Changing to S5 II is probably a better option overall, to be honest.

@@John_Bull_ kit lens only. I can’t carry any extra around while travelling.

@@KarlRock What lenses do you use on your MFT system?

Thank you!

Thank you! I agree, any GX camera would be great.

I agree, too. Just in case Panasonic is reading ;)

Thank you!

My pleasure, thank you for watching!

Thank you!

Yeah I've held onto my m43 stuff waiting for pdaf

Looking forward to your full review the new AF and EIS really shows how far the M2 is from the M1. I like how they removed the annoying parts of the G9. 4K 120p me gusta! Sounds like battery life is improved too but not really anything else significantly. $1900?!??! I can't believe the nerve of Pani. I'll wait a year, buy the SII for a deal so I have the cage and batteries and lenses then when the G9M2 is reasonable under $1600, I'll buy.

@@spaceghostcqc2137 same, CC's video showing the PDAF and EIS, blows everything out of the water.

@@spaceghostcqc2137I’ve been holding onto my G7 waiting for this. It still does a superb job but PDAF means I can finally move past the only issue the G7 gave me: bad AF!

Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!

@@TheHybridShooter Hi, would you happen to have lens recommendations for the G9 for best results for Teams/Zoom meetings that could produce nice subject separation, or bokeh? Thank you.

Thank you! Yes, it is.

I was wondering this when I got the notification for the Lumix live stream event on KZfaq.

Thank you!

Thank you! Yeah, any GX camera would be great.

The rumours from Japan is that the GH7 (possibly november) and GH7S (Q1, 2024) will be out next.

@@GrenlandUnderVann Extremely unlikely.

@@TheHybridShooter the GH6 is dead like a brick so no surprise it needs an urgent replacement.

@@GrenlandUnderVann Well, considering the sales of the G9 II, it is unclear whether Panasonic needs another high-end M43 camera at all.

Difference is mostly in the lenses (both in size and price), more than in the body itself

@@axel4370 Only if you compare Panasonic/Olympus lenses with the same on full frame. But the advantage of the FF is that there are 3rd party vendors, like Sigma who produces very good lenses at the price of the original M43 ones. I switched to S5 a few years ago and would never go back to M43... P.S. in Australia, the G9II body priced at A$3200, while the S5II - $2800. :)

Unfortunately, I don't know yet, I have only had those lenses for short amount of time.

@@TheHybridShooter I hope you will make a comparison, I would like to know if it is worth switching to the latest version of the 12-35, 35-100 and 100-400 thank you very much

I don't know, I haven't had time to test 120p.

Yes! Owned a G9 a couple of years back. And honestly, the support and updates are really something to have in the equation when buying a camera. Just look at all the Sony owners and the RIP memes... (they almost act like some models don't exist anymore).

Going off how many youtube videos cover MFT cameras, specifically Lumix.. I can't see them going anywhere. I shoot an a7iii and a g100. The g100 is surprisingly good for being a tiny lil camera (that had horrible marketing) but since I've purchased so many lenses for my lumix, I'd like to get a proper camera to use with the lenses, and keep the g100 as my edc camera.

I have talked about that in the video.

I haven't noticed.

That will take some time.

@@TheHybridShooter i will wait for your review. i am confused between ZVE1 vs A7C mark 2. :-)

Thank you, I appreciate that!

XH2 is better for most photography except if you need super fast burst rates. G9ii is better for most types of videography.

You're welcome, thank you for watching!

@@TheHybridShooter i’d like to ask you is there a button lock like on my GH6.? I was constantly changing my shutter speed while videotaping until I discovered the button lock. Can I lock the buttons on the G9 mark two? The same way I did on the GH6

No, there is not.

Unfortunately, I don’t know.

I can't , I don't own a speedbooster anymore.

Yes, it is.

This is what the review unit came with.

@@TheHybridShooter ah I see. As always great review. Only review I cared about along with petapixel (jordan and chris).

How is $1900 affordable?!

In what world is 1900 affordable for M43?

​@@TheBlackSkimmeryes, not affordable at all, way too expensive.

