Parts Needed for a Automatic Overdrive Classic Ford

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What does a 4R70W really cost to put in a classic Ford Mustang?
Episode 587 Autorestomod
4R70W Transmission:
$120.00 Salvage Yard to $2300.00 Fully rebuilt
Throttle Position Sensor:
$200.00 average, depends on carburetor
Flex Plate:
$65.00 Summit Racing
Block Plate and Cover:
$50.00 National Parts Depot
Torque Converter nuts:
$25.00 Amazon
Grade 8 Bellhousing bolts:
$10.00 (7/16 course thread two 2 inch the rest 1.5 inch long)
Crossmemeber:
$180.00 National Parts Depot
Transmission Isolator:
$16.00 National Parts Depot
Transmission lines
$32.00 1997 Explorer on Amazon
Controller:
$745.00 US Shift Quick 4
Neutral Safety Switch:
$30.00 Amazon
Aluminum Driveshaft:
$530.00 Summit Racing Equipment
Angle Finder:
$20.00 Amazon
Fluid:
$100.00 Amazon
Optional:
Center section:
$920.00 Quick Performance Posi, 3.25, built case
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Episode 46 Manic Mechanic
• Ford 8 8 rear end vs 8...
00:00 Introduction to 4R70W Parts Needed Video
00:12 Yoou will need a 4R70W transmission for your Mustang
00:51 You Will need a TPS for the 4R70W in your classic Mustang
01:55 Flex Plate and Engine Plate and torque converter nuts for classic Mustang
03:45 Transmission Crossmember and mount for 4R70W in old Mustang
08:55 You Might want the Neutral Safety switch for the 4R70W
09:49 What Drive shaft do you want for the 4R70W
16:54 What fluid for the 4R70W in your 1967 Mustang
18:32 What will the total cost of an 4R70W be in a Classic Mustang
21:19 End of Video
22:49 Transmission Jack 4R70W

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@davidrigley9956 2 ай бұрын

Next project on my '75 Mav is new gears with LSD and AOD. Talked me into 4R70W. Great info. Thx!!

@82randyacman Жыл бұрын

Love the content really helps with my project. Thanks

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@kevingriggs640 Жыл бұрын

Rebuild one yourself transmission bench has a classroom video and all the parts you need. I did mine with no problems he walks through it step by step.

@RealWorldGarage Жыл бұрын

I’ve rolled the transmission off of the jack to get it out from underneath the car before, then wrestled it back onto the jack underneath the car with help.

@MattsRageFitGarage Жыл бұрын

I have had to slide the trans under the car on a piece of cardboard then push on the trans jack with my legs while pulling a C6 with a gearvendors OD onto the trans jack at the same time while under the car. Not fun!

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

Oye. Lots of grunting I bet.

@WoodandMetalGarage Жыл бұрын

looking forward to the install

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

We are too.

@timothygoodsell1446 Жыл бұрын

Great info. I have the terminator x max Holley system and it works with the 4r70w

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

Thanks. We just could not remember the system in the "heat of battle" LOL

@johnbarker5009 Жыл бұрын

Lots of good information here, thank you. I agree with you about steel or aluminum lines where possible. The OEMs did it that way for a reason. NHRA limits the amount of rubber fuel line on a car for a reason. You see people pulling flex line the whole length of the car with A/N fittings. That's a lot of money to spend on something you can do with hard lines for a lot less money and in some ways better. Oh, and a trans cooler? Yeah. Just do it. Heat will kill an automatic transmission fast. Count me among those who want to know why you aren't a fan of disk brake swaps. I want the best brakes I can reasonably get on my classic. Modern traffic is too crazy.

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words!

@johnbarker5009 Жыл бұрын

@@AutoRestoMod you're quite welcome, and btw I just went up to edit something I said. I'd like to know why you aren't a fan of rear disk brakes, since you asked if we'd like you to comment further on a future video.

@kevinbaker8102 Жыл бұрын

I have a70 ranchero w/ c6 I run braided line remote cooler and remote oil filter w/fl1a spinon filter Works great

@mycontinental3611 Жыл бұрын

My 4R70W came out of a 98 Ford Explorer. My 75 Gran Torino 351W original flexplate and spacer plate worked with 4R70W.Also my Torino had 2 cross member frame pads.I think the rear pad was for a C6.I was able to the rear pads on the 4R79W. And I have the original explorer cooing lines. Im just going to radiator trans cooler .Never had any problems in the past. Im using the US shift quick 2 controller . Keeping it simple. I have Ford 9inch with 3.0 gear ratio. And I'm sticking with rear drumb brakes . Using Mercon V. Thanks for the great info.

