Your rapid descent technique style is unique!!

I see no active piloting reaction there… after a while i even started thinking that the pilot had passed out.. no appropriate weight shifting .. no outside break … no assymetric stall to sort out the cravate.. no fly back attempt… Not sure that there is any corralation between the wing and the technical level of the pilot Anyway, glad he made it out safely

Thanks for all the comments and opinions. It’s been an interesting video for me to watch, analyze and reflect on. In several years of flying I haven’t had to deal with a situation like this before so it took some time to assess and process my moves.What looks like a long period doing nothing in the video was for me not so long and seemed a pretty busy time. I knew had altitude on my side so panic was not my first option. There was 15 or 20 seconds from the initial collapse where I was out of shape and the riser was twisted before the wing stabilized into a spiral with a cravat. For the next 30 seconds and more I was fixated on clearing the cravat rather than trying to open up the spiral and fly straighter. I was trying to get hold of the stabilo line but the lines were loose and it took time to make sure I had the right line and to get hold of the single line with my gloved hand. Once I had it, it didn’t do much anyway. I passed the line into my other hand so I could get a hold of the line further up but it made no difference. I gave up on the stabilo. I was thinking then to stall. When I applied brake on the flying side with the intention of stall the cravat came out pretty abruptly before setting up into the tight spiral in the opposite direction. After that things wound back down to a less intense pace and I could take a breath and think about Christmas presents and other stuff. On reflection I could have handled the situation much better… Live and learn

With a big cravat on the right like that, pulling the stabi-line has no effekt. Just a real break input on the left will stop this. The break pulls I saw are near to no reaction. First prio is to stop the rotation. Had a similar cravat on my EnZo2 - only a strong stop on the left (nearly a full stall).

Gotta say, great fucking work!!!! You stuck with it, made it happen! Proud to see pilots who are keeping it together! Hell yes!!!

You have balls - after this problem solved - again going into this thermal, sick! I would've flown far away and would land as soon as possible... Congrats for the awesome save btw!

Terrible handling of the situation, a pilot who doesn't know the basics of stop a rotation flying an En C wing. Should be flying an En A.

A cool vid. The glider decided to spiral for him. Very intelligent glider 😊

First stop the rotation, then clear the cravat. Little imput on counter steering thats why you got the spirals

I think you were scared and were frozen. If you have had a siv training you would know that stalling was the clean solution for your right cravat. But you also did nothing about the spinning. You could correct it with your left break. After all you came healthy out of this situation. My advise try to fly with wing that has big passive safety and in calmer conditions until you get your siv course it will let you grow safely and fast. Cheers

that's a big ass dark cloud .woow the struggle is real ! Nicely done! Epic save !

Glad the pilot made it! But daaaamn I was nervous here behind my desk screaming "do something goddamit!"

c'est moi où y'a aucune réaction du pilote durant toute l'autorot ?

Thanks for sharing video - as a novice fellow pilot I appreciate any good and bad experiences for learning - to all the critical pilots you have short memories - it's not about making ourselves feel good

The whole mess could had been avoided if you were active flying. You are near a dark cloud with a hot wing and you have your hand (at least your left one) resting on the risers 1:33 . You've gotten a frontal and no reaction. If you were active flying you could immediately feel the loss of pressure and you could had pump the breaks avoiding the mess. However I have to admit that was a cool save but unnecessary.

Lost 1000 metres in the process. Height was your friend:-) Will take lots of courage to keep flying, I've seen many pilots quit after far less serious incidents. Be aware of PTSD and hopefully you have many more flights Toby. Thanks for the video!

Looks like you went from XC to acro (SAT to SAT) :-D Glad you're alive. Take a SIV for your own good, mate.

You need to actively fly your wing not sit back and look at it dancing all over the sky.

