Passenger Hurt as Another Boeing Plunges at Ground

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Early reports on a Boeing 787 plunging toward Earth.
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@oldmanbanjo
@oldmanbanjo Ай бұрын
Jeez, I really wish their whistle blowers would stop dying.
@alexdasliebe5391
@alexdasliebe5391 Ай бұрын
Such curious bad luck, no?
@dewiz9596
@dewiz9596 Ай бұрын
Everybody dies, eventually. . .
@BeckiMuttley
@BeckiMuttley Ай бұрын
@@dewiz9596 especially if they are a Boeing whistleblower
@6StringPassion.
@6StringPassion. Ай бұрын
@@dewiz9596 Exactly. Whistleblowers just do it faster.
@donaldsalkovick396
@donaldsalkovick396 Ай бұрын
And here is a prime example of a mindless sheep who believes everything the mainstream media shovels down their throat
@erikliljenwall8185
@erikliljenwall8185 Ай бұрын
I can't imagine a pilot going back to the cabin and telling passengers "Man, I don't know what happened. All the instruments just went blank all of a sudden." That is obviously BS.
@frankiebhoyz2169
@frankiebhoyz2169 Ай бұрын
Maybe he knew he fucked up and was trying to cover for it. I wouldn't completely dismiss someone who was actually on the plane
@Bvetube101
@Bvetube101 Ай бұрын
Suppose if even the primary gauges went blank, you have secondary standby gauges that you can then use to navigate. It's not like the pilots of the 787 don't know how to fly and resolve blank display issues. They'll have been trained to deal with such situations so I'm sorry but I'm not buying that statement at all
@KarmaFlight
@KarmaFlight Ай бұрын
I'm a Captain at the same outfit as Kelsey, and I agree that this a utter BS!
@tetsi0815
@tetsi0815 Ай бұрын
@@frankiebhoyz2169 Yeah.. right... According to avherald who quoted a preliminary report the incident happened ~4pm NZ time. The plane apparently landed on 4:26pm NZ time. So there is a pretty good chance the CVR has recorded everything that happened in the cockpit at that time. Why the heck would a pilot try to cover their butt by telling a random passenger "uhm... all intruments went black"?! That makes absolutely no sense.
@user-nu1sq2fz8s
@user-nu1sq2fz8s Ай бұрын
​​@@KarmaFlightbut this is the second time Boeing 787 nosedives. The first time was in Dubai a year ago 787- 8 variant . They say it was pilot mistake back then. The second pilot was plunging the plane to the Arabic sea
@amberhoward7807
@amberhoward7807 28 күн бұрын
I love how Kelsey doesn't want people thinking that unrealistic expectations are okay to think and doesn't want people thinking their life sucks just because they can't be perfect like all these tiktokers and KZfaq influencers... I have so much respect for you Kelsey and it is a huge reason why I always keep coming back to watch your content. Just a wholesome outstanding guy who also keeps it real for us!
@TheTophat1962
@TheTophat1962 Ай бұрын
You, sir, just listed my worse case scenario of dying. Laying on the desert floor, dying of sunburn, and definitely no snacks. You're the greatest. Keep up the good work.
@toda2638
@toda2638 9 күн бұрын
The no snacks sent me. I was getting visions of the Burden in My Hand (edit: man, it's really late for me to mix up my Soundgarden references!) music video and then went to someone able to move but just laying there yelling "SNACKS!" and lost it!
@ettcha
@ettcha Ай бұрын
When Kelsey brings out the food scenarios, you know he's dead serious!
@ginkat1318
@ginkat1318 Ай бұрын
Fluffy side of life, lol
@tomr3422
@tomr3422 Ай бұрын
Its all a big cover up- the pilot was tired of waiting for a snack, he nosed down to get the snack cart to the cockpit
@Soundbrigade
@Soundbrigade Ай бұрын
You mean SNACKS?!
@---l---
@---l--- Ай бұрын
Don't get between a Pilot and the Snacks
@johnp139
@johnp139 Ай бұрын
They had a choice between fish and steak. Right, I remember, I had the lasagna.
@zirconic9
@zirconic9 Ай бұрын
"Dying of sunburn and lack of snacks."
@Derfboy
@Derfboy Ай бұрын
I think that is the most pilot thing I've ever heard! 😂 I freaking love this community. Lol
@sunshinensprinkles9322
@sunshinensprinkles9322 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂🤙🏼✌🏼
@RememberThisShow
@RememberThisShow Ай бұрын
I grew up poor in Florida, I almost died of sunburn and lack of snacks everyday.
@markridgaway3060
@markridgaway3060 Ай бұрын
This is also my biggest fear and I'm not a pilot.
@hollygolden9673
@hollygolden9673 Ай бұрын
Snacks are the blood of life. 😂
@ShionWinkler
@ShionWinkler Ай бұрын
I love the growing habit of people getting angry for being told they are wrong by an actual expert.
@RandySnarsh
@RandySnarsh Ай бұрын
Happend again today, 12 people injured in a turbulence above Turkey. Was Qatar Airways so i guessing a Airbus. 2 Airplanes in 1 week having an turbulence accident involving injured people and death.
@brettbuck7362
@brettbuck7362 8 күн бұрын
Indeed - but, with all due respect to everyone involved - pilots are the level worst at "explaining" things with supreme confidence that they don't understand. Always, in every case, it's "I'm a pilot..." and many times, with two pilots, whoever has accomplished more denigrates anyone with less career standing points that out, so prove superior authority. But that doesn't mean they actually understand how the airplane works in any detail, or accurately. Some do, most don't, and the more complicated the system the less they understand about it. Several of the youtube "aviation experts" are absolutely awful about it, the arrogance just radiates.
@kwilliams3161
@kwilliams3161 7 күн бұрын
@@brettbuck7362what do you fly
@carlandrews5810
@carlandrews5810 6 күн бұрын
​@@brettbuck7362surgeons are another class like this
@bamagal1992
@bamagal1992 Ай бұрын
I have a son that flies a heavy for the Air Force. He is probably leaving for the airlines in the near future. I have not only enjoyed your channel, but have learned so much, without asking my son a million questions every time we talk! Thank you for being a sane and humorous voice as a commercial heavy pilot.
@thesentientneuron6550
@thesentientneuron6550 Ай бұрын
Thank you for being the amazing parent you are! You may not know it, but I’m sure your son enjoys talking to you about this stuff because you can understand him.
@ennui7778
@ennui7778 23 күн бұрын
​@@thesentientneuron6550agreed. What a great parent, and role model: maintaining curiosity and the initiative & willingness to learn even later in life. I agree I think their son is thankful to have a parent like them, willing to do the basic effort to inform themselves enough to ask intelligent questions And have intelligent conversations about his specialty/current and future line of work.
@Juan-ll6sf
@Juan-ll6sf Ай бұрын
As a passenger, I only unlock the seat belt when the warning light is off and I'm standing to go to the bathroom. Upon return, I fasten the seat belt again.
@cobramom3
@cobramom3 Ай бұрын
Me too
@scbtripwire
@scbtripwire Ай бұрын
Same. All those stories of people getting sucked out are scary as hell. 😨
@d.e.b.b5788
@d.e.b.b5788 Ай бұрын
@@scbtripwire I initially read that as sucked off, couldn't think of why that would be scary.
