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Partial armor is quite popular in fantasy art, movies, anime, and video games, be it in the form of barbarian or gladiator equipment or... titillating female warrior outfits. This is a unique case though... an exceptionally realistic portrayal of a medieval suit of plate, but with breasts instead of breastplate. :D
Of course back in real-life history not everyone could afford a full set, and some protection is better than none. Also there are techniques and guard positions to fight from which minimize certain target areas. Another consideration is mobility and over-heating. So let's over-think it a little... how much could a knight / solder / mercenary gain from ditching the body armor but keeping he helmet, gorget, and limb protection?
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@niklasw.1297 4 ай бұрын

Ironlily really made the whole "now draw her in fully functional medieval plate armour" an entire thing. Mad respect.

@josecoronadonieto6911 4 ай бұрын

Now draw her being protected.

@grapfen587 4 ай бұрын

@@lorddoomer7271 if you mean that he points the end of the shaft fowards, it's simple: he is making use of the full length of the polearm because from that position you can very quickly execute a strike from above. Because of this you can't really get closer without risking a strike. This also has the advantage of making it harder for the opponent do dislocate the polearm to get an advantage (can't shove it aside if it's not there) and it makes it harder for the enemy to correctly judge the length of the polearm thus potentially effectively increasing your range even more. If you hold a stick in your hand and rest it on your shoulder, theoretically you have just eliminated your range advantage, but in practice if anyone comes into striking distance of your stick, all you have to is strike with the stick and you have your range back. As for the second part....I'd say it depends what kind of fetish ninjato you have....

@_Animikii_ 4 ай бұрын

honestly.... i love both since afterall, its fun to imagine whats not shown just as much as it is to see it! ;D

@ebonslayer3321 4 ай бұрын

@@grapfen587 That end is also lighter and thus, due to how levers work, much more maneuverable. It can push someone else's weapon aside with ease, something top-heavy weapons typically struggle with, whilst moving itself into a strike so long as you follow through with the movement.

@grapfen587 4 ай бұрын

@@ebonslayer3321 Yeah you're already naturally in a position to make the strike wheras if you have the polearm extended forwards you'd have to pull it back, and then go for the hit which is more exhausting and takes longer. I'm just glad to see someone here make sense...I just finshed a discussion in another comment thread here where someone was saying that the armor design shown here would be advantageous in actual combat because you could move faster... they tried to sell me that when someone in full plate goes to grapple them they could just sidestep out of the way...

@rebeccahogan876 4 ай бұрын

Seeing you and ironlily interacting on twitter was one of the most unexpectedly weird experiences I've ever had, glad it's turned into a video

@MauricioOsuna-et8et 4 ай бұрын

There is another video of Skall having interactions with vtubers, absurdly funny 😂

@RedRidingHoodedMercenary 4 ай бұрын

@@MauricioOsuna-et8etlink to the interaction, please?

@blackjacka.5097 4 ай бұрын

@@MauricioOsuna-et8etthe f

@soccerandtrack10 4 ай бұрын

Heh!!!935 likes.

@kylestanley7843 4 ай бұрын

Skall interacting with other online social spheres is always the most entertaining damn thing. I still remember his reaction to Ironmouse seeing one of his videos.

@Peptuck 4 ай бұрын

The part about the leg armor really being the exhausting part makes sense. When we look at older armor styles for infantry, we often see lightly or completely unarmored legs, both to reduce encumbrance and also because it's just mechanically harder to hit the legs. When making the tradeoff between endurance and protection, the legs seem like the most logical place to start.

@AnonymousAnarchist2 4 ай бұрын

Bonus points for lower legs being sort of replacable.

@CazadorSlayer 4 ай бұрын

@@AnonymousAnarchist2 Yep, you can survive without a leg, maybe even an arm. Kinda need that torso bit what with all its internal organs and such, though!

@irrelevantfish1978 4 ай бұрын

Weight on the legs being particularly exhausting is established science, as well, and I've heard figures of weight on the feet being as exhausting as six to ten times as much weight on the back. After all, your feet have to move roughly twice the distance and speed as your torso, and are also constantly changing direction, so a significant amount of the energy you spend getting your feet moving is wasted when you have to reverse their direction to prepare for the next step.

@Dingus_Khaan 4 ай бұрын

Also legs are pretty hardy things themselves, save for the inner thigh where the femoral artery is.

@quoccuongtran724 4 ай бұрын

a hit to the leg could make you lose balance and fall in the battle then again, any hit to the leg strong enough to chop through bone or smash the bone to pieces can't be reasonably stopped by leg armour either

@jayro6397 4 ай бұрын

"If it's not my thing, I don't have to look at it." Thank you!

@Skallagrim 4 ай бұрын

No idea why that's such a hard concept on the internet, but apparently it is.

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 ай бұрын

@@Skallagrim yeah, and so many people go to stuff they dislike just for the purpose to complain about it. Guess they have nothing better to do with their time than complain about things on the internet.

@felipex6793 4 ай бұрын

@@Skallagrim so it's the same thing with AI created art, right?

@Skallagrim 4 ай бұрын

@@felipex6793 If the AI was "trained" on ethically sourced material, yes. Unfortunately most aren't.

@felipex6793 4 ай бұрын

@@Skallagrim I personally believe that if you want to have the power to tell who can or cannot look at your art, the first measure would be not to publish it online where anyone can access it, but that's just me.

@vampirecount3880 4 ай бұрын

1:38 "They look awfully young" Meanwhile the avarage medieval squire that was 14 years old: "I am a joke to you?"

@ANukeWithLegs 4 ай бұрын

meanwhile the 12 year old Serfs at the Local Noblemans Mansion: Boss I am tired.

