Would be nice if there was a funnel cake reward for reaching the lake. 😁

JonDZ Adventuring May Erick Sahat’s Bakery will deliver?

JonDZ Adventuring Let me try this again. Maybe Erick Schat’s Bakery in Bishop will deliver.

I was glad to have my emergency brake working this time! Nissan xterra Guy.

theninja001 hey, that sounds Like a good trick! I’ll have to try that with the mirrors!

Joseph Gagnier thanks for watching and the support 🙏!

Same

DavidT Medeiros you’re very welcome ! 🙏

softroadingthewest thanks! Will have to work on part2 as soon as I get back from my 1 week Yellowstone road trip! Have you ever been here? Such an amazing place!

@@JonDZ_Adventuring I was only there as a kid, maybe 11 or 12 years old. Even at that age I remember being awestruck. Enjoy!

Haha! We have a guy commenting below talking crap, Mike Hawk. It’s hilarious because I know You and Nori would be absolutely bored on this trail. But according to Mr. Hawk, we have no business on these trails. Maybe he’s the SxS driver!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

samson phiri thanks 🙏

You’re very welcome! Thanks for stopping by to comment 😃

Hoppy Homestead thanks for the info! Sad to hear about the guy that perished on that switch back, with one wrong move, I can see how that could happen.

Spaceentity I’ve never been to Florida. All I know is y’all have GATORS 🐊! That sounds so scary 😱

@@JonDZ_Adventuring yea, and you have bears up there which are probably worse. We have them in our lakes around the neighborhood. Just don't go swimming and you're o.k.

True! Very very true! Well make your way out here sometime! You have to see Utah atleast once in your life. It’s insanely beautiful.

You’re very welcome Fred!

I have a few videos like that, but another thing that accounts for a vehicle system’s capability is the driver. After this series I plan to do a video about a “difficult 4x4 trail”, and we got two Subaru’s up. One of them being a 2010 Lifted Legacy Sedan with a CVT. I would never believe anyone I’d they told me, but I saw it with my own eyes. This was perfect proof that gobs of skill can safely overcome a trail well beyond a vehicles limits. This video is a bit of a comparison. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLxlpJhi2qfOcWw.html Also, my “Overlanding: how much capability do you need” video lots of footage attacking the same obstacle.

Thanks for watching Mike!

Love softroading in the Ouachitas, Mike!

HuskyNoob Thanks 🙏. Great spot, but TOOOOOO many people! I’d love to go back on a weekday.

Thanks for the kind words John! I heard about a week ago that this trail was shut down to really bad conditions. Man, I really wish my Honda had your low gear transfer case and rear locker. I’m jelly!

@@JonDZ_Adventuring lol thanks for the update. Sketchy road but beautiful place.

Jayce and Jeremy's Adventures. Thanks for watching. Have a good trip!

Thanks for watching David! The 3rd gen Forester with the automatic got through this trail with relative ease. She has a Scangauge ii and I helped her program it to view her trans temp. She only got to 217F, but to be safe, she pulled over before a steep climb. I’m very curious how hot the CVTs got, but they weren’t being monitored. Man... I highly recommend everyone monitors their temps.

Erik Lehnsherr thanks! I’ll be honest, I had a spotter fail at the switchback 🤣. I paid for it with dust in the face during the recovery. I literally inhaled some dust and I was coughing uncontrollably the whole day 😭. Everything else went very smooth. Our planning really paid off! I’ll be working on part 2 of this series and hopefully have it released by this Wednesday.

Thanks Andy! You’re very welcome

Eric Udell thanks!

Thank you 🙏

Thanks Mr. Bern!

After Cold Water Canyon, none of these trails should look challenging to you 🤣. Yes, sooooo many people!

JonDZ Adventuring cold water was a rude awakening haha

Yeah, I thought the 2nd time around would be better.... nope, not really. That’s the limit of difficulty that I’d like my trail.

Well, his front passenger tire was digging into the ground and rear driver tire was up in the air. He also installed overload springs to the rear. So do you think they may have reduced up travel enough?