@DamianSzajnowski
@DamianSzajnowski Ай бұрын
Boeing aside, people disregarding the instructions and getting up waiting standing for the stairs for 15 minutes while we're still moving, is very annoying and dangerous.
@first2find
@first2find Ай бұрын
Same here. I'm to old to be bouncing off the ceiling.
@gregfaris6959
@gregfaris6959 Ай бұрын
The part about the Captain coming back and telling passengers he lost all his instruments really strains the far reaches of credulity. Aside the fact that a temporary loss of flight instruments would not make the aircraft respond in any way, the very LAST thing any airline captain would do if such a thing were to occur would be to get out of his seat and go back and tell all the passengers about it!!
@jerryw6577
@jerryw6577 Ай бұрын
@gregfaris6959 Considering how easily offended some of the younger generations are, and how noisily they announce it to anyone in sight, such a situation is not unimaginable in the future.
@djsaidez271
@djsaidez271 Ай бұрын
@@jerryw6577Generation complaints aside (keep in mind we’re mostly too young to fly airline yet), I’d like to believe that those who make it far enough to be an airline pilot would learn the professionalism to not do that in this situation
@RonBand01
@RonBand01 Ай бұрын
Airbus had that problem on the A330 when it first debuted and it turned out to be a software issue (the computer started compiling at a certain time) and they did not dive or crash.
@Andreabay90
@Andreabay90 Ай бұрын
@@jerryw6577 be bitter because things are changing and you dont understand it. part of the problem is old people believing a whole generation is somehow incapable
@earndoggy
@earndoggy Ай бұрын
Yeah I kinda didn't believe that bit either.
@philjimmybob5650
@philjimmybob5650 Ай бұрын
As a former professional pilot (recently retired), one thing that could cause the nose dive is a trim malfunction. The airplane is trimmed nose down due to a malfunction and then the autopilot kicks off. When the autopilot kicks off there will be an abrupt pitch down. So there's one explanation for ya.
@OriginalAustinOblivion
@OriginalAustinOblivion Ай бұрын
Sadly not an aviator but an aviation enthusiast in a flight company for the U.S. ARMY…. This is what I was actually thinking as well. I’ve read up on incidents involving trim malfunctions, and this explanation makes sense
@fouzaialaa7962
@fouzaialaa7962 Ай бұрын
but trim is very slow
@bluefluke7585
@bluefluke7585 Ай бұрын
Now we know why you are a former professional pilot.
@philjimmybob5650
@philjimmybob5650 Ай бұрын
​@@bluefluke7585 No accidents or incidents in 30 years as a pro, so hope that's good enough for ya. Not that I haven't made any mistakes in my career, but thankfully nothing serious.
@321captain3
@321captain3 Ай бұрын
@@bluefluke7585Why would you say that to someone that you don’t know anything about? Just being a troll?
@adamd858
@adamd858 Ай бұрын
I am a GA guy too. I’m a private pilot with about 1100 hours I am by no means qualified to even comment on any of the highly complex systems in any commercial aircraft. I can explain the physics behind how planes work all day long, because for the most part whether it’s a Cessna 172 or an A380 the physics is the same lift is always lift drag is always drag, etc. but that’s about as far as my understanding of big commercial jets goes… that being said if you asked me to guess what happened, moving a tray into the yoke accidentally by pressing a button on the seat would certainly not be one of the things I would come up with. I have no idea where this guy came up with that theory, but I am with Kelsey it makes absolutely no sense at all. So anyone reading this please don’t think that all private pilots are stupid just because of one guy. Edit I just asked my father-in-law who is a commercial airline pilot (a320) and he came up with about 15 scenarios of what caused this and guess what a tray smashing into the yolk from a button on the seat wasn’t one of them either
@me.isEmpty
@me.isEmpty Ай бұрын
"I've done all of the possible scenarios that involve me and food in that seat. ALL OF THEM." The way he said it was just so sympathetic😂
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Ай бұрын
the plane said go for the ground🤣
@amb865
@amb865 Ай бұрын
Hard to imagine Kelsey as “fluffy” even with all the snacks
@jokerace8227
@jokerace8227 Ай бұрын
All of them? Oh, I suspect he's too good of a guy to do a scenario or two that just came to mind. LOL
@illygah
@illygah Ай бұрын
u2 pilots have to eat lunch out of a tube in their space helmet..... we let commercial crews get away with too much
@beestingza
@beestingza Ай бұрын
I'm picturing that scene from Airplane! where the pilot is flying while the stewardess is describing all the symptoms of food poisoning and it culminates with him slumping forward over the yoke and the plane going into a dive. 🤣
@tomr3422
@tomr3422 Ай бұрын
Cmon - the pilot was tired of waiting for a snack, he nosed down to get the snack cart to the cockpit
@FlyMIfYouGotM
@FlyMIfYouGotM Ай бұрын
That's how you get express food service!😂😂😂
@vividthespis
@vividthespis Ай бұрын
it would go in the other direction. 😂
@mikeperry2814
@mikeperry2814 Ай бұрын
@@vividthespis Not if he reduced speed a bit!
@marlinweekley51
@marlinweekley51 Ай бұрын
Problem: the snack cart became weightless and went to the back and ceiling of the plane like all the unbuckled passengers 🤪
@LeighArredondo
@LeighArredondo Ай бұрын
@@vividthespis 🤪🤣
@korrilis
@korrilis Ай бұрын
As a former flight attendant, I would say the switch at the back of the seat is to help attendants who might need to take and injured/sick pilot out of their seat. I remember training for that and having to remember where the buttons were on all the different types of aircrafts we were flying on. A button at the back of the seat would be a definite improvement for us in medical situations. Maybe it’s also helpful on the ground for the maintenance people. In both case it would prove helpful for people needing to move the seat without actually being seated in it
@ranziey8273
@ranziey8273 14 күн бұрын
Does the button move the seat backward (which would make sense when helping a pilot as you said) or forward as the KZfaqr said? Would the button be located on the back of the seat where a knee of someone behind the seat could activate it? Does it move the seat all of the way or do you have to hold the button down to move it where you want? Just wanting further information and knowledge as I hadn't even known about the complication of needing to move the seat to get in it. Thanks.
@bluegizmo1983
@bluegizmo1983 Ай бұрын
Deleting content or comments makes you look bad 100% of the time, doesn't matter what your reasoning was! Glad you called them out for it.
@jonathanbott87
@jonathanbott87 Ай бұрын
So hate speech and threats shouldn't be deleted? What about dangerous misinformation? Unverifiable information? I didn't look to see what Kelsey's bio shows, but it can be hard to prove a comment is from an authentic acct and not a rando.
@Fleato
@Fleato Ай бұрын
@@jonathanbott87 i think the point is if people delete something and pretend it didnt happen then it is sus. if like youtube or something removes it yeah it should obv be removed. (especially considering the hanous shit that is left up on this platform, so if it was removed it must be particularly agregious.)
@dezmodium
@dezmodium 26 күн бұрын
The guy in that tiktok is some hothead investor bro. He's not interested in being corrected or correct. Modern snake oil salesman.
@donjuce
@donjuce 25 күн бұрын
Too many people unbuckle their seat belt , I always stay buckled throughout the flight and have never had an incident in 30 years
@relishcakes4525
@relishcakes4525 20 күн бұрын
​@jonathanbott87 genuinely, hate speech shouldn't be deleted, nor should anything else. Removing hatespeech only protects the dingus speaking hate and then allows our governments to bend the meaning of the word "hate speech" so that it ends up meaning "anythinf opposite of the government narrative". That's already happening by the way because of that attitude. We should be teaching people to be resilient instead of crying because words they don't like were said.