@m0-m0597 4 ай бұрын

"The age of industrialized art theft" hit like a ton of bricks, hard to swallow, that's why I go back to traditional art

@OperatorJackYT 4 ай бұрын

Lmffffffffao

@MauricioOsuna-et8et 4 ай бұрын

The only real discrepancy is that it's a girl. Otherwise, quite the curious point. It does take years to learn how to fight properly, after all - it's so silly to see all these games where the character can just grab new weapons and suddenly have whole mastery of how to use them.

@Alias_Anybody 4 ай бұрын

@@MauricioOsuna-et8et I mean, also the part where she's partially naked.

@GallowglassAxe 4 ай бұрын

I do like Ironlily's artwork whether its badass realism, cute silliness, or sexy she does the balance pretty well in my opinion. As for asymmetrical armor I do have a picture of an 16th century Irish kern who is only armoring his left arm. It was also for them to carry a specialized left handed gauntlet to used almost like a buckler. I'll post the picture on your facebook.

@culturalliberator9425 4 ай бұрын

Irish being poor moment.

@Dergownik 4 ай бұрын

'he'

@PJDAltamirus0425 4 ай бұрын

Tbh, ironlily art is essentially anti horny art. It is so well done you want to look at for a long time and there miniture stories, and even the ones that more well endowed, you’ll hate yourself if start having naughty thoughts cus the ironlily castle army is so damn cute. Yeah, skirmishing and cattle raids promote extreme and medium to large shields can get annoying running around rough terrain

@veritasetcaritas 4 ай бұрын

Iron Lily isn't "she". Iron Lily is a Taiwanese man in Taizhong (Taiwan).

@Bacteriophagebs 4 ай бұрын

Regarding asymmetrical armor, a pet peeve of mine is people with one pauldron on the right side. Unless you're using a right-side-forward-only stance like a fencer, which the people in said games and artwork never do, the most important pauldron would be the _left_ one because right-handed opponents will strike that arm more often, especially with two-handed weapons. And even if you had a shield (which, again, they never do), that pauldron would still be more useful for stopping attacks that got over your shield since your shield side would be the one advanced toward the enemy.

@Fenris86 4 ай бұрын

Ironlily, Centuri-chan and several others manage to make a strangely endearing blend of realistic, fantasy, funny and adorable art.

@vroomkaboom108 4 ай бұрын

You mean they ruin what could be perfect art with eastern pedoslop

@EphemeralPseudonym 3 ай бұрын

@marshalmarrs3269women can have the most fucked up sexualities, men are just boring you would not believe how much of the severely fucked up anime 2 is penned by women

@tenanaciouz 3 ай бұрын

Centuri-chan is awful tbh. Repetitive style and the refusal to draw men speaks to their artistic lack of ability

@deevee5327 3 ай бұрын

@@tenanaciouz Yikes

@vroomkaboom108 3 ай бұрын

Bug-eyed jap art = big garbo energy

@elcatrinc1996 4 ай бұрын

A youtuber actually giving credit to an artist and not bashing them for nitpicked reasons? Skall, you're not only a knight, but also a true gentleman

@userofusers5787 3 ай бұрын

in now way he acted like a gentleman in this video lol. his very first gif reaction on twitter was toxic and disrespectful

@nunyabusiness7942 3 ай бұрын

⁠@@userofusers5787 nice bait comment

@cavemann_ 3 ай бұрын

@@userofusers5787googoogaga

@AquaStrategist 3 ай бұрын

⁠@@userofusers5787 Spoken like a true Twitter warrior.

@elcatrinc1996 3 ай бұрын

@@userofusers5787 ... let me present to you this novel concept called "joke"

@graywolfdracon 4 ай бұрын

Weight on the legs is a big deal even if it's just a few ounces. I ran in cross country in Highschool and forgot my running shoes for practice one day. I had to run in my normal shoes which were steel toed boots. The difference was incredibly noticable.

@lscibor 4 ай бұрын

If we're to believe 15th century iconography, it was extremely common for even very well armored infantry to leave lower legs completely exposed, probably for this very reason. On a horse, it's not a problem, as long as you don't have to dismount, and your legs are obviously somewhat exposed sitting still on horseback.

@moreparrotsmoredereks2275 4 ай бұрын

I hate even wearing 2 layers of clothing on my legs, no matter how cold it gets. Makes me feel slow and awkward.

@ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028 4 ай бұрын

>normal shoes >steel toed boots Are you paranoid about things being dropped on your toes???? Why in god's name would you need steel toed boots for *normal* activities???? Do you want to be able to kick a golf ball sized dent into anybody you "normally" see?????

@clothar23 4 ай бұрын

@@ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028 Can't speak for him but as a Mastet Electrician I spend a lot of time on construction sites. Spending up to 10 or 11 hours a day at times wearing steel toe boots just makes normal footwear feel weird. The sensation being akin to not wearing shoes.

@ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028 4 ай бұрын

@@clothar23 I kinda get it in this context, but bro was in *highschool*

@RainMakeR_Workshop 4 ай бұрын

It will never stop being funny to me that people say "go to horny jail, BONK". As a Brit, bonk to me isn't the sound of someone getting hit. Its slang for sex. So sign me up for horny jail if I get bonked lol.

@user-rr8iy6mv5f 4 ай бұрын

Plot twist: horny jail isn't a place where people are sent for being horny, but a place where horny is a main characteristic.

@mycatistypingthis5450 4 ай бұрын

You also need to consider who would populate horny jail.

@williansnobre 4 ай бұрын

The duality of slang

@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters 4 ай бұрын

Got caught for bonking, sent to place for more bonking. Sounds great to me!

