Pass a Prop Firm Or Your Challenge Fees Back!

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Lisa Forex

Lisa Forex

6 ай бұрын

What if there was a way to pass a prop firm risk free, with a robot. Well, now there is with PropEA. Check out the math, and see for yourself.
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@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Prop EA : lisaforex.com/propea
@martw3240
@martw3240 6 ай бұрын
damn Lisa, why weren't you my mummy
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
lol
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
@usa4ever711 lol no idea. Sometimes youtube doesn't notify me of all comments
@hunnypuff9620
@hunnypuff9620 6 ай бұрын
Hey Lisa, just wondering is it possible to put the ea on 2 prop firms?
@boeroe45
@boeroe45 6 ай бұрын
Nice concept! Excited to see you progress and further extensive testing. Thank you Lisa!!
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@denizguner1899
@denizguner1899 6 ай бұрын
Lisa you’re a legend ! I love your channel your videos and your mindset ! Thank you 🙏🏽
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! Keep an open mind!
@ckchevrier3
@ckchevrier3 6 ай бұрын
Another great video Lisa, I'm also excited to see how this goes for you as you keep testing :)
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@jorgecamara1030
@jorgecamara1030 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your support 👍 great video information
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 3 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@AnthonysTradingChannel
@AnthonysTradingChannel 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make the video.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@spectruthmetaverse3414
@spectruthmetaverse3414 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing. I wish I knew months ago but appreciate learning now. TY
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
You are so welcome
@uforex911
@uforex911 6 ай бұрын
wow, i have never seen any youtubers with this kind of energy. Thank you for making this. You may not know much the impact is big !!!
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@user-le5ni4pk8t
@user-le5ni4pk8t 6 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your efforts ❤
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Thanks 😊
@andereastjoe
@andereastjoe 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this Lisa. Will be checking this out. It's a hedging system right? 😊
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
yup
@NEXOMANA
@NEXOMANA 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting mathematics! ☺ 🔥
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
🔥
@fabiodias1027
@fabiodias1027 6 ай бұрын
Great video Lisa, only in the funded part of the account, FTMO would not accept an account that goes all in, it would have to be divided into more trades
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Yea, you can adjust the ea to take smaller trades
@ricardon5787
@ricardon5787 6 ай бұрын
Very smart concept
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
such a simple concept, yet so mind blowing
@alek_dlb
@alek_dlb Ай бұрын
Fantastic Lisa, tutorial strategy use, my darling
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@pabloschlebos
@pabloschlebos 6 ай бұрын
Wow. This almost sounds like "too good to be true". But it makes sense. Thank you for sharing this.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
The math adds up
@jamesmurray5345
@jamesmurray5345 6 ай бұрын
Looks good 👍🏻
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@mikamanty28
@mikamanty28 6 ай бұрын
Cool idea to hedge prop challenge with private account. This did throw me into another rabbit hole as an algotrader. This is interesting thought experiment to try to make it work. Perhaps even in practice. I think it would be enough to hedge just the challenge. Live account could then need to be properly traded without personal hedge i think...
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
There are many possible strategies. I've tried to keep it simple for the masses, and show just the one option
@jonedow2381
@jonedow2381 5 ай бұрын
Hey Lisa, thanks so much for the nice review. I'm a new trader, so wondering what live broker are you using? Any good recommendation for residents in EU please?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 5 ай бұрын
I'm using Go Markets, IC markets and 8cap. This might not be suitable for EU
@briankelly2037
@briankelly2037 6 ай бұрын
Very nice, Lisa. Risk free trading - the holy grail! I suppose this concept should work with any EA where you are trading the EA on the prop firm account and, in reverse, on your real account. There may be discrepencies in order entry due to the different feeds at the brokers but the end result should be close enough. As far as the balance needed in the real account, if the real account is at 500:1 leverage and the prop firm account is at 30:1 then $3k should more than suffice for a $100k challenge account - assuming the prop firm EA does not generate drawdowns of 50%! I don´t understand how this system works on funded accounts, though. Does the Slave account just shut down once it has incurred a $500 loss, on the assumption that the Master account will cruise on to victory (without reversing to register its own $500 loss)?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Check out the trades ive shown
@user-gi4ug4ot9l
@user-gi4ug4ot9l 5 ай бұрын
Hi Lisa this looks really good. What account size would you need in a personal for a 25k challenge? Thanks
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 5 ай бұрын
The vendor says at least 3x the cost of the challenge
@adamatkinson3689
