Panasonic S1 AF Firmware & V-Log Tests / Does It Now Beat Sony?

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Update on the Panasonic S1 with v1.2 firmware & DMW-SFU2 V-Log upgrade. Comparing autofocus performance, image quality, & video quality to the Sony a7 III.
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Table of Contents:
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0:00 - Intro
0:53 - What's New in Firmware v1.2
1:01 - IBIS Was Improved by 1/2 Stop
1:17 - Autofocus Tracking Improvements / Near & Far Shift
1:42 - Lenses Used for AF Comparison with Sony a7 III
2:02 - The S1 Autofocuses up to 25% Better Than Before
2:37 - Thoughts on the New Near Shift & Far Shift Functions
3:20 - Sony Still Wins with Hi+, but the S1 Is Quite Viable Now
4:08 - The S1 with Sigma MC-21 vs Sony a7 III with MC-11 Adapter
4:32 - Image Quality Comparison with Raw Photos & Same Lens
4:52 - White Balance & ISO Differences
5:44 - Video Section Starts / Testing the DMW-SFU2 V-Log Upgrade
5:54 - A Waveform Monitor Is Now Available
6:03 - The New MOV Container and 10-bit 4:2:2 Options
6:31 - Things That Aren't Improved: 4K60 & High Speed Video
6:51 - Differences between V-Log and V-LogL
7:13 - Panasonic S1 V-Log vs Sony a7 III S-Log2
7:38 - Manually Correcting V-Log and S-Log2
7:58 - How to Expose the S1's V-Log using ETTR
8:09 - Maximum Brightness Clipping Point of V-Log
8:58 - Tips for Maximizing Dynamic Range with V-Log vs S-Log2
9:36 - 10-bit vs 8-bit
12:00 - Color Accuracy Test
12:59 - Leeming LUT Applied Instantly Fixes Colors
13:16 - Practical Dynamic Range Test / Blue Skies & Shadows
15:23 - Video Autofocus Tests (S1 vs a7 III vs GH5)
16:13 - Background Pulsing Comparison During Video AF
16:34 - Results Recap & Conclusions
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@8b0i21 4 жыл бұрын

"Hi I'm Gerald Undone and all I want is the perfect camera", for the next intro. Thanks!

@FLYRTA 4 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@armacanqui 4 жыл бұрын

...with the Camera Conspiracies jingle :P

@Luxumbra69 4 жыл бұрын

those 8bit/10bit comparisons turned out just fine on youtube. appreciate showing that. coll stuff.

@raksh9 2 жыл бұрын

Yet another well organized and useful srt of tests. Super work. This helps a lot in my decisions.

@skymakai 4 жыл бұрын

So happy to see you do some practical 'sky' tests and compare these two great cameras!! Thank you!!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Haha. Cheers, Sky!

@mediamannaman 4 жыл бұрын

Always grateful to learn from your channel, especially when you discuss Panasonic products. Very helpful!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for saying so! Cheers!

@VIDEOGRAFIKO 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the detailed info. Thanks for helping me understand my S1 better.

@Noealz 4 жыл бұрын

this is actually more in depth than any videos ive seen anyone else do

@web 4 жыл бұрын

Noealz Photo Needs a radioactive lens though

@Noealz 4 жыл бұрын

@@web HAHA

@GermanViking 4 жыл бұрын

Thank for this helpful video Gerald! Regards from Honduras!

@gerrymarzilli 4 жыл бұрын

Best in the biz! Thank you brother!

@cristiantosi3396 3 жыл бұрын

Man you may not be the best youtube channel ever, but you have fo sure the best intro and the best outro EVER!!

@timlinssen 4 жыл бұрын

Epic level of content and depth. Hats off.

@EmileModesitt 4 жыл бұрын

Killing it with these in-depth videos my dude!!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😃

@markrhodes5474 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic technical video Gerald you made it easy to understand 10/10

@Aviciiz 4 жыл бұрын

15:55 gotta love the Color of the S1 and GH5 too!

@MrEchyballs 4 жыл бұрын

Been learning so much from you . thanks Gerald for sharing .