It did not overheat. I am not sure if the front left touched the dirt to hold up. By the way I am the driver

Sean Miller thanks! Yes, your Jeep would make easy work on this trail. IMO, Wranglers are on another level. Actually, the only vehicle that didn’t have extra ground clearance was the Toyota 4Runner TRD pro, but 9.5” here, is plenty. My Passport has 11-1/4” at the front skid plate and 11-1/2” at the rear diff. Feel free to join us sometime, there’s been a lot of dedicated off-roaders joining us lately.

JonDZ Adventuring That’s awesome clearance. I’d love to get in on one of your trips. I’m definitely more of an Overlander. I’m not into rock crawling, or hardcore 4Wheeling, but I do enjoy a technical trail. More than anything, I just love getting out into the wilderness. I’m usually alone, but only because I don’t know many “like minded” people that enjoy the sport. I used to Overland with my cousin regularly, but that’s no longer an option, and there are many trails I’m forced to pass up because of the risk of getting stuck by myself without help.

Sean Miller we need to get you on a trip with the guys from borderline explorer and their Jeep. Hopefully you’ll all let me join you 😃.

JonDZ Adventuring A Jeep group?

Sean Miller not a Jeep group. Actually, these guys contacted me on KZfaq and Instagram and went on a trip out to Joshua Tree (Old Dale Road), The rest is history. 2 guys that drive vehicles on the more capable side. They attract more Jeep and Toyota people though.

Matt Johnson thanks 🙏. I’m the wrong guy to ask, but the guy that was point, can do a better job at answering this for you. I’ll ask if he can respond to you.

You can make it. I have gone up in a Stock 96 2wd Dodge Dakota, was along time ago though. Also did it in 2wd with my 2012 4Runner TE.

Thanks Jackpot Joey. By the way Matt Johnson feel free to join the Facebook page. It’s a place for like minds to put trips together.

Awesome! Thank you guys! This is a huge help :) joining the FB Group now!

Your 4runner has a button that engages a limited slip that works by activating the brakes to help with wheel spin. Pretty effective for a 2WD.

Anthony Datu I know exactly how you feel, except at one point, I have owned a FJ cruiser. Before I was offroading, I’d just drive it from Los Angeles 100 miles to Big Bear and 330 miles to Mammoth for snow boarding. I used the 4 high solely for adverse snowy weather. As a highway vehicle, it sucked balls. 14 mpg because it was the TRD “trim” with the giant built in 1.5” tubed roof basket/rack. I bought a Subaru WRX and life was good... well until I discovered camping/overlanding. Then I got into a 2015 FXT for more cargo space and ground clearance. Some may not understand why I won’t go back to body on frame vehicles like the FJ, but like you said, you spend 90% onroad. It actually might be more like 97% to be honest. You know I get our a lot, but my offroad miles account for only a small percentage. So, that’s why I bought the passport. I wanted more capability but I still wanted a good daily driver. Actually, the #1 thing was a car that would be more “reliable” and that’s why I looked at a 2019 Tacoma first. It’s just too small of a vehicle, I really wish they would have made the cabin taller, I’d love to be in one. The 2nd gen Tacoma I can do. I’m not sure why they decided to shrink the Cabin and worsen the ergonomics for the 3rd gen. The Honda dealership was next door and I had already researched how capable the drivetrain was. What sold me was how awesome it performed onroad. It’s so quick (pre 32.1 inch tires), the luxury and comfort was awesome. The big question is how long will the 2nd gen ZF9 last. Will it make it to 400k miles? Man, there’s not many choices out there for a onroad happy dedicated off-roader. I think the JL wranglers are great. The ride is impressive for a solid front and rear axle vehicle. The bronco might turn out good, it’s just too early. But if you’re looking for a used dedicated off-roader pre 2018, everything is just so floaty and out of their element on pavement. If a Tacoma works for you, I’d go with that! Not quite as bad the more aged body on frame Toyota’s.

I can honestly tell you, the cliff looks just as scary in person 😱. I saw a lot of SxS driving up and down to the lake. I think they rent them out around that area. As far as my vehicle components, I have 43k miles and haven’t had to replace anything yet besides my tires (they had 35k miles of life). However, I don’t know how long things will last, I’m hoping my axles and shocks will last until 80k, but I’m barely over half way there. I will let you all know when something goes out.

