Here’s another point of view of the switch back turn: instagram.com/p/CEFRZUUptnn/?igshid=nf3bjdng1wbr Sorry, there’s a few mistakes I caught: 8:40 That vehicle is a Ford Expedition, not Ford Explorer. 17:34 I called Laurel Lakes "funnel lake".
@bigleo0014 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if there was a funnel cake reward for reaching the lake. 😁
@bryanclark37394 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring May Erick Sahat’s Bakery will deliver?
@bryanclark37394 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring Let me try this again. Maybe Erick Schat’s Bakery in Bishop will deliver.
@adventuretrails1ato4 жыл бұрын
I was glad to have my emergency brake working this time! Nissan xterra Guy.
@theninja0014 жыл бұрын
I like that you guys are getting all you can out of those cars! Sometimes its fun to push a vehicle to its limits instead of having a rig that makes it easy! Sometimes its helpful to turn your mirrors down to point at the rear tires to watch for placement on rocks!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
theninja001 hey, that sounds Like a good trick! I’ll have to try that with the mirrors!
@chopstx4u2074 жыл бұрын
Great narration, stumbled onto this channel. Pleasantly suppressed and have subscribed.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Gagnier thanks for watching and the support 🙏!
@cricry4 жыл бұрын
Same
@davidmedeiros75724 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thanks.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
DavidT Medeiros you’re very welcome ! 🙏
@softroadingthewest4 жыл бұрын
Great episode, fun trail and beautiful area! Looking forward to part 2!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
softroadingthewest thanks! Will have to work on part2 as soon as I get back from my 1 week Yellowstone road trip! Have you ever been here? Such an amazing place!
@softroadingthewest4 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I was only there as a kid, maybe 11 or 12 years old. Even at that age I remember being awestruck. Enjoy!
@BorderlineExplorer4 жыл бұрын
Finally get to see the footage! Awesome! Been wanting to see the trip since hearing the juicy stories about the SxS guy talking crap.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Haha! We have a guy commenting below talking crap, Mike Hawk. It’s hilarious because I know You and Nori would be absolutely bored on this trail. But according to Mr. Hawk, we have no business on these trails. Maybe he’s the SxS driver!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@sfrealestatedealmaker60014 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, great content man. 🍺😎
@samsonphiri68744 жыл бұрын
Nice video Jon, love those subarus and thank you for sticking with them
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
samson phiri thanks 🙏
@williamkennedy20694 жыл бұрын
That was a great video thanks
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome! Thanks for stopping by to comment 😃
@hoppyhomestead33354 жыл бұрын
A guy died on that switchback trying to do a multipoint turn like you instructed those people to do. The reason those switchbacks have landings is that the proper way to approach them is to drive straight onto the landing, then back down to the next landing, and go forward from there. The reason they are built this way is because they were originally built for mining wagons and large mine trucks which couldn't negotiate tight turns, even with multipoint turns. Thats how people are able to tow full trailers up to laurel lakes, and is really the smart way to approach that particular turn to avoid killing anyone. I'm not trying to be critical - just sharing info that may prevent you from getting people stuck or even hurt. Keep up the videos!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Hoppy Homestead thanks for the info! Sad to hear about the guy that perished on that switch back, with one wrong move, I can see how that could happen.
@rfunk7274 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2020 Honda Passport Elite AWD last week. Love your video's, must be nice living relative close to mountains, I live down in the Tampabay area of Florida (Flatland).
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Spaceentity I’ve never been to Florida. All I know is y’all have GATORS 🐊! That sounds so scary 😱
@rfunk7274 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring yea, and you have bears up there which are probably worse. We have them in our lakes around the neighborhood. Just don't go swimming and you're o.k.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
True! Very very true! Well make your way out here sometime! You have to see Utah atleast once in your life. It’s insanely beautiful.
@fredc.schulze61164 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video. Not a track for my stock OB, but definitely learned some things by watching the video & reading the viewer comments. Thanks!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome Fred!
@ScoobyFermentation4 жыл бұрын
JonDZ - I would love to see a video by you comparing all of the “soft-roading” AWD systems with some stock footage. You have real world experience with mostly apples-to-apples comparison between different manufactures on the same trail and the same day. I would love to hear your thoughts on the Passport vs RAV4 Adventure vs Subaru (Outback v Forester v Ascent) vs Jeep (Compass vs Cherokee) etc. The new Ford Bronco Sport will be a serious contender as well. Maybe the best.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
I have a few videos like that, but another thing that accounts for a vehicle system’s capability is the driver. After this series I plan to do a video about a “difficult 4x4 trail”, and we got two Subaru’s up. One of them being a 2010 Lifted Legacy Sedan with a CVT. I would never believe anyone I’d they told me, but I saw it with my own eyes. This was perfect proof that gobs of skill can safely overcome a trail well beyond a vehicles limits. This video is a bit of a comparison. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLxlpJhi2qfOcWw.html Also, my “Overlanding: how much capability do you need” video lots of footage attacking the same obstacle.
@mikecox36594 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video .. thanks for the tip on Falken tires, old man in a 2017 pilot ext -awd, love these forest roads in west central Arkansas!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Mike!
@fredc.schulze61164 жыл бұрын
Love softroading in the Ouachitas, Mike!
@EdMatulac Жыл бұрын
Great video. I attempted this trail in 2018 with a stock Subaru Forester. I got towards the end of the "hard" section when my transmission light lit up. I took a break at 16:27 and turned around, not knowing how much harder (or easier) the trail was ahead. Will.attempt it again in the future, better armed with what you showed in your video. Thanks!
@huskynoob78814 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! looks like a great spot 👍.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
HuskyNoob Thanks 🙏. Great spot, but TOOOOOO many people! I’d love to go back on a weekday.
@johnredwine3 жыл бұрын
Great job covering this trail. I took my 2017 stock jeep cherokee trailhawk up this trail carrying two kayaks when I first bought my Jeep lol. I was so nervous. Everything went well ...but when I got back home I had noticed a huge chunk of sidewall cut out lol. Immediately had the tire replaced. Awesome experience and enjoyed kayaking/fishing the lake
@JonDZ_Adventuring3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words John! I heard about a week ago that this trail was shut down to really bad conditions. Man, I really wish my Honda had your low gear transfer case and rear locker. I’m jelly!
