It would be nice to see the tiny Newcastle light rail extended. One line to the university and one to John Hunter hospital. Both are fairly densely populated routes. Park and ride could be integrated to stop the city centre and beaches being chocked with cars.

an exciting day for all people in Sydney

There must’ve been a lot of pushing for the front view

Nice video ❤

Where would trams go? The answer is simple. They would just take over existing lanes which are currently assigned to motor vehicles on roads which are already crippled by congestion. Makes perfect sense to usurp existing traffic lanes when traffic is light and existing congestion non-existent (as in 1934) but makes absolutely zero sense to decrease (or impede on) motor vehicle lanes which cannot currently cope with cars only.

They should, but the Intercity trains have different door placements to the suburban lines. Even if they don't install platform doors, having the train doors open at the same place each time would mean that people would line up to enter the trains which would mean less delays

I support platform doors on the metro lines but it would be too expensive to install on all Sydney trains stations. I have witnessed an intoxicated person fall under a train at Lidcombe Station. As a regular traveller on Sydney trains over the years, I have been delayed by people falling, jumping or threatening self-harm at railway stations quite a few times. I do agree though that it would be unviable to make all stations on the network totally safe.

They could do it Without the technology the Train could press a button to open the doors

Horizontal/Vertical poles With sections that are automatically lifted when a train comes Not as effective as a whole door but good enough Either that or a bump to prevent things from rolling down combined with ladders so people can climb back up if needed Add a button that the station operator/anyone can push, and you can warn trains in advance

If I could wake up 4am, I'd like to hop on the first metro from Sydenham all the way to Tallawong.

Great video. Sets out the costs and benefits really well. My understanding is that a further benefit is that acceleration and braking can be faster, allowing for higher frequencies.

there are 4 problems 1. How hard it is to install them/ the time it will take to be installed. 2. making sure the signaling system works/ the time it will take to be approved by the safety commission. 3. retiring the regional trains, making sure the converted Xplorer's/ endeavor rail cars are able to meet the requirements of the signaling system. 4. if they we're to do it in major stations like central good luck running replacement busses the CBD that there part of is extremely congested. Solution for installing them: install them at certain stations where Sydney metro already runs Like Chatswood, you could run the replacement buses while there being installed.

I think the benefit of platform screen doors/gates can extend beyond just saving lives: - they get rid of problems with Bernoulli's effect so trains can pass faster/accelerate faster around the platforms, and reduce overall travel time and increase line capacity - they increase train reliability because you're not going to have some drunk bogan walking onto the tracks/someone committing suicide

One economic benefit that can be added is: “Amenity” is increased by the proportion of people CHOOSING to go by rail instead of driving etc., because (and don’t underestimate it), people are scared or annoyed by the experience. And why not, it’s rational - several tonnes moving right past you at 100km/h? The problem with economic rationale is getting them right, not in attempting them at all. Predicting the future is always worthwhile even when you’re wrong.

There is another option instead of using screen doors for station platforms, rising barriers. In Japan they use this. "Made from a series of long, thick wires threaded between pillars positioned along the edge of the platform at 10-metre intervals, the barrier is intended to keep travelers safe and prevent accidents and suicides as trains pull into crowded stations whose platforms are rarely fitted with barriers or safety gates. The wire rope screen will remain down at the edge of the platform until trains make a complete stop at the station."

What about different train lengths and different location of train doors.

Never mind lightning strikes! WE DON’T TALK about cars killing people anymore. Do people realise we can memorise every single tragedy on the railways, and with e-bikes for that matter? That’s not true for cars! Why? $$$ ??

Speaking about cost of human life i believe thats one of the main reasons against them in the new York subway. They did a calculation and calculated it would be cheaper to just get sued by the families of people killed rather than install psds across the stations

great video good pionts

Cant have it with driver trains. Drivers would have to stop precisely like a robot. And also its common to over or under run the platform a bit in the slippery wet. Now they can look out and see if they are on the platform and then open doors, or not open the first car doors but open the others that are on the platform. These positioned doors will screw things up majorly. This will never happen

Common safety sense tells me that baby prams should always be facing along the length of the platform and should only be turned to point to the train after it has stopped. With this in mind, would have the Carlton tragedy occurred even if the pram brakes were not activated?