@AbyssEyes02 4 ай бұрын

im not british, but its fuuny to because if you think about it you are sending a bunch of horny people to the same place, giving them what they wanted.

@naomi5854 4 ай бұрын

Congratulations you found Iron Lily do Art of Gambarin next I wanna know what you think of her style.

@veritasetcaritas 4 ай бұрын

Iron Lily isn't "her". Iron Lily is a Taiwanese man in Taizhong (Taiwan).

@chin258456 4 ай бұрын

@@veritasetcaritasi think he meant gambarin

@ivanivanovic5586 4 ай бұрын

Cool style indeed.

@SageSegsPaths 4 ай бұрын

Gambarin draws cool warriors!

@reetasingh6297 4 ай бұрын

The Google translate says "Draw draws cool warriors!" @@SageSegsPaths

@LetsTakeWalk 4 ай бұрын

Ah, the Ordo Mediare! The whole concept deserves an anime series.

@Skallagrim 4 ай бұрын

It does, yeah.

@nhall129 4 ай бұрын

I really love ironlily’s art and they always seem super chill

@RebelGiga 4 ай бұрын

The art isn't nude to be nude either. It's genuinely cool how they model the cute characters and pose them. And God the weapons 😩❤

@Iffem 4 ай бұрын

@@RebelGiga hell, a lot of the ones that are just naked are naked because he based them on art from medieval manuals where the person in the diagrams is swingin' dong

@birubu 4 ай бұрын

@@RebelGigathey do have some nude artwork but as a pleasant surprise, a lot of their nude artwork is in casual enough in situation and presentation that it’s not really sexual. These pieces aren’t zoomed in or focusing on particular body parts, it’s just gals chillin or training, probably just wanting to not be weighted down or stuffy after a long day of wearing heavy gambeson and chainmail. The art feels more like a stylized realism piece or an anatomy study than a thirst trap.

@SchemingGoldberg 4 ай бұрын

@@RebelGiga Even if it was nude just to be nude, that's still okay. It's amazing to me how our culture is simultaneously super degenerate, with OnlyFans everywhere, but ALSO super prudish for no reason. Apparently it's fine for real women to be sexualized, but a drawing is going too far.

@RebelGiga 4 ай бұрын

@@birubu yeah it gives that old art portfolio with nude drawings, the nudity isn't the focus of the drawing, the main focus is the accurate articulation of the human body in motion or in a certain position.

@trevorstockwell8290 4 ай бұрын

The artist seems cool and i like how its historical armor

@RomanKuvaldin 4 ай бұрын

04:00 I think main reason why troops prefer body over limbs protection is because of large battles usually involves arrows. Medieval arrors usually left heads inside of wound. So, you technically can press an arrow and push it through limb to get rid of arrowhead, but not tjhrough body. Duellists usually protects only arms.

@Qualab_owl 4 ай бұрын

why would you want to take the arrowhead off in the battlefiled????/

@Kerostasis 4 ай бұрын

@@Qualab_owl You don't have to remove it in the middle of battle, but you do have to remove it at SOME point. And without modern surgical procedures that's really hard to do for a body hit.

@adisca2k 4 ай бұрын

@@Qualab_owl You wouldn't, since you would probably bleed to death. But the same logic can be applied after the battle ends.

@boombomber1 3 ай бұрын

YES. This was my first thought when it came to the lack of body armor... A bunch of short bows releasing sheets of arrows regularly.

@ShinoSarna 4 ай бұрын

The faces aren't really 'young', it's just a cutesy style. They're less childlike and more teddy-bear like. In anime artstyles body proportions are a much better indications of age than faces. (signed, an artist).

@averageeughenjoyer6429 4 ай бұрын

Faces are cats with human flesh

@Mattias_the_unimpressive 4 ай бұрын

Agree! And as long as the bewbs are there you know she can't be prepubescent (and years of age doesn't even exist in drawings as far as I'm concerned)

@PJDAltamirus0425 4 ай бұрын

@@averageeughenjoyer6429 Yeah, the farther along you go into wanting to achieve cutness, the more you model faces after kittens, puppies, and babies.

@Wastelandman7000 4 ай бұрын

Another artist chiming in. With that simplified manga style face its nearly impossible to determine age of a face unless you see wrinkles. Even with some of the more realistically proportioned manga styles its still not easy. Those of us who were Robotech fans will remember Lisa Hayes. The way she was drawn she could be anywhere from 16 - 35 and you'd only know her age from the context of the story. Its worth remembering manga style is not designed to be hyper realistic, its designed to be expressive. Like you said, body proportion is a better indication, but, if they go full chibi on you, that goes out the window too. Basically the best way to know the age of a manga character is to read the manga or watch the anime. For instance, I couldn't give you an age estimate on 90% of the characters in say Naruto or Bleach without knowing the context of the story. Now if you were doing the same illustration in a "realistic" western style you could probably get some clues as to age from the details. But, in styles where details are lacking guessing age is perilous indeed.

@Stroggoii 4 ай бұрын

@@PJDAltamirus0425 Mostly kittens. Human babies can be very awkward and derpy. Kittens are always cute.

@_Jay_Maker_ 4 ай бұрын

Welp. Never expected Skall to unleash an entire new favorite artist onto me, but I'll take it. Ironlily's art is wonderful!

@stevedenis8292 4 ай бұрын

If your armor is cool or sexy it better be highly rated in plot armor.

@Wastelandman7000 4 ай бұрын

Plot armor is the armor of the gods! LOL

@Bacteriophagebs 4 ай бұрын

Personal Lightweight Omnidirectional Tactical armor.