@pebmets 4 жыл бұрын

I love watching the technical detail in this video as well as your others. Even though I do not use Panasonic or Sony, the information is still useful and meaningful to me. This allows me to look at what I have and get an idea how it stacks up to others and what to look for. Time and time again, I get useful information even though what I shoot with may not be the subject of your review. This is how good your channel is. You can review a product not related to what someone uses, but the information can be applied to any similar product and allow a user to make intelligent choices or decisions on what they want to work with. Great job. Also, thank Julie for continuing to help make your channel successful. Thanks again.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very, very much, Phil. This is the highest praise I could ask for and means the absolute world to me. Cheers!

@dacostarik 4 жыл бұрын

Just discovered your videos. Great job with the information provided

@adrianvasian 4 жыл бұрын

I don t comment often, but i really should take the time to praise the work you do, this video, but also in general. You are simply the best when it comes to testing these correctly :) If i ever need something cleared up, it s definitely your channel i ll be looking at first!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, Adrian! Really appreciate that. Cheers!

@SteveMayedaTV 4 жыл бұрын

Great video again. I have an S1...had I not bought it in a store, I would have gotten from your link because man...your videos are so good. If I get that A7III I'll get one through your link if I buy a new one. You da man!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

That's very generous, Steve. Appreciate you. Thanks for the comment!

@SonNguyenOfficialchannel 4 жыл бұрын

i love you gerald :D the best test firmware so far still happy with a73, need more content for color grading sir thank you so much

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Appreciate the kind words and suggestion.

@Paul_anderson_creative 4 жыл бұрын

Superb analysis. Love the detail and effort. Thanks so much.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Paul. Appreciate it.

@ReelLightPictures 4 жыл бұрын

Man Gerald, the amount of time you must put into these videos is crazy! Definitely a full time job, with overtime! Thanks so much! I’m curious, if you haven’t actually timed it out, approximately how long would you say this entire video took to produce, pre/shooting/post production?

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Once I knew what I was doing, three full days. But there's always the hours before that that are required to outline, acquire gear, plan tests, etc. Cheers!

@ReelLightPictures 4 жыл бұрын

Well, it’s time well spent. And by the way, all that prep time, I would totally consider part of pre-production, even though you may be planning out multiple shoots simultaneously. Thanks again for the comprehensive breakdowns, much appreciated!

@JCANPetros 4 жыл бұрын

Great job, very comprehensive review.

@canucklehead28 4 жыл бұрын

As always... I found this video helpful. Great job.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Stephen! Appreciate it.

@hawaiirealmedia5610 4 жыл бұрын

Really well done! (as usual.)

@toxictabasco 4 жыл бұрын

Great comprehensive demonstration of 2 great cameras. Thank you.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank YOU! 😃

@andrewcampbell3184 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video as usual Gerald! Also, Richard Wong tested the v1.2 autofocus a week ago, at normal frame rate, the S1 does a bit better than previously. but when he switched to 60fps, it becomes so much better like another camera! He also tested the autofocus with many different type of movements too and repeatedly walking, running, pop in, hold still, slow movement. Check that one if anyone is interested in more in-depth autofocus test.

@TheBlacksheep1967 4 жыл бұрын

Superb way of testing as always Gerald. Thanks

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@visceralpsyche 4 жыл бұрын

Another great explainer with the info everyone needs in the real world, not marketing fluff. Love your work! 😀👍

@visceralpsyche 4 жыл бұрын

By the way, the minor colour inaccuracies you see are not the LUT, but rather the X-Rite inaccuracies compared to the CamAlign chart I use now! I'll send you a clip showing that in the next day or so.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Paul! Really appreciate that.

@ernolaunis 4 жыл бұрын

Could you pin this up Gerald? Quite important data here. After i saw Paul Leeming’s image of the charts.. (Facebook) ..enlightening experience! Thank you G.U and P.M for all the stuff what you’ve made!

@CallMeChato 4 жыл бұрын

Always nicely done.

@lypictures 4 жыл бұрын

Great review ! Good job thank you

@jaydivina533 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome comparison. I expected the S1 with the new firmware to do better in some of these tests but I still like what they did with it. Thanks Gerald.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers, Jay! Appreciate ya.

@kbasemuzik 4 жыл бұрын

Check out Richard wong autofocus test

@mrkumaran 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. Excellent comparisons. You’ve earned a subscriber

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Great! Happy to have a new subscriber. Thanks!