Stephen Dee yeah, to an experienced driver, this trail shouldn’t look too bad. There’s one comment tread of a guy telling us we didn’t belong. Haha, I guess he’s simply not experienced enough.

@@JonDZ_Adventuring I heard that in the video and anticipated something Rubiconlike. And then what's actually there was that slightly rutted trail with a few rocks to dodge around. Looked like cake for your crew.

Thanks Marc! You would have loved this trip, because we hiked 10 miles round trip with 1800 ft of elevation gain, to Duck Lake. I know you like to get your hiking in on your trips! The highest my transmission got here was 218F, so im in no rush to get a transcooler.

High.soula ha! I’m bottom of the totem pole, but thank you for the kind words.

Dallas Ray thanks! I see it all the time. A capable rig doesn’t make up trail experience and skill, and that’s something that you just can’t see at first glance. The Subaru Forester that pulled over has a 4 speed automatic transmission. We were the only two with scangauge2s so who knows how hot the other transmissions got. I highly recommend everyone monitors their temps. My previous vehicle was a Subaru Forester XT with a CVT and it died at 60K miles. After the no charge replacement I got into the Passport. Even though the transmission in the new ride isn’t prone to overheating, it still peaked at 218F on this trail.

SP01Danny we did this trail back on 7-25-20. Thanks for the kind words man! Comments are all over the place, some say I’m being over dramatic and some people think we’re in over our heads, but we do as much research as we can before hitting up a trail, and I was very happy with how things went. We didn’t congest the trail, by splitting the group. Those turnouts will only fit 2-3 vehicles. Well, there’s events that are posted up on the Facebook page crossoverlanding (event hub) If you’re looking for some people to get outdoors with. Some people post up day trips, and others will post up overlanding + hiking trips.

Thanks for the tip, will do 🤙

Pro Env quite honestly, this trail was super easy for me. If you watch the rough section part, you can hardly hear my engine, just the gravel I’m driving on top of. It’s easy to forget how difficult a trail would be for someone with little to no experience. Those are the people we have to look out for. The guy driving the White Ford Expedition is the perfect example. There are so many people out there that don’t have the skill (yet). The saying goes, better safe than sorry.

Zen World just a random weekend! 7-25-20

marrieddezertrat that sounds miserable. I was at a Grant lake during Labor Day weekend. I woke up at 3am having a little trouble breathing, but nothing too too bad.

@@JonDZ_Adventuring it wasn't too bad driving there. You could see smoke towards mammoth. But Saturday evening it was smokey.. not horrible but you could see heavy smoke rolling in. Then the full moon came out... then more heavy smoke and ash. Sunday you couldn't feel the heat of the sun it was so thick

Average Alice if you can make it out here during the week, there should be hardly anyone here. Some friends camped here on Thursday and they said they were the only ones there.

JonDZ Adventuring thanks. Good to know.

This is the only time I visited this lake, and I never had the urge to come back

@@JonDZ_Adventuring Yeah "camping" used to be just that, roughin' it in the sticks. Camping is now nothing but an "off road" parking lot filled to the brim with loud mouthed "city folk" parked 10 feet apart.

The 4WD Action family is awesome! I didn’t know this guy has his own channel! Thanks for letting me know, I can definitely learn from this guy and try to up my game.

Your joking right?

Chris M oh yeah, it’s been a little while since I installed it, but I do remember buying 8 ft. Ethernet cable. I totally forgot about that. Actually, it’s rare but my scan gauge 2 will cut out and I’ll have to unplug & replug it to reconnect. YOU just gave me an idea!!! I should buy better quality Ethernet wire!!!! Thanks!!!!!! Doing a video on the scangauge II would be a good idea.

Funnel lake is quite a bit harder 😃

Duan Dao yeah, this trail doesn’t compare. The SxS guy had no idea hehe 😅

JonDZ Adventuring I went up there in a stock 4r with 33’s and it was sketch I can’t imagine

i went up there a few weeks back. Didnt find anything areas difficult at all. Just take your time and let the truck do the work :)... Granted i was driving my GX470, Radflo 2.5 resi lift + 33"... the only thing annoying was how many rocks you gotta go over until you get to the nice smoother sections.