@hanelyp1 4 ай бұрын

Sometime armor has features for psychological effect on the opponent.

@Bacteriophagebs 4 ай бұрын

@@hanelyp1 True, but historically that has always been fear, not sexiness. The only people claiming an opponent would be distracted by sexy armor are the writers of early _Red Sonja_ comics. Even later _Red Sonja_ writers called BS on that, saying that if an opposing fighter is so mentally weak they get distracted by T&A, they're not much of a threat even when not distracted.

@AngelsLance 4 ай бұрын

Depends on what you consider cool and sexy, though. I find the tin tyrant full body plate armor to be extremely cool, and as long as the armor accentuates the female curves, it's still sexy even if it covers everything.

@foex798 4 ай бұрын

7:51 I love the image of Skallagrim, the Grim Reaper, telling me that they ditch the armor "because its sexy" with a smug look on his face.

@Loki_Firegod 4 ай бұрын

I think the best argument for the partial Gladiator armor is that a) they were supposed to get injured (at least a bit) because it increases the spectacle and b) those gladiators with partial armor usually had a large shield. There were heavily armored types but those usually went up against other heavy types, and yes, there are exceptions like the Retiarius that were lightly armored, but their whole deal was being agile and thus possibly defeating the much more heavily armored opponent. Therefore, in any scenario where a person has a large-ish shield, it's quite feasible that the shield side would be less heavily protected. For example, I could imagine an early medieval warrior wearing some kind of bracer (for example, byzantine cheiropsella) and (armored or not) glove on their weapon hand, but not on the shield hand. Depending on whether they've seen depictions of Roman soldiers (I mean, early to high imperial Roman - with segmentata armor) they could even get the idea to add some shoulder protection on one side, but not the other. Also, some lamellar armor had arm protection and it's logical to assume the same about scale armor as well. In late medieval armor, the opposite is true: as shields weren't necessary for full suits of plate armor, you can see the arm and shoulder plates on the left side of some sets being larger than the right side. This could of course also be a pure aesthetic choice, but if you're more likely to be hit on that side, larger (and possibly thicker) plates or double layers would help with that. Kind of like an integrated shield. If you apply this to an adventurer type, dropping parts of the armor and just going heavy on the area you're likely to take hits on - it's not terribly realistic, but it isn't entirely stupid either. I'd also like to say that I am no expert on medieval armor, least of all with anything from the late medieval period, because I mainly focus on early medieval stuff for my hobby. Hence the mention of byzantine armor, which would have been available and known to franks, baiuvars, alamannic, saxon and other european people as well. Thanks Skal for another entertaining, funny and at the same time informative video!

@vladstefan5216 4 ай бұрын

I would also add that unlike a battlefield soldier, Gladiators didn't have to worry that much about large formations/masses of people, or projectile weapons surrounding them. In a formation, your mobility to dodge is greatly reduced, so you better be able to tank hits, especially any random arrow coming your way. In the arena, there are usually no archers, few enemies, and you know that a blow is not going to kill most of the time, mostly incapacitate, so your best play is to ditch the vital armor for extra mobility, and protect the limbs which are going to be targeted the most to bring you down. After all, if one spear thrust to the heart could end a Gladiator on the spot, that wouldn't be much of a show, now would it?

@Loki_Firegod 4 ай бұрын

@@vladstefan5216 Which does add up with the idea of an adventurer type person not wearing full armor - while adventuring, you'll hardly ever fight in tight formation against large groups of opponents, and if you do get in such a situation, you'll propably have time to prepare and put more gear on.

@fluidthought42 4 ай бұрын

Gladiator battles rarely ever ended in death. Most battles were choreographed to reduce injury in the fighters, and weapons of choice included things like nets. We usually only see gladiator deaths when they were deemed too unprofitable to continue to support, meaning it was the equivalent to a wrestler contract expiring or being fired. After all, slaves weren't exactly cheap to buy and train, so actual factual death wasn't the goal, the spectacle of a fight wss the goal. Doesn't mean that Romans didn't participate in bloodsport, the way that the assassin who helped put Nero into power was killed is particularly brutal. I don't even know how they trained a giraffe to do that.

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 ай бұрын

Gladiators were not just fighters but also entertainers. Some classes were deliberately low armored for the spectacle. Or who else would think sending a guy in loincloth with a single armguard, a net and a trident against a guy with a big shield, helmet and sword (but the helmet having only very tiny eyeholes) Different classes being different just makes it more interesting.

@artOVtrolling 4 ай бұрын

@@fluidthought42this is true. It was effectively the proto-WWE but with weapons. Gladiators were also superstars. They would get recognized by fans in public just like The Undertaker would. You could say that they put on such an amazing show that, all these years later, most people still think it was 100% real haha.

@ANukeWithLegs 4 ай бұрын

Moe Knights here to overthrow your Kingdom and look cute while doing so

@clothar23 4 ай бұрын

I for one welcome our sensibly armoured Moe Over Ladies. Now if I could only convince the Space Wolves cutlery is a thing....or at least plates.

@PJDAltamirus0425 4 ай бұрын

Why have cutlery when you have claws? They would just need spoons and maybe gloves and/ wash clothes.

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 ай бұрын

@@clothar23the only thing I could hear is wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf wolf

@clothar23 4 ай бұрын

@@PJDAltamirus0425 *Exasperated Sigh* " This exactly why I can not take you Furry cosplayers seriously. "

@clothar23 4 ай бұрын

@@HappyBeezerStudios You have no idea . Almost makes me feel sorry for Magnus ya know.

@wealthybone2990 4 ай бұрын

Well I never thought I'd ever see Skall interact or know an artist I know but honestly that's great to see and it's funny to see Ironlily respond, I love their work on historical armour but you should check Centurii Chan aswell.

