Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door Remake VIVIAN TRANS | Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door Remake Switch Reaction Walkthrough Gameplay garoshadowscale #papermariothethousandyeardoor #papermario #garoshadowscale
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@GaroShadowscale2 ай бұрын
Did you play the original?
@lipstick_pure962 ай бұрын
I did, and I still have it. I bought the remake yesterday
@kasirahman2 ай бұрын
I have never played it I only watched other people play it but I will play the Nintendo version tho
@plushmakerfan84442 ай бұрын
Yes I had😊
@blueliving98362 ай бұрын
Yes I had for a while
@RosyBramble2 ай бұрын
The original Japanese version had allusions to Vivian being Trans.
@cocheeseknox74402 ай бұрын
The Italian translation of the original also has Vivian say “I know I am a real woman.”
@ToasterLad_2 ай бұрын
i cooka da pizza
@Frostbyte_Ace-XD2 ай бұрын
@@ToasterLad_I makea da spaghetti.
@ToasterLad_2 ай бұрын
@@Frostbyte_Ace-XD i crusha da turty
@RedPoisonDragon2 ай бұрын
@@ToasterLad_perchance
@NormansWorldMovies2 ай бұрын
5
@glizzy.man692 ай бұрын
the italian translation actually keeps her gender identity and her love interest for mario
@pixellello2 ай бұрын
Hai visto pure tu il video di Mario's castle?
@glizzy.man692 ай бұрын
@@pixellello tipo due anni fà lol
@fra93ilgrande2 ай бұрын
Siiii 😍 💅🏼🔝🫰🏻💕✨🏳️⚧️
@NitroniteDragon2 ай бұрын
Wait, if that's the case... Mario must be Pansexual.
@luxaeterna3652 ай бұрын
Same with the spanish one
@Lacucarachadefuego2 ай бұрын
Vivian is Trans in paper Mario?!? Next thing you’re gonna tell me is that Birdo has been trans for the last 35 years….
@skweebwellington2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure birdo is just it's own species
@rAgeJbear1Ай бұрын
birdo is canonically trans
@gardakan8921Ай бұрын
I think it was a joke@@rAgeJbear1
@Ericspil790Ай бұрын
Bordo is literally a joke in the series. But here we are with the 41% weirdos taking it like a “trans icon”
@TemmieUnderTF2TransRightsАй бұрын
@@Ericspil790cause birdo is trans?
@rukifellth22 ай бұрын
The big question is: How does gender even work for a shadow? If gender for a shadow is a matter of self identification, that makes Beldam even more of a scumbag since if so, shadows can be whatever. Or am I overthinking a Mario species? XD
@kailynnbloodmoon12642 ай бұрын
Makes sense to me. The Three Shadows also have access to magic, so what's to stop Vivian from altering her appearance with a shape-shifting spell of some kind? Personally, the ones I think are overthinking are the ones making a big deal that she's trans. It just adds to her backstory and helps explain why her sister, Beldam, picks on her.
@KrimsonKattYT2 ай бұрын
Yeah it's pretty likely to just be self identification since shadows can likely shapeshift and change their physical form at will.
@Pr0fessorUnkn0wn2 ай бұрын
Doesn’t Vivian also kiss Mario on the cheek at the end of that chapter too or am I making stuff up
@kailynnbloodmoon12642 ай бұрын
@@Pr0fessorUnkn0wn She does.
@darkdescent89182 ай бұрын
@@Pr0fessorUnkn0wnshe does cause every female character in ttyd does
@SpecRose2 ай бұрын
The thing with the original japanese version is that Vivian refers to herself as female, when other characters and sources refer to her as male, for..a few reasons. Beldam is always meant to be just an abusive bigot and a bully to Vivian, while others such as the original jp Tattle dialogue may come from less understanding of trans 20 years ago. The remake now adjusts some things to a more accurate translation and adding onto it making it more clear with having a better understanding of it all now.