@johnredwine3 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring lol thanks for the update. Sketchy road but beautiful place.
@jayceandjeremysadventures.44414 жыл бұрын
I’m relocating to Southern California in November, definitely going to check this place out.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Jayce and Jeremy's Adventures. Thanks for watching. Have a good trip!
@DaveFYT4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video and glad to see that you guys made it to the lake. I did the first mile or so of this trail in a stock VW Tiguan with +1" A/T tires (total ground clearance of 7.5"). You are right about watching your transmission temps. 8k+ elevation and a turbo engine running at low RPMs (minimal boost) doesn't generate the ideal torque to crawl/bump the VW over some of the rocks. It's probably doable in a Tiguan but not recommended. I can't imagine this trail would be good for the Subie's CVT.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching David! The 3rd gen Forester with the automatic got through this trail with relative ease. She has a Scangauge ii and I helped her program it to view her trans temp. She only got to 217F, but to be safe, she pulled over before a steep climb. I’m very curious how hot the CVTs got, but they weren’t being monitored. Man... I highly recommend everyone monitors their temps.
@ponderinghiker4 жыл бұрын
Well done video... I have been up here a few times... in my Jeep JK (stock) and my Tacoma TRD 4X4 Off-road (stock)... wouldn’t even try it in my Subaru Outback...It was a challenge in my two 4X4’s... but the trip is worth the effort... stay safe...
@eriklehnsherr4 жыл бұрын
Excellent spotting, Driver Mod makes up for so much. Good job all of you drivers.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Erik Lehnsherr thanks! I’ll be honest, I had a spotter fail at the switchback 🤣. I paid for it with dust in the face during the recovery. I literally inhaled some dust and I was coughing uncontrollably the whole day 😭. Everything else went very smooth. Our planning really paid off! I’ll be working on part 2 of this series and hopefully have it released by this Wednesday.
@JM-gz1ej3 жыл бұрын
This is by far the most detailed trail video. Great job
@andysanchez30303 жыл бұрын
Raw footage of the rough section is much appreciated! Great job!
@JonDZ_Adventuring3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy! You’re very welcome
@EricUdell4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I've done that trail, good on you folks for conquering it with AWDs.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Eric Udell thanks!
@88mtb884 жыл бұрын
Another great video
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@BernonCars4 жыл бұрын
So sick!!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Bern!
@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL4 жыл бұрын
wow really does look like there were a lot of people there... great vid. Some reason i thought the trail was easier but looked moderately challenging!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
After Cold Water Canyon, none of these trails should look challenging to you 🤣. Yes, sooooo many people!
@BFSFISHINGCHANNEL4 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring cold water was a rude awakening haha
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought the 2nd time around would be better.... nope, not really. That’s the limit of difficulty that I’d like my trail.
@gr8tdane243 жыл бұрын
Every time is visit Laurel Lakes it just gets more and more crowded. People leaving their trash by the lakes and camping right next to the water is really disappointing. It made me laugh when I went this past July - saw tons of tricked out Rubicons, Gladiators, and TRD Pros, which are totally unnecessary to make it. I made it easily in a 1955 Willys 4x4 Utility Wagon - no power brakes, no power steering, no synchro in 1st on the trans, and no lockers. Just skill required.
@bruceyyyyy4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what happened with that Ascent? You can see traction control working in reverse when you walk up but then it just doesn't work anymore? I think it still uses the MPT center so I wonder if it some how got overheated in those moments. I'm gonna need to do some research on this! Fun video Jon.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Well, his front passenger tire was digging into the ground and rear driver tire was up in the air. He also installed overload springs to the rear. So do you think they may have reduced up travel enough?
@nickadkins13244 жыл бұрын
It did not overheat. I am not sure if the front left touched the dirt to hold up. By the way I am the driver
@rael6_4wd4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I know it’s hard to truly capture the challenge, or the steepness, of a trail on camera, but that hairpin turn looked tough. Especially in an un-lifted vehicle. My hats off to you. I drive a lifted Jeep, on 35’s, that would make that trail less technical, but it’s refreshing to see a group of crossovers, and AWD vehicles pushing the limits. You guys would be fun to Overland with.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Sean Miller thanks! Yes, your Jeep would make easy work on this trail. IMO, Wranglers are on another level. Actually, the only vehicle that didn’t have extra ground clearance was the Toyota 4Runner TRD pro, but 9.5” here, is plenty. My Passport has 11-1/4” at the front skid plate and 11-1/2” at the rear diff. Feel free to join us sometime, there’s been a lot of dedicated off-roaders joining us lately.
@rael6_4wd4 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring That’s awesome clearance. I’d love to get in on one of your trips. I’m definitely more of an Overlander. I’m not into rock crawling, or hardcore 4Wheeling, but I do enjoy a technical trail. More than anything, I just love getting out into the wilderness. I’m usually alone, but only because I don’t know many “like minded” people that enjoy the sport. I used to Overland with my cousin regularly, but that’s no longer an option, and there are many trails I’m forced to pass up because of the risk of getting stuck by myself without help.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Sean Miller we need to get you on a trip with the guys from borderline explorer and their Jeep. Hopefully you’ll all let me join you 😃.
@rael6_4wd4 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring A Jeep group?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Sean Miller not a Jeep group. Actually, these guys contacted me on KZfaq and Instagram and went on a trip out to Joshua Tree (Old Dale Road), The rest is history. 2 guys that drive vehicles on the more capable side. They attract more Jeep and Toyota people though.
@mattjohnson76604 жыл бұрын
Hey man! LOVE your research and feedback on these trails! I like to do a ton of research before I go out on a trail. I’m in a 2016 4Runner 2WD with a 3” lift on 33” wild peak 3’s I’d love to get your take on the drive in 2WD. Thinking about heading to Laurel Lakes in several weeks. I’m also in SoCal and would love to go out with you guys if at all possible! Thanks again for the content!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Matt Johnson thanks 🙏. I’m the wrong guy to ask, but the guy that was point, can do a better job at answering this for you. I’ll ask if he can respond to you.
