Part 1 | HEATED DEBATE On If Fans Will Care If Pusha T DISSES Drake After The Kendrick Lamar Beef

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@rashattack7542
@rashattack7542 14 күн бұрын
The fact that they said kendrick repeated what pusha said and that the reason he won is a terrible recollections of what happened in this beef
@juwanstill
@juwanstill 14 күн бұрын
🎯
@tyronemartin9933
@tyronemartin9933 14 күн бұрын
But true😂
@PurpPhantom
@PurpPhantom 12 күн бұрын
If they knew anything about battle rap they’d know it’s harder to make a used angle still hit.
@yawdaorb
@yawdaorb 14 күн бұрын
Alex.....Drake did two interviews (Elliott Wilson and The Shop) where he admitted himself that Pusha T won the beef. Those words came out of his own mouth. Nobody cares about what delusional Drake stans think, most people and most importantly Drake knows he lost
@edg810
@edg810 11 күн бұрын
Dude was crazy for arguing different. You need to be blind and deaf and a massive d-rider to think Pusha didn't destroy Drake. Didn't he lose a bunch of Adidas money too? And to say "oh but Pusha didn't become a major superstar after the fact" is irrelevant. Nas beat Jay-Z, right? Well Jay-Z was still outselling Nas for the rest of their careers. Most people would agree Canibus beat LL Cool J, however, Canibus career never took off after winning the battle, meanwhile LL was a superstar doing music and movies. 50 Cent lost to Jadakiss, right? How many times did Jadakiss outsell 50 Cent? Or did Kiss become a superstar after tearing him apart in Checkmate? Pusha's last album was his first No. 1 of his whole career if I'm not mistaken. That's not a win? He got nominated for Grammys for his 2 albums since the beef. That's not a win? Dude raps about cocaine in an era where most people respect the drug user more than the drug dealer. The reason why that argument is weak af is because it becomes a situation of where you ether "Ja Rule" your opponent's career or literally kill him. Or how else you supposed to prove you win?
@marvinharris8358
@marvinharris8358 14 күн бұрын
I personally don’t care if he disses him again or not. What I really want is for Clipse to make an example of Jim Jones, since a reunion album is confirmed. 😂😂
@olaakande5581
@olaakande5581 14 күн бұрын
The thing w/ the Pusha T thing is On Elliot Wilson’s interview Drake himself conceded that he lost to Push So he was aware of the court of public opinion
@messielele4704
@messielele4704 14 күн бұрын
People really underestimate how huge Kendrick is not only in the US but also overseas. It was not surprising to see the whole world stop to follow this beef closely, the whole world was invested because they both got huge fanbases overseas too! Pusha T's reach ain't that far with all due respect because I love Pusha! But we have to be honest only the purists would care if Pusha spins the block, the casual fan won't care AT ALL! I'm with A on this one
@TheMithVideos
@TheMithVideos 14 күн бұрын
Alex is arguing just to have a moment. There's NO WAY he thinks what he is saying is true.... It's Nuts! Drake fans say he lost against Push. Everyone aside from Mal (and Alex now)
@808ocelot6
@808ocelot6 14 күн бұрын
I think Alex is a Pusha T hater. Lol. During that whole Drake and Jim Jones vs Pusha T situation Alex was hating then too
@melvynbyron620
@melvynbyron620 12 күн бұрын
No they don't, i know many people that are Drake fans and none of them think Push won, they still go on about red button Drake had. Only the Drake fans who are actually rap fans say Drake lost. Lots of Drake fans are fans of Drake rather than rap.
@DecaturQue
@DecaturQue 14 күн бұрын
Push been nominated for multiple Grammys since that Drake beef. The two albums before the beef were about as hard as the two albums after and got none of that attention.
@jaysoncarter3171
@jaysoncarter3171 14 күн бұрын
Facts i was about to say the same thing.
@AriesGirl7719
@AriesGirl7719 12 күн бұрын
Facts! People act like Push fell off.
@MrSkillz07
@MrSkillz07 11 күн бұрын
Drake CLEARLY loss to Pusha T and Kendrick. What the hell is Alex talking about?
@tyroneward923
@tyroneward923 14 күн бұрын
It’ll be nice to see Push and K Dot make another song together
@DreamBigFred
@DreamBigFred 14 күн бұрын
push next album was nominated for a grammy...tf is he talking about lol
@CeeCeeMarie.
@CeeCeeMarie. 14 күн бұрын
Adidas gave a fuck
@suvioblue
@suvioblue 14 күн бұрын
“The man who like to play victim”
@earlgreysweatpants
@earlgreysweatpants 14 күн бұрын
Please get Alex off the pod
@davidj6588
@davidj6588 14 күн бұрын
When it comes to kendrick, it wasnt just about the alleged daughter. Thats not the only reason he won 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
@tyroneward923
@tyroneward923 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for saying that
@Demsky83
@Demsky83 13 күн бұрын
Alex must’ve been living an alternate time line then the rest of us.