@stevestrasser6833 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Gerald! Thanks for your amazing reviews! I have the S1H and I am learning to shoot with V-LOG. I have purchased the Leeming LUTs and I will apply the ETTR principles in my next shoots. Zebras are already set to 90% (95 seems a little too high). For darker scenes, I will use HLG and set sharpness and NR to -5, as recommended by Leeming. That's a lot of testing and it surely takes some time to get intuitive with V-LOG and HLG. But a good LUT will be essential for a quicker workflow. So thanks for the Leeming tip! I heard that Standard Profile with sharpness and NR to -5 can produce good results for darker scenes as well. Oh dear ... so much testing ahead. Cheers!

@JustinWheeler_LA 4 жыл бұрын

G Undone, thank you for another great video with informative narrative and well-considered approaches to testing and analysis. You're a credit to KZfaq, Canada and Humanity. Solid work.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, Justin! Really appreciate that.

@rizzo-films 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Looking at the 8bit Sony vs 10bit S1, I see that as another deciding factor. At this point, grading flat footage is incredibly popular and I see a HUGE advantage in being able to (mostly) avoid banding and color artifacts. You've proven that banding vs. no banding is visible in 8bit KZfaq video uploads (amazing!), and only one camera gives you an advantage here.

@lamesandfn9693 4 жыл бұрын

The S1 did remarkably well when filming in 60fps as seen in the comparison video from Richard Wong. Sure he wasn‘t using the same types of lenses for the A7 III and S1 but the face tracking of the S1 was even superior to the Sony when shooting 60fps.

@Chorum28 4 жыл бұрын

The amount of info in this video amazing.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! 😃🙏

@my-max-media7621 4 жыл бұрын

Another great video Gerald. Great job. I'm glad you said the Sony almost never lost focus because I could see it losing it, like at 6:11. Thanks for the great work, as always ♡

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! I find with the Sony it's not like it loses focus completely and focuses on the background or something, but when it does have issues, it usually just drags a bit. As if it was a bit delayed in keeping up with the movement. Like you saw at 16:11. Turning up the focusing speed helps with this, but it can make it a bit too harsh for certain shots.

@my-max-media7621 4 жыл бұрын

@@geraldundone Right. I've seen this delay in a lot of sony clips. But, it's still out of focus 😂

@IslandFilmMaker 4 жыл бұрын

As usual, great review Gerald! My question is... who manufactures the sensor for the Si & S1R??

@TylerKidd 4 жыл бұрын

You're the best Gerald! Thank you! 🤘

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers, Tyler! Thanks.

@patrick.arnoux 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Gerald! very useful!!!

@dylanwhitefilm 3 жыл бұрын

You have the best explanations without getting too over my head lol. Have you compared the Leeming Lut to both the Gamut Lut and Panasonic’s Lut? Would be curious to see which you prefer.

@Kelkschiz 4 жыл бұрын

I am a sucker for AF comparison videos. Also really like the exposure comparison.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@SuhairZain11 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Gerald, Great video as always. As you said, the difference in gradients is not really visible on YT. Would it be possible to upload those test sections to a drive? Thanks.

@supercurioTube Жыл бұрын

Cool video still to watch in 2022 (looking into the back catalog!) At 12:00, the color accuracy comments didn't age well however with the color patches, as expected not aligning on their Rec.709 gamut reference since V-Log is using V-Gamut primaries instead, therefore requires color space conversion. It seems like even in newer videos you are missing the colorspace conversion step which requires a matrix, only distorting the hue selectively, which can allow to align a few colors manually but get most of others off in the process.

@William-Stewart 4 жыл бұрын

I actually love your videos. I want to learn more and I (being a young millennial) struggle to focus on a lot of informative videos but yours are excellent. I hope that I can one-day make content just as good and helpful to others! :) btw, do you have a colour-grading tutorial for sony cameras? I think I tried to have a look but tbf KZfaq search engine isn't the greatest. All the best!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, William. That's a big compliment and it means a lot to me. I don't have a specific video on that topic, but this one is pretty close and might be helpful: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b6tol9J_36rdnaM.html Cheers!

@JasonMorrisphotocinema 4 жыл бұрын

awesome video as usual gerald! nailed it

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers, Jason! Thanks.

@davidlongenecker9414 4 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised how close that is! Still love my GH5 though 👌🏼 glad to see the AF holds up. P.S. Gerald, you have the purest comment section 😂

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, David! I like to think we've built a good community around here. Very high ratio of kind, productive comments.