Vee Dub yeah we went up to the flat area and we had to straddle some sections that were washed out pretty nuts

Was it the section where I brought out the tow strap and helped pull up the white ridgeline? I noticed the water running down the trail there and thought the trail would get worse and worse. Actually, (funny how things are interconnected) I was talking to a park ranger at the Monache meadows back in July and he said he was assigned to doing a project to divert the creek so it didn’t mess up the trail.

Emerzon Feniquito thanks for watching! 🙏 As far as the lift, I’d go with Traxda because they have front camber adjustment. The other brands do not, and I’ve had people messaging me that it’s problematic. So, that’s why I’d go with Traxda. They have the standard 2 inch lift, or if you’re feeling extreme, they have a 3.5 inch lift. Eventually, I’ll go with the 3.5 inch kit. Tire choice will depend on what you plan to do with the Passport. An aggressive tire like Falken Wildpeak AT3W is good for off-road, but the trade off is worse onroad performance. With the trails I’ve been doing lately, I’m glad I have them, but it’s not as pleasant behind the wheel during long road trips. My previous tire was the Cooper Discovery AT3 4S and that was such a great all around performer! Definitely not as grippy as the Falkens though. Toyo Open Country AT3 is a new tire that I’d love to try at some point. So, just ask yourself, what kind of driving are looking to do.

JonDZ Adventuring Great! Thank you so much!

That’s very observant of you, yes the roof rack did come loose! Haha

@@JonDZ_Adventuring tbh so glad I started watching your videos again. This channel feels so warm cause you make us, viewers, feel like a part of the adventure!

Haha! Thanks! I’m not sure about the other guys and gals but I actually had my alignment checked by the Honda Dealership and they said my alignment is still within spec. This means 1.) if really is -or- 2.) they were too lazy to check. I’m leaning towards the later. I didn’t even get my alignment report.

You Should buy a Jeep. JK. have a great day as well :P

@@JonDZ_Adventuring nah my v8 cj, does just fine....

Hey Mr. Ram! Thanks for stopping by, I really appreciate it when you do. So, honestly, I just left the Passport in “Drive” and “Mud mode” the entire time. Even during the “rough section” you probably didn’t hear much revving. It was pretty easy for the passport. At the very end of the video, you’ll see me driving a Ford F-150 up a steep rutted hill. I was driving it for two ladies that were scared to get up that obstacle. In 4low 1st gear, it felt just like the passport. The passport drives more like a 4wd than an Awd, and it’ll it all automatically with “Drive”. The only time I for sure use Sport mode and 1st gear is when I drive downhill. The engine braking really helps.

Enjoy!

@@JonDZ_Adventuring I hope we get there early enough for a site. Great video by the way! Loved the guy telling your group that they'll get body damage

Good luck! The earlier the better.

Anthony Smith hahaha! I noticed that while I was editing the video. If... I wasn’t parked there, he probably would have been comfortable with taking the line we all drove up. Haha.

@@JonDZ_Adventuring right on. I was just being a 💩. Kinda looked like the standing guy was where the white suv wanted to go. Love your vids and passion for getting out there in the underrated rigs. I have a baja and I have yet to not make it where I need to go! Rock on brother and thanks for the adventures. 🤙

Looked like it would probably have taken just as much or more time for that. It's always best to go for the lowest-effort recovery.

Braden Bartlett Makes sense. I don’t know how those boards are mounted too. Whenever I need a small recovery it’s a pain to get the recovery boards out.

Braden that’s exactly why. Typically traction boards are mounted in a way that it’s too time consuming to make available. The trail was backing up, so I just got right to it. I believe the whole recovery was 3 minutes.

JonDZ Adventuring Thanks for the response. Makes perfect sense. I love your videos. Keep up the good work.

That's exactly why we tried this first. I mounted them just with a wing nut but seriously this was way quicker the way we did

It was a pretty simple trail. Moderate 4wd trails are just so easy for experienced drivers in any vehicle. You should read the comment from Mike Hawk, he says we don’t have any business being on these roads 🤣. However, This trail would be difficult to a beginner with a stock awd vehicle.