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

Was the flex plate a 164 tooth? I seem to remember that some 351s had the larger ring gear.

@mycontinental3611 Жыл бұрын

@@AutoRestoMod Yes.When I was researching flex plates I realized mine was already the correct one.

@johnb7430 Жыл бұрын

If you are going from FMX to AOD or 4R70W, the original FMX flex plate should be fine. Ive done both and used the FMX flex plate without issue.

@itneverwasme Жыл бұрын

Good news, I have a 71 cougar with FMX I want to swap.

@jeffdiehl8394 Жыл бұрын

the AOD trans did evolve from the FMX design platform, so that makes sense!

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

Yes.

@donreinke5863 Ай бұрын

There were two different converter diameters used in 4R70W transmissions. Be sure to use the proper converter.

@relaxnewmexico7619 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@jaygribbin6790 Жыл бұрын

When you accelerate particularly with a leaf spring car the diff nose will lift as the tyres bite (equal and opposite reaction) so it pays to run the pinion nose down a couple of degrees so it comes up level.

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

Yes.

@markshalloup3569 Жыл бұрын

I ran my trans cooler lines thru the Radiator then thru an OEM Ford air cooler I picked off of a F-150 at pick a part.

@highrzr Жыл бұрын

For me, I've got a 64 Cruise-O-Matic that's just not going to cut it with my build. The options I'm looking at are a 67 C6 (I have) or a 4R75W (don't have). Either are going to take some fabrication in my 64 Galaxie. The 4R75W will require more, but will bring overdrive and programmable transmission parameters. I intend to run 3.70 or possibly 3.89 gears in the 9 inch. I am not thinking of using anything other than the 9 inch rear.

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

4R70 might be challenging in the Galaxie at the tailshaft housing. Option would be a Gear Vendors Overdrive and the C6

@sounddevicesmike Жыл бұрын

This is great. I'm planning to do the 4R70W in a 66. I'm curious about what pan you end up going with. I've read that you can swap over an AODE pickup and pan to get rid of that nub on the bottom, vs going with the larger deeper pan you used on the Fairlane swap. Looking forward to more videos on this install. Heck, maybe you can do mine next.

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

LOL. We have a couple in the works one in a 2004 Ranger that will be getting a 5.0 swap.

@SuperBossman9 Жыл бұрын

I’m glad Cam mentioned it, the 4R70W is a metric transmission all the fasteners including the torque converter nuts are metric. That includes the mount bolts.

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

Agree on all but the torque converter nuts. Those are a 3/8"-24 thread.

@SuperBossman9 Жыл бұрын

@@AutoRestoMod that’s interesting mine checked out as a metric thread, but they were messed up. Are they all that size normally?

@donreinke5863 Ай бұрын

@@AutoRestoMod Correct..as with all Ford automatics including the French made A4LD

@RocketMan66666 Жыл бұрын

I have two AODs laying around. One I got with my car and one I got with my engine. I don't know that state of either. Guess we'll find out on first drive lol. Would be interested to see that thermostat controlled external cooler. I've been thinking about doing something like that for a while, but haven't quite figured out all the parts yet

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

We might go there but it won't be soon.

@kevingriggs640 Жыл бұрын

I used a additive in my transmission fluid haven’t had any issues

@niftyfox3424 Жыл бұрын

This is very helpful! Quick question if I’m running the terminator Holley x. Do I still need the quick 4? Thanks! I’m currently building a 92 Notch!

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

According to the sstuff I read, no. Not sure i the wiring harness is a part of the kit or will have to be purchased seperately.

@jedclampett6466 Жыл бұрын

I used a 4L60 from a full size 1990 Chev van for my swap in my '71 F250 highboy. Chugs down the road 68 MPH at 1750 rpm

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@eddiemcgregor3685 3 ай бұрын

Hey guys. Love your vids! I'm doing this to a '74 F100. What did you do for speedometer cable? Thank you.

@AutoRestoMod 3 ай бұрын

You may have to have a custom one made for your application on ours we just used our stock Speedo cable for the 69 Fairlane.