@MoCo_Filmmaker 4 жыл бұрын

Just need to see the A7III go on sale! Awesome video

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Seth!

@blaspayri7722 4 жыл бұрын

outstanding comparison, thank you. It would be interesting to test further video autofocus in real life conditions and maybe pushing further the near/far focusing possibilities

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! 😃🙏

@avarmadillo 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic review, Gerald. The testing and evaluating the results must take a ridiculous amount of time. I hope people who see these episodes appreciate all the work they took. I sure do. Ergo and flexibility are my choice. If I never saw autofocus again I wouldn't miss it. I guess it has its place, but I"m not there. I'm really looking forward to getting the upgrade. Kind of miffed that shooters in the EU get the upgrade free and EARLY--while we here in the states have to pay and get it late.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot, William. You don't get the upgrade for free too before July 31? I thought that was everywhere. Have you contacted your point of purchase about that?

@avarmadillo 4 жыл бұрын

@@geraldundone Yes. I actually got it "free" with my purchase of the S1--from B&H. (I purchased it only about a month or two ago). Of course, B&H will be sending the code out at the determined time---so nothing to do but wait. But those who purchased early will have to pay for the upgrade---indeed many already have, and they, like myself, are waiting for the code. It can't come soon enough. I'm tired of shooting in like rec. 709 and Cinelike D. Wonder what we did to get such special treatment?!?

@PhillipRPeck 4 жыл бұрын

Damn. There is so much detailed information in this video. Although I'm not particularly concerned with the outcome of this match up, I learned a lot by watching the whole thing anyway

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

That's great to hear! Thanks a lot, Phillip.

@Docfly62 4 жыл бұрын

Same here. Actually I was kinda looking forward to what his findings would be but withing a few minutes I was just bathing in the knowledge he bestowed on me. Great communicator and teacher.

@vaidehiarts 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Gerald, would love to see an updated video of the S1 with the latest firmware update features, and if you feel it's a worthy camera in 2021 (with the S5, R5/R6, A7S IIIs and Pocket 6K Pro all out and about).. also maybe a video about the ecosystem (Camera, lenses, rigging etc) for an estimation of ownership cost?

@miklschmidt 4 жыл бұрын

Man, i feel like if there was a competition for best camera tech reviewer you would win 1st, 2nd AND 3rd place. Nobody comes close. Not only that, but you just exude biaslessness (is.. is that a word?), you should be proud of that! Everyone else, no matter how unbiased they are, fail to come off that way. Great job dude!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoy the word "biaslessness". Ha. Thanks, Mikkel. Appreciate it.

@ttn109 4 жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work!!!

@justyjust 4 жыл бұрын

Great video even though my brain fried half way through with information overload, anyways thanks!!!! just one question do you think Panasonic will release a FF sports camera with hybrid AF???

@clifftotten7609 4 жыл бұрын

We know the A7-III uses the Sony IMX410 sensor. We also know that Sony has it for sale on the open market. We also know that Nikon buys it for their Z6. I would bet my wife that the S1 is also using the IMX410 sensor too. Panny has no problem buying Sony sensors at all. (GH5=IMX272 and GH5S = IMX299) If it's not the "exact" IMX410, then it's a sister BSI chip with the phase detect dual photosite grid removed. Fantastic video Gerald!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this info. I never knew all the model numbers. Appreciate it.

@skymakai 4 жыл бұрын

It is the same sensor.

@melenriquez8985 4 жыл бұрын

Good job again! Though I am fully committed to Sony now, I still have fondness for Pansaonic and who knows? Maybe in 2--3 years, I might get one once they are in version 2.. Or maybe later at mark 3. Regardless, it is always good to keep an eye on this company. I just hope there will be a good adapter from Sony E lenses to L, and Canon EF to L. That should help in making one decide to shift or go dual brand. Always looking forward to your videos.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Mel! Appreciate the kind words. 😃🙏

@robertadams3666 4 жыл бұрын

Beast video! Thank you!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers, Robert! Thanks. 😃🙏

@jonassubvert 4 жыл бұрын

Great stuff, I found that af-on near/shift is great to avoid initial hunting when you know if the new focus point are closer or more far. Works good on CANON 85mm 1.2 where the initially focus hunt otherwise can often be annoying when the camera don’t know in witch direction it should look for focus. I have the new af modes mapped to to front buttons and it will complement the normal af-on good when needed. Can imagine it will help with get more hit rates when subject is moving fast forward too in af-c. Also the af is super fast on the new Panasonic 50mm 1.4, much better then24-105. And like others have pointed out that af-c in video 60p works better then 24p. I feel af in video are very solid with Panasonic 50/1.4. Keep the good work up, cheers

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts/experiences. I mapped mine to the front buttons too. 😃 Glad to hear the 50mm is performing nicely. Cheers!