@jackpotjoey39404 жыл бұрын
You can make it. I have gone up in a Stock 96 2wd Dodge Dakota, was along time ago though. Also did it in 2wd with my 2012 4Runner TE.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jackpot Joey. By the way Matt Johnson feel free to join the Facebook page. It’s a place for like minds to put trips together.
@mattjohnson76604 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you guys! This is a huge help :) joining the FB Group now!
@truckdriver31264 жыл бұрын
Your 4runner has a button that engages a limited slip that works by activating the brakes to help with wheel spin. Pretty effective for a 2WD.
@tdatu4 жыл бұрын
I recently took my '16 OB with A/T tires up in Hollister ( Hector Heights ), which is a blue trail. I made it unscathed and the trail is surprisingly steep and technical. It was definitely pushing the OB to its limit as I saw my engine oil temp reached 246 degrees. Although I made it along with other 4x4 friends, I was uncomfortable to say the least. I dunno, I have a mix feelings whether or not keep my OB or get a capable 4x4 with the correct transmission. Pre-covid my driving would be 90% on paved and 10% to the parks, so it's still hard to justify.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Datu I know exactly how you feel, except at one point, I have owned a FJ cruiser. Before I was offroading, I’d just drive it from Los Angeles 100 miles to Big Bear and 330 miles to Mammoth for snow boarding. I used the 4 high solely for adverse snowy weather. As a highway vehicle, it sucked balls. 14 mpg because it was the TRD “trim” with the giant built in 1.5” tubed roof basket/rack. I bought a Subaru WRX and life was good... well until I discovered camping/overlanding. Then I got into a 2015 FXT for more cargo space and ground clearance. Some may not understand why I won’t go back to body on frame vehicles like the FJ, but like you said, you spend 90% onroad. It actually might be more like 97% to be honest. You know I get our a lot, but my offroad miles account for only a small percentage. So, that’s why I bought the passport. I wanted more capability but I still wanted a good daily driver. Actually, the #1 thing was a car that would be more “reliable” and that’s why I looked at a 2019 Tacoma first. It’s just too small of a vehicle, I really wish they would have made the cabin taller, I’d love to be in one. The 2nd gen Tacoma I can do. I’m not sure why they decided to shrink the Cabin and worsen the ergonomics for the 3rd gen. The Honda dealership was next door and I had already researched how capable the drivetrain was. What sold me was how awesome it performed onroad. It’s so quick (pre 32.1 inch tires), the luxury and comfort was awesome. The big question is how long will the 2nd gen ZF9 last. Will it make it to 400k miles? Man, there’s not many choices out there for a onroad happy dedicated off-roader. I think the JL wranglers are great. The ride is impressive for a solid front and rear axle vehicle. The bronco might turn out good, it’s just too early. But if you’re looking for a used dedicated off-roader pre 2018, everything is just so floaty and out of their element on pavement. If a Tacoma works for you, I’d go with that! Not quite as bad the more aged body on frame Toyota’s.
@olliechristopher4673 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh when that guy told you how much rougher it's going to get!! Comments to me when I took my Super Tenere to Toroweap overlook last year was "it's a breeze" I found out otherwise!!
@dimitristsagdis73404 жыл бұрын
I like 27:50 car at the edge of the cliff - coordinator : a bit more... :-)) I appreciate it is the camera angle that makes it look more scary than it appears form the side angle where we can see exactly where the cliff begins but still I wouldn't feel comfortable at the driver seat (I suspect this is why some 4x4s have removable doors). At any rate, I wouldn't do this drive with an SUV/4x4. Maybe as a day trip with an ATV for a fews hrs fun by the lake and then back out again before sunset. Tnx for sharing, it is remarkable where these SUVs get to (cost of service/repairs must be getting a hit though cause all components are seriously stressed). Stay safe and healthy !!!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
I can honestly tell you, the cliff looks just as scary in person 😱. I saw a lot of SxS driving up and down to the lake. I think they rent them out around that area. As far as my vehicle components, I have 43k miles and haven’t had to replace anything yet besides my tires (they had 35k miles of life). However, I don’t know how long things will last, I’m hoping my axles and shocks will last until 80k, but I’m barely over half way there. I will let you all know when something goes out.
@michaelrasmussen4263 жыл бұрын
Did signal peak the (harder) way in my stock ram on 33 inch all terrain tires by myself...took a couple hits to the body but I made it all the way. Stacking rocks like a champion 🏆
@stephendee78394 жыл бұрын
I've driven my fwd ford focus over roads that looked gnarled than that. Thing.not sure about the climb, like u said, but the trail looks easy enough.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Dee yeah, to an experienced driver, this trail shouldn’t look too bad. There’s one comment tread of a guy telling us we didn’t belong. Haha, I guess he’s simply not experienced enough.
@stephendee78394 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I heard that in the video and anticipated something Rubiconlike. And then what's actually there was that slightly rutted trail with a few rocks to dodge around. Looked like cake for your crew.
@therootedprogress4 жыл бұрын
Dope video Jon! Awesome scenery! Crazy how crowded it's getting out there. Prolly a good thing the outback is still quarantined 😊. Really wish I was out there with you guys . It looked challenging and fun but not too bad besides how tight those turns were and how steep it was. Any plans for a trans or motor oil cooler?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marc! You would have loved this trip, because we hiked 10 miles round trip with 1800 ft of elevation gain, to Duck Lake. I know you like to get your hiking in on your trips! The highest my transmission got here was 218F, so im in no rush to get a transcooler.
@efefrfrs4 жыл бұрын
Best content on yt!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
High.soula ha! I’m bottom of the totem pole, but thank you for the kind words.
@stout_tossme75414 жыл бұрын
Great video. I believe the Outback has a CVT. They heat up rather quickly (I own a vehicle with a CVT). Good call for her to let it cool down before the big climbs. I have seen all sorts of rigs on all sorts of trails. Your rig and its build doesn't make up for experience and smart thinking. Great job to all those involved.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Dallas Ray thanks! I see it all the time. A capable rig doesn’t make up trail experience and skill, and that’s something that you just can’t see at first glance. The Subaru Forester that pulled over has a 4 speed automatic transmission. We were the only two with scangauge2s so who knows how hot the other transmissions got. I highly recommend everyone monitors their temps. My previous vehicle was a Subaru Forester XT with a CVT and it died at 60K miles. After the no charge replacement I got into the Passport. Even though the transmission in the new ride isn’t prone to overheating, it still peaked at 218F on this trail.