@scottdore132 Жыл бұрын

Another option for carb guys is full manual valve body for the 4r70w if you don't want the electronics

@donreinke5863 Ай бұрын

The other option is to use the wide ration 4R70W planetaries and high capacity clutch packs in the hydraulically controlled AOD.

@edcucchiarella7994 Жыл бұрын

Question, what did you use for a TPS on the wagon I assume it is on the carb, was it the 4100? I would like to keep my 4100 if possible when doing a 4R70W in my 66 Ranchero. FYI after watching your video's on the install on the wagon I hunted down a C6 crossmember I am close to start the project down to the TPS issue.

@SuperBossman9 Жыл бұрын

You can get a tps with a small bracket that fits on the side of a Holley, I picked up one from Summit.

@alintodirascu5091 Жыл бұрын

I am going to be installing a 4r70w in my 1968 Mustang as well. The list is really helpful, however, I can't find some of the parts like the driveshaft from Summit. Would you be able to add part numbers on the list to help identifying the correct parts?

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

The list was primarily to allow for pricing. As we install the parts we will list them out.

@lewiscausey687 6 ай бұрын

You Were talking about Explorers. Would a 1998 Explorer V8 and transmission go in a 65 fastback mustang? I'm trying to figure all this AOD stuff out.

@Tom-ki3lq Жыл бұрын

I am looking forward to this install. I have a 66 mustang with a 351 Cleveland (yes Cleveland not W) narrowed 9 inch and want an auto with OD still deciding on AOD or 4r70w. What do you think?

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

4R70W, unless you tap Lentech Automatics, is the best way to go with higher horsepower. I'd still go to Lentech for the racing transmissions.

@jwrockets Жыл бұрын

My '71 Mach 1 was 302, C4, 2.79. No tach so idea what RPM I was running.

@rustyzipper6304 6 ай бұрын

Dropping a 5.0 out of a 96 Explorer into a 65 F100. I've converted it over to carb instead of EFI. I bought a 4R70W out of a 2000 Mustang, it has the correct bolt pattern to fit behind the 5.0. I also got the flywheel and the torque converter from the same Mustang. Just want to know what tooth count and weight on the flywheel? Also, can I theoretically use the torque converter out of the Mustang with the 5.0 or do I need one specific to the 5.0? I just want to make sure I'm using the correct combination of parts to get this to work together cohesively. Thanks.

@AutoRestoMod 6 ай бұрын

Any 5.0 built after 1983 will have a 50 oz. imbalance. So if you have a transmission, flywheel and torque converter from a pushrod 5.0 out of that 2000, it will work.

@overbuiltautomotive1299 Жыл бұрын

megashift TCU usa made 420.00 bucks last i look at it universal works on many units i ant used one yet but it work well from what i am told on loads of slush boxes. IT PAYES DIVIDENDS TO Stock GRADE 8 / 10.5 or what ever good Q all threaded rod / nutz to have on hand to make bolts studs saved my rear end yea tasks time but all so takes time to drive 45mins each way to bolt store

@ozielmadrigal9374 Жыл бұрын

I have a 71 351w and plan on installing a aod behind it what flex plate and intermediate plate do you recommend ?

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

National Parts Depot: Block Plate, Rear Engine, Oem Style Aluminum Plate #M-7007-11B Inspection Plate, A/T, Oem Spec Aluminum, Repro E2sz-7986-A #M-7986-4B Summit Racing™: SFI-Approved Flexplate SUM-G111SFI

@donreinke5863 Ай бұрын

I will not have an electronically controlled transmission. Fortunately, the AOD can be built using wide ratio 4R70W components. Ive done a few of those.

@AutoRestoMod Ай бұрын

Okey dokey

@ronbelldvm Жыл бұрын

I'd love to hear why you're not a fan of rear disc brakes on classic cars. Also, thanks for the info on the 4R70W. I just picked one up to put in my 76 Bronco that I am getting ready to start building. I did the AOD swap in my 73 Mach 1, and that was pretty easy, to be honest, although it did require some work to make it all fit and play nice.

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

We're on it! We'll be doing the rear brake episode soon

@genebagwell1709 Жыл бұрын

Would love to hear why you don't like rear disk brakes in classic cars

@AutoRestoMod Жыл бұрын

We'll be doing an episode on that.

@racinjason68 7 ай бұрын

@@AutoRestoModif you don’t like the disc then get an 8.8 out of an 91-94 explorer. They were still rear drum. And find the 3.55ls or (D4) 3.73ls gear set.