@spamhonx56 4 ай бұрын

Was just about to say the same thing, love centurii's work and heard about ironlily recently, great stuff all around.

@PJDAltamirus0425 4 ай бұрын

Well, Centurii alternates between fun and facts and a lesbian sex/romance so.... he would have harder time making videos out of it.

@wealthybone2990 4 ай бұрын

@@PJDAltamirus0425 Well obviously I wouldn't mean for him to make a vid on her art I just meant as to check her work is all.

@mnk9073 4 ай бұрын

Yes, we absolutely need an analysis of Gyaru-Landsknechts and their cod pieces.

@falfires 4 ай бұрын

He had a run in with Ironmouse too, if I'm not mistaken.

@raisnaix 4 ай бұрын

Anyone who has been to real war has stared into the face of a fellow soldier you wouldn't guess is our of high school yet. The nature of war is that the old send the young to die... the young faces actually probably are more historically accurate.

@maxb3248 4 ай бұрын

Whne you showed their response to your reaction to the original post, I had to paise the video I was laughing so much.

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 ай бұрын

Just a wholesome and cute reaction. From the point that Ironlily made fun of "sexy" armor, to Skal not finding any arguments, to Ironlily cutely hiding the painting.

@Kashak666 4 ай бұрын

for the sake of the algorithm: consider asymmetric weapons and hot climate. If an average attacker is most likely to have shorter weapons you could basically get away with gloves and polearm. Ditching everything else to prevent overheating, keeping legs to fend off local flora\fauna.. Makes sense)

@Skallagrim 4 ай бұрын

Yup, I mentioned overheating. Gambesons are hot.

@rileyernst9086 4 ай бұрын

The threat of being hit by arrows has always outweighed the inclination to wear less armour due to hot conditions. I urge you to look at sub Saharan African armours, and Indian armours.

@clothar23 4 ай бұрын

@@rileyernst9086 They're still wearing less armour then an European Knight. And what armour they're wearing is still thinner , more flexible , and composed of more breathable fabric than said European Knight.

@Skallagrim 4 ай бұрын

@@rileyernst9086 Absolutely. On the battlefield whatever armor you can get is crucial, unless you straight up expire from heat exhaustion. Neat thing about shields.

@ATEC101 4 ай бұрын

This probably also applies to extremely cold climates. How much are you wearing already to keep warm? I still remember how much I wore as a lumberjack working above 9000ft(2743.2m) in waist deep snow.@@Skallagrim

@3k31000 4 ай бұрын

One of my favorite artist is Ironlily. Soo happy to see this inter action : )

@joshc9635 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for standing up for artists! Also, I can't believe there wasn't a single "wear protection" joke haha.

@userofusers5787 3 ай бұрын

he does not stand for artists, just spreads fake news and posts toxic comments on artists he does not understand.

@cavemann_ 3 ай бұрын

@@userofusers5787googoogaga

@skave2710 4 ай бұрын

What's make Ironlily's art great, is that he know how armour are to be wear, and how they work, and even the skippy and silly design work. There is gambeson under the armour, but it's also tied up to the belt on the character's hips. A great artist to follow.

@devin5201 4 ай бұрын

Ironlily's stuff is absolutely incredible.

@jeffreybogard2713 4 ай бұрын

That is such a fun interaction, I'm already following Ironlily on Twitter, and I'm glad you did a video about this.

@zkassai.audio.2 4 ай бұрын

It doesn't surprise me, but it IS a relief to learn Skall is on artists' side on the whole industrialized art theft thing. Having been away from the "medieval history meets fantasy" part of KZfaq for a while now, that relief is very very welcome considering the route that... The Other Guy of this part of KZfaq... went.

@jammydodger222Xxd 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was just thinking that

@TOBY-jy7bz 4 ай бұрын

Who is the other guy?

@VetrDraugr 3 ай бұрын

@@TOBY-jy7bz Shad from shadiversity

@travismelcher1483 4 ай бұрын

Ironlilly does the best landsknecht art. It's hilarious

@Viktor_Git 4 ай бұрын

As someone trying to start a career in digital painting, I'm glad that people from different communities are standing up for each other in these (unpleasant times). Ironlily is a really talented artist and her response to you made me laugh out loud🤣🤣🤣 Good luck and thank you very much for your content)))

@AbyssEyes02 4 ай бұрын

it doesnt matter much, much iron lily is a man

@link319XX 4 ай бұрын

It was the most out of nowhere interaction and it was amazing to see my fav KZfaqr and one of my fav artists meet!

@Tyrany42 4 ай бұрын

Something about adorable anime girls in (mostly) historically accurate armor makes Ironlily an absolute joy to follow! Also Lady Lucerne is a badass💪

@DelinquentChibi 4 ай бұрын

Lucerne and Tart are Ironlily's best character

@culturalliberator9425 4 ай бұрын

If you like to remind yourself of how far we've fallen. Hey, at least it looks nice. (Edit: This isn't ironic. I admire the pencil even if I can not the substance. There are a lot of very skilled artists out there. Even if they draw questionable or even vile content I won't say it's not skillful. It should be fine that I'm not happy and grumble about the culture. If everything you loved was destroyed you'd also grumble on the internet like me. Oh wait, you do don't you?)

@Tyrany42 4 ай бұрын

@@culturalliberator9425 🙄

@culturalliberator9425 4 ай бұрын

@@Tyrany42 Well actually, the normalization of cultural decay will eventually lead to a new... 🤓

@endaburns2121 4 ай бұрын

@@culturalliberator9425 i know right? we need to restore the glorious culture of the past where i would be able to marry children. never forget what (((((((((((((they)))))))))))))) took from you.