​@@vermontmike9800exactly, I could see this priced at $750 to $800.

The price will lower by Black Friday. Keep your eyes peeled.

Thank you. We would be basically be buying a faster version of the S5 II X with better stabilization that works with M43 lenses, whilst sacrificing image quality in pretty much all categories. The price is higher than I expected, but there is not much that I can do about that. As I have said in the video, S5 II / S5 II x is a great proposition for those who don't like this set of features / compromises.

I have plenty of m4/3 lenses.

I don´t know, I wasn´t able to compare them.

I guess I can find your original G9 review and look for the table room photo! - I think I like the HHHR function to capture detailed landscape shots on my mountain hikes, I wonder if it can work for a portait subject that tries to sit still?@@TheHybridShooter

My pleasure! Unfortunately, I don't have either of those cameras, so I am not able to do that.

Thank you! G9 will not fit into S5 II cage, there are size differences.

@@TheHybridShooter Oh thanks for trying! You think is there any cage suitable of another camera (s1, or also other brands), or I need to search for an universal ones?

My pleasure! James Bond is Sony ambassador, so he definitely wouldn't use G9 II :)

@@TheHybridShooter Haha good point! 😁

I don’t know, I wasn’t able to compare them yet.

Yes, it can.

PDAF points can be added on the same sensor, different base ISO can also be used.

As far as I have noticed, only the CF Express slot.

@@TheHybridShooter and the flip-up screen, tally lamps, dedicated audio button, front recording button, flash sync port, better heat management via rear fan, additional custom modes, all video features available internally without SSD via CF Express and backwards compatibility with DMW-BLF19E batteries.

@@stevelitton He asked about prominent features. G9 II heat management won’t be worse than on GH6.

@@TheHybridShooter Of course it will, the new G9 mkii doesn't have active cooling like the new S Series cameras or the GH6. So it will be worse, that is just simple facts.

@stevelitton No, the facts aren’t that simple. G9 II uses very effective cooling system from S5 II. Despite that the S5 II has much larger sensor and produces much more heat, the fan is never used in real-wood situations. M43 will be a piece of cake for that system. Relying on active cooling with such a small sensor is one design failures of the GH6.

Thank you!

@earlfenwick what camera are you using? Can anyone suggest a hybrid camera that is light/small that can be use in filming my self for youtube talking heads?

​@@idgafaboutbsFujifilm XS20

I don't know, I haven't tested any other recent M43 cameras.

G9 II does not compete with full frame, it is mostly an option for people who have been using M43 for may years and want to upgrade.

1900 usd

Totally agree with you. I can’t see myself using MFT with the same body size of Full Frame and bigger than some as well. MFT should really focus on Compact size camera body and more travel friendly design.

It's the smaller and lighter lenses, not necessarily the bodies, that make micro 4/3 lighter overall. I'm perfectly satisfied with my Olympus omd em1, but to each his own.

I don't see a point when the bodies are so big imo. Its like an ugly mix.@@johnsmith-gs4qf

Agreed.

I understand, but for new school photographers, it is a waste of space, so I am very glad they got rid of top plate LCD in favor of better controls placement.

I am very glad that they did.

No. Noise at low ISO values count as well and the G9 II is a huge improvement over the G9 I in that regard.

I have mention 4K 60p, I haven't tested rolling shutter yet, S5 series doesn't have rolling shutter issues.

I don’t.

Manufactures have very unconventional standards when in comes to calling a sensor "new". IMX410 would have to be reinvented at least 5 times to comply with them.

It doesn't really matter.

That is not a replacement of separate stills and video.

What else would be needed to “qualify” as separate.

G9 II is mostly intended for those who don’t want to switch systems for whatever reason. Full frame is more perspective, so if you are willing to switch, it is a better long term option.

