Haha...awesome! Appreciate that

If you Tried Sony, you would switch. Sony has the best auto focus from any camera.

@@deivytrajan Sony also doesn't have as many bells and whistles at the price point that Lumix does.

I bought an A7IV and sold it once they came out with the S5ii. I hope I never have to buy a Sony again lol

That's an interesting decision, I can relate to liking the S5ii. I didn't do that because of the lens selection, the auto-focus is still quite a bit behind Sony although it's at least in a similar ballpark now. The only has a 33mp sensor vs the 24mp in the Lumix, which for me as a Hybrid shooter is helpful. But the S5ii's 6K video resolution is pretty cool. The A7IV has 7K downsampled which I thought wouldn't look as good but on side by side I like the way it looks more. However; the video formats and menu and just general friendliness of the Lumix for me still makes it tempting. @@KBmediaOnline

I’m actually following the same path myself lol. R6 to A7iv, back to R6, back to A7iv again, and now trying to decide between either R6 mkii or S5ii lol

@@victortalley Imo R6ii was not much of an upgrade from the R6. 4mp and unlimited hours recording. S5ii was a huge upgrade but then again the S5 wasn't that great. I really like the S5ii much more than the R6ii. R6iii will likely be pretty awesome considering whats going on these days. Canon will have to step up.

@@parmanduke see my concern is I do a LOT of photo and video equally. I prefer my canon for photo over Sony. But with video I find I never was able to get a satisfying image with my r6 (totally my fault). So I’m hoping the S5ii balances it out for me

​@@victortalleyS5IIX for Photo/video equally you'll be more than happy. It's excellent for stills as it is for video.

@@victortalleyq❤

Agreed!!! I'm surprised Nikon didn't release the Z6III last year. Obviously they had the Z8 launch so that might be why but the Z6II was a VERY minor update from the original Z6 so and obviously the Z8 is a massive step ahead so they need to filter some of that tech down the line. With full frame 4k60 and over 12fps they could blow away the A7IV in specs if they wanted

What made you choose XH2S? I compared both in Rtings and I couldn't justify spending more for xH2S which has worse auto focus

Same situation , more a budget thing for me. THe af isnt just " better " is finally usable. So much times AF on S5 ruined some footage, despite I know I can't rely , but sometime for example in a crowd and I want to shoot someone walking on stage, and I can't have my hands on the lens (because I step up the camera using a t ripod ) over the crowd , and just af was so ... tilting. (it was with 85 lumix 1.8 ) so its a lumix lense wich are the "best" to be used with AF on s5.

I’d say don’t wait because your wasting time in a what if. Just create with what you want to use

Agreed!

Just did a vertical edit yesterday of a project I did in March.... Forgot I shot it in 3:2 and was so glad to find out I had all this extra space !!

its on my wish list for sure :) and it looks cool :D@@mcronfpv8736

Thanks! I agree...I personally don't use external SSD's and Prores often for youtube but...it is nice to have just in case lol. I hear once you start shooting prores, it's tough to go back to anything else because the files are so easy to work with

Awesome! Appreciate that. Enjoy the new rig

Awesome! I haven't actually tried anamorphic in 60fps yet

Thanks so much!

Thanks so much! Right now Tamron doesn't support this mount but Sigma does. Almost all of Sigma's newer lenses are created in "L mount" which is what the Panasonic full frame cameras use.

Means a lot!!!

Hey! I find Panasonic seems more neutral with colors and probably closer to Canon than Sony. I haven't tried to match them side by side but the 10bit profiles from Sony grade pretty well now so I don't think it will be too hard to get them close. Sony's previous 8bit cameras were tough to work with but the FX30 shouldn't be too hard to get close enough to the S5IIX

Thanks! Yeah, I do find that a few tweaks to the AF settings go a long way. I'm in Orlando

@@learningcameras team orlando! cool to see so many creatives here, great video my dude.

I'll agree with you there!