@SP01Danny4 жыл бұрын
Hey there, when did you guys do the trail? I was up there with my wife & kids on the 13th? It was definitely an awesome trail. My trans did start to over heat & threw a code. After cooling down I made the last 1000yrds down to the lake in limp mode...😬😬😬 Had to drive out after the lake with 2nd & 3rd gear only. It ended up being a simple fix, a fuse had popped saving my trans relay which could have possibly been a nightmare to find a replacement up there. 05 Dodge Dakota V8 4×4 Heavy Duty Tow Package "open diffs" lift: 2"front 1"rear Tires: 285/75/16 (33's) M/T's You guys are awesome for doing what you do together. I wish I had people to do that with. There will always be people hating on the vehicles you guys choose to take on these trails, dont listen to these fools. As long as you do your research & plan accordingly you can go on any trail your willing to tackle. Stay safe & keep on keeping on brotha!!!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
SP01Danny we did this trail back on 7-25-20. Thanks for the kind words man! Comments are all over the place, some say I’m being over dramatic and some people think we’re in over our heads, but we do as much research as we can before hitting up a trail, and I was very happy with how things went. We didn’t congest the trail, by splitting the group. Those turnouts will only fit 2-3 vehicles. Well, there’s events that are posted up on the Facebook page crossoverlanding (event hub) If you’re looking for some people to get outdoors with. Some people post up day trips, and others will post up overlanding + hiking trips.
@SP01Danny4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip, will do 🤙
@OutdoorFun014 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't seems so hard to get up this trail? I had multiple Subaru's, I've drived a F-150 and GMC 2500 in the 2019' and never got stuck. I have good off road experience... But weirdly, this video seems over dramatic. Don't take me wrong, I'm really trying to be on your side. - I wish I was there -. Perhaps, one day I'll go with my lifted 2021 Crosstrek with the 2.5 (Called Outdoor in Canada). Thank you for the nice video. I liked it. Hopefully, I'll go up that trail in the next few years.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Pro Env quite honestly, this trail was super easy for me. If you watch the rough section part, you can hardly hear my engine, just the gravel I’m driving on top of. It’s easy to forget how difficult a trail would be for someone with little to no experience. Those are the people we have to look out for. The guy driving the White Ford Expedition is the perfect example. There are so many people out there that don’t have the skill (yet). The saying goes, better safe than sorry.
@ZenWorld4 жыл бұрын
What a Zoo..... did you got July 4th? Or normal weekend?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Zen World just a random weekend! 7-25-20
@franciscotrillo82693 жыл бұрын
Good luck
@marrieddezertrat4 жыл бұрын
people were showing up all time of the day/night over labor day weekend. The creek fire sent ash over into the area too
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
marrieddezertrat that sounds miserable. I was at a Grant lake during Labor Day weekend. I woke up at 3am having a little trouble breathing, but nothing too too bad.
@marrieddezertrat4 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring it wasn't too bad driving there. You could see smoke towards mammoth. But Saturday evening it was smokey.. not horrible but you could see heavy smoke rolling in. Then the full moon came out... then more heavy smoke and ash. Sunday you couldn't feel the heat of the sun it was so thick
@averagealice88774 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I doubt we will ever do this just due to the crowds
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Average Alice if you can make it out here during the week, there should be hardly anyone here. Some friends camped here on Thursday and they said they were the only ones there.
@averagealice88774 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring thanks. Good to know.
@mojavedesertsonorandesert95314 жыл бұрын
SANDRA IS PRETTY AWESOME!✌️🏜️⚒️
@1999glock Жыл бұрын
Looks like a Los Angeles freeway today. Used to go to Laurel Lakes in the 1980's and early 1990's when I was the only vehicle in the campground. No thanks.
@JonDZ_Adventuring Жыл бұрын
This is the only time I visited this lake, and I never had the urge to come back
@1999glock Жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Yeah "camping" used to be just that, roughin' it in the sticks. Camping is now nothing but an "off road" parking lot filled to the brim with loud mouthed "city folk" parked 10 feet apart.
@ItsMRIFILM4 жыл бұрын
You should do more trails in so-cal like Kern county area
@Dusther2104 жыл бұрын
This video reminds me of an American version of 4WD247
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
The 4WD Action family is awesome! I didn’t know this guy has his own channel! Thanks for letting me know, I can definitely learn from this guy and try to up my game.
@seanc85144 жыл бұрын
Your joking right?
@cmsjca4 жыл бұрын
Are you going to do a video about how you mounted your ScanGauge II? Looks like you may have gotten a longer cable than what came with it and how did you route it? It looks pretty clean on your system.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Chris M oh yeah, it’s been a little while since I installed it, but I do remember buying 8 ft. Ethernet cable. I totally forgot about that. Actually, it’s rare but my scan gauge 2 will cut out and I’ll have to unplug & replug it to reconnect. YOU just gave me an idea!!! I should buy better quality Ethernet wire!!!! Thanks!!!!!! Doing a video on the scangauge II would be a good idea.
@averagealice88774 жыл бұрын
You’re right- Funnel looks a lot harder
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Funnel lake is quite a bit harder 😃
@DuanDao4 жыл бұрын
You've been up to Coyote Flats w/ your Passport, some of the sections are nuts.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Duan Dao yeah, this trail doesn’t compare. The SxS guy had no idea hehe 😅
@DuanDao4 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring I went up there in a stock 4r with 33’s and it was sketch I can’t imagine
@pingpong9094 жыл бұрын
i went up there a few weeks back. Didnt find anything areas difficult at all. Just take your time and let the truck do the work :)... Granted i was driving my GX470, Radflo 2.5 resi lift + 33"... the only thing annoying was how many rocks you gotta go over until you get to the nice smoother sections.
@DuanDao4 жыл бұрын
Vee Dub yeah we went up to the flat area and we had to straddle some sections that were washed out pretty nuts
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Was it the section where I brought out the tow strap and helped pull up the white ridgeline? I noticed the water running down the trail there and thought the trail would get worse and worse. Actually, (funny how things are interconnected) I was talking to a park ranger at the Monache meadows back in July and he said he was assigned to doing a project to divert the creek so it didn’t mess up the trail.
