I am a Pantheist. Spinoza has me convinced. Deep peace to you all!

In my humble opinion, I think of God as being pure energy. Energy is pervasive throughout the universe. God is everything and everywhere. I see myself as a bit of energy drawn from a vast ocean of energy that becomes me. When I die, I cease to exist as the individual me and go back to that vast ocean of energy. I become one with everything else.

We are the universe trying to figure itself out.

I feel pantheism is very very close to what science has to offer.

It sounds more like anti pantheism propaganda lol The narrator keeps saying "I don't like that pantheism doesn't offer personal immortality". Well, man. This is not a question of personal preference, this is a quest for truth. I don't like that fire is hot or water is wet, but it's not up to me to choose. You can't discard pantheism just because you want the world to work in a certain way.

I'm still a staunch atheist but about 15 years ago in my early 20 I came to this concept by myself and became fascinated by it, incorporated it into my storytelling. I only learned pantheism was an established philosophical idea a couple of months ago, and felt so validated and conflicted at the same time haha. It definitely rekindled my examination of the concept.

I consider myself a pantheist because I’ve come to find God to be imperfect - struggling to get things right and failing more often than not, but still creating better, more life-affirming and more moral existences through the struggle, working these difficulties out in the universe. So the “problem of evil” in my pantheistic view comes from God failing. And my pantheism certainly doesn’t include any salvation - personal or impersonal. This short life is my story. I’ll be happy to close the book on it in time, and let other stories flourish.

simply one of the best channels of the net. PERIOD. agree with the episode or disagree. thank you

Call Reality 'God' and keep exploring It from within.

What I know is I am Naturalist, who loves nature, appreciate umderstand beyond my morals and emotions, I thought Nature is the god himself there is no separation including me, I didn't know there was a coin for that and in my surprised I am a Pantheist.

Saint Paul “We Live Move & Have Our Being In God”

I always thought of God as not a being, but rather that energy that makes up everything at the atomic level. The magnetism that draws elements together, and splits them apart. When you view it this way, you see that "God" is essentially everything. That's why you should have respect and reverence for... everything. From the ground you walk on, the air you breathe, and absolutely everything in between. Use it and appreciate it and it can "bless you", abuse it and misuse it and it can "wreak havoc upon you".

Let me get this straight: the desire for personal immortality is strong. Pantheism doesn't provide this. Therefore pantheism is false?

Interesting video, I love the channel!! I come from a theistic background, but being unsatisfied with the explanations I looked into the worlds other spiritual practices to try to gain a better understanding. For several years I have been practicing sadhana prescribed by Indian Reshis and gurus. I had no concept of pantheism as you describe it here in the beginning, but slowly my understanding has evolved from not knowing what god could be into seeing how everything in existence Could indeed be God. Now I think that is true, as I continue the practices, it becomes clearer to me. We should consider using the terms “knowledge” and “ignorance” when discussing the good and evil phenomenon. It changes the discussion dramatically. I think that there’s is some spiritual training that individuals must do before we can understand the nature of our existence. At some point in the distant future I think science and human understanding will evolve to the point where we can verify Gods existence and understand God. I think what we find will be something very different than what most people are expecting.

As a Pantheist I feel that good and evil is just a part of the nature of consciousness. Does the Universe care about good and evil? At the beginning , end and everything in between does the Universe care? Morality is a construct of mortality. Mortality Is a state of consciousness. We choose good or evil depending on what we feel about them. Our reaction from choices are a part of the Universe. Like the ebb and flow of a tide. A choice is like throwing a tin of paint on a canvas, you cannot accurately predict the pattern that it will leave. It’s chaotic and alive at the point of impact and when the paint dries the pattern remains. I love that I can validate my spirituality to my creator through science and observation of my self and nature.

Is it me or is Robert rejecting pantheism simply for emotional reasons?

From my observation most religions and people who discuss God assume that God is the starting point for everything. However, if energy, which is more fundamental, universally observable to everything, is considered the starting point, then I believe the question should be: Is it possible for energy to become aware of itself, in other words, become self-conscious? And relative to first "cause," how would we as human beings, observe and measure this truth in the "effect" from our own individual experience and actions?

In pantheism, God is not a supernatural being or a miracle thing but a truth which go with the science and logic

I look pantheism as a definition for the ultimate reality, it is absolutely elegant as mathematics. There are science and poetry in Pantheism. it s a collection of ideas about the universe as an existential organism, it seems to be the sum of beings with consciousness capable of being creative ignorant, violent fearful, curious, compassionate, and blissful. It is the source that makes us to search for Truth.

