The NSW Government would be absolutely mad if they don’t green light this proposal, as this would be a game changer for how the people of Sydney will commute to and from Inner Sydney & the CBD in every way conceivable.

I think this is a great idea. Both sections of the line would def bennift. Though the central section may start to get a bit overwhelmed especially if they want to increase service in the future.

Such a good proposal!! The government must take the opportunity

i love the way that the majority of tram line suggestions for Sydney are exactly where tram routes originally ran.. :)

Wow! This would be bloody awesome! Just getting from the CBD to Broadway, UTS, USyd is currently quicker to WALK than take a bus. Besides, it would cut down so much traffic congestion on Parramatta Road & Broadway.

Need to get value uplift payments from property developers.

I think the Parramatta to Liverpool dedicated T80 bus route could be converted to lightrail as could the other route from Parramatta to Blacktown...it only took a few years to dismantle the extensive Sydney Tram network...The lightrail odyssey commenced in 1997..and has taken 27yrs to get to this pace. Pick up the pace.".you know it makes sense".

THIS IS SUCH A W IDEA WE NEED THIS IN SYDNEY NOW

If the Parramatta Rd to Green Square light rail opens this means: Bus route 320 will be ceased Routes 438x and 461x will be changed to all stops instead of express (Leichhardt and Railway Square section) It would be either L5 or L6 (if Stage 2 of Parramatta Light Rail opens) If it extends to Burwood (or Strathfield maybe), this means that route 461x will either be ceased, or timetable reduced

Top video, we definitely need more projects like these. Please do more on the future eastern suburbs metro extension.

This would be fantastic. I love that Altrac even mentioned wider footpaths, lower speed limits and cycleways.

Excellent video, very concise delivering some exciting news. I've been saying this to my friends for a while now, although I did not expect it to be profitable. I'm glad it is, because it doesn't feel like the government had any desire to do this otherwise.

I would LOVE to see Parramatta Rd be revitalised like this, but to be honest, I don't see how this could be made. This is very professionally developed and attractive proposal, but only in theory. Too many busy roads criss-cross Parramatta Rd like Liverpool Rd in Haberfield; Norton St and Crystal St in Leichardt; Bridge Rd and Missenden Rd in Camperdown; City Rd, Wattle St, and Abercrombie St in Broadway, and Harris St in Ultimo. Not to mention the M4/WestConnex exit in Haberfield feeds directly to Parramatta Rd at Haberfield into Taverners Hill. Even if all traffic from out west were forced to use the recently opened M4/WestConnex route to get in and out of the city, the current capacity would probably need to be doubled to handle traffic that would be cut off from using Parramatta Rd to get to places like Leichardt, Camperdown, or Broadway. The ONLY motorway tunnel route heading east along the same path as Parramatta Rd is the M8, but there is NO exit until you get to the St Peters Interchange. So unless they can add new exits to the M8, or find some alternate to replace Parramatta Rd along the same path, I just don't see how this would work. Also, where the hell are the trams starting/terminating? Sloane St is nothing more than a local suburban street that crosses Parramatta Rd. Are they planning to demolish whole blocks of houses to build a terminus at that end?

I think I've said this on one of your videos before, but universities are such a major driver of public transit - it's bonkers that Sydney has so much rail but none of it to USyd. I'm not at all surprised that Altrac are now saying they could make money on it.

Great vid! I hope we get it!

That a very great interview say about this feedback well done mate!

Great video. So much better analysis tha what is in the press. But hard to see it getting traction without speeding up and increasing access to the CBD. L2/L3 must be close to capacity so there would need tobe a new route through the CBD e.g. Castlreagh or Elizabeth St - which would be politically tricky given the George St tantrums.

The news stories about this proposal talked about the long over due redevelopment of Parramatta Road but it baffles me why only to Taverner's Hill. Most of Parramatta Road is a dead zone with run down neighbourhoods and closed businesses all along it. Why not take a light rail the full length of Parramatta Road and redevelop the entire strip?

Great video! I’ve been advocating for a Parramatta Road light rail for a long time as t I’ve watched the once vibrant Main Street become a car clogged stroad. It would revitalise the entire area from Glebe to Leichhardt greatly at the very least. Extending it on to Parramatta ultimately would also be great for the continued growth of Sydney.

Great idea! Yes 👍🏽

Would be a brilliant addition. Frankly it should also roll through Botany Rd in Mascot past the train station as well and up King St in Newtown which is virutally designed for light rail.