@adamatkinson3689 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic idea. I feel that this system is already being used by those who guarantee to get your acc funded or money back. And hedging in trading has many advantages when done right. The trick is always in the math. But having a simple system using the copy trader is very creative 👏
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
yea, pretty simple concept. The math is the trickiest
@Thomas-vg4em
@Thomas-vg4em 6 ай бұрын
I think you're underestimating the copy trading/strategy allocation rule issue, esp. if the number of users is growing
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
I really don't see this as an issue. But understandable this system is not for everyone
@user-xr1yb4rh2g
@user-xr1yb4rh2g 4 ай бұрын
Hi Lisa, I watched the video several times but I didn't understand some things. Should the live account leverage be equal, greater or smaller than the prop account leverage? To speed up the process of passing or failing the prop challenge, is it better to use a higher leverage on the live account? Thank you
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 4 ай бұрын
Here is an updated video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6tiedek0pu7ln0.html
@briankelly2037
@briankelly2037 6 ай бұрын
Maybe passing the Challenge phase more or less risk free is enough to ask. If your master EA is good enough to get you to the Evaluation phase - where you can then pass even with cutting your risk in half - that sounds like a good deal to me.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Yup, tweak the system to do whatever you want. Many possible strategies here
@orlandostevenson7214
@orlandostevenson7214 6 ай бұрын
Wow- this hedging strategy to get to funded accounts makes sense! And straightforward to cobble together, test, even without the purpose built EA, with reverse trade copier and some demo accounts.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
yea, pretty nifty
@andereastjoe
@andereastjoe 6 ай бұрын
Hi Lisa, what's the minimum leverage for the personal acct? And if we can get a high leverage acct, does it mean we only need fewer than 3K? Thanks in advance
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
No, you would need more than 3k to cater for leverage.
@lawchoonhong
@lawchoonhong 6 ай бұрын
Hi Lisa, I did some math, if u passed phase 1 and phase 2, your own account is loss at (-500) + (-1000) usd + (-500 challenge fee) total will be -2000usd, then if funded u failed at -10%, u get back +1500usd is not enough to cover the total -2000usd. U only get funded cost +500 back if u are able to profit at funded stage.
@zueragamesinsano3853
@zueragamesinsano3853 6 ай бұрын
If you pass the 2 phases and do not get a profit or a refund, you will lose the amount in the account to purchase the prop and 500dol, double, just lose the value of the prop. But if you succeed, you lose the value in the real account, but gain the greater profit from the larger prop account. in addition to the cost of the robot.
@gojdff
@gojdff 6 ай бұрын
What greater profit from the larger account? You need to pass phase 1 & 2, by that time you are negative on your real + challenge fee, so there is no profit at this point from the larger account, you will only see your refund fee after trading the bigger account, then you could get your profit percentage + challenge refund fee. Am I wrong?@@zueragamesinsano3853
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
The diagram already shows the different routes, and how the break even and profis are achieved
@seyoxx5929
@seyoxx5929 6 ай бұрын
What balance on a live account would you recommend and with what leverage for a 50 k propfirm challenge, is 3k with 1:500 lev enough?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Have a go with the math.
@blarz7156
@blarz7156 6 ай бұрын
Wouldn‘t it work with even less capital? By buying 4 prop firm accounts and executing 4 trades simultaneously, 2 buy trades and 2 sell trades to pass first phase and then with the last 2 accounts, you could pass the second phase and hopefully get funded. What do you think?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
I considered that, but it seems more risky
@zueragamesinsano3853
@zueragamesinsano3853 6 ай бұрын
How does the total cost variable work? Do I enter the value to make the proportional entries? although it is still the same proportion every time.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Check out the screenshot of the settings
@phongchan1752
@phongchan1752 6 ай бұрын
hey Lisa, I wonder if forex-ea can automatically turn off before news?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
This is about prop ea
@teamleadjosh
@teamleadjosh 6 ай бұрын
Great idea, but I think the part you're forgetting is the 5% daily drawdown limit.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
that's included in the settings
@Forexalgos
@Forexalgos 5 ай бұрын
The problem is not just just passing the challenge however, if you believe you can just pass the challenge what you will do afterwards when you receive the funded account
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 5 ай бұрын
I have a bunch of robots ready to go
@rajagudipudi5586
@rajagudipudi5586 Ай бұрын
Simultaneously opening positions in opposite directions on different accounts is prohibited by most of the prop firms like True Forex funds, Infinity. opening a long position on one account and a short position on another account at the same instrument, price, and time is not permitted. How did you overcome this ?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx Ай бұрын
the rule applies between prop firms, not your personal account. They don't have access to your personal account.