@GlasVelo
@GlasVelo Ай бұрын
'On the fluffier side of life.' and 'Dying of sunburn and a lack of snacks.' Love it Kelsey!
@FirstLastOne
@FirstLastOne Ай бұрын
I actually felllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll forward on my keyboard LMAO!!! 😂🤣😆
@bluefluke7585
@bluefluke7585 Ай бұрын
😆LOL 🤣
@arnom1885
@arnom1885 Ай бұрын
It's so refreshing to have someone like you out there sticking to facts reason and logic and not social media hype and clickbaits.
@C0mmanderX
@C0mmanderX Ай бұрын
except he clickbaited the title and said it nosed down and plunged down to earth. when thats not facts at all and is entirely hype and clickbait
@MultiChrisjb
@MultiChrisjb Ай бұрын
@@C0mmanderX The only part that's misleading is the 'boeing' part, implying it's about another plane manufacturing fault.
@hansgruber2509
@hansgruber2509 Ай бұрын
What facts did he present? Zero just per speculation of the incident. This guy is a Mega Karen crying about a deleted post
@soundservices950
@soundservices950 Ай бұрын
@@C0mmanderX Nah. He simply repeated what's being said in legacy media... to make the point about misinfo.
@soundservices950
@soundservices950 Ай бұрын
@@hansgruber2509 Actually he presented several facts that discount the tik-tokker's pure speculation. 1-It takes a lot of force to disengage the ap with yoke movement, not just a bump. 2-You can't suddenly ram the seat forward with no time to react, the seats move quite slowly with plenty of time to move or even stop/reverse it. 3-Instruments going blank, by itself, does not cause the plane to plummet toward the ground. And more...
@jamesrice4072
@jamesrice4072 Ай бұрын
By the way, the reason I love your videos is YOU DONT DELETE COMMENTS that don't agree with your narrative and are willing to admit WHEN YOU ARE WRONG. I never delete my mistakes, i openly acknowledge them and move on.Shame on that man. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
@cats1900
@cats1900 Ай бұрын
"Pilots are lazy" has me laughing. You are always entertaining and educational!
@hawkmaster381
@hawkmaster381 Ай бұрын
A pilot reacting that slowly in a slow-moving seat kind of reminds me of the security guard screaming in front of the steam roller in Austin Powers.
@rdfox76
@rdfox76 Ай бұрын
"You're about to get killed by a ZAMBONI!"
@SuperSpecies
@SuperSpecies Ай бұрын
or the TSA in South Park
@KelseyDunlevy
@KelseyDunlevy Ай бұрын
​@@SuperSpecies"sir, I gots to check your @$$hole!" 🤣🤣🤣
@spOOkytimes
@spOOkytimes Ай бұрын
🤣 or Tina Belcher learning to drive in a basically empty parking lot with one other parked car and somehow managing to hit it going 2 mph.
@hypothalapotamus5293
@hypothalapotamus5293 14 күн бұрын
​@@rdfox76 The deadpool zamboni thing is sort of gruesome, though. Imagine making an ice rink pink by spreading someone's blood on it.
@chrisgraythereal
@chrisgraythereal Ай бұрын
I'm imagining the search and rescue chief briefing their team: Kelsey came down in the desert and will die of sunburn and lack of snacks if we don't find him. His life expectancy is about 20 minutes, 30 if he finds shade!
@macmcleod1188
@macmcleod1188 Ай бұрын
Quick! We need a drag queen Stat! They are masters at throwing shade.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Ай бұрын
rudder hard over happened?🤔
@lancomedic
@lancomedic Ай бұрын
No, they would probably drop him a hat and a carton of Twix bars.
@fdk7014
@fdk7014 Ай бұрын
"Kelsey will run out of pretzels in 20 minutes! Get a move on, boys!"
@tetedur377
@tetedur377 Ай бұрын
So basically, Kelsey is a cat who was fed 20 minutes ago. I wonder if he meows for snacks.
@johnzywko5885
@johnzywko5885 Ай бұрын
Thank you Kelsey,you are a pleasure to listen to..
@CodyJWerther
@CodyJWerther Ай бұрын
Thank you for being here and using your voice ❤️
@CR48Dalzell
@CR48Dalzell Ай бұрын
I'm a GA pilot and have watched hundreds of hours (maybe a slight exaggeration) of Kelsey's videos! What's that? Get a life? Yeah, maybe I should but this is genuine, 100 percent honest talk from a guy who doesn't have to do this but does it because he loves flying and wants to cut through the BS that's out there and tell it like it is. I don't regret watching one single minute. Thanks Kelsey!
@marquisdelafayette1929
@marquisdelafayette1929 Ай бұрын
Him and Petter (Mentour Pilot) are my favorite KZfaqrs. I love Kelsey’s honest and dry sense of humor, and I love Petters way of breaking down extremely complex things so someone like me with 0 flying experience can understand while avoiding exaggerating for clicks.
@scottparsons-ko9gd
@scottparsons-ko9gd Ай бұрын
@@marquisdelafayette1929 try also Hoover with his Pilot Debrief channel. I think if you like these guys you will like him. There’s also no BS. Have a good day
@dannydaw59
@dannydaw59 Ай бұрын
What's GA? Is that an abbreviation of an airline?
@nicknibs6554
@nicknibs6554 Ай бұрын
​@@dannydaw59, GA is general aviation I believe.
@kevinfairclough4619
@kevinfairclough4619 Ай бұрын
Correct. Anything not commercial (commercial = paying passengers or contracted cargo). So, basically light aircraft for social or domestic use only. (Edit-to clarify I’m adding to the GA question that Nick correctly answered)
@JamesKintner
@JamesKintner Ай бұрын
I LOVE the subtle left seat flex with the seat moving video. Congrats again Kelsey.
@davegrundgeiger9063
@davegrundgeiger9063 Ай бұрын
Right on! Great comment.
@jeffbeck8993
@jeffbeck8993 Ай бұрын
Not a flex dramadude. It's just where he sits now.
@taxiuniversum
@taxiuniversum Ай бұрын
@@jeffbeck8993One does not necessarily rule out the other. 🤣
@FiveTwoSevenTHR
@FiveTwoSevenTHR Ай бұрын
He has actually sat left seat as a relief pilot on video before back when he was still an FO.
@imaner76
@imaner76 Ай бұрын
Noted. And applauded.
@xXCamera_ShyXx
@xXCamera_ShyXx Ай бұрын
First time I’m hearing of this!! Thank you for keeping us updated
@JuniorBetch
@JuniorBetch Ай бұрын
Oh Shiat I just learned enough to recognize you are “captain” …. Those 4 stripes are amazing ! Love your videos and keep on keeping on !
@StanslaMichael
@StanslaMichael Ай бұрын
People that delete comments show exactly what type of people they are. Someone that is not humble enough to accept that maybe they are wrong.
@nanoflower1
@nanoflower1 Ай бұрын
Agreed. If they didn't agree with Kelsey's comment then either ignore it or explain why you think you are right.