I searched about my beliefs and i found out that it's called 'Pantheism', now I'm here to learn more about it.

Thank you for this thoughtful presentation. I haven't seen this school of pantheists before, and I'd be fascinated to see how they'd interact with the pagan pantheists who tend to have a much wider range of religious experiences and philosophies than the most people in the modern world are generally exposed to or take seriously. I think they'd have some very fruitful discussions. One thing I want to note is that, as far as I understand it, pantheism doesn't *exclude* ideas like gods (with a small "g") and afterlives. It simply doesn't *require* them. Pantheism is more a way of thinking about the sacred and transcendent nature of the universe than it is a specific statement about what spiritual or physical things do or do not exist. A good portion of historical world religions have been pantheistic and endorsed the existence of afterlives and gods at the same time. I think a lot of the confusion comes from the fact that Abrahamic religions use "God" with a big "G" to mean "the infinite creator and source of all things," while other religions use "god" with a small "g" to refer to specific types of limited, finite spiritual entities. Most historical religions have had concepts of BOTH a God with a big "G," or a sacred and transcendent source or fabric of all things AND a concept of "gods" as specific spiritual entities that we share our world with. That's also where a lot of confusion about the nature of the Abrahamic God comes from, because half the time they act like their God is the infinite, transcendent Source of everything and half the time they act like he's a finite, limited god who experiences jealousy and anger and gets really mad when people don't follow his somewhat arbitrary rules. I'm actually a little curious about why there aren't more Abrahamic pantheists. About half of their teachings are pantheist (and some of Jesus' statements are REALLY ESPECIALLY pantheist when you reread them after learning about pantheism), but I guess they feel a need to maintain separation between their concept of God and their concept of the world. Long story short, pantheism won't STOP you from getting a personal afterlife. It won't guarantee one either because it makes no specific statements about the matter, but it won't stop you from having one. :P

Yes, sure, "there is a problem of Evil for a pantheist (...)" and this problem is called Humanity.

Pantheism : Create your own Reality. Nice and Comfortable. :-) So close your eyes and choose your own version, and be Happy.

i am just amazed that this show on youtube has so little views per video....for so deep conversations, this should indirectly "tell" me something?!?

Baruch Spinoza & Karl Christian Friedrich Krause would smile and say well we told you so, actually you have to dig deeper until you understand panentheism than you could try to understand God!

I was surprised by the lack of clarity on the part of the educated philosophers interviewed. They did not articulate their ideas very clearly at all. I do believe in the possibility of a pantheistic view in a sense. That all of creation is conscious, a kind of super consciousness and we are a part of that consciousness. There is no God in the traditional sense in my view, only consciousness and spiritual awareness is growth in awareness of this reality. That all is one, infinite and good. Evil comes from the actions of people who live in separation, who do not feel connected are not conscious of the connection and are perhaps damaged in some way by life's experience. There is no mystery to the origins of evil. It's just a product of a kind of human dysfunction.

I am a panentheist. God is personal, both transcendent and immanent. The universe is within the womb of God.

Good and evil in Pantheism: good is that which values life in and of itself, and evil is that which ignores the divine nature of life (wasting it, making it suffer unnecessarily, etc.). If you want, you can go a more biological route, too. Good is that which maintains complexity and stability (because in ecology, the two go hand in hand); and evil is that which reduces complexity and stability. We are ever increasing in complexity and stability as years pass. Cooperation, reliance and interconnection are what have allowed beings such as ourselves to exist, composed of more non-human cells than human ones, who every day eat lifeforms that become quite literally part of us, and who are only just beginning to be capable of reflecting on this awe-inspiring process that brought us here. To infinity! Excelsior!

The world is a mode of God as it is conceived through God.

Why there is no mystery, because we are discovering and understanding each and everything day by day, year by year.

We'll never find the highest absolute-truth in this realm, which makes after-life more mysterious than life because who knows, we'll find the answer there-but for now, let's just enjoy this life while respecting the peace and the happiness of others.

God is both, a person and the spark of consciousness in everything and everyone. All of the creation lives in the mind of God and is animated with God's breath.

God is everything and everything is God and there is nothing else. God cannot create anything beyond it’s self because beyond God doesn’t exist,everything that is is within God.

If there is a God, it should not be so illusive. If you're a father, you won't hide from your children. You WANT them to know and see you.