@THANKYOUTEZ
@THANKYOUTEZ 12 күн бұрын
PUSHA got his fade and won. why would he go backwards?
@jkarvaughn9735
@jkarvaughn9735 14 күн бұрын
I think they forgot
@phillipcollins4399
@phillipcollins4399 14 күн бұрын
Akademiks has said Pusha T has won without hesitation. So has Drake. What’s the point? Who cares about the fans who don’t listen Pusha T. He was over 40 when the beef happened. What did you expect? He didn’t become a bigger artist globally because he was never that to begin with. The impact in the culture from both losses was big. The type of fans he’s talking about don’t know one Nas song and that he beat Jay Z in the battle. Besides the artists, who cares about the opinions from fans like these that obviously like rap because it’s popular?Also Nas career didn’t spike, but culturally we know what it means to Ether somebody, which is what Push and Dot did to Drake.
@JonathanIsrael708
@JonathanIsrael708 12 күн бұрын
The point... Drake continued to throw shots at Push then started dissing Pharrell to bait him.
@corrae99
@corrae99 13 күн бұрын
If you don't care about push a t diss your opinion doesn't matter
@nixononthetrack
@nixononthetrack 14 күн бұрын
The song Meltdown is where the Pharrell shit started.
@RayRayES-ey3rf
@RayRayES-ey3rf 14 күн бұрын
There was nothing debatable about Push and Drake lol push dissed him so hard he didn’t want to respond anymore. Just because someone’s career continues means nothing in regards to who won. Jay Z literally got ethered and continued his career. Shit even meek career continued after back to back. The whole world yelled free him when he went to jail. Only way for your career to be over is to start dropping bullshit music after the beef
@91fox29
@91fox29 13 күн бұрын
Nobody cared about the kid thing when Kendrick said it. That’s facts too lol Kendrick really talked about their creepy nature and culture vulture ways 😭
@thecane
@thecane 14 күн бұрын
Push really dont need to say shit else about drake. it would be like beating a dead horse.
@jaydenfleming9227
@jaydenfleming9227 14 күн бұрын
I don’t think Pusha says anything foreal.. I think he’s passed it and doesn’t need Drake for clout
@DylanW3
@DylanW3 13 күн бұрын
A) Pusha doesn’t care if no one cares. It’s about the principle. Drake took shots on Meltdown and a few other songs. And he dissed Pharrell again on FM. This will simply be a response. B) I think Pusha is shooting at several people on this album. Drake will be just one of many targets. C) I think Drake is prepared and will have a quick response of his own. And I think Pusha know that too.
@lg3385
@lg3385 11 күн бұрын
Pusha stated on a Drink Champs interview he's no longer concerned with Drake but he heard some subliminals and knows The Story of Adidon still bothers him.
@AriesGirl7719
@AriesGirl7719 12 күн бұрын
He was definitely gaslighting you Savon.
@Royale5600
@Royale5600 14 күн бұрын
“Ima pass on this body I’m John stocken” this is just the beginning
@DementedEscape
@DementedEscape 14 күн бұрын
Definitely will, Pusha T has been rapping about the same product and does it well…never knew I needed so many coke references lol
@parkermudsen1063
@parkermudsen1063 6 күн бұрын
There’s no need for Pusha to revisit that battle. He already won and should just leave it in the past.
@reemy8245
@reemy8245 9 күн бұрын
I agree pusha t is not Kendrick lamar now fans cared more because Kendrick is another level I bet if anyone dissed drake not Kendrick no one will care
@larry_legend
@larry_legend 13 күн бұрын
@0:33 Unfinished business?!?! Surgical Summer??
@clubmbrsonlytv
@clubmbrsonlytv 13 күн бұрын
Push last album was #1 billboard and Grammy nominated 😂fuck is Alex talking about… and a year or so after the Drake vs push beef, push dissed Drake on a thug song and all the rappers and fans were crying about him still dissing Drake so ppl did still care
@melvynbyron620
@melvynbyron620 12 күн бұрын
I get what Alex is saying, King Push sold 42k first week, Daytona sold 77k first week, It's Almost Dry sold 55k first week. Pusha T did not see massive growth from beating Drake, Drakesexuals still say Drake outrapped him on Duppy.