@HunsterMonter2 ай бұрын
Exactly, people like to say "but the games says she's a man" without understanding that maybe 2000's Japanese game devs didn't have a spectacular understanding of trans issues. Regardless of the intentions of the devs, they put in an AMAB character who identifies as a woman i.e. a trans woman
@mr.chinglemitts2 ай бұрын
W beldam
@tranidite2 ай бұрын
@@mr.chinglemittsHow original. Wanna add the S number for an extra 4.99?
@SunnyMitten2 ай бұрын
SO IT WAS A TOMBOY. 😂
@shade-anubis57472 ай бұрын
To my knowledge Vivian was described as a male that liked to dress female (Crossdresser) in the original Japanese
@Stone_Yoshi_32 ай бұрын
*How are shadows even transparent? We can clearly see them.*
@FireFoxxoboi696 күн бұрын
*insert crickets.mp3*
@xaviermeyer6602 ай бұрын
Wait until people see birdo...
@taylorsanada3180Ай бұрын
or Crona from the anime Soul Eater
@cinnamoone35532 ай бұрын
in retrospect, the new translation is actually much closer to the original ITALIAN translation, where she specifically comments that she feels like a woman and is proud of it, despite the persecution of her sisters. so this isn't new, just finally being spread globally.
@CR1MSONACE2 ай бұрын
"In the original Gamecube version" I think you mean "In the English and German gamecube versions".
@Typical_OneShot_fan2 ай бұрын
Niko?
@josecorzo5517Ай бұрын
Niko from the not so known indie game OneShot?
@davidbrow3086Ай бұрын
He literally says "at least in the English and German localizations."
@Buzzblade1462 ай бұрын
Finally, Vivian and Madeline can recreate that one handshake meme
@samlewis6487Ай бұрын
Here's the thing. It's not "new dialog." It's just a correct translation
@fraidybat123Ай бұрын
“There’s a big controversy right now” No, there isn’t. There’s the people who understand the fact that this is canonically more accurate to the original as well as impactful for Vivian’s character, and the people who are afraid of change and anything different from them.
@plushmakerfan84442 ай бұрын
She’s my girl
@Emma-Mountebank2 ай бұрын
I love her too. My favorite Partner from Paper Mario 2 :D
@shriderrad4123Ай бұрын
"He"
@plushmakerfan8444Ай бұрын
@@shriderrad4123 in Japanese not in are contrary
@burritobison7700Ай бұрын
@@shriderrad4123in the Japanese it’s she
@lezabellalime521Ай бұрын
@@shriderrad4123 BIGOT😂❤
@dii4741Ай бұрын
So heres the thing about transgender and anything LGBTQ in Japan, they don't have a word for it. In the original, they had even less words for it. Otokonoko is a word to basically generalize the queer community, it can mean effeminate (optionally gay) man, trans woman, or simply a cross dresser. It's a word often used by characters who describe people in that position, but there is no distinction between those 3/4 labels under that one word. But through other dialogue, its pretty clear that Vivian is the transgender part of the Otokonoko label
@Cheese-Slime-Sheriff2 ай бұрын
This actually isn’t new… it’s just the original Japanese TRANSlation, it was censored by most other countries though
@IcedCube03102 ай бұрын
He said that in the video 🤦🏻♂️
@victoriamitchell4132 ай бұрын
@@IcedCube0310 lok at the capital LETERS
@snickrdoodle_skywalker2 ай бұрын
*Seinfeld bass guitar*
@fxvenny74662 ай бұрын
For Hooktail they also changed Cricket to frog if I’m not wrong. I mean smart move who gets poisoned eating crickets
@ultrawinggaming97642 ай бұрын
It was actually frogs in the original japanese release too.
@clutchbridge2 ай бұрын
I heard it was originally a specific type of frog that only exists in Japan, so when they localized the game to English audiences, they just tried to pick an animal we would've heard of that sounded kinda like the sound effect.
@smugsuphia784619 күн бұрын
Come to think of it, the sound effect in the GameCube version does sound more like a frog than a cricket
@SchbloingusАй бұрын
no way people are mad about this.
@TheDizzieCАй бұрын
People got be mad at anything but what's materially hurting them.
@ShadowmancerLordАй бұрын
Right wing people are always mad about trans representation.