@tonyw4863
@tonyw4863 Ай бұрын
Correct. Just try giving a dissenting opinion on a flat earther YT video and most of them will be deleted once seen by the author
@Akumasama
@Akumasama Ай бұрын
A tiktoker has a strong incentive to delete comments that go against whatever they're saying in their videos, because being right brings views (read, money), and being wrong does not. The system rewards dishonesty.
@LegoPossessed
@LegoPossessed Ай бұрын
This comment needs more likes! This is so true.
@-danR
@-danR Ай бұрын
gluetube randomly deletes ~60% of my comments without rhyme or reason. Because that's what type of people they are. And when AI makes it 80%, that's the sort of thing it is.
@Lokeydin7
@Lokeydin7 Ай бұрын
I don't think anyone can be anymore clear or give any better of an explanation then this pilot is giving! A+ high quality video! Truly awesome!
@vikrantpednekar
@vikrantpednekar Ай бұрын
Sorry to say, but he is not. It's like a drunk pilot at a bar. Listen to at 0.5 x speed. It's exactly how we sound.
@analyticalhabitrails9857
@analyticalhabitrails9857 Ай бұрын
Well if their whistle blowers quit dying, we might go somewhere.
@zackbarkley7593
@zackbarkley7593 Ай бұрын
Maybe. But I really doubt any pilot working for Boeing or not is going to say anything about a Boeing incident...positive or negative...all on their own without Boeing brass and PR involved. It just smells. I would rather hear from a retired pilot and one with body guards. Not sure they exist at this point, so who is this really talking and who is this really for?
@NickHobbs
@NickHobbs Ай бұрын
@@zackbarkley7593just LOL at your conspiracy theory!
@Benji-jj2bg
@Benji-jj2bg Ай бұрын
@@zackbarkley7593 huh... We have dozens of pilot channels and they talk about EVERY Boeing incident... Because Boeing is the biggest name in aviation so obviously they always talk about boeing... Your bieng way to much of a conspiracy theorist dude.. not even making sense anymore.
@Justyouraverageguy360
@Justyouraverageguy360 Ай бұрын
Love your videos Capt Kelsey. Keep up the amazing work
@tbearpa73
@tbearpa73 Ай бұрын
I admire your integrity and willingness to share your experience and insight. *subscribed*
@karlheber23
@karlheber23 Ай бұрын
Most feared ways to die: Other people: Spiders, snakes, drowning, falling, fire, sharks... Kelsey: Lack of snacks
@Midnight.Rain.747.
@Midnight.Rain.747. Ай бұрын
real
@fredfred2363
@fredfred2363 Ай бұрын
Yep.
@dave.infinitepanda
@dave.infinitepanda Ай бұрын
This part had me cracking up🤣
@tomr3422
@tomr3422 Ай бұрын
Naw Im still going with rectal trauma
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron Ай бұрын
"Snacks! It had to be Snacks."
@djohnsto2
@djohnsto2 Ай бұрын
You can really tell a lot about a person when they are in a position of taking responsibility for their actions, and observing how they handle it.
@radleysmith7528
@radleysmith7528 Ай бұрын
True, FJB
@sharoncassell5273
@sharoncassell5273 26 күн бұрын
Some of us appreciate your input. Thanks.
@kaliyuga6613
@kaliyuga6613 Ай бұрын
Thanks for posting the video!
@xwednesday
@xwednesday 5 күн бұрын
Kelsey, I enjoy watching your videos… Thank you!!!
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter Ай бұрын
I appreciate your way of handling mistakes so much. People pretending to be perfect is a huge problem, and it's part of why people don't trust each other anymore. You're doing it right, and it's extremely refreshing and endearing.
@damienlie4117
@damienlie4117 Ай бұрын
Agreed; so tastefully done; your comment, and Kelsey's observations.😃
@thatrandomguyontheinternet2477
@thatrandomguyontheinternet2477 Ай бұрын
You shouldn't be perfect, but if you are making flying machines, safety needs to be above 99%
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter Ай бұрын
@@thatrandomguyontheinternet2477 no human operates over 70% mistake free. That's why aviation uses systems to catch pilot errors. Catching errors and correcting them works better than blaming humans for making the mistakes humans make. Watch more of Kelsey's videos and you'll see more and more than the system that expects mistakes is infinitely safer than one that discourages mistakes.
@devdevelo
@devdevelo Ай бұрын
Well let's see what happens next, because Kelsey has made a huge mistake here by assuming the comments were deleted by the content creators when in fact, comments disappear from TikTok all the time for no apparent reason. If he'd bothered to question his faulty assumptions he would have found plenty of discussion about TikTok comments getting removed to the annoyance of content creators and commentators alike, and the problems, like this situation, that result. Kelsey messed up here.
@dylanford1018
@dylanford1018 Ай бұрын
Agreed !!!
@carlmarburger7513
@carlmarburger7513 Ай бұрын
I am a GA pilot. It's amazing the BS on YT regarding flying. Keep keeping it real.
@Fastvoice
@Fastvoice Ай бұрын
In this case it was TikTok I guess.
@Finder245
@Finder245 Ай бұрын
Except the information regarding the seat is correct and Kelsey is just talking without bothering to do any research first.
@StallionStudios1234
@StallionStudios1234 Ай бұрын
What does GA mean?
@Finder245
@Finder245 Ай бұрын
@@StallionStudios1234 general aviation.
@gregausit
@gregausit Ай бұрын
@@Fastvoice yeah and ? where do you get your facts ??? 😀
@SP-ky6lx
@SP-ky6lx Ай бұрын
Kelsey keeping it real once again - love it!
@tomriley5790
@tomriley5790 Ай бұрын
Appreciate your honesty Kelsey, acknowledging and learning from mistakes is I'm sure one of the many reasons you're a good pilot.
@gailpeterson3747
@gailpeterson3747 Ай бұрын
Kelsey, this post broke the KZfaq algorithm....Very well played!!
@kenp3L
@kenp3L Ай бұрын
Dying of sunburn and lack of snacks is the worst.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Ай бұрын
my guess is rudder hard over because if they have screens going blank they had problems and rudder hard over can send the plane into a death dive
@cmbiggie
@cmbiggie Ай бұрын
The rudder bone is connected to the elevator bone. 🦴🦾 😆 @@raven4k998
@danielhall-wl4ql
@danielhall-wl4ql Ай бұрын
The ex wife was a Redhead and few times I thought sunburn was going to kill her, not sure what the deal is with redheads and sun but they dont mix very well at all, don't mix with me very well at all either but dang just cant help it, and ladies the last redhead vacated her position (left me) so its open at the moment , at least I didn't lie and say I left her , I'm honest for the most part anyway unless your a cop , most of my lies where all the same one , Not Guity ! is what it is .
@kimdrost8551
@kimdrost8551 Ай бұрын
Rudder? My understanding is the rudder controls yaw, not pitch. The elevator controls pitch. Ailerons control roll. So, to pitch forward, something happened to the elevator. But I’d have to ask Kelsey to be sure. 😊
@timewa851
@timewa851 Ай бұрын
@@kimdrost8551 'Stick & Rudder' Classic!
@tonypetrovik
@tonypetrovik 2 күн бұрын
Hey Kelsy, always love your videos and love how you're keeping it real. I know you won't see this, but it's so important. Social media ideas of always displaying perfection and flawlessness need to change otherwise it'll make everyone at some stage feel inadequate and helpless. Thanks always for the amazing videos! Been watching a lot of PilotMentour but not gonna lie, they're informative but also exhausting for all the technical knowledge. You match the technical, the information, and understanding in a great way that isn't so intense and exhausting. You should know how we all think you're amazing!