@samthetinkerer4947 4 жыл бұрын

Very useful video, unbiased and professional.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😃

@PostColorGear 4 жыл бұрын

You nailed the concept of the Sony colors. (right before the 13:00 mark) People, after years of seeing Canon footage, just aren't used to the more accurate, for lack of a better explanation, colors on the Sony. Also, good demonstration on the 8 bit vs 10 bit in a practical sense by showing that color chart.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! Appreciate you chiming on this one. Respect your opinion.

@imabigsandwich1292 4 жыл бұрын

But here is the weird thing, the fuji has just as accurate colors as the sony, but the colors and the skintones seems to be much more pleasing to the eye, so why is that the case? Is it the highlight roll off or something?

@IslandFilmMaker 4 жыл бұрын

Great comparisons! My question is... who makes the sensor for the S1????

@jamesblond917 4 жыл бұрын

Now, we can also use Varicam luts on the S1!

@alex-chicago-80 2 жыл бұрын

I'm still watching after 2 years lol. Lumix did a phenomenal job with organomics, EVF resolutions, and stabilization. The decision to stick with contrast AF is where they went wrong. I suppose that's probably the toughest part of developing a new line of cameras. It took Sony several generations to get it right, and with the new Nikon Z9 (I hope you make a vid using that beast), it took Nikon 3 generations. I think Panasonic has a chance to at least be a 4th option amongst the 3 giant camera companies if they decide to ditch their current AF system. They have video and stabilization down already, so having eye and face direction would definitely make it a very interesting option for pros and semi-pros out there. There's always room for those that want to not follow the crowd.

@leoquesto9183 4 жыл бұрын

Rockin', Brotha!

@Photographicelements 4 жыл бұрын

The professor is back and class is in session.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

😃🙏👍

@cameraconspiracies 4 жыл бұрын

Sony 9 bit confirmed :)

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

It's the only explanation!

@stimpy1 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a bit late to this, but thanks for the extremely useful video upload.

@EugeneMaynard 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent 🙏🏾

@JonPais 4 жыл бұрын

Insanely good content.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, Jon! Appreciate your comments.

@TedMV 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video as always.. Just one question: I saw quite a few videographers complaining about a very noticeable moirè effect problem while shooting with the S1 (as I understand, it lacks an antialiasing filter on the sensor).. did you have this problem too?

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

I did not. But I shoot on the highest settings and with sharpening all the way down, which helps a lot. I also try to avoid textures and angles that aggravate moiré. But I can look into it further and see what I come up with.

@TedMV 4 жыл бұрын

@@geraldundone thanks for the reply.. but don't worry. I was just curious because these posts I read on Facebook made it seem as though the moirè was so bad that the camera was pretty much unusable. I thought that they might have been exaggerating the issue so I was wondering what you thought about it. Anyway, thanks for the great content! 👍

@clintcompose 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!! Gh6 will be a beast

@darqaegis9045 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent job!

@DorzCreativo 4 жыл бұрын

Next intro: "DALE A TU CUERPO ALEGRÍA MACARENA"

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

😂😜👌

@Hunselmann 4 жыл бұрын

Your tests are the best! Even if i don't own a Panasonic S1 I just have to watch your videos. Just to bring me up to date in the camera world. I own a A73 but im still not 100% happy with it. The worst is the low light performance compared to the A6500. The A6500 outperformed my A73 in low light in every picture profile (noise & AF). I cant explain myself. Maybe you can? :)

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words! But I can't explain the low light results you experienced either. I've done that comparison and the a7 III was a clear winner for me. Did you have APS-C mode on?

@Hunselmann 4 жыл бұрын

@@geraldundone Nope... APS-C mode is even worse... Maybe I just send my A7m3 back to Sony Customer Service. Thx for ur reply.