It’s a gamble, but also convert Elizabeth st into a tram line and do a full loop. Did do a map but didn’t add green square/zetaland tram line (was a backwater in my mind but will add this). Reason why so they can operate let say parra rd to kingsford and have lots of patterns, like one tram goes to kingsford via cq, another skips city loop but goes to Randwick and whatnot…. Maybe even start having route numbers like Melbourne Also add a tram to Bondi beach. Can work, it’s will be struggle with Bondi Rd but it’s can work.

How to build to budget this time ?Or increase capacity per carriage ?

I pray that one day the Parramatta light rail and those of the L1-3 will eventually be able to form a single, connected network and solve the last mile problem for the entire region

I don't think it is a good idea to have interlining or stop sharing between CSELR and this new Parra Rd to Green Square (PR2GS) line. Both PR2GS and CSELR will be very heavily-used lines in the not too distant future, potentially needing to run trams every 1-2 minutes on all. LI think they need to build new tracks down Elizabeth Street, have the CSELR move to those, run PR and GS on to George Street as they used to do. The L1 can't really through-run to GS either, as it can only run 35m trams rather than the 67m coupled sets proposed for PR2GS and already in operation on CSELR. I do agree that it might be best moving L1 away from the colonade as the section from George Street up to Central is an extremely slow section of the L1, though this can be partly solved in the future by actually buying decent-quality trams that are designed for the line not the cheapest junk. The proposal also suggests that wire-free could be used, but this would be insane given all the problems we have had on CSELR. I hope they can find a way to increase capacity for events at Moore Park as currently the operations are simply to slow and not enough capacity to deal with match-day or concert crowds.

The same company that built the broken L2-3 line with cracks in the tracks only after 2-3 years of usage signals and points that fail in the rain.

Are there plans ro build public transport beyond the inner west? Like the Hills Districts? Or Penrith area, which has large housing estates, the M4 and infrequent buses? Or Macarthur area? Or Fairfield area?Sydney has population beyond Parramatta and the inner core.

Car traffic capacity might be reduced, by with bike lanes and tramways the pax capacity would be increased, potentially significantly. This is a great idea.

Not to mention the option to use the “tracks” as a bus way similar to how L2 tracks are used between Moore park and Kingsford. Win win IMO

Does Altrac own any property along the corridor?

1:35 Wattle Street and Chippendale are a bit messed up on the map. (Actual Wattle Street (UTS) is where Chippendale is marked, and And Glebe Point Road is where Wattle Street is marked)

I think this is a great proposal, although I reckon they need to come up with a better idea regarding how the line interacts with central station

Public transport is needed in the West and growth areas that lack public transport options, not areas that already them.

Driving in Parramatta Rd is currently a nightmare, and after this project, it will be impossible

Needs to go right up into the CBD via Elizabeth Street. Not having this as an option is what hurts the L1. You can still have a 'cross-country' service (as proposed by Altrac and depicted in this video) but you should also have the majority of services running out from the northern end of the CBD down Elizabeth St. Another branch running down Oxford St all the way to Bondi Beach should be incorporated into this plan as well. Do all of that plus extend the L2 right down to Coogee Beach, extend the L3 to Maroubra Beach and La Perouse (L3L), and have another branch along City Rd past USYD to Missenden Rd, and then you've got light rail in the Eastern Suburbs & Inner West sorted, starting with this project. This is Minns' chance to leave behind a legacy, but does he have the cajonies to finally give it the green light it should've been given 25 years ago? Let's see.

Will you be doing a video on the July roadmap?

How to build a double decker tram this time

A worry is that all the fanfare could crowd out consideration of other potential light rail projects ( as highlighted in your recent excellent video) many of which might be better value than Parramatta Rd. I have long thought that a combination of an upraded high frequency T2, the Parramatta metro and traffic reduction/busways/pedestrianisatin on P road could do the trick and Little Bay, Eastgardens, Carlingfird missing link, crosstown routes etc etc should be higher priorities. This proposal could potentially capture the debate.

Parramatta Road from Ultimo to Ashfield already full of traffic anytime of the day. If they build New Light Rail , you basically give the car, bus, van a death sentence on the Parramatta road.

Why are trams called Light Rail?