@abccba1971
@abccba1971 Ай бұрын
I use this seat once every other day and I do confirm what you're saying !!
@THX1138JJT
@THX1138JJT Ай бұрын
It's AWESOME having an experienced and actually enthusiastic pilot like Capt. Kelsey going through this stuff. Not just one who talks about these things, but takes the time to SHOW us what he means. Plus, he isn't an egomaniac about it, is willing to _actually_ consider alternative explanations, and doesn't participate in sniping people he doesn't agree with. You, Cpt Kelsey, are a Noble Gentleman - Hats off to you, sir.
@trpjake
@trpjake Ай бұрын
Hey Kelsey hope you’re doing well! I am currently 13 and am enrolled in a junior flight program at my local flight school. I have 13 hours in the 172 now and I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your channel. You have really motivated me to work hard for this and you were a cause for my interest in aviation. I just wanted to say thanks!
@dannydaw59
@dannydaw59 Ай бұрын
How much does all that cost?
@dittohead7044
@dittohead7044 Ай бұрын
Congratulations
@BeeWhistler
@BeeWhistler Ай бұрын
This is great, but I gotta advise you not to share your age on the internet. Not saying you aren't smart enough to avoid most creeps, but some are more aggressive and it's best not to give them a target.
@sc1338
@sc1338 Ай бұрын
@@BeeWhistlerchill it’s KZfaq... you can dm anymore for a decade now 😂
@aeronical1656
@aeronical1656 Ай бұрын
@@dannydaw59 In the Houston area flight training is about $200/hr with an instructor for a Piper or Cessna.
@macbitz
@macbitz 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for being a voice of reason amongst the cesspit of social media.
@dianthis
@dianthis Ай бұрын
Thank you for keeping it real
@Vtarngpb
@Vtarngpb Ай бұрын
to quote one of my former instructors: "We don't make mistakes, we create learning opportunities"
@bakerbill4274
@bakerbill4274 Ай бұрын
And hope everyone survives your "learning opportunity"
@DetectiveRackham
@DetectiveRackham Ай бұрын
Shame that money often gets in the way of actually implementing what have been learned…
@Soundbrigade
@Soundbrigade Ай бұрын
That was a very good quote. Many incidents and accidents are due to wrong decisions or no decisions at all if I get Petter, the Mentour Pilot correct and from each such incident/accident something new is learned.
@jak9955
@jak9955 Ай бұрын
So many other professions can say the same but none are so sadly final and devastating.
@jasono2139
@jasono2139 Ай бұрын
Is that the point of Boeing's DEI?? Create LOTS of "learning opportunities"?? ...hard pass. I'll just remain alive and ignorant! 🤷
@AlizarinCrimsonClovis
@AlizarinCrimsonClovis Ай бұрын
If that guy had any sense, he would be honored that someone with the experience and credibility of Kelsey took the time to have a dialogue with him on his channel.
@Sarcasticron
@Sarcasticron Ай бұрын
And if he'd watched any of Kelsey's videos, he would have known better than to question his airplane-related food expertise. Sheesh!
@jesusmelendez9563
@jesusmelendez9563 Ай бұрын
Really makes sense. Thanks for sharing
@cobramom3
@cobramom3 Ай бұрын
I’m really glad that you said this, my my very good friend flies Boeings and he is frustrated with that guy to no end
@Zappy1210
@Zappy1210 Ай бұрын
This isn't limited to just aviation. It's just the world we live in now. People want to be the first to give the "facts" when in most cases the facts just aren't all put together yet. We live in a world of 95% commentary for views. Respect this channel for not being complete commentary like most.
@Skank_and_Gutterboy
@Skank_and_Gutterboy Ай бұрын
That's why you also see these news stories that are completely worthless, provide zero information, and are just filler because they want to be first to report some event. They provide the one liner that was released by the airline or whatever, then instead of cutting it short, they ramble total garbage for a minute or two.
@billklatsch5058
@billklatsch5058 Ай бұрын
Its sadly not just "people" its huge parts of the professional media landscape too. Being first is more lucrative than being right.
@Skank_and_Gutterboy
@Skank_and_Gutterboy Ай бұрын
@@billklatsch5058 I was going to post the same thing but you called it. That's why you get these news stories that echo the one-liner airline/military press-release, then the other 2 minutes is completely worthless. I've literally seen news stories announcing the crash of a fighter jet and it starts out, "Big news about a local military jet this afternoon but first let's talk about the history of this jet and its use in Iraq..."
@MrAntraxico
@MrAntraxico Ай бұрын
At the very least the guy is giving an opinion and not dressing it as a fact. Still the moment their opinion could be wrong they delete it...
@D64nz
@D64nz Ай бұрын
@@Skank_and_Gutterboy I have huge respect for every channel that starts off very clearly saying what they do know as fact, and what they don't know and are purely guessing. So many so called news shows bury the fact that they have no idea what's going on but still try to present it as definitive truth. Basically it's just propaganda at that point.
@oddbod4442
@oddbod4442 Ай бұрын
Blancolirio channel showed a video that the button can be operated when it’s covered by the protective cover and it then sticks on which will push the pilot hard into the controls. Boeing sent out an advisory to airlines to check the condition of the switches after the accident
@Nebbia_affaraccimiei
@Nebbia_affaraccimiei Ай бұрын
correct. im really suprised Kelsey was NOT aware of that.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Ай бұрын
I remember seeing that, and the confirmation that it was Blancolirio who said it, adds credibility - yeah, it wasn't bumping into the yoke, and it wasn't a matter of just letting go of the switch.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Ай бұрын
@@Nebbia_affaraccimiei Kelsey doesn't really do in depth crash analysis, and I don't believe the 747 has that "feature" so between the really skimpy details on the tik tok video, and the fact that it's not his specialty, I don't have an expectation of Kelsey knowing the whole story.
@___Brandon___
@___Brandon___ Ай бұрын
Exactly….Blancolirio and the Tik Tok guy reported on the exact same thing on the exact same day (March 15 2024).
@kapitandiabeetus
@kapitandiabeetus Ай бұрын
@@kenbrown2808 then maybe before making a whole video dunking on the guy (and saying it spreads misinformation while it clearly does not) he should research if 787 seats work the same way as 747 'cause apparently they don't
@andrewjeffries1576
@andrewjeffries1576 Ай бұрын
I love your videos! Keep it up man!
@Angiehere-1
@Angiehere-1 Ай бұрын
Thank you Sir!
@trevfenn
@trevfenn Ай бұрын
Social media is one of the worst inventions ever.
@donaldsalkovick396
@donaldsalkovick396 Ай бұрын
Amen brother amen. People get to say anything they want with no fear of repercussions or accountability..... spreading misinformation globally within seconds. What could possibly go wrong?
@TopperPenquin
@TopperPenquin Ай бұрын
GFY
@Foxhound94
@Foxhound94 Ай бұрын
​@@donaldsalkovick396 So you're against freedom of speech?..
@user-yd9od2xu9q
@user-yd9od2xu9q Ай бұрын
@@donaldsalkovick396 Yeah, we’re all much, much safer letting the State hold their monopoly on misinformation.. Grow up.