@jamesrutherford2
@jamesrutherford2 6 ай бұрын
Interested to see how this goes
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
@jamesrutherford2 Thanks for the support!
@musicaparadormirymeditar6213
@musicaparadormirymeditar6213 3 ай бұрын
What broker and prop firm would you recommend for this strategy?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 3 ай бұрын
The prop firm industry is very shaky at the moment. I'm staying out for now.
@ahashdahnagila6884
@ahashdahnagila6884 6 ай бұрын
Lisa, can a person trade cryptocurrencies (like BTC/USDT) with a funded account? Or, is it just standard currency pairs?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
it differs with prop firms. Some allow it
@user-sg4ol7dl6f
@user-sg4ol7dl6f 6 ай бұрын
Can you make a full proper video with full details like 5% on phase 2 with 10% drawdown limit please
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
once all the testing is complete. for now, 1.5 / 6 is done
@nigelmiller951
@nigelmiller951 6 ай бұрын
Which EA do you recommend? Ok sorry found it. Which broker on there platform did you choose?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
I'm using FTMO and GO Markets in these examples
@simofx
@simofx 6 ай бұрын
One question: when you are funded, you won't immediatly get refund, so if you lose from the funded, you will lose 500$ and gain on your personal 500$, but now you are at -500$ not at breakeven right? Or did I miss something? Because at phase 2 you were at -1000 on your personal, if you lose the funded you gain 500$ on your personal, so now you are at -500$..
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
you can adjust how much you make / lose in the settings
@chartingwithliv
@chartingwithliv 6 ай бұрын
This is the real reason they didnt used to allow copy trading btw, i remember speaking to staff in TFT last year and it was like a qna sort of this and someone asked why they would not allow EA's or copy trading and the staff member stated people were arbitraging challenges with copy trading across other firms. This was when they were starting to acquire the tech for background dashboards and the firms started sharing ip addresses of trades with one another!
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
I doubt my broker is sharing my trades with prop firms
@chartingwithliv
@chartingwithliv 6 ай бұрын
@@LisaForexx No not that, your method is different as you incorporate a personal account. Im talking about the strategy you have was being replicated across multiple PROP firms themselves.
@MrSchwood
@MrSchwood 5 ай бұрын
@@chartingwithliv Do you think what you mentioned above could work, so long as you use two different devices (two differrent IP Adresses) and two different EA's? Could you then go undetected?
@gtx2083
@gtx2083 4 ай бұрын
@@chartingwithlivsame question
@chartingwithliv
@chartingwithliv 4 ай бұрын
yes @@MrSchwood
@hemaya2003
@hemaya2003 6 ай бұрын
Hi Lisa, If we can do this with one step challenges it will be faster
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
go for it
@user-sg4ol7dl6f
@user-sg4ol7dl6f 6 ай бұрын
Hi lisa i have a question. How would we be able to make 1000 dollar on 5% when the first stage we made 10% and it was 500?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
We'll find out with testing
@3kosty3
@3kosty3 6 ай бұрын
i have question i found a bot on mql5 that cost 250usd in back test the resluts are too good,is there a way try back test better befor buying
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
if you've already back tested, the next step is forward testing by buying the EA
@Marco94deva
@Marco94deva Ай бұрын
Hi, I followed the video with great enthusiasm. But there is an error in the explanation, Ftmo refunds the purchase fee only in the split and not after phase 2. So if you lose in the funded game you have to recover $2000 and not $1500 :)
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx Ай бұрын
see the updated version of the video : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6tiedek0pu7ln0.htmlsi=dkN0WqR79vBt5WuX
@denizguner1899
@denizguner1899 6 ай бұрын
Hi Lisa what size should the slave account be for 200k challenge please ?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
I've shown the stats for a 100k account. A 200k account would be double that
@uforex911
@uforex911 6 ай бұрын
I have tried to get into prop farming but it is hard and this seems to give a lot of hopes to many people. I think there are some prop firms that we can do just 1 stage challenge which means we may be able to use this method and then just use some good EAs for the funded accounts
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
When you move into 1 stage funding, it may be possible, but usually they have worse ratios of TP vs SL
@wajahatdar4486
@wajahatdar4486 3 ай бұрын
Hi Lisa, great video. Two Questions I have sorry are: 1. Per your 100k example at the funded stage if you lose you show you make $1500 in your real account but you lost 1k at stage 2 and 0.5k at stage 1 and cost of challenge 0.5k would mean you need to make 2k in your real account to breakeven if you fail the funded stage, can you clarify? 2. The cost of this EA is not factored in could you potentially put that with the challenge cost as your initial cost?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 3 ай бұрын
After a bit more testing, here is an updated video with correct numbers to cater for phase 2 TP smaller than TP, and when the refund happens : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6tiedek0pu7ln0.html
@constantine243
@constantine243 6 ай бұрын
And you are charging hefty amout for your copy ea which cancels out your strategy in first place
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
This is not my ea. I am testing it out.