Thanks! The gimbal is this: bhpho.to/3wqSPGX and the holder I used which is on sale is this: bhpho.to/48bF3bZ

@@learningcameras thx for your fast answer :)

It's a tough choice. In almost every way, the S5IIX is a better camera (the exception being autofocus) but Sony has more lenses, accessories, and is the easier bet in the long run since Panasonics system is newer. I fully expect Panasonic to commit to full frame, it's just that most of their current full frame cameras are gen 1 or gen 2 so they are behind. So if you don't mind taking a bit more risk and if perfect autofocus isn't crucial for what you do, I'd go Lumix

Awesome! Enjoy

1 year of savings, he he he...it worth it.@@learningcameras

Absolutely!!! Check out the sales on the kits right now too: bhpho.to/4akJUti Insane prices

I have not personally experienced it but it's not a camera issue...it's because the S5IIX no longer has an anti aliasing filter. That filter has been removed from almost all cameras 24mp and more because AA filters can have a negative effect on sharpness and detail. So it's something new to Panasonic users because they have been used to lower resolution crop sensor cameras but most high resolution full frame cameras will also have this issue if they don't have an AA filter

@@learningcameras Thanks

Just my own luts I created over the years. Haven't made them available for sale yet though...just my Lightroom presets

First of all thank you for making me build this I am also considering this option 20 40 60 mm is very nice starting range but that 3.5-5.6 is the only downside… will have to always check iso and the change in dof in kit it comes to 350$ so is a deal if buget is restricted at first… that for 6k mode 24-30fps, for 4k 60 you will have 1.5 crop, so it becomes 30 60 90mm, in this mode you will need a lens 11-20mm or something like this, In my mind i always think of this full frame mm (14 24 35 50 85mm) For sony ff i have 17-28 f2.8, 28-75 f2.8 70-300 f4.5-6.3 (at 275mm it stil has 5.6f so is like 1cm dof and 2mm 100% focus) Now for lumix s5iix On the cheap side in 4k apsc mode you have sigma apsc 18-50mm f2.8 (apsc 28-75mm) 550$, Summary: Option 1: 1lens 350$ in kit f3.5-5.6 (ff 20-40-60, apsc 30 60 90mm) this will get you started only, considering the rest of accessories we need to buy) Option 2: 3 lens 1550$ (ff 6k 20-60 f3.5-5.3, apsc 4k 15-75mm F2.8 Panasonic 20-60 f3.5-5.3 (30-90mm) 350$ Sigma apsc 10-18 f2.8 (15-32mm) 650$ Sigma apsc 18-50mm f2.8 (apsc 28-75mm) 550$ Option 3: 2 lens 1800$ kit f2.8 (ff 6k 16-70mm, aps-c 4k 24-95mm) Sigma 16-28 f2.8 900$ Sigma 28-70 f2.8 900$ Option 4: 2 lens 2700$ kit f2.8 (ff 6k 14-70mm, aps-c 4k 21-95mm) Sigma 14-24 f2.8 (apsc 21-36mm) 1800$ Sigma 28-70 f2.8 (apsc 42-105mm) 900$ Option 5: 5 (3+2optional) lens 4720$ (2020$+2700$ optional) kit f1.4 (ff 6k 14-24-30-50-85, apsc 4k 21-36-45-75-127) Sigma 14mm f1.4 (apsc 21mm) 1600$ (optional) Sigma 24mm f1.4 (apsc 36mm) 950$ sigma 30mm f1.4 (apsc 45mm) 370$, sigma 50mm f1.4 (apsc 75mm) 700$ Sigma 85mm f1.4 (apsc 127mm) 1100$ (optional) Notable mention: sigma apsc 16mm f1.4 (apsc 24mm) 450$ , sigma 30mm f1.4 (apsc 45mm) 370$, panasonic 50 f1.8 (apsc 75mm) 480$ If you find them second hand in good condition is even better if you are starting out like me

Appreciate that! Definitely looking forward to what Panasonic has coming up....kinda surprised it took them this long to get back in the game lol but they have the ability to crush it with features like open gate, anamorphic support, rugged build, and endless video features so hopefully they throw some new cameras out soon

Actually, it looks like 2TB is the limit currently

Definitely agree with that!