There was a hard section to get to a parking spot on top by the lake! 8 out 10 I would say. I had to put the lockers on and negotiate a very tight turn with Boulders on both sides and then climb over a bunch of rocks. It would have been cool to have that on video. I'm the driver of the Nissan Xterra.

Good question, I’d say Old Dale Road was more technical (which wasn’t bad at all), but this entire trial is on a steep incline which probably demands more from the vehicle driven.

Hi I am the ascent driver. I did not have xmode on. I took a wrong line. It took me too tight and when I backed up it got into an off camber position. It wasn't a big deal though haha

Totally my fault Nick!

It seriously was no big deal!! Small mistake that we got out of with no issue. So happy to be part of this trip and if the mistake turned into a "stuck" situation we easily had the equipment to get me out.

@@nickadkins1324 I think x mode would've gotten you out of it in a bit. Thanks for the experience and the footage. I really enjoyed it. Waiting for part two. God bless you both.

I will try next time

It would have been a slower option and it might not have worked.

Thanks! Mine has been holding up great! You must have one of those rare 2nd gen ZF9’s that may have been assembled wrong. What exactly is wrong with yours? Can’t be worse than a total failure like in the last vehicle I owned. By the way, I have 43k miles on mine. Trouble free ownership. I just got it back from Honda for a free oil change. Alignment was done back at 5k miles and is still within spec, LOL. Knock on wood, but with the abuse I put this thing through, I figure something would go wrong by now.

I use left foot braking all the time. But I was told that his CVT equipped vehicle cuts the gas when the brake is applied. Not sure if that is totally true, because I saw an Outback with a V6 and CVT use the left foot brake technique.

This trail is cake compare to the coyote flats/funnel lake

You don't get out much do you? I ask because there was plenty of room for the driver of the white ford expedition to pass, and he also took the wrong line. This trail is considered a "moderate 4WD trail" and on this day was in good condition. You're being overly dramatic, the first in the 2 years of this videos existence. Congratulations I guess. Thanks for the shout out, have a good day.

Maybe...but remember that it always looks easier on video compared to when you have your feet on the ground. It's very difficult to capture steepness on video.

I was thinking this myself. In fact rock stacking would have more than likely suffice to get that wheel the traction.

Neither would have been necessary if he'd used left foot braking or held the gas and let the Subaru do its thing

Nice! How about skid plates? There’s a guy on Instagram that busted his oil pan. Could have totally been prevented. Nolo designs makes a good plate for $275

@@JonDZ_Adventuring will look into that.thanks

Haha! Because of Covid, people don’t have anything else to do. It was bad, I’ll go over that in part 2. We had to double park just to hang out on the lake for an hour.

Blame Covid, everyone has become a camper/overlander since every other activity is closed. But on the other hand, I have been green lit by the wife to keep upgrading the jeep, so that we can get to much less car-friendly camping locations.

Eric, making lemonade out of life’s lemons 🍋!

If you find any uncrowned trails this summer- whatever you do- don’t disclose their locations on- line. People who are dedicated can still find the remote places and those who are just joy riding can go to these well-publicized places and will probably have a good time anyway.

Bigponcho they come with 8.1 inches of ground clearance, so the capability definitely has to be “unlocked” with a lift. My passport has 11-1/4” at the front skid plate and 11-1/2” at the rear diff. The lowest hanging points are the lower control arms. In the rear, the lowest point on the arms is 9”. AWD system, high biased rear LSD, and the aggressive 9 speed make this a more capable AWD, but, it’s still doesn’t compare to 4wd with traction aids.

@@JonDZ_Adventuring i dont even wheel, i just like to camp, so a passport or somthing like it, might do the trick for me

Bigponcho yeah, I think it will. I’m currently 1400 miles into my Yellowstone road trip right now. With 4 adults and loaded down with gear so much that I’ve lost about an inch of ground clearance at the rear differential, I’m still getting 19.4 mpg. This is with the 80 mph speed limit through Utah. I expect the MPG’s to improve to around 21-22 on the way home. Without all my mods, you’ll be getting around 24-27 mpg.