@miks872 4 ай бұрын

This is so unbelievably wholesome and I love seeing this kind of collab between the art and the sword communities

@PaladinPvDullahanVt 4 ай бұрын

Good to support ironlily, they deserve the praise and support

@bartolinise9153 4 ай бұрын

top 10 anime crossovers

@m0-m0597 4 ай бұрын

Skallachan

@bartolinise9153 4 ай бұрын

@@m0-m0597 skall-senpai and lily-chan, i need more of that

@m0-m0597 4 ай бұрын

I could draw a kawaii Skall Manga short but no one would see it lmao

@PJDAltamirus0425 4 ай бұрын

It is getting to the point wear small and Clara might adopt ironmouse and ironlily as online children then well out of nowhere that skall and Clara will be having a child together.

@sevneijizawa 4 ай бұрын

Bro, TYSM for this curious interaction with Ironlily (that's a metal name, tryna not make a pun, but...)!!! Though you mentioned asymmetrical armor as weird, etc. it does appear to have some practicality to it: at the human top shelf anatomy, off hand side is armored for cqd (close quarters defense) & general blindside protection (plus back armor. Usually. Anyways...), while less armor is present for the on hand side for cqo (you guessed it, close-quarters offense) mobility; lower body you might have more equalization of armoring, but the emphasis points are reversed to a degree. So sedentary or nomadic warrior &/or barbarian tribes have a pretty good idea to do all of this bc of warrior intertribal tensions possibly nosediving to the 9th circle of frozen assed hell.

@alabasterindigo 2 ай бұрын

That intro was so great, you’ve been my favorite swords-and-all-things-related KZfaqr for forever and hearing you rally with artists is amazing, thank you 💖

@zombiesteve566 4 ай бұрын

The art was cool, the reply funny but I really love the in depth way the topic was handled, a crazy amount of food for thought that all started from a single image guess that's art for you. Loved it great video

@TheWoodWraith 4 ай бұрын

That response genuinely made me laugh harder than really any other interaction I've seen

@Akashua_Bloodriver 4 ай бұрын

That interaction between you and Lilly was so adorable and wholesome and hopefully we'll see more like it. Also not gonna lie, the best fantasy armor system i've seen in any form of media was in The Elder Scrolls 3 Morrowind, where you could wear a shirt and pants under your armor which consisted of boots, greaves/leg armor, a chest piece, two gauntlets which you could mix and match, two shoulders which you could also mix and match, and a helmet but after all of that you could also wear a robe over your armor too. Plus some of Morrowinds' armor designs are easily some of my favorites in the entire Elder Scrolls series.

@BlackSabbath628 4 ай бұрын

Have you played Kingdom Come Deliverance? That uses a similar system to Morrowind where you have layers of clothing and armour. I don't think it goes quite as far as Morrowind though. Iirc, KCD just has head armour, shirt, chest armour, surcoat, legs, leg armour, footwear, gloves / gauntlets and jewelry. I don't think you can mix and match handwear and footwear either.

@aziouss2863 4 ай бұрын

IRON LILLY!!! I literally have their works saved from years ago! I am so happy they get recognition for their work!

@DarkusWarrior 4 ай бұрын

As someone who follow you and Ironlily, this video bring a smile in my face.

@sergeysmirnov1062 4 ай бұрын

You interacting with Ironlily is something I never knew I needed XD Another fun in is that i saw another of those pics with three of Ironlily's chars missing chest plates in the stereotpyical bikini armoir style - all while in one corner there's a human silhouette with dots on its limbs in reference to the survivorship bias chart

@jonb914 3 ай бұрын

The survivorship bias chart is the first thing I thought of when I saw this. "So we're seeing that soldiers returning from battle are mostly taking wounds to the arms and legs..."

@theunoriginaljess 4 ай бұрын

this,, genuinely made my year, 2 of may favourite creators, i love it all, your assessment, their concepts, i just love it all

@MonkeySimius 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for linking to her bio. I scheduled through some of the stuff on the dead bird platform and she just comes off as incredibly fun and creative.

@anzerupnik1442 4 ай бұрын

Love Ironlily art. Accidentally stumbled on it on FB.

@ferretzim8694 4 ай бұрын

The point you made about backpacks reminded me of they way I chose to transport a kayak. I put it on a trolley, and then hooked one end of the kayak to a climbing harness around my waist. That way, I could just casually walk with it following behind me. Then it was just a matter of keeping a hand on the handle to keep it from bouncing from side to side as I walked.

@animalxINSTINCT89 4 ай бұрын

I recently started following Ironlily and instantly fell in love with the style. So happy that this crossover is a thing

@chibigamer8867 4 ай бұрын

Heck yeah! Love Ironlily's stuff, and its cool that you're showcasing their stuff!

@learnedsearaider6744 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for giving so much respect to Artists!

@theghosthero6173 4 ай бұрын

This gives me a topic idea: is wearing a single gauntlet better on your sword hand or your offhand? Parrying gauntlets existed and were popular for exemple in Ireland, but using a gauntlet on your main hand is also known. Might be an interesting topic

@foldionepapyrus3441 4 ай бұрын

That would largely depend on your sword of choice IMO - as if its guard is of very limited protection the hand you are exposing most really needs all the help it can get. But if the guard of your sword is really good a gauntlet might even actively get in the way of using the sword. So I'd suggest there is a cross over point where you probably just want two gauntlets, but would be able to justify either hand.