In the beginning there was no world. Then out of nothing came Something, and that Something was God. God was all that is and All That Is was God. But God wanted more. There needed to be a World, an existence of many rather than one. And so God split himself into parts, and those parts became the world. Now each World-Part had it's own Self, which was part of God but also made separate. Because of this we are independent, but also therefore limited. Thus, each Part of God can only act according to it's limitations and so conflicts can arise; and that is why evil has come to be.

Is it me or doesn’t this sound like Shinto where Kami is energy and Kami is in everything and everywhere

Sanatani hindus believe that the physical world is just a part of god and that god transcends beyond this physical world. Like consciousness. We call it shiva

Most answers are found in the conglomerate of Hindu Philosophies too. From atheism to theism to polytheism and pantheism. Besides being pure energy God is also pure consciousness. He, She, or simply It exists and animates the whole Universe and its conscious life forms. It is both the manifest universe as well as the unmanifest. So what is Its purpose in creation? They vary from a dream play of It (Brahman) of its own as in Advaita (illusion) to a specific purpose of raising entities believed sentient but lost in the vast darkness (Saiva Siddhantam). Souls an infinite number as darkness Itself. So God violates the darkness in Its Absolute Love in Pure consciousness to bring these entities into being so that they may evolve in love to become just like It. Evil or for the matter even good is an illusion stemming from this darkness of ignorances of a sort. This latter philosophy is deemed a Divine Pedagogical play. The former is mere Self Play. The individual entities that realize this within not without as in the physical creation will come to this conclusion in the many experiences of life's journey. Becoming absolute Love themselves in total unity with the Universe aka Divine Itself. That is Moksha or Final Liberation.

Been trying to get a better idea of Who I Even Am? For the longest time now this Is the closest I gotten. Hated the concept of relying on a Monotheistic Concept done threw the Church if I always felt more connected outside of the Church. So I kind of inbetween calling myself a Spiritual Animistic Pantheist

I respect the efforts being made here, but there seems something parochial about this line of questioning re the nature of God. It's the baggage of anthropocentrism based in Judeo-Christian assumptions. I'm constantly asking myself... are philosophers of much more advanced civilisations elsewhere throughout the cosmos, asking the same kinds of questions?

Pantheism doesn't have to deal with the issue of evil because what is evil? Nature just is, good and evil are qualities we assign. I do think there is however some intrinsic relation in nature between good and growth, and evil and destruction, poles of the same spectrum.

Wonderful discussions. I could learn about pantheism. Thanks, Mr Kuhn

No pantheist ever advocated God being the world. If that were true, there would be a trillion trillion gods in the universe. It's the universe itself that is God in pantheism.

The host says Pantheism can’t offer an afterlife. He doesn’t know that consciousness is indeed independent of the brain. Out of body experiences has shown again and again that we can exist outside of our bodies. All consciousness is all part of “God”. We are eternal. But this gets into Reincarnation, and that’s another subject. Peace. ✌️🙂

The only question that matters is this; Is it possible to “stumble upon” “Truth” by looking into one’s own reflection? “How” or “why” or “when” will my own echo tell me all of the secrets of existence? Will I be aware, can I be aware that I’m really just talking to myself?

We are god the world is god and we as a collective came together to create this world and us in gods image…

On the second last conversation: I don’t think you simply add the sticker of God to the natural world and signs by endorsing pantheism. Instead you unite those things with the realms of philosophy, spirituality, religion etc. If it is a sticker it is a uniting sticker surely?

"Basic mystery of agency here which we don't understand" is a very good way to put it. It sounds like "God" is the sum of possibilities of Existence trying to realize itself into actual things. However, the very term "God" at this point seems counterproductive. Although more cumbersome, "Mystery of Existence" is a better way to describe it.

'God is everything & everything is God' / "Arguments that explain everything... explain nothing." Christopher Hitchens.

Richard Swinburne made a fantastic point at 24:48 .

a beautiful programme as usual.

“Your task is not to seek for God, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” ― Rumi

The third interview subject seems to be conflating pantheism with panpsychism. But the fourth guy was spot on. The others were interesting but weren't really talking about pantheism as it's typically understood. The fourth interview subject described it accurately.

In Pantheism the world is God,to a person I am part of the world therefore I am God (ego),of all the creation stories of unrelated civilisations, can God create himself or the herd?In the Universe exist Dark Matter which scientist have yet been able to describe but knows exist.It leaves our understanding of the world so much so incomplete.Then God is indescribable. To little to develop a philosophy to deny a theistic God.Mathematically reducing God in to a formula is like alchemy of the middle ages and alchemy never got anyone anywhere..This is a great show.Thank you!