@nixolo86 4 жыл бұрын

@@Hunselmann If you film with standard or picture profile Still and you enable the noise reduction in the settings it will apply it also in video...maybe you have it ON just in the sony a6500

@adamjaynes1503 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Gerald, thanks for the super helpful information. Question for you: given the nature of contrast based autofocus, do you think it is possible to fully solve the problem of focus hunting on this camera? I have been pondering this for weeks because I wish that Panasonic could figure out a way to fix this issue and perfect the S1. Since contrast based autofocus works by the process of checking focus against itself by going out of focus, could it be forever doomed with this problem.? What do you think? Is there hope that one day contrast auto focus will be reliable? (anyone else please feel free to comment as well:)

@SewTubular 4 жыл бұрын

I wish you had done an IBIS comparison when shooting video, especially when the camera is in motion: handheld panning, tilting, some combo of the two, and walking while shooting video. Looking at GH5 vs A7III IBIS comparisons, there is a huge difference in IBIS performance when the camera is in motion, so it would have been great to have this confirmed when comparing the S1 and the A7III.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

The IBIS between the S1 and a7 III is not worth comparing. I demonstrated the IBIS in my previous review, it's on a whole 'nother level compared to the a7 III. The S1 is very similar to the GH5 in this regard. Sony IBIS isn't that helpful for video, imo.

@SewTubular 4 жыл бұрын

@@geraldundone I think it's always worth comparing because many people will mistakenly assume that ALL 5-axis IBIS is the SAME, when they are not at all. So it's always helpful to remind people that there is a huge difference with IBIS from different brands. Compare it the same way you would autofocus. because good IBIS makes shooting handheld footage so easy. No tripod or monopod, just pick up the camera and shoot.

@marinrealestatephotography 4 жыл бұрын

I know this is an older video, but hope you don't mind me asking a question or two. In terms of dynamic range, the bottom line is that while they are similar, in V Log your main benefit is going to be avoiding banding in the sky, and the main advantages of SLOG are a bit better color accuracy and a bit better highlight retention. But in terms of overall usable dynamic range in numbers of stops, there isn't a clear winner, correct? Thanks in advance.

@nicholassmith7723 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have a video discussing why ISO is measured differently between camera brands? I was under the impression that ISO was a standardized measurement

@michaelcliffordphotos 4 жыл бұрын

Next intro: I have a beginning and a middle but no

@eirjordan337 4 жыл бұрын

Man I was waiting for this! Definitely thinking more seriously about the S1 now...I just love shooting with no gimbals (spoiled by the GH5 and not willing to give it up) and now that sigma L lenses are coming...yeah it’s not a simple argument anymore...

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Ha. Cheers! I'm glad. Thanks for the comment!

@frankfeng2701 4 жыл бұрын

Please include other popular less flat picture profiles from both cameras like HLG3, cine4, CineD, CineV, etc.

@Mightythunder0987 4 жыл бұрын

A Gerald Undone vlog! Oh, v-log.

@AcidicDelusion 4 жыл бұрын

They really did fix that autofocus Well done, Panasonic.

@razvanzot6297 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Gerald. How did you record the color accuracy part? Or what color grade did you applied on that footage, because, as far as I can see on the LeemingLut website, only GH5s V-Log L's LUT are for sale and I can't see anything for the S1 or the V-Log. Did you record in HLG or CineD? Thank you!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

I just applied the V-LogL LUT, because like I said, you can make it work as long as you respect the different maximum clipping points.

@nunodeazevedo 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice video :)

@TomOhle1 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Gerald, first of all great comparison! Have you seen Richard Wong's comparison of both cameras. He did the talking head and jumping into frame video tests and found that the new firmware with higher framerates resulted in drastically improved performance. Comparing 24p 4k to 24p 4k on both sony and pansonic he found the Sony to perform better but the S1 to be much improved over prior versions. He had a theory that bumping to a higher framerate, allowed the DFD algorithm to sample the sensor faster and result in better focus tracking. when increasing the frame rate, the Panasonic was noticeably superior (in my opinion anyway) to the Sony and the results were not at all what I was expecting. While the S1 uses a 4k 60p crop area it still demonstrates the potential. Even for those of us shooting 1080p where the S1 may actually have the better video performance. Regardless it's great to see the improvements both Sony and Panasonic are putting into their AF systems. Worth checking out his video :)

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

I'll definitely check that out. Cheers!