@thebootycallofcthulhu826 4 ай бұрын

I'm so fucking happy Ironlily is getting fame, absolute treat seeing you and them in the same space skall :)

@ZOMBchief 4 ай бұрын

Been following Ironlily for a while now. Gotta admit I was surprised to see your comment myself! Fun video, and thoroughly enjoyed this very wholesome interaction

@CalamityCain 4 ай бұрын

Great little video, Skall, thank you! :) I've been trying to come up with a cool but also practical look for a female dwarven warrior, wielding a halberd and a crossbow. It's for a story, but I still try and draw up a design if only to visualize her for myself. I'm not into "sexy art", but Ironlily's "Lucern" warrior and "Sister-at-arms" are both going to be very helpful in finalizing my design process. The built of the women they draw is pretty damn close to what I imagine a fierce dwarven woman to look like. I really appreciate you both - so thank you :)

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 ай бұрын

Ar your dwarves short and stocky or just small? Because a lot of that bulk comes from armor.

@CalamityCain 4 ай бұрын

@@HappyBeezerStudios The former. And yeah, sure, armor can be bulky. But I'm trying to choose bulky armor, if just to fortify a dwarven warriors stout silhouette. And the women shouldn't be an exception in my book (literally). A thick padded overcoat, a gambeson is just one step to emphasize what I imagine when I picture dwarven physique. I just love that concept of the ironclad dwarven defender archetype - but I really want to give her a halberd :)

@emperordraygon 4 ай бұрын

I've been following Ironlily for a long while on Tumblr, always loved how realistic her armour depictions are! Awesome to see her getting some interaction with the HEMA(-adjacent) community (whom I've been following for longer and were the reason I came across Ironlily in the first place)!

@Surryfox 4 ай бұрын

Ironlilys definitely a huge inspiration when it comes to any sort of realism/fantasy art. I love how their style is deceptively detailed and so well shaded and painted for how simple it actually looks.

@DaddyHensei 4 ай бұрын

It’s so nice to see something fun and lighthearted in these times. Been having a hard month. This helps.

@bl4cksp1d3r 4 ай бұрын

Ironlily makes amazing art, I was laughing at your interactions c:

@ogre7699 4 ай бұрын

Funniest fucking reaction I've seen from Twitter. God, it's actually pretty fun, when Twitter is not actively trying to be the worst thing ever. Still ain't going to actively participate in that godless place though, despite how absolutely unhinged I am. That shit takes a piece of your soul every time you dive deep into it, I swear.

@raccoonking7566 4 ай бұрын

I kinda have to, got perma'd off of Reddit (another godless place, I was too based for it) so I have to get my bimonthly fix of arguing with idiots. The only benefit of both is that I can get my degeneracy fix without going to mainstream companies.

@m0-m0597 4 ай бұрын

Nice religious touch in your comment

@copathechopa2802 4 ай бұрын

I have followed you both for some time. What a glorious collision!!

@18Krieger 4 ай бұрын

That was great and I hope more people see the work of Iron Lily. Such a great artist with a unique style.

@hamstermk4 4 ай бұрын

I love Ironlily's art style, that she made a custom picture response to you is a great honor.

@TheDb884 4 ай бұрын

One of my favourite twitter accounts, glad to see them get more attention!

@okami36 4 ай бұрын

Been a fan of Ironlily for a while now. Love their art.

@SupCom78 2 ай бұрын

that was real interesting the up and down the pros and cons thx for uploading it and ironlily is a real artist i like the style not bad at all.

@phntmthf5505 3 ай бұрын

It would be one hell of a distraction tactic, that’s for sure

@Zajuts149 4 ай бұрын

Ironlily makes the best wholesome art, together with Diva's "Little nuns". I would love to have a mod for Crusader Kings that put her Ordo Mediare all-female military order in Brittany during the 100-years war.

@runes_7711 4 ай бұрын

AWESOME!! thank you for supporting Ironlily, Skall!!!!

@sRtAoIrNm 4 ай бұрын

Unironically love videos like this where you analyze the effectiveness of absurd armors/weapons

@gstvntt 4 ай бұрын

I see the benefit of intentionally showing the opponent a weak spot in order to drag his attacks to it and then counter

@dominion7363 4 ай бұрын

conversly, the distraction school of offense

@aqz7603 4 ай бұрын

If theyre using a blade, simply having plate mail means their cuts or stabs likely weren't going to do much anyway. Even if you can predict where they will attack, the added vulnerability is a bigger drawback than just being invincible everywhere. If they're using a blunt weapon designed to beat armor, like a hammer, it doesn't really matter where they hit you. Any powerful strike is going to kill or cripple regardless.

@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei 4 ай бұрын

Although you're always entering an additional layer of skill contest doing that. There are enough cases of people during training and whatnot trying to trick someone just to be too slow/clumsy to actually get something out of it or even get hit.

@tombom6643 4 ай бұрын

Now he just have to find Centurii chan 😅

@power-armoured_german9856 4 ай бұрын

Skallagrim finds Gyaru Landsknecht. Hilarity ensues.

@icey_john 4 ай бұрын

is that the mauchautl girl?@@power-armoured_german9856

@PajamaPantsStudios 4 ай бұрын

I saw that out in the wild on Twitter! I’m really happy you made a video about it 👍

@l0rf 4 ай бұрын

Big fan of Ironlilly and I follow hem on facebook and instagram. And I am very happy you and them got along so well.

@benjaminloyd6056 4 ай бұрын

Draw me like one of your French Knights.

@Scorci 4 ай бұрын

Insightful, beautiful, I love their art!! What if the flashing between the swings is intentional?? Hmm? Mid swing distraction spell! Catching an opponent off guard is invaluable!!

@ibigfire 4 ай бұрын

Might have some decent benefits, agreed.