@Krystal0914 жыл бұрын
Hello Jon! Thank you for entertaining us. I have a Honda pilot black edition 2020, and I'm planning to do some adventuring soon. Can you help me information with lift wheels and tires? Thanks
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Emerzon Feniquito thanks for watching! 🙏 As far as the lift, I’d go with Traxda because they have front camber adjustment. The other brands do not, and I’ve had people messaging me that it’s problematic. So, that’s why I’d go with Traxda. They have the standard 2 inch lift, or if you’re feeling extreme, they have a 3.5 inch lift. Eventually, I’ll go with the 3.5 inch kit. Tire choice will depend on what you plan to do with the Passport. An aggressive tire like Falken Wildpeak AT3W is good for off-road, but the trade off is worse onroad performance. With the trails I’ve been doing lately, I’m glad I have them, but it’s not as pleasant behind the wheel during long road trips. My previous tire was the Cooper Discovery AT3 4S and that was such a great all around performer! Definitely not as grippy as the Falkens though. Toyo Open Country AT3 is a new tire that I’d love to try at some point. So, just ask yourself, what kind of driving are looking to do.
@Krystal0914 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring Great! Thank you so much!
@moonsapling4 жыл бұрын
Taking a CVT/AT without low range on this trail...damn now thats how to be unique! Keep it up. Also did the roof rack of the Ascent came loose when he got stuck at the end of the video?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
That’s very observant of you, yes the roof rack did come loose! Haha
@moonsapling4 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring tbh so glad I started watching your videos again. This channel feels so warm cause you make us, viewers, feel like a part of the adventure!
@2-old-Forthischet Жыл бұрын
And yet I recently saw a video of a stock 2wd 4Runner that made it up to the lake. Go figure.
@Deetroiter4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Did they need alignments after? Hah
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks! I’m not sure about the other guys and gals but I actually had my alignment checked by the Honda Dealership and they said my alignment is still within spec. This means 1.) if really is -or- 2.) they were too lazy to check. I’m leaning towards the later. I didn’t even get my alignment report.
@killahjeep4 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my lifted Tacoma..... much more capable, and I dont have to worry about those tiny 6" rocks.. I can roll over them. but good on you for getting out there, and making an adventure with what you have. have a great day!
@JonDZ_Adventuring3 жыл бұрын
You Should buy a Jeep. JK. have a great day as well :P
@killahjeep3 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring nah my v8 cj, does just fine....
@Ram142504 жыл бұрын
Hey Jon! Great video! What position do you leave the Passport in (Drive-Mode) when tackling these type of trails? Like the area where the Expedition high centered in that area? By the way, that guy didn't look like he had much of a clue how to drive off road. Looked like he did everything possible incorrectly. Hope Expedition man was safe going back down. Do you-all bring extra fuel along sometimes?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr. Ram! Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it when you do. So, honestly, I just left the Passport in “Drive” and “Mud mode” the entire time. Even during the “rough section” you probably didn’t hear much revving. It was pretty easy for the passport. At the very end of the video, you’ll see me driving a Ford F-150 up a steep rutted hill. I was driving it for two ladies that were scared to get up that obstacle. In 4low 1st gear, it felt just like the passport. The passport drives more like a 4wd than an Awd, and it’ll it all automatically with “Drive”. The only time I for sure use Sport mode and 1st gear is when I drive downhill. The engine braking really helps.
@marrieddezertrat4 жыл бұрын
Ill be there in a few weeks
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@marrieddezertrat4 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I hope we get there early enough for a site. Great video by the way! Loved the guy telling your group that they'll get body damage
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Good luck! The earlier the better.
@orientacionnavegacion51692 жыл бұрын
Hello Jon, good job!!, did the subaru outback 2.5 come up along that trail? Enjoy!!
@anthonysmith98644 жыл бұрын
9:15 poor guy just wants to get through and lost his "line" to the knucklehead blocking his path. 💩
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Smith hahaha! I noticed that while I was editing the video. If... I wasn’t parked there, he probably would have been comfortable with taking the line we all drove up. Haha.
@anthonysmith98644 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring right on. I was just being a 💩. Kinda looked like the standing guy was where the white suv wanted to go. Love your vids and passion for getting out there in the underrated rigs. I have a baja and I have yet to not make it where I need to go! Rock on brother and thanks for the adventures. 🤙
@qmmt97864 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, when you recovered the Ascent. Why didn't you use the recovery boards?
@bradenb4 жыл бұрын
Looked like it would probably have taken just as much or more time for that. It's always best to go for the lowest-effort recovery.
@qmmt97864 жыл бұрын
Braden Bartlett Makes sense. I don’t know how those boards are mounted too. Whenever I need a small recovery it’s a pain to get the recovery boards out.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Braden that’s exactly why. Typically traction boards are mounted in a way that it’s too time consuming to make available. The trail was backing up, so I just got right to it. I believe the whole recovery was 3 minutes.
@qmmt97864 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring Thanks for the response. Makes perfect sense. I love your videos. Keep up the good work.
@nickadkins13244 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why we tried this first. I mounted them just with a wing nut but seriously this was way quicker the way we did
@dixy2k4 жыл бұрын
And I am sitting here asking when the hardest part will come up... 😁
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
It was a pretty simple trail. Moderate 4wd trails are just so easy for experienced drivers in any vehicle. You should read the comment from Mike Hawk, he says we don’t have any business being on these roads 🤣. However, This trail would be difficult to a beginner with a stock awd vehicle.
@adventuretrails1ato4 жыл бұрын
There was a hard section to get to a parking spot on top by the lake! 8 out 10 I would say. I had to put the lockers on and negotiate a very tight turn with Boulders on both sides and then climb over a bunch of rocks. It would have been cool to have that on video. I'm the driver of the Nissan Xterra.
@tonystarks3-114 жыл бұрын
Was that difficult area just as difficult as old dale road?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Good question, I’d say Old Dale Road was more technical (which wasn’t bad at all), but this entire trial is on a steep incline which probably demands more from the vehicle driven.
@Albuermeduardo4 жыл бұрын
Did the Ascent driver turn on X mode when stucked? By the way, awesome footage man. Thanks for uploading it.