@samlewis6487Ай бұрын
Bigots be bigots
@waterking74Ай бұрын
Clout snorting mostly
@Xenomnipotent2 ай бұрын
A line in the Japanese script; "それに じつは アタイ・・・ 体は オトコのコだけど ココロは カワイイ オンナのコなの" "The thing is... I... I have a boy's body, but my heart is a cute girl's!" (using feminine first person pronouns)
@Xenomnipotent2 ай бұрын
'B-but Vivian is a crossdresser. He's a man!' Nope. Vivian is degradingly called 'otokonoko' by Beldam. Otokonoko has two meanings depending on the kanji used: 男の子 = boy 男の娘 = male daughter / crossdresser / femboy However, in SPM it is written in katakana (オトコノコ) which could mean either, but the first meaning (boy) is SIGNIFICANTLY more common and it can be reasonably inferred to be saying 'boy'. The second one is a pun and only really used in niche circles. It is also important to note that 'otokonoko' is only used by Beldam, who the story frames as an antagonist and awful person for mistreating Vivian (e.g., Vivian introduces themselves as the 3 shadow sisters. Beldam insults Vivian for using the word sisters, stating that she's a boy, and forcing her to apologize). So even if it were using the second definition, it would be completely meaningless since Beldam is constantly shown by the narrative itself to demean Vivian and not respect her identity. Other characters, as well as Vivian herself, describe her as a woman and use feminine pronouns when mentioning her. TL;DR, Vivian is trans. Cope.
@Xenomnipotent2 ай бұрын
"O-oh yeah? The JP script also has the line 'He may look like a girl, but he's actually a boy.' That CONFIRMS Vivian is a man for sure!" Nope. This quote is used as a 'gotcha!' as if this isn't just a way to convey the message that Vivian is MtF to the audience in 2004. Do you really expect Japan to use and explain the meaning ofトランスジェンダー in 2004 when that wasn't even a word commonly used in America at the time? The simple fact is, Vivian self-identifies as a girl despite being born “male”, and the word for that in our language, which the *author does not have control or authority over* is “transgender woman”. At that point, it really doesn’t matter that the narrator says. TL;DR, Vivian's direct statements on her identity overwrite ALL other statements about her identity. It is really that simple. Cope.
@Xenomnipotent2 ай бұрын
"W-well even if Vivian is a trans woman, it adds NOTHING to the story! It's just woke pandering!" Nope. Vivian being trans IS a huge part of her character and overall story. Her being bullied over her identity is what causes her to leave the Shadow Sirens and join Mario as an ally. Also, her being trans definitely adds subtext to a chapter all about Mario literally having his body taken from him and having friends turning on him, to the point where he couldn't even say his own name so he has to steal it back. TL;DR, Trying to downplay Vivian being trans is downplaying the themes of the story and the entire character itself. Cope.
@Badgerpaw2 ай бұрын
@@Xenomnipotent Sticker Star also calls her an otokonoko.
@kayakat1869Ай бұрын
Thats a really cute description of her.
@Fun.yАй бұрын
"Oh yeah i like-a train choo choo"
@isaacmusic938Ай бұрын
Beldam speech bubble
@apersonontheinternet8354Ай бұрын
True true
@Krishavoc142 ай бұрын
In a nutshell Nintendo did it before it was cool
@furkanspider26132 ай бұрын
Yes because Nintendo knows best
@oscarwillimott92962 ай бұрын
@@furkanspider2613 *sometimes*
@furkanspider26132 ай бұрын
@@oscarwillimott9296 nah trust me :) (help, I am held at gunpoint by the Nintendo ninjas)
@DavidHerrera-vb1qx2 ай бұрын
now trans are cool?
@uno99152 ай бұрын
It was never cool
@Jano1998Ай бұрын
Vivian was always Trans in the original Japanese version. It got censored on US Markets and Europe.
@mcdjdeath2 ай бұрын
In my opinion this is a rare moment of uncensorship
@Kaylee-Bear2 ай бұрын
I genuinely dont care if Vivian is trans. Vivian is Vivian. Shes a good character either way
@JustNormalGreenKirby2 ай бұрын
Me too.