@lail8262 4 ай бұрын

Found a new cool artist to follow. Certainly wasn't expecting this from Valentine's day video. Thanks~

@FabiTheSnake 4 ай бұрын

Bro is making me a fan withing the first 43 seconds, -thumbnail appreciation. You got a sub man.

@Ataximander 4 ай бұрын

Centurii chan next please!

@BE02Raziel 4 ай бұрын

Had to stop what I was doing to watch this. Very unexpected interaction but fun.

@youremakingprogress144 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great video, yet again. I really enjoy the breakdowns of the technical aspects of these things, and the "because it's cool, that's why" depictions provide interesting counterexamples to help demonstrate the point. Also, Ironlily's art really is impressive. I'm going to check it out.

@ashaide 4 ай бұрын

Just wanted to note the accidental Full Metal Alchemist cosplay when you put on the plate gauntlets with that red hoodie :D And hooray for your interactions with Ironlily that turned into an equally awesome discussion on partials. This helps for armor research in my Worlds, thank you.

@HappyAspid 4 ай бұрын

Recently played Kenshi. Quite an amount of cool armor concepts there. Played as martial artist with augmented arms and legs + good helmet, with minimum armor on torso. Guess when most of my defeats started? With character being gutted into stomach with the rest of body mostly unharmed.

@ham_the_spam4423 4 ай бұрын

I like the flavorful descriptions in Kenshi like how Heart Protectors are SUPPOSED to be worn over padding or chainmail but you see Dust Bandits who wear it over their bare chests because shirts are expensive, and I remember reading somewhere ingame that some people prefer wearing wooden sandals instead of armored boots to be more mobile

@Reflexion555 Ай бұрын

@@ham_the_spam4423 Another funny armor in Kenshi is the Assassin's Rag, which is described as being very poor armor, but the opening is supposed to make your attacker more predictable. It gives dodge bonus for being light, but then both the stats and gameplay disagree with it helping its user: It lowers Melee Defense, making it more difficult to parry, and also poorly protect your chest and stomach which are the two biggest targets in combat (and thus more likely to be hit).

@TheOlsonOutfit 4 ай бұрын

Drawing out her response is epic.

@delmattia96 4 ай бұрын

IronLily and Centurii-chan deserve all the love and attention!

@fennicfox4600 4 ай бұрын

I love Ironlily's response so much. It just makes me laugh.

@Valdyr_Hrafn 4 ай бұрын

BASED SKALLAGRIM CALLING OUT "INDUSTRIAL ART THEFT"

@leonhard.doerflinger 4 ай бұрын

True. In contrast to certain others.

@Tyrany42 4 ай бұрын

@@leonhard.doerflingerOof… those others… 🤢

@PJDAltamirus0425 4 ай бұрын

@@leonhard.doerflinger Yeah, it is flipping wierd Shadiversity recognizes the dangers of AR and VR yet doesn't recognize AI generated art as a tool for vast art theft and plagiarism machine and as a tool to make people things happen that didn't.

@Wastelandman7000 4 ай бұрын

Yep. Though I suspect this type of art AI won't last all that long. Sooner or later it will be used to make porn of a celebrity or of someone's kid and it will be sued into extinction.

@Valdyr_Hrafn 4 ай бұрын

@@Wastelandman7000 sadly that's already happened a lot, and nothing happened yet. our current economic system incentivizes its existence, so its going to remain until it gets illegalized

@hideus_ex9222 4 ай бұрын

Ironlily is one of my favorite artists because of the style, and I'm glad Skall is not only aware of them but actually made a video featuring their art. :)

@claudiuskeat8336 4 ай бұрын

I'm a long time fan of Skallagrim and I've been seeing Ironlily on Facebook. This video is a treat! That approaching Skall art is god damn hilarious XD

@ajgodinez 3 ай бұрын

i love ironlily!! I'm happy you found each other!

@silverjohn6037 4 ай бұрын

0:58 I feel Skallgrim's pain. Every man reaches a point were all those 18 year old's that look so mature when you were a kid start looking like daughters. And not hot farmer's daughters. Just... daughters.

@shorewall 4 ай бұрын

For real, I used to drive by a high school, and the kids looked like Middle Schoolers. Lol. And now even women in their 20s look like kids to me. (Act like kids too. :D)

@None38389 4 ай бұрын

As someone who grew up in asia and now living in america I have the problem in reverse, non-asian highschoolers tend to look like they are in their 20s to me and even some middle schooler looks like adults. And me myself as a 35 year old asian man is constantly getting mistaken by people as a highschooler.

@silverjohn6037 4 ай бұрын

@@None38389 I saw a KZfaqr talking about growing up tall in Japan (he was apparently 180 cm by the time he was 13 and grew even taller later). At his elementary school graduation he was mistaken for one of the teacher's aids.

@jarnMod 4 ай бұрын

Ironlilly is one artist that shows armor can be drawn accurately and look good on female body. Anime style face is always look young. It's cultural at this point. In comparison, American art always have either flat face like cartoon or look old otherwise. It's just how ppl draw ppl

@alanshezar8163 4 ай бұрын

Great video! I'm a huge fan of both of your work.

@drakoslayd 4 ай бұрын

Ironlily is my favorite artist. Seeing my favorite artist and one of my favorite history channels interacting made me laugh

@tsarzamancorpdna 4 ай бұрын

we're crossing the timelines with this one

@CDKohmy 4 ай бұрын

The Irish (and some lansknechts) sometimes opted for just armor for the left arm.

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 ай бұрын

because that is the arm that is towards your opponent. And even if you have more armor, the left side comes first. Your shieldarm is there to take the blows and your swordarm stays mobile to hit from all angles.