыл бұрын
John of the North I heard the other one was scrapped late in 1994
@None-zc5vg
@None-zc5vg 4 жыл бұрын
I believe vandalism prompted the preservationists to scrap one unit and retain some parts for use as spares, etc..
@GarethT902
@GarethT902 2 жыл бұрын
The East lancs only expected one set but the other was bought reportedly as a joke for £504. Unfortunately there was not much room for storage back then. It was decided to put it up for sale but even when offered for free there were no offers. So after any useable parts had been removed it was sent for scrap.
@vincitveritas3872
@vincitveritas3872 4 жыл бұрын
504s were 3rd rail?
@doorhanger9317
@doorhanger9317 3 жыл бұрын
not just any third rail, side contact at high-voltage 1.2kV, a unique system apparently only shared by the Hamburg S-Bahn. Odd really, because it seems to have many advantages.
@vincitveritas3872
@vincitveritas3872 3 жыл бұрын
@@doorhanger9317 thanks. 👍
@iron1349
@iron1349 7 жыл бұрын
So that is the Jaffa livery.
@jsp7202
@jsp7202 7 жыл бұрын
No, the Jaffa livery was applied to some Southern Region units. The livery on the 504 was the Greater Manchester PTE livery.
@martinbitter4162
@martinbitter4162 7 жыл бұрын
Ferris Welker reminds me of the Strathclyde livery (?)
@stephenduncan3605
@stephenduncan3605 6 жыл бұрын
Martin Bitter they are similar but Greater Manchester features brown where in Strathclyde would be black!
@None-zc5vg
@None-zc5vg 4 жыл бұрын
@@martinbitter4162 Some Glasgow 3-car A.C. "303" units worked the Manchester area ca. 1984: they had no gangways or toilets and broke down a lot on my local line.
@johnchurch4705
@johnchurch4705 3 жыл бұрын
The Jaffa livery was also applied to the class 309 sets that went from Liverpool St ( London) to Clacton , Essex.
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