Awesome!!! It's on a CRAZY sale right now though: bhpho.to/4akJUti

@@learningcameras might be entering the rumor mill here, but do you anticipate the price discounts are due to an impending announcement for a new camera? i've seen the registrations and what not. the only thing holding me back from picking up the s5iix is the fear of buying one just to miss out on a new, beefier camera

@@unfitcrit I don't think the sale is related to this but I do think we'll see a new Panasonic S1 series from Panasonic which will be higher end (but also higher price) than the S5 series. No clue when but this year would seem logical for an upgrade. We'll have to see if Panasonic also announces an X version for the S1 series. With the S5II series, both cameras were announced on the same day but the X version took an extra 3+months before you could buy one so we could be well into 2025 before you can actually purchase a S1IIX anyway even if it exists

@@learningcameras that makes sense. kinda tough to drop $2k on the camera when a higher end one might be around the corner. stuck between spending and saving. wish they'd just announce something!

If you shoot in electronic shutter, you could see it. It's not the fastest sensor readout but it's better than the Sony A7IV for example. In mechanical shutter you won't have issues

Hahaha! I don't currently have any rumors on the S1HII but I'll throw it out there and say it should have 6k60 and 4k120 with a 24mp sensor. And if Panasonic wanted to go all out, it would be a stacked CMOS sensor with fast read speeds for very little rolling shutter. I do expect a Sony A7SIV in 2024 with a stacked cmos sensor but I highly doubt Sony will go open gate

Its autofocus is 95% of sony but Panasonics c are known for softwareupdates which changes the cams significantly whick feels like new cam. I habe both and the autofocus is nearly the same if you know the settings.

I'd say Panasonic is currently slightly better than Fuji (not sure why Fuji can't figure this one out) but Sony is probably the most reliable. The problem is the S5IIX is a vastly better camera than the A7IV for video especially so it's a tough choice. The S5IIX focuses extremely well...but there can be an occasional hiccup which is pretty rare on the latest Sony cameras

This is the dual handle I use: amzn.to/46Vv8pR

Same!!!

You're correct, it looks like I missed that limit

Absolutely. And you have to keep in mind this is Panasonics first camera with phase detection so the fact that they are at least as good as Sony's A7III (3rd gen AF), is pretty good. But they did get a late start so they do have a little bit of catching up to do naturally

Can't wait for them to upgrade the AF from the G9II to the S5IIX

There are fantastic lenses from Panasonic. Sigma and Leica. If thats not enough, get an adapter and use pretty much any lens you want. I bought a Canon FD adapter for $29 and use a few vintage Canon lenses on my S5II, love it.

Definitely the prices are much lower than the competition. There are a few missing lenses in Panasonics lineup but Sigma has some amazing L mount options as well. Panasonic actually has a ton of midgrade lenses....it's the super high end pro lenses that I'm still waiting on a few. But most people will probably want these midgrade lenses with this particular camera anyway

Thank you very much for responding Dan!@@learningcameras

As long as your exposure is good, you shouldn't have an issue. I used filters. But remember, the autofocus system "sees" what you see so if the image is dark, what it sees is dark making it difficult to focus. Even with phase detection autofocus, I've noticed the AF algorithms on the S5II series are still very contrast dependent so if you take away contrast or light with filters, it will have more issues locking focus so things like mist filters that reduce contrast might also reduce autofocus performance

@@learningcameras Cool makes sense thanks for sharing!