@nickadkins13244 жыл бұрын
Hi I am the ascent driver. I did not have xmode on. I took a wrong line. It took me too tight and when I backed up it got into an off camber position. It wasn't a big deal though haha
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Totally my fault Nick!
@nickadkins13244 жыл бұрын
It seriously was no big deal!! Small mistake that we got out of with no issue. So happy to be part of this trip and if the mistake turned into a "stuck" situation we easily had the equipment to get me out.
@Albuermeduardo4 жыл бұрын
@@nickadkins1324 I think x mode would've gotten you out of it in a bit. Thanks for the experience and the footage. I really enjoyed it. Waiting for part two. God bless you both.
@nickadkins13244 жыл бұрын
I will try next time
@hybrid902000 Жыл бұрын
For the fellow that got stuck on the switchback, why didn’t he just used his traction boards instead of you guys pushing? Seems like it would be a faster option no?
@JonDZ_Adventuring Жыл бұрын
It would have been a slower option and it might not have worked.
@fzbones624 жыл бұрын
Love the videos! Curious how your transmission is holding up? I've had issues with mine and I have done zero off-roading lol. 2019 Elite trim
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Mine has been holding up great! You must have one of those rare 2nd gen ZF9’s that may have been assembled wrong. What exactly is wrong with yours? Can’t be worse than a total failure like in the last vehicle I owned. By the way, I have 43k miles on mine. Trouble free ownership. I just got it back from Honda for a free oil change. Alignment was done back at 5k miles and is still within spec, LOL. Knock on wood, but with the abuse I put this thing through, I figure something would go wrong by now.
@bartonre Жыл бұрын
If you a going to tackle really uneven terrain with cars that were not designed for it, you should be aware of left foot braking (as used for off-roading, not racing). The fellow that got hung up on the switch back could have driven out unassisted using the technique. Left foot braking is used with open differentials to distribute power more evenly to all tires when some are spinning. It involves braking with the left foot as power is applied with the right. The braking stops the spinning tires resulting in some power being redirected to the tires in firm contact with the ground. I have seen many experienced off-roaders use it successfully in exactly the situation presented here.
@JonDZ_Adventuring Жыл бұрын
I use left foot braking all the time. But I was told that his CVT equipped vehicle cuts the gas when the brake is applied. Not sure if that is totally true, because I saw an Outback with a V6 and CVT use the left foot brake technique.
@Anonymous-ce6zg Жыл бұрын
Think that ford explorer is done exploring 😂
@WhatzsProduction4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't look bad unlike the coyote flats imma try that whenever I got free time 😬 thanks Jon for sharing 👍
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
This trail is cake compare to the coyote flats/funnel lake
@jakubgruszczynski40692 жыл бұрын
I would like to give a shout out to ppl parked on the side of the trail right by the turn. Starts at 8.04. Good job making it harder for the white ford to pass by and give him directions. Also a big shout out to the narrator who did not mention that at all, but described only what the ford driver needs to do in order to get by. Those are the things that you DO NOT do on the technical and rough roads such as this one.....People......
@JonDZ_Adventuring2 жыл бұрын
You don't get out much do you? I ask because there was plenty of room for the driver of the white ford expedition to pass, and he also took the wrong line. This trail is considered a "moderate 4WD trail" and on this day was in good condition. You're being overly dramatic, the first in the 2 years of this videos existence. Congratulations I guess. Thanks for the shout out, have a good day.
@rottieshepcalibre91564 жыл бұрын
i honestly think i could of done this in my 2007 rav4.. its all about car placement and correct speed.. the steep part i might need help with but apart from that.. the biker was trying to scare you all off there.. and the dude in the white ford who got stuck looked like a really bad driver.. taking all the wrong lines.. nice video guys, thanks
@GrnXnham4 жыл бұрын
Maybe...but remember that it always looks easier on video compared to when you have your feet on the ground. It's very difficult to capture steepness on video.
@KTMcaptain3 жыл бұрын
26:00 why have traction boards but not use them when stuck?
@Mandothemagnificent2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this myself. In fact rock stacking would have more than likely suffice to get that wheel the traction.
@ThinkFreely2012 Жыл бұрын
Neither would have been necessary if he'd used left foot braking or held the gas and let the Subaru do its thing
@aaronrepper76494 жыл бұрын
Got a 2017 Honda Ridgeline and just added 2 inch lift in front and 1 inch in rear and put on some 265/60/18 falcon wildpeak at3w. Can't wait to take it on some trails like this.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Nice! How about skid plates? There’s a guy on Instagram that busted his oil pan. Could have totally been prevented. Nolo designs makes a good plate for $275
@aaronrepper76494 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring will look into that.thanks
@edgarandreasyan5213 жыл бұрын
I’m looking on gaia and google maps won’t give driving directions to the trail heads
@JavierLopez-ni8nu4 жыл бұрын
What a cluster Fk that place has become .
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Haha! Because of Covid, people don’t have anything else to do. It was bad, I’ll go over that in part 2. We had to double park just to hang out on the lake for an hour.
@MrPiimpslap4 жыл бұрын
Blame Covid, everyone has become a camper/overlander since every other activity is closed. But on the other hand, I have been green lit by the wife to keep upgrading the jeep, so that we can get to much less car-friendly camping locations.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Eric, making lemonade out of life’s lemons 🍋!
@averagealice88774 жыл бұрын
If you find any uncrowned trails this summer- whatever you do- don’t disclose their locations on- line. People who are dedicated can still find the remote places and those who are just joy riding can go to these well-publicized places and will probably have a good time anyway.
@Drycon4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea a passport was this capable, ive only ever had full frame 4x4s, but now i know to not overlook a passport if i see a deal on one
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Bigponcho they come with 8.1 inches of ground clearance, so the capability definitely has to be “unlocked” with a lift. My passport has 11-1/4” at the front skid plate and 11-1/2” at the rear diff. The lowest hanging points are the lower control arms. In the rear, the lowest point on the arms is 9”. AWD system, high biased rear LSD, and the aggressive 9 speed make this a more capable AWD, but, it’s still doesn’t compare to 4wd with traction aids.