Great video. Thanks for sharing. A couple of years ago I had a really bad asymetrical collapse and violently spiralled scaring shit out of me. Now I know what I'd do differently. I'd shift body weight to the flying side to minimize the turn. Seems like this could be the case in here too, but the video doesn't show the full picture. Hope you stay safe fellow paraglider

Really glad you got it out before passing out, I was getting dizzy watching. Best to get the wing directly overhead before trying to get the tuck out. All good practice, thankfully you had plenty of height. Thanks for sharing. Catch you on the hill sometime.

As a hangglider pilot, these collapses, twists scare the heck out of me.

wow man...well done keeping your cool there. that looks pretty scary.

Lost a little more than 1000 meters while fighting that mess. I kept waiting to see the reserve tossed. Not sure how I'd have handled that. In 20 years I've never had it that bad. I guess I'd have tried for a full stall or tossed??? I can say I'd have been looking to land pretty quick after that.

great way to escape cloud suck!

thank you for sharing this lesson

THIS IS THE BEST PARAGLINDER RIGHT NOW.. TRIPLE 777 RULESS !!

what did you do to save it? pull brakes??

For starters, it's not a dangerous cloud, strong climb, yes, but how many aren't in Manila that time of year. And I rarely see a genuine reason for rapid descent manouevers (which is what caused this in the first place) - because they don't get you away from the lift source. Far better to get a fix on your direction before you lose sight of ground, then relax and concentrate primarily on pitch control, and compass heading. You will inevitably fly out the side of the cloud. But given that it happened, full stall straight away (or 'backfly' as some are calling it), only way or getting a cravat that size out.

thx for uploading!

Good save in the end. All is well that ends well. Pilot lost about 1000 mtrs in 1 min 20 seconds or so. That should be a spiral at 12.5 mtrs per second which is hmmmm not too bad considering one can do excess of 18-20 mtrs/sec depending on wing loading. Also, was less than 2 G most of the time which is pretty easy. However, with a ride like this one can easily get disoriented. Good nerves and good height helped. Noticed that no effort was made to use left brake to slow down the rotation. Guess pilot was busy trying to pump the cravat out. Also, its never really a good idea to hang around below a developed cloud. I mean whats the point?

great , bro alse you can do full stall and b stall that's whay siv for.

glad it worked out. you should do some (more?) SIV clinics

Which app do you use for information on the right side during the flight ? Thanks for answer

Nice recovery!! I'm booked in with Godfrey next weekend to do my course, Did you get trained by him?

How do you get the info on the video? Is it Garmin Virb?

yeah this is in my top 5 favorite save videos. epic, ...

The speed was way of when falling, is only the horizontal speed measured?

The autorotation spiral caused by large cravat may be varying dynamics between 2-3 G spiral like this allowing you time to stuff around with lines or it may be SAT in which case it can be rather disorientating for the uninitiated and initiated alike or it can be more extreme particularly on acro wings and throw you into the wing and lines. So. Don’t tolerate autorotation. Deploy early or backfly instantly. Don’t expect it to be a nice spiral.. it’s not ... and your options are reduced because some deployments will simply NOT WORK well NCR you allow the autorotation to build up rotational moment.

Thanks for posting.

Makes you feel alive and builds carractor and IL bet you flew the next day 😂

There’s a time and a place to practice “there is no spoon” bends with the mind… but bro. Hurling towards the ground in an autorotation is not one of them 😂

during the spiral, couldnt he just appply some left brake to exit it?

Super ! I like the frame with flight infos on the right side. How do you do that ?

1000 meters fall with no reaction by the pilot, what happened?

Holy cow dude! How long have you been flying? Great recovery! Thanks for sharing. I want to get into para gliding.

how to burn hight? Wow...

Why didn't you hold the glider? You need to fly more actively especially when you fly so close under clouds, - so you can feal and avoid such collapses.

One way to escape cloud suck!!

Will reserve chute even open in this situation?