@FurryestXАй бұрын
True
@Jess-iq1bwАй бұрын
Well said
@gibsonjean70Ай бұрын
Facts
@NodRiderАй бұрын
Fans of the original game already knew this, even though it was never mentioned in game itself in the US. Other regions still touched on it, and it's not new controversial news. It was actually pretty progressive for the time
@Cubal5Ай бұрын
For a bit of details, the french version of Beldam in TTYD (gamecube) literally says "What are you talking about ?? You are a BOY." (boy us in red btw.) After Vivian says "Three shadow sisters !".
@BDuncan321Ай бұрын
the italian og had her explicitly trans lol
@jlchipsАй бұрын
If I remember correctly, one of the translations said something like "She used to be a man, but now she's a woman and proud of it!"
@Yuri_the_DragonАй бұрын
yeah that was the Italian one
@AshleyPerson-b2m24 күн бұрын
Vivian, Birdo, Madeline and Bridget all come from some of my favourite games for definitely no reason at all nuh uh nope nuh (transfemme egg panic intensifies…)
@AshleyPerson-b2m24 күн бұрын
For the record I am not a trans egg. I am just transfemme. Today is actually my 4th year on estrogen! :3
@fullmetalgamer6062Ай бұрын
Mario is tolerant. He'll accept anyone and anything at face value. He treats anyone and anything with dignity and respect. He has seen too many things in his travels to be narrow-minded.
@andrewzaharias18582 ай бұрын
In English, it's new In other languages it's the normal dialogue
@sophieamandaleitontoomey93432 ай бұрын
I don’t really see what the big deal is for the people complaining. It’s not like this confirmation changes the character journey of Vivian. She’s still the underdog and black sheep of her family, is constantly bullied and belittled by her older sister, isn’t really as down with the evil plans as they are, and ultimately decides to join Mario’s party because of his kindness to her when he had no name or body. And her decision to come back after she learns the truth about him still works. Like nothing about the character redemption has changed. The character still has the same journey. She’s still the same lovable party member she was in 2004. What’s the big deal?
@SparkaladinАй бұрын
I played the old paper, mario, religiously, and vivian was always my favorite, so I see vivan as her since I was using the western version it's crazy how 20 years something originally not accepted at all is widely accepted today
@T0B3573R2 ай бұрын
That’s so cute. Vivian is such nice transgender representation.
@pip22142 ай бұрын
omori pfp!!!
@NoDefinitiveAnswersАй бұрын
Omori pfp is appreciated
@GrayLazarАй бұрын
It's a shadow.
@pip221416 күн бұрын
@@GrayLazar a trans one! :3
@GrayLazar16 күн бұрын
@@pip2214 yeah
@1BeautifulDuck2 ай бұрын
Uh, okay? Why the hell are people mad it's just a game lmao
@GRIZZYBEAR82 ай бұрын
Do not think that the company supports you, the company wants money and the dirtiest way to earn it is by exploiting people’s issues and problems
@GRIZZYBEAR82 ай бұрын
I don't care about your gender or your interests, but if you like your case to be exploited by companies, then you are weak
@UltraPlasmaMan2 ай бұрын
Uh, okay? Why the heck are people okay with that you’re not meant to switch the gender you’re born with lol
@ecs3002 ай бұрын
@@UltraPlasmaManbro accidentally became supportive
@gametugboat39852 ай бұрын
because of the idea that its a retcon. when i didnt know it wasnt a retcon i was kinda uneasy about it feeling like politics (you can claim it isnt but because of us politics nature its become a political topic) were being put into a game 20 years after its releace retconing a character. however now that i realise its not a retcon i dont have an issue with it.
@sorenolaf2081Ай бұрын
There was a scraped potion shop seller concept in skyward sword where it was a pair of twins. They were both dressed in pretty outfits with one being noted as "wishes he was born a woman" and the other just being born a woman
@malaiseneo2 ай бұрын
yes yes yes, they made it cannon in the English versions too! finally
@therethan-family12342 ай бұрын
And also in the german version. But that is literally a single line and everything else stayed the same. You could literally miss it.