Absolutely, talking head style videos are great for this and photos are great as well. If you want to shoot the talking head videos with full autofocus on, maybe consider the Canon R6II or Sony A7IV instead but they well cost more

The biggest advantages to the S5IIX are full frame, 6k, open gate, (great for anamorphic as well), codecs like prores, , and the photo abilities. And while 4k60 in the S5IIX has a crop, the entire FX30 is a crop camera so advantage still goes to Panasonic. The FX30 has 4k120 and more reliable autofocus so depends on what's most important

@@learningcameras thank you Dan ❤️ one last question, how is the image quality compared cuz at the end of the day we rig it out and spend on accessories but what matters the most is the actual image quality. How do you compare fx30 image quality with full frame cameras like s5ii or fx3

@@raman139 I think full frame has a bigger quality impact on photos than video so for photography, I'd say there is a much larger difference between the FX30 and full frame. I also think the FX3 is simply too low resolution to be useful for photography except in emergencies. On the video side, for talking head videos, interviews, weddings, and doc style video, I think the S5II/S5IIX have features that make them absolutely amazing. For everything else, especially with higher frame rates like 60-120fps, the FX30 and FX3 are great cameras and have the bonus of having reliable enough autofocus to pretty much use for anything.

@@learningcameras ❤️ thank you for replying bro , i got the fx30 for music videos and now i am thinking I should have gone for lumix s5ii

@@raman139 I mean the FX30 is a great camera so don't feel bad about it...just different sets of strengths! But the FX30 is a great camera, especially if you want those faster frame rates and autofocus

So check out my S5II video from the event: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/erqAqLOJrLu2fHU.html because this video isn't a "review". There were actually a few comments in it pointing out that my review was the only one addressing the AF issues. I was actually pretty disappointed in that trip because I was shooting alongside youtubers who were having massive AF issues and NONE of them talked about it in their videos. But I don't blame Panasonic for that...they had nothing to do with it...they gave us 100% free access to shoot whatever we wanted and say whatever we wanted. It's up to us as creators to be honest. I do think that because it was a first event for a lot of people that are just youtubers and not really "press reviewers", that skewed things a bit too much. But again, that isn't an issue with Panasonic or any other brand...obviously plenty of Apple fans with the letter "i" in their name that get invited to Apple events and put out content on the new iPhone that's skewed pro Apple which is way worse than the camera press trips

You are correct...I was mistaken that 4tb worked

Absolutely

what features did fuji come with first?

Love the xh2s when I tried it out but ended up went the Panasonic cus of the price. In Australia we can get close to 2 s5ii bodies for the same price of 1 xh2s

The XH2s is a ripoff. $2,500 for an APS-C camera lol. No wonder it doesnt sell.

H2s is up there above S5xii

I'm in the middle of watching the video right now and I immediately thought that it was the X-H2s that has the "wake-up call" specs! It's funny how many completely overlook Fujifilm... just because it is not full-frame. It is EXACTLY the positive of it being an APS-C sensor(stacked sensor, to be exact) is why it punches WAY above its weight.

It has a 3.5mm mic input so yes. Panasonic also makes an XLR add on but I haven't used it yet

Absolutely...they need to go all out

Pretty much all cameras can have moire now because they got rid of the AA filters so it is what it is. But anti-aliasing filters were on every camera 5+ years ago so we were always seeing how effective they were. But no AA filter means more light and more detail which is needed with higher resolution sensors

I'm not hearing about or experiencing this issue with the sony lineup though. But, their cine and hybrid cameras don't have as many megapixels so I assume that's why. I've heard filters can help but will interfere with the AF at least a little. @@learningcameras

@@VeganLinked right. It's the high resolution cameras where it can be an issue and most of those no longer have AA filters built in which helped control moire but also lowered the amount of detail you could get