I've always liked Spinoza's perspective. I also quite like what I interpret to be Wittgenstein's - that there is some ineffable quality to the world - or at least our experience of the world - that inspires deep awe and reverence, and though this quality is beyond language, it is still somehow expressed in its showing (and since music is a core part of my life, I would add playing) ... ... and I agree with the others here who express a great fondness for this channel, for - even though I often disagree, esp wrt much of the religiosity - this fondness is one I share.

The quest for truth is what defines this civilization.......

I am a pantheistic Muslim. In the tradition of Sufism everything is God. Everyone is God. Fa'ainama tuwallu wajhullah. Wherever you face (externally or internally) it's all God. Laa ilaaha illallah. Nothing is here. Only God is here. Nothing exists. Only God exists. Infinite Love is the only truth. Everything else is illusion. This Sufism came from Alhalaj, Syaikh Abdul Qodir Jailani, and Syekh Siti Jenar. Allahuakbar 🙏🙏🙏

It shows our arrogance that we would personify an entity as powerful as a God.

Does anybody else get gender envy from the host? Also, one time I had a dream where God (who took the form of a small latino man) told me that we are the universe experiencing itself and that everything is god. So yeah I believe in panthiesm because my mind said it was true before I knew it existed as a religion.

Lawrence Robert Khun, thank you for your insightful shows. Could you cover a show on Islamic theology and the nature of God in Islam, and/or Kalam. It would be fascinating. Because I noticed that the Islamic conception of God is by far the strongest.

So the whole problem is about Evil. So normally we call evil what hinders us or hurt us and good that benefits us. Good and Evil are the things which are not in nature but these are our creation. Creation of our mind. Whenever we talk about good and evil we are doing a comparison. There is no absolute good and evil in WORLD.

0:40 I sometimes drink in the Bull Ring Tavern. If I’d seen Robert walking past I’d have called him in and bought him a pint!

The range of possibilities, or Logos, or Akashic Record, or as in the Bible, it's called the Word, and it is with god. Even in the Bible, when asked by Moses of "His" nature... the reply was "I am, that I am". If the eternally infinite multiverse IS God, then it is conscious through us and other possible beings. Evil is a human creation, and god's personhood may be a continuum of all possible "persons". Remember, true infinity, like absolute zero, or lightspeed, can never be reached, only eternally approached. Until recently, through this program, I learned of the word pantheism, and it's meaning. It seems to best fit ideas I've felt were true throughout my life... thank you for that. Just having the word to encapsulate the concept has streamlined my thoughts.

If there is free Will, there is no God. If there is God, there is no free Will. Except that God and Free Will are the same.

Advaita Vedanta compatible with Spinoza's philosophy, and as to the author's desire for what may be called personal salvation, (even with an afterlife), there's room for that in the works of Shankara. Thus, one can be a Panetheist and a believer in an after-physical life. In any event, one can tap into the all-pervasive Absolute nature of the Universe (Sat-Chit-Ananda) by listening to "Mahamritunjaya Mantra - Sacred Sounds Choir", and "Om Namah Shivaya - Shivananda Adi" Listen to each for 5 min per day for two weeks and enjoy experiencing your own nondual identity as "One" with Pure Consciousness.

One may define believing in God,how one well,but if personality is not there,the definition is inadequate (Hegel )

Can we have an episode which examines the possibility of Pandeism, specifically?

The material world no more represents the totality of God's being than your own thoughts and dreams represent the totality of your being. However, if one looks into Panentheism as opposed to Pantheism, then one will not only find that which is inherent in Pantheism, but also that which is inherent in the Abrahamic religions regarding the existence of the sentient and self-aware "I Am-ness" of a personal God to whom the material world belongs (again, just as your own thoughts and dreams belong to you).

I always think that panentheism makes more sense but even with that it gets complicated as to the boundary of reality .for example in a multiverse and one universe created another,as black holes possibly do,is the boundary the created universe or the multiverse?if the latter then hard panentheism and pantheism are effectively the same.

Pantheism is the closest to truth.

This content and knowledge is absolutely amazing. Thank you so much

The concept of God is defined by humans. There have been many different concepts of God from the different peoples on earth and also throughout history, all explained by humans to humans. I am comfortable defining God as everything, as pantheists do. But I really don't see the need for a concept of God. I believe in everything I can see or can sense. Everything that exists undeniably exists and I am happy with that. Humans cannot comprehend infinite space or time and certainly we cannot comprehend how or when the universe started, but we do know that it is here and it's OK to accept that, period.