@adora_was_taken2 ай бұрын
@@therethan-family1234 there's another added line early on in chapter 2, but yeah it's pretty low key
@dodo-uz4ct26 күн бұрын
SMASH! What's next?
@CasualScoutАй бұрын
Honestly, I don't understand why so many people make things like this such a big thing nowadays. It shouldn't matter what a fictional character's gender is. Just play the game and have fun. 😭
@KyuubiMoon2 ай бұрын
People need to grow up and accept that trans people can & will exist, also Vivian was trans in the original japanese version. So her being trans is nothing new.
@KokonutOil2 ай бұрын
We let my sister be trans. We loved her regardless. Guess what? She doesn't exist anymore because her mind was poisoned by lies that we all believed were "healthy." That day was when I grew up
@Willlowxb232 ай бұрын
Why are people going crazy about this?
@breakinglegsandbreakinghea31672 ай бұрын
Noooo how dare people be themselves
@MrLinkkid2 ай бұрын
Good thing I rarely have to use it then.
@evan649152 ай бұрын
@@Willlowxb23 Gamers (derogatory)
@bastianokamiro54212 ай бұрын
Vivian its cute and lovely, there is no more to argue and just accept it ❤️
@professorcraze55592 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter weather or not she's trans, she's the best girl
@rohayaismail37082 ай бұрын
Im transphobe but not like demonic one but kr blade has the funniest secondary rider
@JustNormalGreenKirby2 ай бұрын
@@professorcraze5559 Yes, Vivian is the best girl.
@PGeWSoDcBCMcLFSFFaFGBcBlTpPАй бұрын
@@professorcraze5559 *He
@NoNo-bg8oc2 ай бұрын
This is an issue Ive been passionate about for awhile. To my knowledge the japanese version has: The sisters mocking and being transphobic* to vivian multiple times. This was changed to her being mocked for being prettier than them in the english version. Goombella states explicitly that vivian is male, vivian shows visible discomfort (cries) when referred to as such. Her little speech at the end of the game focuses on this, thanking mario for accepting her for who she is. (Varies slightly between all versions.) I hate censorship in media like this, and love to see more trans rep in popular media. I didn't think paper mario ttyd would ever get a remake partially because of this, and when it was announced I thought there was no way they'd ever fix it. Im very happy to be wrong. *I believe Sticker Star refers to her as an "Otokonoko", which is slightly different from transgender for complicated reasons that don't translate well to other languages, so they are usually localized as the same. This is why the Goombella line didn't make it to certain versions including the remake; in english it would be considered disrespectful to out Vivian, so she gets to reveal that herself. The same doesn't necessarily apply to Otokonoko. If someone has a better understanding of this Im happy to learn more, but the point is she identifies as a woman, she's not a crossdresser and for the sake of our culture she is transgender.
@KrimsonKattYT2 ай бұрын
Otokonoto in Japan is basically a mix of a cross dresser and trans female, since the two (and male homosexuality in general) are often conflated. It's really complicated and I'm not japanese so I can't really give good detail.
@Funnibunny732 ай бұрын
Honestly this just makes me like this character more, glad to see some reputation
@RyanBlazeheart2 ай бұрын
that's been known since the early 2000's its not exactly new
@slikkadalikkaАй бұрын
Alternatively: She is cis female and Beldam is just that cruel that she viciously bullied her into thinking she was a boy because she refused to let her refer to herself as a sister. With what limited dialogue we have to work with, it can be interpreted either way. However the fact that Beldam makes a point of shouting at Vivian for referring to the trio as the "Shadow Sisters" on the basis that they should be "The Three Shadows", because "'Sisters' makes us sound less mysterious... and less scary!" She doesnt say they arent sisters, just thay Vivian is stupid for using a less scary name for the trio. She even refers to Vivian as being "sappy" for enjoying being referred to us her sister. So either Beldam is a Bully, or a Transphobe. And I dunno if Nintendo would be up for having an actual transphobic character (even a villain, although she does get redeemed in the ending) in one of their licensed IPs. It seems a bit too heavy for a mario game
@Arcana_zero_studios2 ай бұрын
*New*, hah, yeah right . . .