Haha! The overlanding community is awesome, you have friends everywhere, I made so many through KZfaq and Instagram. If you’re from So Cal, message me on Instagram @jondz_adventuring

@@JonDZ_Adventuring sadly I'm not, but maybe after all this COVID crap is over I'll come out.

Braden Bartlett we have a Facebook page setup for events. Seriously, there’s always someone available to get on a trail with. Join up. It’s not a group, just a “page” to help like minds get together. facebook.com/groups/1097379240623726/?ref=share

I have a video about that. I actually use to drive a FJ cruiser but picked the Honda Passport for a specific reason. Here’s the vid: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftKXZ5R0kr2domg.html A 4 runner is cool if you keep it local, but I drive all over the western USA and an off-road capable crossover (especially the Honda Passport) gets through the long drives more comfortably and efficiently. I actually tried to get into a 2019 Tacoma, but at 6’1” 260lbs. The truck with the biggest cab was still basically a 2 seater to me.

@@JonDZ_Adventuring Why not buy an older off-roader and keep the Passport commuter friendly? I bought an older jeep for a weekend toy, you worry less when the vehicle isnt your daily. For the daily driver, I picked up a 5 year old focus, I'm 6'3" and it fits just fine.

Eric, I wish I could. I actually go over that in the video I linked. At this point in my life, I can only own 1 vehicle (mostly do to parking issues). Eventually, I’d like to own a half ton diesel truck with a slide in camper

Daniel Ku thanks! I’m currently using a Viair 88p tire inflator I carried over from my Subaru Forester, but it’s time for me to upgrade. I have a list of tire inflators on my informational website, here’s the link: crossoverlanding.com/trail-gear-inflators

@@JonDZ_Adventuring How long does it take you to inflate from 20 Psi back to 35 psi? The inflator I used takes me about 8 minutes per tire now, which will take me 30 minutes before I can get back on the road. Any suggestions?

Daniel Ku id get the snotty built 6CFM air compressor. Link on the website. I actually inflate from 20-40 PSI, it takes me a good 6 minutes per tire. Yes... it sucks! Worked great on the Forester XT with 235/65R17 29.0” tires, but now that I have 255/65R18 32.1” tires it takes forever.

Owen W I love prerunners, such cool trucks. Many have said this is doable in a 2wd truck with A-trac. Since your rear locker is made of magic, I think you’ll be fine! I’d compare this trail to Monache meadows, except this trail is a bit steeper. I’d recommend 2L from the start. Actually, my friend made easy work of the Monache meadows in his 2nd gen prerunner.

@@JonDZ_Adventuring thats great to hear! Thanks for getting back to me so quick. I'm starting to get into overlanding (after I bought a 2wd truck of course - ugh) but im starting to realize how much of a difference those rear lockers make. I really enjoyed this video btw, its the first I've seen that has actually taught me things like choosing lines and strategies for trail riding. It also really made me want to check out this spot- im definitely adding it to my list for the near future!

When we did it back in July of 2020, the trail was in descent shape. I hear that this trail has become so eroded that it was shut down for maintenance. If the trail is in the condition depicted in this video, you would be fine, but I hear 4WDs were getting stuck in the spring of 2021.

@@JonDZ_Adventuring thanks for that info. Keep up the great work 🤙

david juarez a 2019 tiguan should do better than the Subaru’s, so I’d say so. Historically, the Haldex AWD system wasnt so good, but Haldex 5.0, like in your Tiguan is now one of the better AWD systems. Also, your ride has a 18.6:1 crawl ratio which rivals a Jeep renegade trailhawks 20.4:1. Other crossovers only have a 12-14:1 crawl ratio. 9.5” of ground clearance is right on the border of having enough ground clearance, so offroad skill (wheel placement) will be very important.

@@JonDZ_Adventuring thank you very much for that info. Stay safe out there !!

david juarez thanks! You as well! Our whole state is on 🔥. 😱

@@JonDZ_Adventuring it sucks man so many trails gone

This moderate 4WD trail will be hard to severe for an AWD, so completing this trail will be heavily dependent on driver skill and experience.