@the_expidition427
@the_expidition427 Ай бұрын
@@Foxhound94 It is curated and edited and censor this is not freedom it is a media that is social
@Bobrogers99
@Bobrogers99 Ай бұрын
One of the lessons to be learned is that on social media, misinformation is given the same opportunity to influence viewers as correct information. Unqualified people are given the same authority to speak as qualified people. Truth and lies are given the same weight.
@HomesickforAlaska
@HomesickforAlaska Ай бұрын
The problems start when people abandon critical thinking, common sense, and personal research. And in cases such as Sunni Hostin thinking climate change caused, the eclipse, earthquakes, and cicada's, I don't know what other word to use than ignorance. And people watch that show and the ignorance spreads.
@Ylyrra
@Ylyrra Ай бұрын
Nothing new. TikTok is just the modern equivalent of tabloid newspapers, except you might occasionally stumble onto something truthful on TikTok just by accident. There's ALWAYS been a market for sensationalism and popularity-over-facts and headline/click-baiting people. If anything there's probably a greater proportion of the population getting their facts from reputable sources than historically "read the quality broadsheets".
@allnighter2011
@allnighter2011 Ай бұрын
People can do research and learn. Right now you watched Kelsey's take and assume the other guy's take is misinformation. Of course we don't know what happened on this flight, but Kelseys take that moving the seat and pushing the yoke is "nonsense" is actually the misinformation. It is a legitimate theory the investigators will look at because it has a precedent (check out the story of the Voyager Flight 333). The pilot in that flight was moving his seat forward, which pushed an item against the yoke, and they went into a nosedive. So this dismissive take by Kelsey is wrong.
@bigmike8808
@bigmike8808 Ай бұрын
@@allnighter2011he didn’t say it was impossible, only that it was highly unlikely. It happened one other time in history so you saying that it’s more likely than any other reason is wrong. With Boeing’s recent merger, history of malfunctions and then dead whistleblowers lately are what really need to be addressed instead of senseless arguing without offering solutions.
@GroupBGarage
@GroupBGarage Ай бұрын
Great video ... The demonstration of you bumping the Yoke in cruise made the worth watching on its own!!! :-) Love it !
@therealjetlag
@therealjetlag Ай бұрын
I love the idea that a trained commercial airline pilot doesn’t have the quick thinking and reflexes to lift his tray up as the seat moved back into place.
@Timesobserver_Xenia
@Timesobserver_Xenia Ай бұрын
It can be even not him who had the issue. If the other person served the meal a d pushed the button by an accident, while leaning towards the seat, it could cause the fall of the serving person on the pilot or forward. We don't know what happened in cabins of Singapore airlines, Quatar and some others. Nobody shares the data. Now it's comfortable to put all on climate change and sudden air issue, or how they call it now there...
@eljefe3060
@eljefe3060 Ай бұрын
I never knew I was interested in aviation until I found this channel!
@4viationCentral
@4viationCentral Ай бұрын
Me too! And now I have a discovery flight this week!
@suegardner
@suegardner Ай бұрын
Me too, and now I drive people mad looking at the sky and pointing out 747s
@squirming_squirrels
@squirming_squirrels Ай бұрын
flight mentor is another good channel.
@739-Jen
@739-Jen Ай бұрын
Right?? 😂
@tinareaume7484
@tinareaume7484 Ай бұрын
Me too!
@user-qb8pm3eq6o
@user-qb8pm3eq6o Ай бұрын
Excellent video with a perfectly reasonable explanation. The other chap was seemingly upset he got it wrong and deleted the comment. It’s a bit sad rather than acknowledging your clear explanation.
@peterhoulihan9766
@peterhoulihan9766 Ай бұрын
Interesting. Just to point out, the gauges going blank doesn't imply the pilot nosed down because of the gauges. It could have been the gauges going blank because of a computer error which also caused the nose down.
@6ftS
@6ftS Ай бұрын
"dying of sunburn and lack of snacks..." hahahahhaha this literally made me spit my coffee out lol
@AncoraImparoPiper
@AncoraImparoPiper Ай бұрын
That fear is real 🤪
@TheJayMoses
@TheJayMoses Ай бұрын
I love how genuine you are. It’s amazing how true self confidence grows from being conscientious of others. Thank you for all you do.
@jrprieto1
@jrprieto1 Ай бұрын
Hey Kels, I always always enjoy your info, it's made my flying experience my more fun with the info you give out. Keep the blue side up.
@DdDd-ss3ms
@DdDd-ss3ms 25 күн бұрын
As former sport and aerobatic pilot and thanx to your channel I realize modern passenger planes have complicated systems which are made less complicated by its computer systems which makes problem solving in rare cases more complicated LOL. Lot of BS on social media... Hard to not react on them but seldom worth the effort 🤔
@davidbales8053
@davidbales8053 Ай бұрын
Dying from lack of snacks. Love how you are always able to reframe others incompetence or ignorance with a lovely sense of self deprecating humor.
@maurizioalbera
@maurizioalbera Ай бұрын
Dammit dude, you stole my line! xD
@markkussusa
@markkussusa Ай бұрын
It's not self depricating. It's really the truth. I work in medical, and running around patients all day without a break, availability of free snacks (and free roaming pens) is simply matter of life and death!
@mooretrumpet
@mooretrumpet Ай бұрын
You’re a great example of honesty and transparency
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator Ай бұрын
Well, transparency? Was he there? Did he experience it?
@ericingram7047
@ericingram7047 Ай бұрын
@@the_kombinatordid he need to be there to offer his opinion here??????? Lol
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator Ай бұрын
@@ericingram7047 I think you need more question marks.
@KCadbyRacing
@KCadbyRacing Ай бұрын
@@the_kombinator Since I've watched a lot of Kelsey's videos I think @mooretrumpet comment was generalizing that Kelsey and his videos are always honest and transparent...
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator Ай бұрын
@@KCadbyRacing It's always a good time when a post has to be interpreted and the meaning guessed - I mean unless OP's ESL, then FFS gather your thoughts correctly :P
@user-jf5ir2er3e
@user-jf5ir2er3e Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@everest9707
@everest9707 Ай бұрын
Great videos, thanks 👍
@EverGreen4810
@EverGreen4810 Ай бұрын
Good video again Kelsey. I have a good friend who became a captain at a major airline. In the early 90s, as a FO at the controls of a 747-300 cruising at night, he was given clearance to climb to a higher FL. Half way through the climb he got the TCAS alert to Descend, Descend. He immediately pushed the nose over BUT was very conscious of not sticking many of the sleeping passengers on the ceiling. He maintained some slight positive Gs. He watched the opposing AC on the TCAS screen and saw the closure... 10000m, 5000m, 2000m, 1000m and then saw the shadow pass directly above with his estimate of just hundreds of feet clearance. He maintained composure until after landing several hours later when he phoned his wife and told her he had just saved 750 people. Trust the TCAS - not the controller!
@russbell6418
@russbell6418 Ай бұрын
Shadow? Night?
@JohnShalamskas
@JohnShalamskas Ай бұрын
@@russbell6418 Shh! He's on a roll!
@nickyates6106
@nickyates6106 Ай бұрын
@@russbell6418 You're able to see another aircraft pass over the top of yours at night, as it blocks out any visible stars or clouds reflecting streetlights etc, especially at a few hundred feet.