To get PSD's you dont need gap fillers and vice versa. NYC subway use gap fillers at some stations and they dont have PSD's. Also I think we need a preliminary step and just place a gate about 3-4m wide to align with the center of each carriage to provide a safe area to stand behind and keep a wide gap for where the doors would sit for T, H, A, B and K sets.

The problem I see is that not all trains have the same positioning of doors. For example Tangaras and K sets which still comprise a 20-30% of the fleet have different positionings on their N cars compared to all the other trains, not to mention the V sets and regional services. The platform doors will not be able to handle the varying positions of each train

I think you should talk a bit more on the rope platform doors. For the standard platform screen doors, they are basically impossible to be installed across the whole network as you said. The rope platform doors could very well cover most of the network, avoid the tragedy from happening again, increase the platform capacity and could cost significantly less than the typical platform doors.

For the regional train not being able to fit the standard platform screen doors, I would like to reference the Umekita platform screen doors in Osaka. Which opens differently depending on the train type entering the station.

No it doesn’t cause makes our stations look ugly

Yea I feel like some of the station need platform screens especially on underground station to prevent accidents but it requires lots of hard work.

Far too expensive Too much gap between carriages and platforms Few Mainline stations get crowded enough to justify them That accident with the pram was dreadful. But it was a freak accident mainly caused by lack of education of the victims. People need to know that railway platforms are dangerous places, even more dangerous than the side of a road, and be continually aware of it.

I think we should consider what they did at Olympic Park, where they have barriers placed in the platform between the doors, but without the gate part a psd. Definitely won't work at a lot of stations, but may help with safety, and it seems relatively cheap to put a couple of metal gates down.

I agree...I suggested something like that, while back on another channel. But the problem with that, they'll need to upgrade the trains themselves.

I would support them on the busy underground platforms in the CBD. Wynyard and Town Hall especially - those platforms get stupidly busy. Maybe even Circular Quay could benefit

Quickly becoming one of my fav youtubers!

Why can’t the section of the platform between the train and yellow line have a slight “ramp” elevation so that prams or objects don’t roll towards the tracks.

Fantastic video!

I actually agree on your question

ATO isn’t strictly needed for PSD. In Stockholm, commuter trains without ATO use platforms with platform screen doors just fine.

Who wants to see TTG4 start making TSW videos again!

They also increase platform capacity by doing away with the regulatory safety spacing from the platform edge. Stations with narrow platform widths could see a capacity increase of (roughly) 10% using PSD’s. Think Town Hall e.g.

As a blind person, I am a big fan of platform screen doors. Fortunately, I've never fallen off a platform or train, but I know people who have, and the fact that they managed to get away with it without serious injury or loss of life is as much about Luck as anything else. I appreciate the limitations that you mentioned, but I believe that it's better to have them on some platforms than on none. I realise there is cost, but can we really value a life at $200,000?

I am unfamiliar with how are Sydney train door layout is. However I wouldn’t suggest putting platform screen or gate doors. Because if you do you are basically stuck with a specific door layout on a carriage. In which if a new design trains would use a new door layout for whatever reason, the TOC won’t be able to implement that new door layout due to the stuck door layout of screen/gate door. Also need to consider rather or not can existing platforms are strong enough to hold the platform screen/gate door and that will cost more to upgrade existing platform structure. Also not related so safety but if screen or gate doors are implemented. It will just be harder for us to film trains-

I’m looking forward to the D sets. My one concern is that they will continue to run 4 carriage trains in supposedly non peak times. Currently 4 carriage V sets are often packed around midday and the new trains are smaller. It will be amusing to see how the construction workers manage with the new trains as they like to stretch out across seats. I don’t really see the need for folding tables very few people would use them and I suspect they will be broken in short order.

The immediate problems in this replacement program - while the Minns government proposes building locally it was the previous ALP government that opened the door to offshoring with the Waratah trains built in China against a proposal from UGL for locally built trains (it's worth noting the project required a large public bailout at time of the incoming Liberal government), finally tenders for the D set trains saw no locally built trains as UGL had partnered with south Korean manufacturing, which suddenly was an issue for the ALP (and media). Second it was the previous ALP government that introduced multiple new sets without understanding the power requirement and then came up with zero plans for upgrading. Personally I don't believe the Minns government will be around for long which is fortunate as Labor governments have no idea about power supply at all, how many windmills would it take to run a train line??

Why is the Name M1 Northwest and Bankstown Line? The Metro Doesn't go to Bankstown.

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