@Drycon4 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring i dont even wheel, i just like to camp, so a passport or somthing like it, might do the trick for me
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Bigponcho yeah, I think it will. I’m currently 1400 miles into my Yellowstone road trip right now. With 4 adults and loaded down with gear so much that I’ve lost about an inch of ground clearance at the rear differential, I’m still getting 19.4 mpg. This is with the 80 mph speed limit through Utah. I expect the MPG’s to improve to around 21-22 on the way home. Without all my mods, you’ll be getting around 24-27 mpg.
@CrazyGreek804 жыл бұрын
07:56 that expedition has no business being up there with factory suspension.
@bradenb4 жыл бұрын
"Go with some friends!" .... need friends for that :cry:
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Haha! The overlanding community is awesome, you have friends everywhere, I made so many through KZfaq and Instagram. If you’re from So Cal, message me on Instagram @jondz_adventuring
@bradenb4 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring sadly I'm not, but maybe after all this COVID crap is over I'll come out.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Braden Bartlett we have a Facebook page setup for events. Seriously, there’s always someone available to get on a trail with. Join up. It’s not a group, just a “page” to help like minds get together. facebook.com/groups/1097379240623726/?ref=share
@Ww8.34 жыл бұрын
Don’t get me wrong these cars are surprisingly capable. But for the same price you can do all this more comfortably in a stock 4Runner. These crossovers are not happy lol
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
I have a video about that. I actually use to drive a FJ cruiser but picked the Honda Passport for a specific reason. Here’s the vid: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftKXZ5R0kr2domg.html A 4 runner is cool if you keep it local, but I drive all over the western USA and an off-road capable crossover (especially the Honda Passport) gets through the long drives more comfortably and efficiently. I actually tried to get into a 2019 Tacoma, but at 6’1” 260lbs. The truck with the biggest cab was still basically a 2 seater to me.
@MrPiimpslap4 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Why not buy an older off-roader and keep the Passport commuter friendly? I bought an older jeep for a weekend toy, you worry less when the vehicle isnt your daily. For the daily driver, I picked up a 5 year old focus, I'm 6'3" and it fits just fine.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Eric, I wish I could. I actually go over that in the video I linked. At this point in my life, I can only own 1 vehicle (mostly do to parking issues). Eventually, I’d like to own a half ton diesel truck with a slide in camper
@DanielKuGoogle4 жыл бұрын
Great video. What do you use to air back up your tires? Do you carry a compressor?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Ku thanks! I’m currently using a Viair 88p tire inflator I carried over from my Subaru Forester, but it’s time for me to upgrade. I have a list of tire inflators on my informational website, here’s the link: crossoverlanding.com/trail-gear-inflators
@DanielKuGoogle4 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring How long does it take you to inflate from 20 Psi back to 35 psi? The inflator I used takes me about 8 minutes per tire now, which will take me 30 minutes before I can get back on the road. Any suggestions?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Ku id get the snotty built 6CFM air compressor. Link on the website. I actually inflate from 20-40 PSI, it takes me a good 6 minutes per tire. Yes... it sucks! Worked great on the Forester XT with 235/65R17 29.0” tires, but now that I have 255/65R18 32.1” tires it takes forever.
@owenw43154 жыл бұрын
think this is do able with a 2017 tacoma offroad thats 2wd? It has rear lockers, bilstein shocks and AT tires
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Owen W I love prerunners, such cool trucks. Many have said this is doable in a 2wd truck with A-trac. Since your rear locker is made of magic, I think you’ll be fine! I’d compare this trail to Monache meadows, except this trail is a bit steeper. I’d recommend 2L from the start. Actually, my friend made easy work of the Monache meadows in his 2nd gen prerunner.
@owenw43154 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring thats great to hear! Thanks for getting back to me so quick. I'm starting to get into overlanding (after I bought a 2wd truck of course - ugh) but im starting to realize how much of a difference those rear lockers make. I really enjoyed this video btw, its the first I've seen that has actually taught me things like choosing lines and strategies for trail riding. It also really made me want to check out this spot- im definitely adding it to my list for the near future!
@andrei93702 жыл бұрын
Do you think a raised 2wd rear locked 4runner would have issues making this trail?
@JonDZ_Adventuring2 жыл бұрын
When we did it back in July of 2020, the trail was in descent shape. I hear that this trail has become so eroded that it was shut down for maintenance. If the trail is in the condition depicted in this video, you would be fine, but I hear 4WDs were getting stuck in the spring of 2021.
@andrei93702 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring thanks for that info. Keep up the great work 🤙
@davidjuarez22154 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 VW tiguan awd with 9.5" clearance do you think I can make it?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
david juarez a 2019 tiguan should do better than the Subaru’s, so I’d say so. Historically, the Haldex AWD system wasnt so good, but Haldex 5.0, like in your Tiguan is now one of the better AWD systems. Also, your ride has a 18.6:1 crawl ratio which rivals a Jeep renegade trailhawks 20.4:1. Other crossovers only have a 12-14:1 crawl ratio. 9.5” of ground clearance is right on the border of having enough ground clearance, so offroad skill (wheel placement) will be very important.
@davidjuarez22154 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring thank you very much for that info. Stay safe out there !!
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
david juarez thanks! You as well! Our whole state is on 🔥. 😱
@davidjuarez22154 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring it sucks man so many trails gone
@MissouriAdventures3 жыл бұрын
I still think you should just get a 100 series Land Cruiser. Take all of the money of a car payment that you would save and use it for gas money.
@devonmarantz33242 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Rav4 Adventure. What is the difference between the 2018 part time reactive AWD vs. the new 2019 AWD system? Would I be able to get there with mud terrains and a skid plate?
@JonDZ_Adventuring2 жыл бұрын
This moderate 4WD trail will be hard to severe for an AWD, so completing this trail will be heavily dependent on driver skill and experience.
@1delpielago2 жыл бұрын
I will like to join you guys for an adventure, how can I contact for it? I have a 2018 Subaru Forester XT!
@JonDZ_Adventuring2 жыл бұрын
We have a Facebook group called “crossoverlanding (hub)”
@DaciaProject4 жыл бұрын
What was your tire pressure? How many watts is your radio? 2 or 5, or?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Dacia Project I’m not sure what the others were running. I run my tires at 20 psi. Radio’s transmit at 5 watts
@DaciaProject4 жыл бұрын
Are these all with open differentials?