600m save well done mate

Houston - I have a problem

All started with not with a "tuck" it is called: an asymmetric collapse, that was not handled at all. The pilot should not fly wigs like this EN-C. He needs a wing that handles everything by itself -"hands up" En-A or Low EN-B.

How do you ensure that you don't collide with someone below you, when all this is going on?

I'm glad you're okay.About the incident itself enough has been sad so I won't comment that. It's a bummer that you didn't add your current vertical speed to the HUD. How much was it before collapse? Greetings from Germany

Excellent video man! I wonder what happened to the other paraglider that was sucked by the cloud? It doesn't matter what other people say! You solved the situation pretty well and without panic. Now you know that you must react before you are sucked by a Cumulus nimbus!

Woow! buddy I will recomend you take some serious SIV course with some experts. It was complete lack of piloting and if you would be close to the ground you would be dead.

Why you just didnt pull a left breake to exit?

Back to training. Very little active piloting, sloppy big ears pulling. Good news is you didn't panic. Look into a full stall to reset when suck things happen.

wow great work. i would have thrown my rescue far sooner than that. how you managed to get that mess opened up after 100m is beyond me. very good effort.

Glad yer ok 👍🏻

Obviously I wasn't there, so I could miss something, hence my question: why did you spiraled on the half of the wing? Was it deliberate, couldnt you stop the rotation and stall the wing to try untangle it? I'm asking honestly, as a fellow 777 paraglider pilot - to learn something, not to troll:)

What kind of camera / vario do you have used? The Hud is pretty cool :) Well done that you walked away with that one...

It looks like to shorten your break lines - please reconfigure this. And the way how you hold your breaks - does not give you any feedback from the cancopy - get used to a half loop break hold. The tension of the break line between your hand will inform you about different pressure in your cancopy - so you can react and start to learn active flying. Holding the break like in the VID will bring you into more situations like this. Stay safe!

how many times did you think reserve ?

Bravo !!!

lucky bro that was close! they need to make a cut away system with a reserve parachute

Holy cow... good to know that ya fine... such clouds are sucking that an usual pilot is far beyond its skills... by taking a savety course you can get to know the "reset button" of the glider by pulling a full stall... first you will fly a full stall as a dare, later you will love doing flybacks as an ace card to recover a colapsed glider

Even with big ears, you were still going up at ~2m/s :-o But it looks as if you're more than capable of handling yourself up there. I love my Atos VQ ;-) One of the reasons I prefer hang gliding now: this kind of stuff pretty much doesn't occur... Glad you're well & safe. Happy landings Toby

I am a paramotor pilot and have never come under such situation before. But I want to know what should we do in such situation?

Yes, we saw what happened. Good thing you didn't throw the reserve. But you did lost a lot of height. I am curious, why didn't you go to full stall? Actually, you did not do much of anything. Why?

.....sei stato veramente fortunato ragazzo...molto fortunato..:-)

jeas, I only just saw this, nice video Toby. Nice spiral dive, but why give up 1000m, did you see a pub? ;-) Yeah you probably already assessed your crapy big-ears entry, can't comment on the Queen, but I know on the Artik you don't have to pull them in that violently or large, just pull them uniformly with even pressure till they both break the foil and hold them there, no need to go further, and of cause always stabilise with half bar minimum and then release. All the shit started cause you pulled in one side the second time and released it straight away so the wing shot forward. Try B-line ears instead by using the outer b-lines, but pull one at a time and stabilise. You will find the wing flys much better without massive flapping ears and it achieves the same sink rate, they also pop out straight away with no fuss, but again make sure you stabilise with half bar

little problem, great drama :-)

bloody hell mate i dont think i would fly for ahwhile after that. probably take a few days. how did your recovery go?