@LeGnocchiАй бұрын
I'm French and it seemed obvious to me, I didn't know it was censored in other versions!
@gabrielboudjema40762 ай бұрын
We stan trans representation
@agilecandle4282 ай бұрын
I mean they have been doing that since SMB2 cause Birdo is also Trans
@gabrielboudjema40762 ай бұрын
@@agilecandle428 Exactly We still stan trans representation
@schorltourmaline45212 ай бұрын
We stan trans rep, even when it's retconned! (though as someone else stated, Birdo is actually trans, and not just a femboy like Vivian).
@Xenomnipotent2 ай бұрын
@@schorltourmaline4521Beldam speech bubble
@vladi38622 ай бұрын
@@schorltourmaline4521how can someone be female and a femboy at the same time?
@KrisDreemurrOficial2 ай бұрын
Oh my god a ghost, call Luigi
@hollow.fighter9929Ай бұрын
shadow not ghost
@GasterTheMagicianАй бұрын
People are getting pressed over a trans video game character 😭
@FinalMudkip852 ай бұрын
Smash ether way
@RouxlsKaardOfficial2 ай бұрын
Whoa, HOLD UP 🤨📸
@MilenaMcDonald2 ай бұрын
Fellas, is IT *G A Y* -
@gabrielboudjema40762 ай бұрын
LMAO
@aaronordonez44582 ай бұрын
I'm agree
@darsterz20 күн бұрын
based
@DollyBelladonna2 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter I still love Vivian, she's an awesome character and super cute ❤
@user-rb5dk2or9t2 ай бұрын
we couldnt just be happy about a remake??
@dozy36422 ай бұрын
No, keep that bs away from games
@losalphaenterprises2 ай бұрын
@@dozy3642 It's been there since 2004 tho
@ForestFurgirl062 ай бұрын
@@dozy3642birdo is trans
@alfasilverblade2 ай бұрын
@@ForestFurgirl06 Birdo is a Dragqueen
@Thatcooldude_King2 ай бұрын
@@alfasilverblade nope, in birdos debut game she's referred to as a male then later she was referred to as a female
@phacey44442 ай бұрын
I was concerned before about how'd they'd handle it in the remake, but sounds like they did it right
@thephantomspectator4072 ай бұрын
Are we REALLY still getting so hung up on this issue almost a quarter of the way through the 21st century?! Our species has grown from eating fleas off each other's butts to splitting the atom and walking on the moon! What the actual fluff?! We have watched our planet grow old; isn't it high time we, as a species, finally GREW UP?!?🤯 Love is Love in any shape or form, and both a desperate need and inalienable right of EVERY living thing! Is that pure and simple truth really so hard to accept and honor...?!🥺💔
@SmollRuby2 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. Kinda hope your comment will remain the top comment
@OrpheasVIPC2 ай бұрын
Like a certain spiteful god once said "Mortals keep making the same mistakes and never learn"
@GaroShadowscale2 ай бұрын
Very true and well said! Thank you so much
@Shonin232 ай бұрын
W mans
@declanhickie1394Ай бұрын
It’s not “new dialogue” it’s just uncensored as in Japan she was trans. But they censored it in English.
@Sly88FryeАй бұрын
I remember hearing about this change from another video. But I like the way you explain things here
@GaroShadowscaleАй бұрын
Thank you
@felixtc8344Ай бұрын
Good for her
@NotDream662 ай бұрын
Happy that it’s being represented in the remake
@NamuretaaАй бұрын
In the japanese original version, it's pretty much discussed that she is trans: it starts right before the first shadows sirens fight where they introduce themselves and Vivian accidentally calls them "3 shadow sisters" instead of "shadow trio", to which Beldam responds with "how are we 3 sisters?!? You're a boy aren't you?" (JP: どうが三姉妹だよ あんた、オトコじゃないかい!!!!!!!). When Vivian joins the team, she states "I have the body of a boy, but inside my heart, I'm a cute girl" (JP: それにじつはアタイ。。。体はオトコのコだけど、ココロはカワイイオンナのコなの).