@AndrewJamison792 жыл бұрын
Is that typical to have part of you group get out and call hazards for the rest coming up or was that due to that particular part being so bad?
@themarlatts3 жыл бұрын
You think this is doable in a double cab f350 FX4 an 8 foot bed? I have the clearance, but the length of my beast is what concerns me.
@tommysmith85883 жыл бұрын
you will have no problem making to above the final switch back. The switch back was tight for me in my double cab long bed tacoma. But I have seen 4wd ecocline vans make the turn and even a sprinter van.
@marrieddezertrat4 жыл бұрын
did you have permits to camp?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Good Question! Because Laurel lakes isn't a wilderness area, you don't need permits
@marrieddezertrat4 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring sorry but you are incorrect. From the forest service website "John Muir Wilderness permit is required year round for overnight trips" almost all parts of the sierras need a wilderness permit for over night
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Right. This isn’t John Muir wilderness though. Sandra is an immaculate planner. She’s also a Lawyer. She even went as so far to speak with a Forest Ranger. But who knows, I’m sure we all have been told one thing by this ranger and another thing by another ranger. How sure are you that we’re incorrect?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
marrieddezertrat here’s the website. www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/inyo/recreation/recarea/?recid=20464&actid=50 It says that once you exit the 4x4 trail and enter the hiking trail you enter the wilderness area, and for that you need a wilderness permit
@marrieddezertrat4 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I would agree with you. I checked out the map. Surprisingly the lake and the road are not in the wilderness. Good call
@BRRRT2414 жыл бұрын
Nothing difficult on this trail at all
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
BRRRT241 right, it’s a “moderate” 4wd trail, not “difficult”.
@BRRRT2414 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring been on it several times, not trying to knock your video but it’s just a dirt road. I’ve been off-roading for 30 years just don’t see it as even moderate
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
30 years is a lot of time to build up your skill set. The guy with the white Ford Expedition is a perfect example of what this trail can do to beginners. He was stuck and high centered on a rock for 30 minutes and blocked the trail. Then I captured the part where he smashed into more rocks. It’s my responsibility to assume the viewer is a beginner. Like the saying goes, “better safe than sorry”. There’s also too many cocky drivers out there with capable vehicles that don’t respect this trail and end up destroying their vehicles and leaving car parts and fluids littered across the trail.
@BRRRT2414 жыл бұрын
JonDZ Adventuring nice job on the video. I love that area. Keep on overlanding
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
BRRRT241 thank you for the kind words and sharing your opinion about the trail.
@ryanroland64263 жыл бұрын
What tire pressure where you running on this trail?
@JonDZ_Adventuring3 жыл бұрын
I typically always run 20 psi
@JonDZ_Adventuring3 жыл бұрын
When offroad that is
@ck43914 жыл бұрын
Did you guys go on a weekend?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
c K yes, on a Saturday around 12 noon
@brucemartin4924 жыл бұрын
JonDz are you considering a Bronco sport as your next crossover?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Ha! No! 18:1 crawl ratio would be a downgrade. Not sure how the bronco sport will compete with the Cherokee trailhawk with 56:1
@brucemartin4924 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring With crawl control it should be the better of the 2
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
We shall see. If they put a real transfer case in the bronco sport it would be promising. It’ll be hard to compete with the Cherokee trailhawk because not only does it have real 4 low, but it also has a real rear locker, and we all know how magical lockers are.
@lignas3 жыл бұрын
Hey man...contact me if on your next adventure....like to get into trail/off-road with my new 4runner with the rest of the group.
@JonDZ_Adventuring3 жыл бұрын
Hey there Lee I., Darn! Sound like you just missed the Calico Mountain Haloween Campout last weekend (Oct. 16-18). Please join the facebook page "Crossoverlanding (Event Hub). Here's the link: facebook.com/groups/1097379240623726/ This page is used to get events together and meet like minded people.
@lignas3 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring yah...just found your video today! I’ve been looking at places to go off-road (newbie) here.
@JonDZ_Adventuring3 жыл бұрын
@@lignas I have a trail database on my informational website: crossoverlanding.com/trail-database These trail will be a great place to start.
@chrismcdowell55154 жыл бұрын
WHY? What is the point, why would you not just get a true 4wd. The only capable one in the convoy is the 4runner.
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Chris Mcdowell not all of us can own a car for a certain situation, especially here in California where an extra parking spot is hard to come by. When I make the video “3000 mile road trip to Yellowstone National park” will you be asking why I didn’t drive a Prius there?
@chrismcdowell55154 жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Not at all, actually I will tell you to swing by Utah and ill take you to some really cool off road spots. Just seems like using a standard screwdriver to take out a Philips screw. It will get the job done, but you risk striping the screw. just the wrong tool for the job.
@adventuretrails1ato4 жыл бұрын
Lol! My 2006 Nissan Xterra off-road edition 4wd . Has factory lockers 4wd low and high 6 speed manual transmission! I led up the trail so only a few shots of it in the video.
@chrismcdowell55154 жыл бұрын
great info Didn’t see your Xterra, sorry about that. Body on frame construction, lockers. Good rig.
@m34tba114 жыл бұрын
@@chrismcdowell5515 the driver has more to do with success then the rig. I've seen some subies with good drivers do some bad ass stuff, I've seen morons in Tacomas bog em out and need a yank....
@kevincinnamontoast36694 жыл бұрын
Jeep wranglers have partime 4wd,will they do it?
@JonDZ_Adventuring4 жыл бұрын
Kevin CinnamonToast it’s not part time reactive AWD, so yeah, I think any 4WD will do this. It’s a moderate 4wd trail.
@coffeedollsvp Жыл бұрын
You have 10 inch clearance on ur rig? Bottom of differential to ground?
@JonDZ_Adventuring Жыл бұрын
This is an old video. I have 12.5” at the center line.
@coffeedollsvp Жыл бұрын
Centerline is bottom of differential?...
@JonDZ_Adventuring Жыл бұрын
It is, but also keep in mind the lower control arms taper down to 9” at the lowest point, and that’s because I have 32.1” tires. The centerline is decently wide though. instagram.com/reel/Clmbz7AgFoQ/?igshid=NTdlMDg3MTY=