Quantum mechanics, and specifically the Higgs particle, argue for Pantheism. As each particle is a density of energy, then each particle is a manifestation of an underlying energetic reality, an energetic Being. Everything, then, resides with the "bucket of Being." My personal experience, however, says that this Absolute ground of Being is personal in its own way.

9:15 The red head guy, when he speaks reminds me of the priest in the princess bride. Mawage, Mawage is that bwessed awangement that bwings us togetha today"

What about existence and evolution being a process whereby God is becoming conscious of Itself through Time? That’s what makes sense to me.

One true god: the universe and existence. Pantheism. 🌍☀️🌙⭐🌈🪐🌲🌹

There is no mystery in the world! Mystery is only for those who do not understand the common sense.

Personally I could never resign myself to one certain belief but if I had a guess it would be pantheism.

What these people left out is that the Universe includes our consciousnesses. I would say further that everything has consciousness to varying degrees. We and everyone and everything is Source, or Supreme Being. Individualized. Experiencing itself. Peace ✌️

Thank you for doing what you do

I believe in pantheism ( best of all at least according to me)

I think The problem is that we try to describe God in 3d... He is the word.

The narrator: "This idea doesn't feed my ego. So, no."

I like Robert, a pitty he doesn't buy the most credible version of God! One is left wondering if he really wants to get Closer to Truth!

Birth & death are a transitory, but yet "fixed" moment in time/space. They are "flipsides," to an identical coin.

WHO AM I ? FOR THE SAKE OF A NEW STORY .. I AM THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS MADE INTO SPIRIT, BLESSED WITH THE TEN COMENDMENTS IN COUNSCIOUS AND I DWELL IN THE HOLY SPIRIT. BEYOND THAT I HAVE FULL CONCIOUSNESS WITH POWER OVER THE SPIRIT...

Pantheism is just another word for omnipresence

When we talk, we're using symbols to talk about referents. Sometimes, one symbol can have multiple referents-- "free speech" vs. "free beer" is maybe an example-- and of course that's a frequent problem in philosophy, where we can't always agree on which referents are in actuality different, in part because we're talking about highly abstract concepts. But other times, one referent can have multiple symbols. I appreciate the recognition here that there are multiple kinds of pantheism. However, for many kinds of pantheism, it seems to me that "pantheism" is just a different symbol for the same thing "atheism" refers to. Of course, neither symbol is preferable, any more than one language is better than another. Yet we are just as easily confused by aliased symbols as by aliased referents.

18:21 "But do you gain anything with pantheism, because maybe the physicists are saying what's correct, but that's all there is?" Nailed it.

Just what exactly is the "world"?

it seems that the idea of God , in this western society, is separate from the idea of spirituality.

How does one examine pantheism and the concept without spinoza

Pantheists matter ! Or should I say Pantheists/Matter ? Get it ?

At one time God exploded himself. A tiny part became the universe. A tiny tiny part of this explosion became angels, devils, humans, animals, trees. So we're all part of God's body (energy source). God is bigger than the universe. God is not the universe. God is the universe plus creatures plus angels, genies, devils plus humans plus all possibilities. Because we came from God. To an extent, we can say that we're all God. Thus, everyone is God. Everything is God. '

God: I am the life. I am what is.

It's more useful to ask what about God is different from the cosmos. If there's no difference Occam's razor would require that we not use two different words. But is the statement "God is the cosmos" necessary to pantheism? Maybe the cosmos considered as the sum of its parts can be "the cosmos" and there's something about it that's greater than the sum of its parts that is "God" so we need two different words.

Every single living creature is living in the singularity of a black hole filled with infinite potential of mind and consciences. We aren’t moving away from the center. We are the center drifting away from every other center of the universe because we are all moving closer to the singularity of all, the centers of all the universes and Big Bangs will one day be crammed into a space a plank length in diameter, and that right there in essence is God.

We are merely a cell that makes up a bigger collective. The infinite collective of all those conceivable "bigger" collectives is the Universal Pantheistic God.

Good and evil are moral constructs not present in Nature, who is simply indifferent, going about her own business of cyclic birth, death, and rebirth throughout the cosmos. "Tiger got to hunt/bird got to fly/man got to sit/and wonder/why why why" - Kurt Vonnegut

No. The world itself is not "God." This would be a limitation. However, the entire material universe (Maya/illusion), is both of & within the Master Conceptualizer ("God") simultaneously. So the "structure" of Maya/illusion, is an "expression" of the Unified Field & Repository of Infinite Consciousness & Possibility.