@camrinroczey4587
@camrinroczey4587 6 ай бұрын
Hey Lisa - I’ve actually done a ton of tested with this exact method over the course of the last year and I’ve seen a ton of success, and have learned a lot as well. I’d love to share findings with you if you are open to it! Let me know the best way to connect! Thanks for the video, very well put together!
@pablodominguez2945
@pablodominguez2945 6 ай бұрын
Hey! Do you have an email to contact you? I’m really interested in knowing more about it. Thanks in advance!!
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Hey, I"m on discord via Patreon www.patreon.com/LisaForex
@nelsonma4711
@nelsonma4711 5 ай бұрын
I guess the main question is if you purchase a 100k challenge what’s the balance you need to have in your real account to ensure you’re not going to get stopped halfway challenge??
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 5 ай бұрын
The vendor recommends at least 3x the cost of the challenge
@ianforsyth2692
@ianforsyth2692 6 ай бұрын
For the smaller FTMO accounts, as an example, the 25K challenge, what was the minimum deposit for your real money account? Is 3.5% of the challenge amount a good figure?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Have a go with the math.
@ianforsyth2692
@ianforsyth2692 6 ай бұрын
@@LisaForexx For 25k, 3.5% would be $875 USD, but I wasn’t sure that was right-it is in proportion to the estimated $3500 in real money-you said a little over 3k if memory serves-that you recommended for the 100k account in your video. Not sure about this EA though; the licensing is on a subscription basis-does it work as an expense on a 25k challenge account? And I wonder if you could do the same thing taking the opposite side of the trade in your RM account with another EA over the prop firm account and you manually triggering the trades in the RM account. Less automated, but no annual license fees. I don’t think it works on a 25k account when you expense the recurring license costs.
@ThePropEA
@ThePropEA 5 ай бұрын
@@ianforsyth2692, In general, for a 2 phase challenge you would need to have in your live account about 3x the cost of the challenge, and for a 1 phase challenge you would need 1.5x or 2x the cost of the challenge.
@demarcusseymore6613
@demarcusseymore6613 6 ай бұрын
So is there a way to do this with two funded accounts from different prop firms?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
you can try. the math would be very different
@mk_4567
@mk_4567 6 ай бұрын
I have been working on this and know how to make this successful, there are going to be some problems that occur
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
no worries. that's what testing is for
@mohdzaidi6608
@mohdzaidi6608 Ай бұрын
Do you need trade copier for this? Or EA can work stand alone?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx Ай бұрын
You don't need a trade copier, as the EA will do it fo ryou.
@mohdzaidi6608
@mohdzaidi6608 Ай бұрын
@@LisaForexx thanks Lisa.. keep it up.. and maybe u can make a video about this EA update..
@davlight971
@davlight971 5 ай бұрын
one issue: on the third stage: if you failed there is no refund so you would need 3500usd right not 3000
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 5 ай бұрын
There are many strategies you can take with your funded account..its really up to you how aggressive you want to be
@CuongHoang-yt7do
@CuongHoang-yt7do 6 ай бұрын
It makes sense unless prop refuse to pay you. It happen everyday.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
yea, it is still risky as the prop firm industry is dodgy
@fabiodias1027
@fabiodias1027 6 ай бұрын
Hi Lisa, we will have an end-of-year update? xD
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Unlikely. The market is moving very slowly, and I am going on holiday soon
@semenkofx244
@semenkofx244 6 ай бұрын
damm this is nasty the infinite money glitch i love you thank you
@mk_4567
@mk_4567 6 ай бұрын
I have been working on it for 8 months, and there are many learnings along the way which are important in order to succeed
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Ahhaha good way to phrase it
@gtx2083
@gtx2083 4 ай бұрын
@@mk_4567same here man, mind if we connect to share ideas?