I think this is true for many users but not all. If you like to carry 70-200 focal range daily, or especially if you like more telephoto reach than that, then MFT makes a lot of sense. I don’t want to travel without that range and I don’t want to carry the full frame version of these lenses. If I get twice the photos cause of how easy the camera is to carry, I’m not concerned with a small drop in IQ. But if I didn’t shoot above 70mm then the advance mostly vanishes. But I do think that if you are thinking about noise or these minor differences in IQ when looking at a photo, you aren’t looking at a very interesting photo to begin with.

@@nolannatashaTV Various manufacturers are offering new FF lenses such as Sony 70-200mm F4 IOIS II that offer excellent size to performance ration to motivate people to move away from crop systems. I strongly disagree with your last sentence, so I think that they are worth carrying. I think that very small FF lenses will be one of the trends in 2024.

@@TheHybridShooter first of all I LOVE your channel and appreciate greatly your hard work and often rely on your opinions when buying a camera. I am not meaning to be argumentative, I just think it’s strange when people compare the price and suggest that if the price is the same there is no reason for MFT. Nevermind that the price of the lenses is still quite different in many cases. I think there are many advantages to MFT which doesn’t mean it has to be for everyone. There are many times when it makes no sense at all to shoot MFT, but way too much emphasis is placed on differences that are nowhere near as important as a person’s skill. Great photographers (far better than I) who know their equipment get unbelievable results from crop sensors and if I was travelling the world with a backpack I would way rather take a my MFT system to even the lightest offerings from Sony. That said, if I only shot primes, I would choose full frame every day of the week and enjoy the enhanced quality. It’s not that I don’t think these things matter, but I do think that technical IQ has virtually nothing to do with what makes a photo interesting or not, which is I guess what I mean. I am very happy to see the weight and size of full frame lenses come down and I do think that means the full frame is the right choice for many more people than five years ago. I love shooting full frame. But I feel a real physical difference shooting with my very light Sony equipment and my MFT equipment and it really has an impact on my enjoyment over the course of a day or trip. If I was shooting a wedding for a client I’d take full frame. If I went out doing street with one or two primes, I’d likely also take full frame. But if I’m travelling around the world I want 12-35 2.8, 35-100 2.8, 9mm Leica and 25mm Leica. All in a small shoulder bag. And usually throw in the 100-300 for days when it’s relevant. For someone that wants 18-600mm equivalent, no tripod needed, weather sealed, with no single lens costing more than $500 used…there is still an argument for MFT. We are very blessed to live with so much choice. Thanks again for your fine work that showcases the strengths and weaknesses of these cameras. It truly makes it easier for people to make the right decisions when spending so much cash on such an important tool.

​@@nolannatashaTV Thank you! The image equality is IMO a very important part of modern photography and I think that it is a shame when an interesting photography is degraded by sub-par image quality. The problem is that the market is shifting to high-end or nothing scenario and there just isn't enough people who appreciate low weight of M43 system. People are either willing to travel with FF equipment or they use smartphones, action cameras and that kind of gear. Lightweight FF cameras such as A7C and upcoming Panasonic equivalent with modern lenses will probably accelerate that transition even further.

Using S5 II body for G9 II is the possible choice. It is a superior design with better ergonomics and build. Streamlining both S and G series is the best thing that Panasonic could have done. Top plate LCD is just a waste of space for most users nowadays, I’m glad that it is gone and the mode dial is correctly positioned on the G9 II.

@@TheHybridShooter The top plate lcd is essential for sports photographers, especially if you are working with more than one camera, and anyone arguing against has either never had the pleasure of using one or just doesn’t use their camera professionally. It allows me to check the settings while on the move and before I put the viewfinder to my eye. About the ergonomics… It will always be a subjective thing. The G9 sat perfect in my hands. Biggest drawback, the only drawback, with the original G9 was the AF. Otherwise it was a the photographers choice.

@joakimtarnstrom4498 That is just your opinion. I have used G9 and other cameras with top plate LCD for years and as a "new school" shooter, I have never looked at it. Exposure information is visible in EVF or on display, so the top plate LCD is totally redundant for me and most photographers, who are used to modern DLSM cameras.

@@TheHybridShooter Unless your opinion is more valued than mine, it’s just your opinion.