@mijo3642
@mijo3642 Ай бұрын
well according to you he didn't trust the TCAS, he was LUCKY not to have the collision. YOU FOLLOW the TCAS instruction regardless. You don't do your own version of it. Jeez..
@randywl8925
@randywl8925 Ай бұрын
Sounds like maintaining the altitude or going higher might have been safer in that instance. I wonder if flight control messed up.
@brandon7219
@brandon7219 Ай бұрын
Its a good sunday when we get a new 74 Gear!
@stephannielee2182
@stephannielee2182 Ай бұрын
Here’s your comment: Kelsey, I think it is awesome that you not only notice when other pilots put wrong information on social media but that you care about him and all their passengers to tell the pilots so they know. I hope I am NEVER on a pilot’s plane who can’t admit he was wrong and who doesn’t learn from his mistakes. It is extremely hard to learn from your mistakes if you won’t even admit your’re wrong. I hope I am never on a plane with a pilot like that. I would be happy to fly with a pilot who is he humble enough to admit he was wrong and smart enough to learn from it. Pilots are human just like the rest of us. There’s only one who walked this earth who didn’t make any mistakes! I am so very sorry the arrogant “pilot” deleted your comment and who is now causing people to believe the wrong thing …. I wonder what other “wrongs” he has caused people to believe because of his lack of humility? So thankful Kelsey is on social media so he can set the record straight. You ( the wrong pilot) were so very wrong in blaming a flight attendant. You deleted Kelsey’s comment but that didn’t make you right and you blamed a flight attendant which made your second wrong. Shame on you. Maybe you should stick to talking about your on plane. After your record though I wouldn’t believe any thing you say. Kelsey, since I am on the issue of wrongness - I am very sorry if I spelled your name wrong. If I ever feel the need to comment again, which would probably be a very long time from now, or not, I will somehow learn how to spell your name ahead of time 🙂
@DrKeyz777
@DrKeyz777 Ай бұрын
I really enjoy your page, even though I dont fly nor will I probably ever, haha. I find you to be a straight up, appear to be a level headed, down to earth, honest person. Your page is entertaining to watch. Social media is all about the "look at me" generation and mostly filled with unbelievable information that people share just for clicks. Its really sad because people have gotten hurt because of it. Keep up the videos and thank you for having us apart of your life.
@allenmeyer5085
@allenmeyer5085 Ай бұрын
Kelsey, I have enjoyed all of your videos for the past couple years and always wonder "what is it about this guy's videos that I like so much?" Well, you answered that question on this video. It is your humility. You are confident but you are also humble and that is very much appreciated (and rare these days). Keep making great content!
@jameshales6958
@jameshales6958 Ай бұрын
Hello Kelsey, I’ve been in aircraft Maintenance & Engineering just shy of 52 years and am now retired. I’ve lost count on how many hours experience I have on Boeing, McDonnell Douglas and Airbus aircraft, most of which were on 747, MD-11 and DC-10. Being honest, I have very little experience on the 787 model. However, I remembered reading this after the incident in question, “In a bulletin to airlines, Boeing said that if part of the switch is loose, a cover over the top can cause it to jam, "resulting in unintended seat movement.” The bulletin does not refer to the dive incident, which authorities are in the early stages of investigating.” The way I’m reading this is the switch could stick in the seat forward position and drive the seat to the full forward position. I don’t know if the pilot sitting in this seat was a large person or maybe had a food tray or computer in his lap, but I can imagine how the control column could be pushed forward. Supposedly, this is not the first time this has occurred, thus the reason for the bulletin. I’m also assuming that if the pilot quickly placed his thumb on his switch to try and reverse the seat direction, nothing happens, but again, I honestly don’t know. This would be easy to check physically or if I had a schematic. My thoughts only and thank you for your videos.
@James_Bee
@James_Bee Ай бұрын
So, it's entirely possible the other guy was right.
@jeffreymartin2010
@jeffreymartin2010 Ай бұрын
That bulletin was my first thought. If you are pushing the button yourself you would notice what was happening, but, I'm guessing here, that if the switch cover was pushing the button, then maybe you wouldn't notice until the plane dived. Maybe.
@kenso77
@kenso77 Ай бұрын
​@@James_Bee even if it was jammed, the seat would be moving at a snail's pace, giving ample time for the pilot to mitigate
@montgomerymcferryn1542
@montgomerymcferryn1542 Ай бұрын
I can second the strange timing of this "totally unrelated" information about the seats from Boeing.
@aestheticstorm
@aestheticstorm Ай бұрын
@@kenso77 If the button is stuck it'll be pushing you forward despite your best efforts to stop it.
@Ryann1432
@Ryann1432 8 күн бұрын
You sir are beautifully blunt, I wish more people appreciated that and were less sensitive about facts. Keep the blue sky up ✈️
@EGE3101
@EGE3101 Ай бұрын
Thanks, Kelsey.
@meenki347
@meenki347 Ай бұрын
People have easily hurt and tiny childlike egos. Many people's ego's are crushed if they're wrong about anything, no matter how insignificant. Thanks for all the cabin shots 74. Cool
@wilycat5290
@wilycat5290 Ай бұрын
That is so Kelsey: ...."dying of sunburn and lack of snacks." 😂😂😂
@lionelwalton6784
@lionelwalton6784 Ай бұрын
ON THE DESERT FLOOR.. Don't forget That part.....😂😂😂😂😂😂
@livealoha50f
@livealoha50f Ай бұрын
Just love this channel! Nothing not like!
@barb5606
@barb5606 Ай бұрын
Thank you for info.
@wmxx2000
@wmxx2000 Ай бұрын
This reminds me of Voyager Flight 333, Metour did a video where a pilot had their camera in the cockpit, moved their seat up and the chair pushed the camera into the side stick and the plane dived around 4000 feet. So, the seat moving up may sound improbable, but not impossible
@henktl3580
@henktl3580 Ай бұрын
Came to say exactly this. There is an inkling of truth to it, but it wasn't related to the flight, not related to Boeing etc.
@artsmithy7638
@artsmithy7638 Ай бұрын
As a frequent flyer with well over a million miles traveled, I always appreciate your insights! Thank you and save travels!
@Laurel-yo5gz
@Laurel-yo5gz 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for setting things straight. With all that is going on with the Boeing aircrafts recently and me being a frequent flyer for work I don't need any false information. Thank you again
@NEKRWSPHERE
@NEKRWSPHERE Ай бұрын
17:36 I find it weird that your co-pilot would keep food in the bathroom, but sure, everyone has a weird ritualistic behavior of one's own I suppose.
@hiclite
@hiclite Ай бұрын
Can you pilot every time I need to take a flight somewhere? You are calm, reasonable and well put together. All the ingredients of a fantastic pilot.
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator Ай бұрын
... as opposed to the lunatics and mouthbreather pilots?
@ericingram7047
@ericingram7047 Ай бұрын
@@the_kombinatoryes lol
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator Ай бұрын
@@ericingram7047 Well... keep flying Air Pakistan and Air Ethiopia.
@jasminelee1234
@jasminelee1234 Ай бұрын
“On the fluffier side of life” 😂😂 I love Kelsey’s dry humour.
@thomashelm6931
@thomashelm6931 Ай бұрын
Well, he was, most likely, thinking of popcorn. That's rather fluffy. Unless he put on a significant amount of butter. I can see that, too.