@mk_4567
@mk_4567 6 ай бұрын
I have been working on this concept for 8 months, I would love to work with you and share some important learnings
@briankelly2037
@briankelly2037 6 ай бұрын
If after 8 months of work it remains a concept I guess that means there are problems with this strategy.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
I'm on dicsord via Patreon www.patreon.com/LisaForex
@humbus-capital
@humbus-capital 6 ай бұрын
Not sure. The concept seems clever, but this probably is not my style. So much just to pass the challenge, if this becomes popular and people just go for first payout and then account is blown, then the prop firms are going to make changes as it is not sustainable for them.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
You can always adjust the strategy to have smaller trades
@hunnypuff9620
@hunnypuff9620 6 ай бұрын
is it possible to put the ea on 2 prop firms?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
i wouldn't recommend it
@reylozada5637
@reylozada5637 6 ай бұрын
Is it true the Prop Firm is paying only every quarter? Why it is too long. Is there a Prop Firm paying monthly?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Not sure which prop firm you're referring about. TFF pays twice a month.
@gojdff
@gojdff 6 ай бұрын
Lisa, I do not understand the advantage of the first example where you show a 25k phase 1 challenge that achieved $2,500 but your real lost $291.70, can you please explain it? So far in that scenario, you are out of the challenge registration fee + the loss of the real account....
@GhostsRreal66
@GhostsRreal66 6 ай бұрын
If you take a challenge that refunds your fee after passing then you would be break even.
@gojdff
@gojdff 6 ай бұрын
So, it only works with Phase 1 challenges? Cause if not after Phase 2, you have suffered double the losses on your real, and recover the challenge fee you still have to trade in order to get your first payout + challenge fee. right? @@GhostsRreal66
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
This is already explained how you recover your funds in the video
@gojdff
@gojdff 6 ай бұрын
On that first scenario you did not talk about the profits. it was a trial account, but assuming you were to pass to phase2, you're still in a loss from the real account.@@LisaForexx
@sillymew4057
@sillymew4057 6 ай бұрын
Hi Lisa, I don't recommend doing this as I was BANNED on FTMO for using a similar hedging startegy. It's against thier TOS and they can detect which EA's you are using.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Thanks. You can adjust the strategy to take smaller trades instead of the big single trade. They can't detect if you use a trade copier, and mix up the magic numbers and comments
@lReXl
@lReXl 6 ай бұрын
Does the leverage of the live account have to be identical to the prop firm leverage?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
nope
@lReXl
@lReXl 6 ай бұрын
@@LisaForexx Thanks Lisa! One more thing, will prop EA automatically place those small orders to fulfill the minimum number of trading days if profit target is reached day 1?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
@@lReXl I'd just remove the ea, and do it manually
@lReXl
@lReXl 6 ай бұрын
Noted, thank you@@LisaForexx
@bonusfusiontrader6374
@bonusfusiontrader6374 29 күн бұрын
In prop firms of american futures, is possible?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 28 күн бұрын
I haven't tried futures myself
@bonusfusiontrader6374
@bonusfusiontrader6374 28 күн бұрын
@@LisaForexx using apex funding?
@FuF3x
@FuF3x 6 ай бұрын
You dont explain how you get your money back if you lost like in your example you have almost lost so how is that breakeven who pays you your money back ?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
no one pays you. you are trading your own live account. That is how you get your money back
@FuF3x
@FuF3x 6 ай бұрын
Oo shit wait I missed the beginning of the video
@talalmh
@talalmh 6 ай бұрын
What’s the cost of the EA?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
best to check their website at lisaforex.com/propea
@JackobJackob32
@JackobJackob32 6 ай бұрын
This is a nice idea, but unfortunately, it is does not have to work... Taking opposite side of losing trade, does not make it a winning trade unfortunately, both of your account can blow up, or market can hit both long and short stop losses before taking any profits. Also slippage, ask / bid and trading costs is not accounted for.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
This system wont appeal to everyone
@UnemployableFakeGuru
@UnemployableFakeGuru 6 ай бұрын
Spread and cost are marginal
@jaredlye1949
@jaredlye1949 4 ай бұрын
only ftmo?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 4 ай бұрын
Thats just an example
@jverghese80
@jverghese80 6 ай бұрын
but all of this is against ftmo tos....no?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
I understand prop firms join together to share data... but i doubt brokers are sharing their trades with all the prop firms.