@757reaper
@757reaper 14 күн бұрын
You right and wrong. The impact on Pusha T career was minimal because his music has no cross over with Drake fans, not including the record couldn’t really be on its own due to it being the story of OJ beat. But also it got shut down. Before it got ugly AND most important Drake fans got an album almost immediately afterward. This time it’s Kdot who is gonna have more crossover, and Drake fans have to stew in it. They can’t just move on to listen to God’s plan on repeat to cope. The visibility is even hirer this time? Non rap listeners are intuned while push approach is often misunderstood. Even you did it. “He outed he had a child,” when that’s not the diss. The diss was he’s a insecure hypocritical deadbeat. Meet the Grahams does not give you an opportunity miss the allegory.
@Ace_4k
@Ace_4k 13 күн бұрын
Y'all diminish the size of Pusha T's audience... of course his base does not compare to Kendrick's in size or global reach, but let's not act like it's a tiny section of the hiphop community who backs Push.
@quindaniels5149
@quindaniels5149 14 күн бұрын
Hit the streets and ask 5 random ppl to name 5 pusha T songs. The MASSES will not care I agree lol. But hip hop fans will
@kawasakieddy61
@kawasakieddy61 14 күн бұрын
Drake never had the making of a varsity level rap beefer
@tyronemartin9933
@tyronemartin9933 14 күн бұрын
Drake became bigger after pusha t beef and pusha t made 10 000 dollar music videos after😂
@illytimmy2613
@illytimmy2613 14 күн бұрын
Basically saying Pusha T Vs Drake = Debatable Kendrick Vs Drake = Unanimous
@bafanakaione9534
@bafanakaione9534 14 күн бұрын
What doesn't make it debatable is the fact that Drake got beat up so bad that his daddy(J Prince) stopped the fight.
@illytimmy2613
@illytimmy2613 14 күн бұрын
@@bafanakaione9534 A man choosing to be private about his child ≠ hiding a child. We can debate about Pusha’s angles. We could do the same about Kendrick’s as well. Until he dropped a bomb on his head. Story of Adidon wasn’t no bomb. Now if you choose to respond you’re proving my point
@bafanakaione9534
@bafanakaione9534 14 күн бұрын
@@illytimmy2613 planning an adidas press run is very private🙄you're a stan so you didn't listen to the lyrics. "Cleaned her for IG but stench is on her."🤮 "You don't really want it with him" and Drake didn't want it😂🤣 Jeezy Laugh
@illytimmy2613
@illytimmy2613 14 күн бұрын
@@bafanakaione9534 what’s wrong with unveiling your child to the world when you want and how you want? sounds like you’re a Pusha T stan 🥲, K Dot won unanimously. I’m not doing any back and forth about that, no one cares about Sophie knows better or whoever he chose as his Beyoncé. His hardest bar was “tick tick tick”. Drake told him he keeps rapping like he sold for Escobar in the 80s and he’s still rapping about that in 2018. Again we’re debating here = debatable. Let it go, my good brother
@91fox29
@91fox29 13 күн бұрын
Nah lol the street shit shut it down. Drake need to stfu 😭💀 that man went to Texas because somebody put people in front his house now he need real security and protection that’s a fact
@tyronemartin9933
@tyronemartin9933 14 күн бұрын
Pusha t won a grammy selling 40 000 lol what u talking about grammys mean nothing
@corrae99
@corrae99 13 күн бұрын
I see why podcasting is dying
@BothTeamsPlayedHard
@BothTeamsPlayedHard 14 күн бұрын
Passionately ignorant…
@hootop85
@hootop85 10 күн бұрын
Bruh in the backwards hat tweaking and softly reaching, everybody knows Pusha killed Drake and Pusha is relevant enough for his work to speak for its self
@3peat693
@3peat693 12 күн бұрын
Sounds like y'all podding in bikini bottom 🍍
@Delvotron_
@Delvotron_ 12 күн бұрын
This pod is trash.. but the girl is cute
@DSQUATTRO.44
@DSQUATTRO.44 13 күн бұрын
I love how everyone has their own opinions on the situation, but they skip over so many facts drake definitely had a lot to say to push t afterwards the only reason he was shooting at Pharrell is to get a response from Pusha T as of right now And I find it so funny that y’all want him to mention Pusha T in the battle with Kendrick, but y’all was mad when he responded to everybody else that actually was dissing him right now Make it make sense to me The ultra media bias in the battle is what bothered me the most to be honest. It’s the only thing I don’t like about this whole battle in my opinion.
@brianlarkins4250
@brianlarkins4250 14 күн бұрын
Why do you care about casual hip hop listeners they not hip hop they opinion means absolutely nothing Drake lost period he 1-2 period this weirdo shit yall doing to help drake is disgusting
@AriesGirl7719
@AriesGirl7719 12 күн бұрын
Technically he’s 1-4. Common, Budden, Pusha, and Kendrick. He won against Meek.
@IG.Lajet_
@IG.Lajet_ 9 күн бұрын
Nobody is really gonna care if Push Diss Drake again…..
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