@loopinglou1
@loopinglou1 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your information on this matter. No one but a pilot is qualified to explain the functions of an aircraft. I trust your input on this matter
@MachTuckChuck
@MachTuckChuck Ай бұрын
From a pilot living in the desert: A fear of dying of sunburn and lack of snacks is a legitimate concern. 😂
@cameronbradley3679
@cameronbradley3679 Ай бұрын
To be fair, this incident kinda reminds me of Voyager Flight 333. One of the pilots had left the cockpit. The other pilot was taking photos and when the Purser came in, the pilot put the camera between the arm rest of his chair and the control stick (it was an A330). When he brought his chair forward, he forgot about the camera and it pushed the camera into the stick, sending the aircraft into a dive. As his aircraft pitched down violently, the pilot still didn't notice the camera. The camera popped out partway through the incident, but even afterwards, he had no idea that his camera was to blame.
@iclicklike3397
@iclicklike3397 Ай бұрын
Just a note for those who may not know/realize. A330 has a control stick like a joystick, B787 has yoke. So that wouldn't work. I wonder if the chair would generate enough force to push the yoke into a nose dive if for some reason a pilots bag was left between the chair and the yoke and the chair is moved forward.
@BkNy02
@BkNy02 Ай бұрын
There was no way the camera popped out, it was jammed. The pilot realized it was the camera and pulled it out with some force. The pilot after the incident lied saying he had no idea what happened. It was during the investigation when the camera was brought up. They even tested the force necessary to remove the camera. Which was inconsistent with the pilot's story. Thankfully that guy was fired for lying.
@cameronbradley3679
@cameronbradley3679 Ай бұрын
@@BkNy02 Yeah, now that I think about it, I was a bit naive in my original assessment. Thanks for setting the record straight!
@sthubbar
@sthubbar Ай бұрын
Exactly. Does he not know about that?
@MendTheWorld
@MendTheWorld Ай бұрын
Yeah, but that was on an Airbus, and that's no yoke. 😑
@nedflanders3769
@nedflanders3769 Ай бұрын
Love ya Kelsey because you’re honest, you keep it real, no bs. And you’ve got a great sense of humor. 😅
@TeacherFarmerCA
@TeacherFarmerCA Ай бұрын
Thank you. Accurate, honest information and common sense.
@NorwayT
@NorwayT Ай бұрын
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ YOU ARE THE BEST, KELSEY! 👍 What makes your Channel THE BEST AVIATION CHANNEL on KZfaq, is that you're humble. You teach your audience about MISTAKES that you have made, which is a great source of learning and it's inspiring! And you do it with HUMOR! 😂 👍 And I believe that your way of explaining the World of Aviation to people who perhaps are nervous flyers is brilliant! No drama or wild speculations, just cool, calm, rational explanations. BRILLIANT! THANK YOU! 👍
@RickOSidhe
@RickOSidhe Ай бұрын
Blancolirio (a 777 FO) did a detailed breakdown of this. His commentary for this incident is based on a Boeing multi-operator report regarding loose switch covers on the 787. Anyway, Juan details how an apparently malfunctioning switch cover and loose switch on the back of the seat could have been involved as has been reported. The FA reportedly leaned against the back of the seat with their hand or forearm resting on the switch cover. This apparently caused accidental activation of the switch, moving the seat forward. Due to the limited clearance between the tray and the yoke, the seat drove the tray into the yoke with enough force to disco the AP and provide pitch down control input. The flight crew couldn't recover from the upset until the Captain was able to move the seat back and remove the tray. Note that Juan also shows a video demonstrating this accidental activation in a 787 on the ground. The cover and switch are the culprits here as, once the cover itself is depressed, the seat motors activate forward movement and - most importantly - CONTINUE to move the seat forward after the body part that made the initial contact is no longer making contact with the cover! All of this is unofficial, of course, until the final report from the investigation board of the nation having jurisdiction over the flight.
@kapitandiabeetus
@kapitandiabeetus Ай бұрын
I believe preliminary report states the same if you can believe wikipedia, as I don't speak Spanish to double check the report (it does have pictures of the seat and the button tho).
@Pochi1
@Pochi1 Ай бұрын
Could have been avoided if they didn't delete the comment
@wolfskind_official
@wolfskind_official Ай бұрын
love your stand on owning your mistakes and not trying to act like whatever. thanks for your content & greetings from germany
@brianreece785
@brianreece785 Ай бұрын
Thanks Kelsey for being honest and educating us on these types of incidents. I am not a pilot but fly RC prop planes and turbine jets which gives me some understanding of full scale flight.
@michisch2000
@michisch2000 Ай бұрын
MR HUGHES, SIR, YOU ARE SUCH A CLASS ACT! GOD BLESS YOU ON ALL YOUR FLIGHTS!🙌🏽
@stage3cam258
@stage3cam258 Ай бұрын
I am just a random guy that isn't even a pilot. But from what I have heard the reason there is a seat adjustment lever at the back of the seat on the 787 is because it is necessary to move the seat back to get in based on how the seats and center console are located. If a pilot needs to move the seat not just adjust it, then it would make sense they would want to do it moderately quickly. Juan Browne (another experienced pilot) from the Blancoliro KZfaq channel did a video on the incident and showed the style of seat in question. It doesn't move super fast, but it doesn't seem as unrealistic as it sounds on a 747. His videos show the available details of incidents at the time and he is clear when he is stating a opinion vs a fact. That being said, yes deleting comments that aren't scams or offensive isn't a good look.
@EXROBOWIDOW
@EXROBOWIDOW Ай бұрын
I just reviewed a bit of one of blancolirio's videos on the topic (maybe he did two videos?) dated March 15. He said that Boeing issued a notice about that button on the back of the seat. It was operating when people pressed on the cover that's supposed to protect the button from being pushed accidentally. The cover is supposed to be lifted, then the button pressed. So even if Kelsey is wrong in his opinion on this incident, his comment on that TikTok video could have been responded to, not just deleted.
@TooSlowTube
@TooSlowTube Ай бұрын
KZfaq has really badly written automatic moderation software. They delete or hide maybe half of my comments, especially under news articles. I'm sure this happens to most people, but not everyone notices. Personally, I think the chances that his comment was deleted automatically outweigh the chances of the video poster reading it and deleting it.
@doltBmB
@doltBmB Ай бұрын
Yes unfortunately Kelsey seems to think his 747 experience applies to 787, he should be more responsible and consult with a 787 pilot if he wants to give an informed take.
@cycaboose
@cycaboose Ай бұрын
I just watched this video, and yeh it seems the most plausible situation, yes the seat moves forward slow but the key thing is the video shows it moves on its own with nobody pressing the button. I could definitely see a pilot plus a tray being pushed into the yoke with that needed pressure to disconnect autopilot since he's unable to stop the chair moving forward and it's such an odd thing I'm sure he didn't immediately think of using the power cut off switch for the seat.... I really think Kelsey should watch that video as it's different from his aircraft, it seems plausible to me. The pilot lying about the screens going off sounds sketchy tho, trying to cover his ass maybe. Agree he shouldn't have deleted his comment but instead opened discussion as to why he disagrees
@TooSlowTube
@TooSlowTube Ай бұрын
@@cycaboose There's no certainty that he deleted it. My comment about comments being automatically deleted got deleted too.