@pokerbarloahavia
@pokerbarloahavia 6 ай бұрын
I think your math is wrong prop firms just give a refund on your first payout so if you fail in the funded stage you will be at negative 500usd
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out. I'll double check and adjust
@DedSec44
@DedSec44 6 ай бұрын
@@LisaForexx He is right, if you fail in the funded stage you will be at negative 500usd
@uforex911
@uforex911 6 ай бұрын
I think we just need to get a good EA or strategies to survive funded stage and then blow it as many times as we want
@uforex911
@uforex911 6 ай бұрын
note I check with the support and they say we can blow as we please
@seyoxx5929
@seyoxx5929 6 ай бұрын
Just dont trade the first month on the funded stage and make the minimum of 100 dollars and play it safe so you get your refund. Then on the secound month you can trade normal.
@bigtex4790
@bigtex4790 Ай бұрын
Anyone have success with this? Is it a scam? Only asking because I got burned by another channel offering something similar…
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx Ай бұрын
It is a probabilyt game. Sometimes you'll win, sometimes you'll lose. I've managed to get myself 100k+ in funded accounts with this tool which I am still trading.
@smetljesm2276
@smetljesm2276 6 ай бұрын
Hmmm Very interesting. Gotta watch slowed down and do some math now.😅😅 Thank you Kind of looks like you are doubling your exposure in real funds if the challenge goes well.😅 Only if you manage to get funded and you can recoup losses on real account
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
Good luck with the math! A couple of tweaks need to made that I found through testing, which I will show in the next video.
@smetljesm2276
@smetljesm2276 6 ай бұрын
@@LisaForexx Great thank you.😊😊 The price seems to defeat part of the purpose for the EA. It's a very high subscription. Please also address how that comes into play. Thanks 🙏
@Harto-ng9xm
@Harto-ng9xm 6 ай бұрын
Hedging 💀
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
yup
@FuF3x
@FuF3x 6 ай бұрын
The math works but if to many people use this the prop firm will ban this very shortly..
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
thanks for your input
@Aximus25
@Aximus25 6 ай бұрын
won't be banned, simply because it isn't against the rules, plus the EA adopts to the changes
@sideshowben1982
@sideshowben1982 6 ай бұрын
Guys be careful that your not breaching your terms on prop firms, technically hedging two different accounts is cheating in thier eyes.
@nyakegomathebula2980
@nyakegomathebula2980 6 ай бұрын
Only when you get caught 😂
@briankelly2037
@briankelly2037 6 ай бұрын
Hedging may be a violation if it occurs on a prop firm account but this is not a prop firm account. And besides, how can they possibly know or care what transactions you are doing on your own "real" account when those transactions are not copied to their account? I don´t see any cause for concern, especially if you are separately running your own EAs.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
agree. i doubt my broker sends all my trades to all the different prop firms for verification
@An3mon3s
@An3mon3s 6 ай бұрын
If I'm not wrong, this is hedging/reverse trading which is prohibited across most prop firms (you should clarify with them first). Even though you're using a third party software and personal broker, this video is evidence that you're executing this strategy and they may flag you for violating their T&Cs. Just be careful.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
good points
@tradingrules2228
@tradingrules2228 5 ай бұрын
Rubbish - it sounds very much like a cow boy job. (A.) you didn't tell us the $499 fees to buy this EA, so if you are break even, you lost $499 already and (B.) The monthly $25 cost of VPS. So when you say break even in 1st Phase then its $499+$25 and when you fail in seconds phase then it's $499+$25+$25. Instead you are providing your affiliate link so people will click and you make money. C'mon Lisa, have some respect for your subscribers, dont rip them off for an affiliate money.
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 5 ай бұрын
Personally I really like this EA, and not everyone will agree
@StopsniffingkidsJOE
@StopsniffingkidsJOE 5 ай бұрын
@@LisaForexx @tradingrules2228 you forgot to add in the cost of your computer 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mk_4567
@mk_4567 6 ай бұрын
I have very important thing to talk to you about this, how can I contact you?
@LisaForexx
@LisaForexx 6 ай бұрын
I'm on discord via www.patreon.com/LisaForex
@mk_4567
@mk_4567 6 ай бұрын
@@LisaForexx I can't make that payment, is there any other way to contact you
@dutchcube565
@dutchcube565 6 ай бұрын
@@mk_4567don’t be cheap
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