@@joakimtarnstrom4498 Well, you wrote "anyone arguing against has either never had the pleasure of using one or just doesn’t use their camera professionally" as if it was a fact, which it absolutely isn't. That is why I have reminded you that it is just your opinion (factually wrong opinion).

Generally because of the speed and stabilization. I don't think that people will be choosing between S5 II and G9 II they either want FF or M43.

Because they have a whole bunch of Micro Four Thirds glass they’ve spent years investing in?

Yes, and I will definitely keep emphasizing the limitations of M43 system in my feature videos about M43 cameras. I don't think that that your 90% claims are accurate, the limitations are very obvious once you get used to FF output. Unfortunately, due the the lack of BSI design and dual native ISO, G9 II output can't compete with any FF or APS-C camera of current generation.

The price of the G9II is EXTREMELY disappointing.

@@NicJohnson Panasonic needs a clear pricing strategy for all their current products. The latest MTF is more expensive than their latest full frame!

I don't think this camera is trying to compete with budget APSC or entry level full frame cameras. It is a direct competitor to the OM1, XH2S and other fast shooting sports and wildlife hybrid cameras. It is priced below both of those cameras and does a lot of thing better than both of those camera. Stabilization is on par or better than the OM1 and miles ahead of the XH2S, video features are on par or better than the XH2S and way better than the OM1, AF is better than both, burst speed faster than any other camera at full resolution. Comparing this camera to entry level options doesn't make any sense. Only thing that this camera lags behind those entry level is DR and ISO performance. If you want the best image quality possible, MFT is not for you.

Don’t consider it a g9. It’s just their full frame cameras with a smaller sensor. It’s packed full of handy trinkets and doodads. It’s on the expensive side but it’s fairly reasonable with all the beat features.

@@Wildridefilms how about comparing G9II to GH5II, GH6 or S5II? Which one is entry level or budget camera?

That is a very specific individual requirement, most people won’t miss C4 at all. G9 II is fine for video first as well, generally better than GH6.

Wildlife@@TheHybridShooter

@@derJackistweg ?

I don't want to. I want usable images without extra steps and loss of detail.

The date on camera wasn’t set… obviously.

yes

sure

Yes lol

Are people really still using smartphones to take photos? Of course.

No, there will be no such update, those features would require much higher sensor read-out speed which the S5 II doesn't have. S5 II already has subject detection.

@@TheHybridShooter than I hope at least the subject detection like bird eye and cars etc comes over. We will see ☺️

No, it isn’t.

​@@TheHybridShooterIn a livestream from Lumix USA, they mentioned that they do use a BSI sensor

@@Wildridefilms They do, but not in G9 II.

@@TheHybridShooter They clarified in a lumix live that they do use a BSI design on the G9ii. Anyway, what tech they use doesn't matter to me as long as the output is good enough. In the G9ii review by Richard wong, he compared the ISO performance with the Canon R7 and XH2. The G9ii performed very similarly to the R7 and a little worse than the XH2. And dynamic range on them were very similar. So MFT is not much worse than APSC in terms of image quality, and considering all the other advantages of the system, it's absolutely a very versatile system.

@@Wildridefilms My very good sources say otherwise but unfortunately, I can't talk much about that. I am still very confident that it is not BSI sensor, much like in the GH6. Take a look at my X-H2 or X-H2S review, where I have shown ISO performance on the same scene. Unfortunately, the difference is very significant, more than 1 stop. Also, very few reviewers compensate for the difference in ISO scales when comparison ISO on different brands.

This is a camera for Panasonic M43 uses who want an upgrade within their system. Comparison with full frame is not relevant.

@@TheHybridShooter but comparison with the $ value is.

@@vermontmike9800 Not really, M43 users won’t switch systems for $200.

I won’t switch to full frame. Of all my 4 lenses there’s only a single one that isn’t a M43 lens. It’s an old sigma from the 80s or 90s with an adapter. I’m not gonna throw out 1500 bucks worth of lenses to switch to another more expensive camera and pay for many more expensive lenses. It just isn’t reasonable to pay that much when I have lenses that work just fine.