So internal BRAW will require CFexpress cards so it would typically be a higher end larger body to support that...I'm thinking the S1 series will have it. Same thing with a faster sensor although I don't expect to see a global shutter anytime soon. Sony just proved it's possible but also that it doesn't have the quality and low light performance of BSI sensors yet so I'm thinking we'll see a faster scanning BSI sensor or maybe stacked CMOS but again, those sensors are typically only in way more expensive cameras so I'd be surprised to see it on a camera that costs under 3 grand. I do think the next Sony A7SIII/FX3 upgrade will have a stacked cmos sensor but not global shutter

Good to know! I'm actually pretty sure this will be updated over time but 2TB drives are actually the sweet spot for storage/cost anyway and about 4x the storage of what V90 SD cards give you at a fraction of the cost

True...but you lose quite a few other features on the BM and ease of use for sure. But if you need the frame rates and can't sacrifice the full frame, the BM 6k is great until Panasonic rolls out a new S1 series

The rolling shutter isn't good but it's on par with other cameras in this price point. This sensor is based on the Sony A7III and the Sony A7IV has worse rolling shutter because it went higher on MP without increasing scan speeds. To get better rolling shutter, you either need fast scan speeds or low megapixels. The Canon R6II scan speeds are a little faster but you either need to go low megapixels like the A7SIII (not great for photos), or stacked CMOS which I'm hoping the S1 series which I expect to see this year will use

Sony

Panasonic uses modified Sony sensors I believe but has their own color profile

They use Sony for FF, and some super secret non-Sony sensors for MFT.

What's better in this price range? The Sony A7IV is worse and the Canon R6II might be slightly better but you lose quite a bit on the video features. The GH6 is much better thanks to the smaller sensor but I think the smaller sensor is a disadvantage with photos especially

@@learningcameras the Sony ZV-E1

@@DJILLEE yes that and the A7S3, both have the same, very fast FF sensor and nice slow motion capabilities. But its only a 12MP. You can't crop in without severely losing in quality and Sony IBIS is crap compared to S5II. No open gate, nor high bit rate external recording etc. So it depends what you want. For fast motion recording I'd go for A7S3 or even G9II. For everything else, the S5II is superior in every metric.

@@DJILLEE Super low resolution so not exactly a hybrid camera. To get less rolling shutter, you need less pixels or faster sensors. The S3 and E1 get around this by using low resolution sensors which makes them really not workable for most photography projects. Ideally we want fast sensors and Sony doesn't do them in anything under $6k right now. The Canon R6II is probably the fastest readout in this price range but Panasonic is probably 2nd unless you go super low resolution or MUCH further up the price to things like the Nikon Z8, Sony A9III/A1 cameras

Having shot high-speed rollers at highway speeds in full frame 6K, I don't know why people are so disheartened by it. Never bothered me once (and I'm extremely picky!) and it shouldn't be a factor unless you exclusively do whip pans or something.

I'm sure Panasonic would love a 1 year turnaround (as would Nikon) but like you said because of lenses and ecosystem, it takes a LONG time and yes, I think Panasonic owns that failure. But now Panasonic is pretty close to playing at Sony/Canon levels with autofocus/photo and blowing them away with video so I think Canon and Sony will start feeling pressure as Panasonic expands these features to their other cameras. Especially now that Panasonic offers a decent lens lineup. Remember, this is the FIRST updated phase detection AF camera from Panasonic and the first 2nd gen full frame camera..They still need to update their entire lineup which doesn't happen overnight. Nikon also produced a winner in the Z8 so I do think the days of Sony & Canon enjoying almost no competition are about over. And I wouldn't be surprised to see DJI become a major player next year. But Sony delivered an average camera in the video department with the A7IV which is leaving room for a bit more competition