@Deleted_EeveeАй бұрын
I mean cross dressing does commonly lead to trans awakenings
@collinpersinger48092 ай бұрын
"Oh no, a trans in my game!? Gross!" It's just a bloody game. Who cares if a character in game is trans, nonbinary, or anything around that regard. I personally don't give a damn, I just want to play a game where I fight wacky characters and enjoy it. Side note: I'm purely expressing my thoughts on this topic, in case someone thinks otherwise for some stupid reason.
@Editboyzsomeonelerksinthedark2 ай бұрын
well, there goes Undertale red and yellow.
@RouxlsKaardOfficial2 ай бұрын
He grew out of that phase. Happens to the best of us.
@GaroShadowscale2 ай бұрын
Haha sorry, I'm burnt out on Undertale, but I'm sure I'll return at some point for Deltarune Ch1 and later Ch2 before Ch3's release
@Editboyzsomeonelerksinthedark2 ай бұрын
@@GaroShadowscale yay I can’t wait for deltarune
@Editboyzsomeonelerksinthedark2 ай бұрын
@@RouxlsKaardOfficial I guess so
@shadowsonshadowson39292 ай бұрын
Respect, I want the original dialogue, even if I may not like it. (I mean that generally, not specifically here)
@gerogegerog5926Ай бұрын
I have no problem with the change frankly as it doesn’t remove much from the character
@MicahMotionАй бұрын
It adds to the character more
@gerogegerog5926Ай бұрын
@@MicahMotion exactly
@nurlanmemmedli44782 ай бұрын
İ didn't know that.Thanks for that info Garo.❤❤❤
@GaroShadowscale2 ай бұрын
Happy to help
@ArgentuTA164-22 ай бұрын
A better explanation for Japanese (since meta text at the time could not be trusted but culturally does in fact reference Vivian's trans identity but that's a whole other story) is that she calls her group the "Shadow Sisters" which is immediately followed up by Beldam calling her a man. Now, in the Switch's Japanese, she at one point says "I may have the body of a man, but my heart is a cute girl's!". All localizations of the scene where Beldam berates Vivian are now gender-neutral, saying "Shadow Trio" or "Three Shadows" because "'Shadow Sisters' isn't as menacing".
@ShadowmancerLordАй бұрын
It was never Shadow Sisters. It was Shadow Sirens, which definitely sounded way cooler.
@theultimitelifeform8548Ай бұрын
I’m honestly so happy with this. I remember hearing about Vivian way back in middle school and it made me sad to see her story censored. And now the remake finally tells the whole story and I’m really happy
@DeltabolsterАй бұрын
arguably not new dialogue just original dialogue that was finally translated
@crotoxyofthedeep3357Ай бұрын
In france there wasnt any censoring in the original but in the remake its lightly less obvious weirdly enough
@KuruigoАй бұрын
Brother in any version of the original game apart from the us release it was said they were trans
@gamidinaemkara828Ай бұрын
The original japanese release implies this too its been part of the game since it was made. This isnt some kind of new thing, the original guide book also implies vivian being trans, its also implied that's why beldam is so mean to her for no apperant reason other than being siblings
@VancieBoi2 ай бұрын
they were always Trans tho
@jeremiaspizarro33492 ай бұрын
Bro I can’t wait for the 100% of ttyd remake
@savionhastings-ward492 ай бұрын
girl we been knew
@jumentoqueanima2 ай бұрын
Great Short as always! :D
@GaroShadowscale2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@katarinaclaes962 ай бұрын
Very interesting 😁
@GaroShadowscale2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@katarinaclaes962 ай бұрын
@@GaroShadowscale your welcome 😁👍
@Hydro_Waterbottle2 ай бұрын
WOOOOO!!!! LETS GO TRANSFEMS!!!