@andrewcampbell3184 4 жыл бұрын

@@geraldundone yes I saw that video too. 24p seems similar, I think Sony still quite a bit faster and better. But 60fps S1 video tracking is a different beast! Like Goku transfomed into Super Saiyen! He also tested many different ways too, not just pop in and out, he also did talking head, slowly moving at close distance, walking, not moving and even running

@TMaister 4 жыл бұрын

Patiently waiting for the camera company I bought it from to receive Panasonic’s DMW-SFU2 codes so I can try the filmmaker update! Comes free as long as you buy from an authorized company before July 31st I believe!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

I hope you get it soon!

@franklinmichael671 4 жыл бұрын

If you wanted the cleanest footage in extreme low light what would be better, a Sony a7siii with a T1.2 lens or a Sony a6500 with a full frame T1.2 lens and a speed booster? Is the A7sii's bigger sensor capable of using more than one stop more of light than the smaller APS-C sensor? It would also be super interesting to try a T1.2 medium format lens with the speed booster for sony full frame on the a7sii

@MarkMcLT 4 жыл бұрын

Gerald, have you seen Richard Wong's video AF test on the latest S1 firmware from a few days ago? Interestingly, he found that at 60fps the performance was greatly improved and actually on a par with the A7iii at 4k60. Perhaps mainly of academic interest for most since you can't shoot 4k60 without a crop, but still an interesting result. It would be interesting to see if someone can replicate it.

@VindicateMedia 4 жыл бұрын

A7iii doesn't have 4k60...

@MarkMcLT 4 жыл бұрын

@@VindicateMedia Right, whereas the S1 can but with a crop. So if you really need 4k at fullframe, you're limited to slower framerates either way, and Richard's results are not all that helpful. But if you only need 1080p or you can live with the S1 crop at 4k60, and if Richard's results turn out to be correct, it would appear that the S1 autofocus is now right up there with the Sony - again perhaps not useful in practice for most people, but this does seem to be actual news.

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, Mark. I'll be sure to check that out. Cheers!

@pedrocarzolio 3 жыл бұрын

Hey gerald! Could you explain how does the hdmi output works in the s1 when filming internally at 4k? I don't see any way to set the output resolution and I thougth that if I am in 4k the output would be 4k, but I am monitoring in diferent HD only compatible monitors and it works ok sending an HD signal automatically...

@luisneumannp2748 4 жыл бұрын

What framerate did you use for the video autofocus comparison? There's video from Richard Wong which shows that the autofocus improves tremendously on the S1 when switched to 60p

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

24p. Which I think is the most important framerate to test this on.

@mclarenf1V12 4 жыл бұрын

Really useful review. I have S1. Waiting on VLog. Really helpful to see it pitched against the Sony, which I have rented before. Sony seems to be quite amazing but the thing that keeps me with the Panny is simple, at least for me........6K VLog!!!

@karlpouillot1064 4 жыл бұрын

6K Vlog for the S1 ?

@The33scap 4 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha you used it! You bloody legend!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

😃😜👍

@wahlenfuture 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, Im have the new DMW-SFU2 V-Log upgrade and I wonder what editing software you are using for the .mov fils? Thanks for your help!

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

I was using Premiere, but I've recently switched to Resolve.

@briandecasa5444 4 жыл бұрын

Basically the way I see it is that the advantage in IBIS outweighs the AF. At the end of the day, it is much easier to MF in a pinch and get a shot versus being always in focus but cannot fix the camera shake in post. Also Gerald, just to clarify - with the S1, if it handles highlight recovery more if you expose for the shadows (to avoid color shift), would it not make sense to have the Zebras set higher?

@geraldundone 4 жыл бұрын

The zebras should be set to 85% so that you know when something is going to clip. Ideally, we'd want to set them to 88%, but that's not an option, so it's safer to stick with 85%. In my experience though, you can actually go 1/3 to 2/3rds of a stop beyond 85% and still be fine. But just be careful, and don't do that on skin.

@briandecasa5444 4 жыл бұрын

@@geraldundone great, thanks! Now that I'm done with your subpar review I'm going to wait for camera conspiracies high quality scientific review. :)

@Serenoj69 4 жыл бұрын

Well...the AF on the Sony is great. The EVF, Hires mode, weathersealing are great on the Panasonic S1. But it weighs...a lot more! I would go for the SOny, unless you shoot landscapes where the HiRes mode even with movement just shines!