As an owner of the amazing Osmo Pocket 3 I love how everything like log, 10 bit , 120fps 4k 1" sensor phase detect and gimbal cost about £400. If they ever produce a full frame or even apsc with a similar price performance then even Sony might have to take notice. I also own a A7RV , ZV1 and A6700 - the key is lenses. Not old lenses like Pansonic M43 of which I own many but they are slow and noisy to focus but modern state of the art Gmaster and third parties. Really the game has been won by Sony. Canon sell almost twice as many cameras as Sony but Sony camera revenues are 20% more. That says everything. People are buying high end expensive cameras from Sony. It's no good getting excited about Panasonic's recent conversion to phase detect when Sony AI chip aided autofocus has just raised the bar again. It's like Panasonic are at where Sony were 5 years ago. All my current Sony's have that AI chip and not a gimick. Nikon have done well with a Sony sensor but the A9 iii is the writing on the wall. I love all the "features" of the Panasonic cameras , I love the build quality and the value for money but they are too late to the party. IMO@@learningcameras

@@ourtvchannel Panasonic is definitely playing catch up with autofocus, full frame lenses, and probably with sensor tech but that's about it. And with the massive leap in autofocus ability on the S5II they might be getting to the good enough for most people even if Sony stays in the lead. For example, none of us complained about the autofocus of the Sony A7III because it was good enough. Even though the A7IV improved autofocus, for most people, they were still happy with the A7III. Same thing applies with lenses. Sure, Sony will have more lens options but if the main lenses I need are covered, having more doesn't affect me personally. So yes, Sony is ahead in a few areas but Panasonic has serious advantages so once autofocus and lens selection are good enough, all the things that make Panasonic amazing will hold greater value

Clearly the market doesn't careless about the "Advantages" of Panasonic as demostrated in the sales of their models. Sony are not just leading in tech, lenses and customers - they are leading in revenue from cameras, over 20% more than Canon. The cinema camera rental market in the USA has seen a big move towards Sony in recent months too. Professionals are now choosing Sony over Red. Panasonic are like an athlete at the olympics who turns up at the starting line after the race has started and still expects to finish close to the leads IMO. @@learningcameras

Well, full frame 4k60 isn't NEEDED by everyone. And this has the advantage of being significantly better for things like interviews, wedding ceremonies, or talking head like youtube videos. It's still usable in 4k60, it's just APSC. The S5 line from Panasonic is also a lower priced line than the R6II. The S5IIX adds a little cost because of the extra codecs but Canon doesn't offer those either. But I personally use 4k60 often as well so the R6II is a great option for that...at least until Panasonic releases a new S1 body which should have FF 4k60

Rarely do pros shoot at 60.come on be real with yourself

Lol, I'd take my S5 ii over the R6 ii any day.

@@learningcameras I hear you, but the projects these types of cameras are used on slow motion is almost always needed. For tripod work cameras half this price are more than enough. Cropping for slow motion doesn’t work because your framing always changes when you switch between photo and video. I’ve tried this and it’s hell. The new S1H will be amazing for sure, but that’s another price category jump up compared to these cameras. I’m pretty sure the S5s could do 4k 60 full frame, what’s a good reason to leave it out? Huge miss from Panasonic.

The sensor is not fast enough to record 4k 60 without a crop otherwise it would have it. We will see if Panasonic makes a faster reading sensor.

It does have it over hdmi so you just need to use external recording. The higher end S1H series and Gh6 series do have internal timecode I believe. They probably should have added it to the X but not many other 2000 full frame hybrid cameras have timecode

@@learningcameras Sending timecode out is useless. It needs to come in.

@@edjefferson9175 So Panasonic has this in the hire end more pro video cameras like the GH6 and S1 series. The S1 desperately needs an update though but I'm guessing timecode will be in the latest version as well

@@learningcameras GH6 and S1H take timecode in via the flash sync port. I believe a firmware could be written to route timecode from the audio input. Only thing keeping S5IIX from Netflix approval is lack of timecode. I assume Panasonic does this to get people to spend more money on higher level tier equipment. To differentiate Pro/Consumer products. Of course we can work around by recording timecode on an audio channel and convert after. I use Tentacle Sync and it works for me. When I submitted my footage with timecode striped on an audio channel the editor wanted nothing to do with it.They want it contained within the metadata.