I’m all for public transports but is there not already sufficient public transports in and around the CBD and Parra areas e.g. Parramatta Light Rail, Bankstown Metro, Dulwich HIll Light Rail, frequent buses and trains, Uber and taxis? I don’t see any infrastructure proposals for south west Sydney, in particular the Fairfield, LIverpool and Campbelltown corridors. There’s hardly any major highways along Fairfield and absolutely no motorways, no light rails, no metros, buses and trains are so infrequent and long journey times, especially weekends. If you stay in the city after 1am on the weekend, you get one night bus per hour. This will only cause people from the west to not take public transports and drive into the city. The only public transport development is the St Mary’s metro, and that doesn’t even reach any of the three major LGAs. Liverpool and Campbelltown are major growth LGAs and both the Hume Hwy and M5 in Liverpool are becoming a Parramatta Rd nightmare.

So hyped for Parra Rd light rail !

Look good!give me more details good future,,,,,

Great video, interesting the various central options. I'm not convinced they need to link the two new lines together at central though, just an appropriate interchange between lines and central.

it should join up with Olympic Park that way it'll be parra to city light rail.

DO IT DO IT DO IT Seriously, Parramatta Rd needs this badly. It’s just an awful place to be a pedestrian at the moment, and it shouldn’t be. There should be bipartisan support, too! Labour love to promote public transport spending and pretend it was their idea. Coalition will love that road users are forced on to private toll roads and use privately operated parking lots. The only thing I’d change - and it’s probably a down the line thing - is the terminus at Taverners Hill. It should continue a short distance to terminate at Ashfield station.

They should build it at Bondi

Would be even better if this can service RPA and Newtown

Question is: how long is it going to take to build? And how long until it is actually accessible to the public? Both City and Parramatta light rail projects have major delays.

Who do I need to vote for to make this happen?! Would be mad for it not to happen.

This would benefit me greatly. And hopefully many others.

I dont see this happening at least not until the airport is built.

The only real option for extending the light rail is down parramatta road. Green Square has a train station already as well as bus services. Creating a new line that just continues down george street on to parramatta road to the university of Sydney is the only realistic project. Everything else is just pie in the sky stuff.

Ugh I would love this

Could they maybe not cut through so many cycleways?

Who are the joint venture partners and how do they finance this ? U have to remember these type of privately funded projects normally cost the taxpayer more in the long run as the private sector borrow on behalf of government at higher interest rates plus then charge a premium back to the govt. whereas if the govt funded it itself could borrow at far cheaper rates.

Option 3 having a stop on Eddy Avenue would be fantastic for pedestrians... but I can see there would be fatalities. :( Just watching pedestrians crossing from Belmore Park to Central freaks me out, without the addition of people getting off the tram. This is why we can't have new things.

I'm pretty sure Altrac has renamed their brand as "CAF" - Don't quote me on that though.

LR should head to Rosebery, instead of Zetland. Zetland is already getting a metro

Didn't Minns reject it? If so the opposition should take a hard look at it.

privatised tram infrastructure is always a bad idea and the tax payer will always foot the bill.

Parramatta rd yes but dont come to redfern its already chaotic enough here..

My 'Unsolicited Proposal' is to use brumbies brought down from the Snowy to pull drays. Hand out advertising umbrella's to the office workers when it rains. Multi-modal is all the go. Clop, clop, clop, "Gee yup!" 😉

Already dead. Goivernment have said bus priority is all Parra Road is going to get. This mob is hopeless.

This will never happen as the govt is already opposed to it even if ALTRAC fully funds the upfront costs of the construction.

its a tram

Clover Moore is campaigning to have this accepted 👍

This is the dumbest idea ever. For the density of these areas only a metro would make sense. Reducing Parramatta Road to one lane for cars in each direction is absolutely insane.

They are called trams Shitney….

China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation have build the same light rail in Israel, Red Line (Tel Aviv Light Rail), Australia should import the Chinese labours to build rail way and houses.

If we consider the long-term perspective, there's only one answer: the METRO. Outdated trams are being phased out in many countries, like Malaysia. These trams are relics of the last century, with unsightly wires! Businesses along the CBD routes are suffering and have not recovered. While developed regions are burying power lines underground and removing poles, Sydney is cluttering our skies! If you dare add the messy wires and torn-up ground to the renderings, no one will like them. Trams should not be built in crowded areas; they belong in museums

this is gonna be a shit show like the other light rail projects, make existing roads smaller and remove bus routes reducing over all public transport capacity and increasing traffic

No cycleways. Waste of money for the absolute minority that use them

Personally, I don't think this is a good idea

do not do this its so stupid