👏👏👏👏

I had my Queen wind up on me this summer after a frontal on full bar that went into a deep stall and cravatted on recovery. I slowed the spiral back into a tracking flight, but it took me undo the cravat that was only slightly less than this one in the deep spiral. (I wouldn't consider the video incident a slow spiral by any means.) Despite pulling a good 2-3 meters of stabilo line on the cravat in nearly to the wingtip, I could not get it to reinflate. Eventually a few good hard pumps on the brake eliminated the cravat. It seems on the Queen, in my limited experience with cravats on it, the brake pump should be the go to action first off.

Huumm, if you stay in a good thermal and you wish to came out from the thermal you have to do it against the wind direction, or you get exactly what you get, a brave collapse, second, in a emergency situation your input have to been strong and adequate, the spiral down should be stopped soion or, reserve, no way to stay with such G force very dangerous to pass out, and you did bnot apply any brake to reduce the spiral, are you shure you did not pass out? It seems so.

Well done !

At 3:23 you got to 4.9G. That is a lot. I am glad you did not pass out.

This dude should have stalled the wing as soon as the big cravat started, before entering an almost uncontrollable autorotation. Stalls are easy to recover from.

El piloto era muy frío de sangre, pero no vio una reacción muy activa.

👍🔥

Not going to lie, my heart skipped a beat at 1:35

I thought pilot was unconscious .

great spirit & skill 👍👍👍

Flying under that big cloud. Your lucky it didn't suck you up 15,000 feet

Hi Toby, first of all tnx for posting this video, it can be used as an example for some pilots, secondly I am happy that you did not have reserve ride. Now, I know that it is easier to write or speak while I am siting in front of the PC. I have few advices for you: 1. on 1:34 of video you should pump harder right brake to avoid that ,,semi-fronta,,. 2. on 1:56 of video you should brake harder (and weighshift left in your harness) left side of the wing to prevent rotation, after that, try with stabilo line to sourt out that cravate. - this is by the book. But, I had almost the same cravat also on the right side of the wing 2 years ago on my wing (Niviuk Icepeak5) and I could do notihing with stabilo line, and I did not have height to try fullstall. I have sorted out that cravat by pulling A-s and inducing asymetric collapse on the deformed side. That helped. When you get cravat next time try to induce asymetric collapse on the deformed side if stabilo won't work. If not, if you have height, do the full stall. Also, how many meters have you lost? and have you managed to get into the thermal, climb up and continue XC? Cheers and I wish you many happy flying hours Konstantin PS Don't worry about some posts, everyone made few mistakes in the past, especially including me :D

FULL STALL PLZZZ, Maybe you were blacked out?

What are other option to safe your self in such condition.. A knife n other parachute... Aur nothing.. aur it's just one parachute.. that flying with . Knife to cut the rope n second parachute to open.. in option He is good pilot n daring n cool mind guy who handle the situation.

Spiral wasn't even that bad, kept under 3G. Except for the last "short" one in the different direction. Well done... I get taught to throw reserve when tangled and spiral starts, but hey!

What HUD is this?

Que M! Ainda bem que tava alto. Paraglider é.muito perigoso.

Awesome! Compliments!!! Great job, lad!

Far out man, what a crappy situation to have faced whilst competing ( were you or just flying at that site)?.. And the fact you were almost 15000 feet is crazy man! And you only lost about 3000 something feet trying to fix it, so I was really impressed by your composure and ability to remain calm with enough altitude to have safely keep trying before you needed to throw that handle haha Well done mate, Stella effort! I still haven’t flown there yet, I’m near Port Macquarie so we have about 15 fly sites all close by, and like another 20 or so within an hours drive, but I was bummed this year it was canceled, was really looking forward to finally flying there. Once again, great Video mate, great job at recovering a massive mess that your wing turned into 👊🏼

Bravo!

I would thrown my reserve after the first couple rotations, didn’t look like the collapse would come out. Obviously have lots of experience though, I literally just got my P2 and have only had two mountain flights so far

Full speed bar would have been better then this crazy ride

Super and great pilot!! Congrat!!!

cravate est égale décrochage ;)

Imagine crashing because you tried to pull ears?!?!