@VaiLei-uk8vx2 ай бұрын
YEAHHHH WE WIN THESE
@MhiluАй бұрын
She’s just like me fr
@sarahcha7119Ай бұрын
I’m so happy they fixed it, like Oml she’s one of my fav characters
@CherryBombBlastАй бұрын
based mario the thousand year door
@newjumpcityjosh933312 күн бұрын
OMG when Grubba said SLUUUUUURP 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@user-rh7li5cj3k2 ай бұрын
Yes a new video from my favorite KZfaqr
@GaroShadowscale2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@thegreatpapyrus80972 ай бұрын
Cant be controversial if it was done in 2004! Seriously we can’t just change what was already established, sorry most English players didn’t do their research unlike you did. Besides most (OG) Paper Mario fans accept that Vivian is trans, sorry the new Mario fans cant accept what we did 20 years ago.
@nailahprincessofhokuto2024Ай бұрын
How exactly does a Shadow that only wears a hat and gloves cross dress?
@DaGamingCoreАй бұрын
It boils down to In 2004, the handling of trans people in media was much worse. And while Vivian is arguably treated as a joke in some original dialogue, she always saw herself as a girl. The modern dialogue adapts the story to be more respectful to trans people and makes Vivian actual trans representation done right
@Kirby_TakadaАй бұрын
Im trans too
@GBreaker.Ай бұрын
I don't care that gender she is. I still will love her anyway❤
@PronominalTerra439Ай бұрын
Hooktail is also a female but was not really referred to as female in the american version outside of like one instance
@Animationgod092 ай бұрын
I guess we will know in the next 1000
@DontCallMeYourSlime17 күн бұрын
I played all of the Poshley Height’s chapter with Vivian because my girl deserved that all inclusive 3 day train ride after what she’s been through.
@claytonmcelroy6032Ай бұрын
"SOMEWHERE IN THE ABYSS..."
@RheaRoyHunterАй бұрын
Wasn't Vivian always presented as trans in the original Japanese version of the game? 🤔🤔 Vivian being trans isn't exactly *new* information to a lot of Mario fans who are aware of what the original Japanese game is **supposed** to be translated to, the original English translation of the game just chose to intentionally censor it.
@TheAmethystAurora2 ай бұрын
This is 100% removed in the UK versions I'm sure. (Considering past translations)
@ChangedWindsАй бұрын
It kills me when "current year" people lose their mind over stuff they used to play as kids but overlooked the details back then, but call it "woke, controversial" today. Vivian was bullied by her sisters, was mocked about how different she was and how her sisters don't see her as their real sister. For people not in the know, okay benefit of the doubt. But looking at the dialog and researching the character in the early 2000's to 2010's to affirm how she is trans hurts my heart. The same thing happened when people realized the character Poison was developed to combat the "violence against women" talks, cause assaulting trans women is socially accepted. Or how Bridget wasn't a mentally confused cross dressing "trap".
@fidgety48Ай бұрын
really happy to see stuff like this :))
@samuelcruz1540Ай бұрын
The same thing happened in Spanish, I played the game in Spanish because it is my native language and I didn't like certain details of the new translation, not because Vivian is Trans, it is more faithful to the original language like that, but rather because of other aspects, such as the format in which Vivian's sisters pick on her for being "ugly" and not because she is Trans, since that would be "promoting transphobia" when what it really does is show a real problem and how it should be faced (there are people who don't accepts you for who you are, and you should stay away from them even when they are family), or the Goombas who tried to flirt in a sexist and disgusting way with Goombella, in the original game Goombella humiliates them and defends herself by showing that she is a strong character and showing to the Goombas as the pathetic ones that they are, in the translation they removed this because "it was very sexist" and they made the Goombas bother Mario and Goombella defends him, the original dialogue showed how strong Goombella is, the new one seems very stupid to me, as if Mario needed someone to defend him
@Kitkat-originalАй бұрын
They're paper
@ianbraun27113 күн бұрын
They're or They are.
@sunthorn47822 ай бұрын
What’s interesting about Vivian is that she has a similar history is Birdo. They were both created as transphobic representations of trans women (they’re often described as cross dressing men rather than with the gender they identify with), but both of them got censored in some localized versions. It’s cool to see the detail of Vivian being trans be brought back and in a much more respectful way