I haven't seen mine in 14 years and their grown so there isn't much hope for my situation. It's exactly like experiencing a death of your child over and over! ❤ stay strong and resilient!

I found a similar situation in my ex’s family. PA is generational.

I'm living through this right now

This is my life and it's horrible. I'm so sorry youre going through this

@ygmitch09 me too. Cps empowers psycho grandma's and encourages incest. Very weird. This woman wanted my babies for herself and found a way to do it. That's a psychopathic person who shows no remorse. The only remedy is through the law

Narcissistic people are always triangulating. They never stop triangulating and it carries on forever.

"child abuse" DOES NOT MATTER until proven by recordings, texts, witnesses, etc. "Therapists" = pseudo-science QUACKS. Forget the children, traumatized or happily hateful - Parental Alienation is about KIDNAPPING, denial of PARENTAL RIGHTS. Victimization, or not, comes from the REACTION to adversity, and is not intrinsic to the "abuse." My children (older teens) became vocal about my monstrosity as Covid lockdown interrupted my diligently followed possessions over ten years since divorced. I knew they hid doctors names and school ID numbers, and that their DIAGNOSED Personality-Disordered mother probably interrogated them, but CORRECTLY thought the Family Court unlikely to do anything about such trifles. Boy, was that correct - Courts can't even handle obvious (9 denied possessions?) Contempt of Court, when "child-centric." After proving my case of Contempt, an interview with my four SEVERELY DELUSIONAL ALIENATED teens 13 and 17.9 years old convinced the judge of my monstosity and need for supervised visitaton! SUPERVISED VISITATION for older teens with cell phones that record audio and video, with friends, driver's licences, knowledge of 911 and how to call someone to come get them, or simply old enough to WALK OUT and find a way "home!" Paid $1,000 for Court transcript to document the incredible ( yet the Ass. Judgelette obviously found it credible!) amounts of perjury, and when shown during Mediation, that forced her to restore all my parental rights, plus "family reunification" for everyone. (Ass. Judgelette originally did NOT include the DIAGNOSED PERSONALITY DISORDERED Ex, the cause of our family's destruction. He must have believed I made up the story of her Personality Disorder and Meds, or more likely, was prejudiced by "ageism," or simply enjoyed golfing with her lawyer, etc. and I defended myself Pro Se, which insults their special status as arbiters of justice). Her signiture another lie - "Kids don't want to go to therapy." NOTHING CHANGED after two years of my successful lawyering! Timeline: Covid enabled my DIAGNOSED with Meds prescribed Personality Disordered ex. An incompetent THETAPIST called Protective services and NEVER talked to me, although 2 CPS cases and one police investigation (accusing me of sexual abuse against my own children!) ALL THREE investigations closed after ONE interview EACH with me. This should ONLY be about parent's rights. Everyone knows about fake allegations of abuse meant to help "erase the Ex.". In divorce, it has the acronym SAID - Sexual Abuse allegations In Divorce. Help stop this nonsense! Put your cart behind the horse, stay in contact with your kids through parenting, and give them some ideological balance, strength, and experience in dealing with life's complexity. That's our job as PARENTS. POLICE ENFORCEMENT of all, even the tiny ones, of the Standard Possession ORDERS, with fines, tickets and JAIL (Illinois 3rd denial means jail) will most likely stop EARLY the Alienator's instinct to "erase the Ex." Without police enforcement of our glovebox doc's ORDERS, we allow arbitrary pseudo-science psychology to influence arbitrary, illogical rulings "in the child's best interest." Parenting is OUR job, not the Courts, nor the incompetent "therapists" they pimp! Why psychology is not considered a science? "Because psychology often does not meet the five basic requirements for a field to be considered scientifically rigorous: clearly defined terminology, quantifiability, highly controlled experimental conditions, reproducibility and, finally, predictability and testability. Scientific American, Aug 13, 2013" QUACKS ___ Pseudo-science Quacks profitting from damaged families: ___ "Dr." Amy Baker (amatuerish pamphlet "books" sold to lawyers, etc) "Dr." Richard Warschak, author of "Divorce Poison," (descriptive but useless!) promotes Family Bridges' 3 day (THREE DAYS!) Family Reunification retreats costing more than $15,000 USD, booked OVER A YEAR IN ADVANCE! Super-useless.... "Dr." Childress convinces with an analysis that instinctual parent-bonding among mammals needs extraordinary influences to become damaged, and even hatefull. Yeah, it is Parental Alienation KIDNAPPING, so address the denial of Parental Rights FIRST! Etc. etc. SEVERELY Alienated teens probably (check the stats!) most likely may NEVER get over negative delusions about you as the Targeted Parent out of self-defence, to avoid their own guilt, for prolonging a nightmare they could have ended simply by getting into your car. You want to throw your family to a pseudo-science blinded by USA's sexually repressed, accusatory, hyper-religious and uber-judgemental "local values" of accuse, condemn, and punish - religious concepts mired in our WASP culture? I pity your children, for you will become party to the abuse, if you keep Parental Alienation "child centric." Keep psychiatry, and above-all, any "therapists," out of the current antagonistic Family Courts!!

I think what's implied re: 'good reason' is ---- 'without an objectively good reason' (not a subjectively good reason)...or even better, 'without a RATIONAL reason.' When there is zero historical evidence of abuse beyond what is generally acceptable as 'normal parenting' or 'common discipline' etc., the child's outright full rejection of that parent is 'not rational' by any measure, especially when it has been proven that kids who are truly abused (well above and beyond normally-accepted parental discipline) will NOT outright reject such a parent. I don't disagree with you that the child certainly feels their reasoning is justifiable.... but what the child feels doesn't define what alienation itself is. An experience therapist, judge, lawyer, whoever can look at the issue and objectively determine when a child's rejection of a parent is rational or irrational. If we went by 'what the child feels' then EVERY child at some point would be justified in rejecting a parent. This is why it is absolutely criminal for lawyers and judges --- and people like Samantha Boss, for one ---- to suggest "we always MUST listen to the child." Just no.

They know it. They know it happens in every case. But it's ignored. It doesn't fit the narrative of the government and makes money for people involved.

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Estrangement is different than alienation, and is handled differently. These videos are regarding alienation, not estrangement. Feel free to schedule a virtual consultation by contacting my staff. www.kmpetersonlaw.net

some do

Did you find the answer yet on your own?

Men do this to women also! My Exhusband did it to me.

Weighing in as a “sandwiched” parental alienation (PA) victim…a child alienated from one parent, now the targeted parent. The child doesn’t REALIZE that he is being abused, especially when the abusive parent rewards them with trips to Disney, state parks, the beach; and tickets to major league sporting events, for example. PA is so insidious that the child truly believes that all the crap fed to him by the alienating parent constitutes his own beliefs. It can take decades for said child to uncover the truth, but it must be he who figures it out for himself…he will obstinately refuse to entertain any outside suggestion that his beliefs are not correct. I do think that individual therapy can help to expose the abuse for what it is, and help an alienated child understand what was done to him.

Because they are being abused psychologically. There is not a class on this at age four, or eight. Children are supposed to be able to be children.

Amy Baker (and other experts) Say that abused children have mixed opinions on their abusing parent, but despite that They usually want to be with them, reconnect with them if separated. It may seem counter-intuitive for an adult, but this is how children behave. Think of Stockholm syndrome.

Dig deeper. He is EXACTLY correct. Children choose to be with the controller because they have been conditioned to. The child will lash out at first, but they eventually are brought under the control of the alienator. He is not watering it down, he is calling it abuse.

@@Kemano24No, it’s called manipulation and child abuse.