We have a Facebook group called “crossoverlanding (hub)”

Dacia Project I’m not sure what the others were running. I run my tires at 20 psi. Radio’s transmit at 5 watts

you will have no problem making to above the final switch back. The switch back was tight for me in my double cab long bed tacoma. But I have seen 4wd ecocline vans make the turn and even a sprinter van.

Good Question! Because Laurel lakes isn't a wilderness area, you don't need permits

@@JonDZ_Adventuring sorry but you are incorrect. From the forest service website "John Muir Wilderness permit is required year round for overnight trips" almost all parts of the sierras need a wilderness permit for over night

Right. This isn’t John Muir wilderness though. Sandra is an immaculate planner. She’s also a Lawyer. She even went as so far to speak with a Forest Ranger. But who knows, I’m sure we all have been told one thing by this ranger and another thing by another ranger. How sure are you that we’re incorrect?

marrieddezertrat here’s the website. www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/inyo/recreation/recarea/?recid=20464&actid=50 It says that once you exit the 4x4 trail and enter the hiking trail you enter the wilderness area, and for that you need a wilderness permit

@@JonDZ_Adventuring I would agree with you. I checked out the map. Surprisingly the lake and the road are not in the wilderness. Good call

BRRRT241 right, it’s a “moderate” 4wd trail, not “difficult”.

JonDZ Adventuring been on it several times, not trying to knock your video but it’s just a dirt road. I’ve been off-roading for 30 years just don’t see it as even moderate

30 years is a lot of time to build up your skill set. The guy with the white Ford Expedition is a perfect example of what this trail can do to beginners. He was stuck and high centered on a rock for 30 minutes and blocked the trail. Then I captured the part where he smashed into more rocks. It’s my responsibility to assume the viewer is a beginner. Like the saying goes, “better safe than sorry”. There’s also too many cocky drivers out there with capable vehicles that don’t respect this trail and end up destroying their vehicles and leaving car parts and fluids littered across the trail.

JonDZ Adventuring nice job on the video. I love that area. Keep on overlanding

BRRRT241 thank you for the kind words and sharing your opinion about the trail.

I typically always run 20 psi

When offroad that is

c K yes, on a Saturday around 12 noon

Ha! No! 18:1 crawl ratio would be a downgrade. Not sure how the bronco sport will compete with the Cherokee trailhawk with 56:1

@@JonDZ_Adventuring With crawl control it should be the better of the 2

We shall see. If they put a real transfer case in the bronco sport it would be promising. It’ll be hard to compete with the Cherokee trailhawk because not only does it have real 4 low, but it also has a real rear locker, and we all know how magical lockers are.

Hey there Lee I., Darn! Sound like you just missed the Calico Mountain Haloween Campout last weekend (Oct. 16-18). Please join the facebook page "Crossoverlanding (Event Hub). Here's the link: facebook.com/groups/1097379240623726/ This page is used to get events together and meet like minded people.

@@JonDZ_Adventuring yah...just found your video today! I’ve been looking at places to go off-road (newbie) here.

@@lignas I have a trail database on my informational website: crossoverlanding.com/trail-database These trail will be a great place to start.

Chris Mcdowell not all of us can own a car for a certain situation, especially here in California where an extra parking spot is hard to come by. When I make the video “3000 mile road trip to Yellowstone National park” will you be asking why I didn’t drive a Prius there?

@@JonDZ_Adventuring Not at all, actually I will tell you to swing by Utah and ill take you to some really cool off road spots. Just seems like using a standard screwdriver to take out a Philips screw. It will get the job done, but you risk striping the screw. just the wrong tool for the job.

Lol! My 2006 Nissan Xterra off-road edition 4wd . Has factory lockers 4wd low and high 6 speed manual transmission! I led up the trail so only a few shots of it in the video.

great info Didn’t see your Xterra, sorry about that. Body on frame construction, lockers. Good rig.

@@chrismcdowell5515 the driver has more to do with success then the rig. I've seen some subies with good drivers do some bad ass stuff, I've seen morons in Tacomas bog em out and need a yank....

Kevin CinnamonToast it’s not part time reactive AWD, so yeah, I think any 4WD will do this. It’s a moderate 4wd trail.

This is an old video. I have 12.5” at the center line.

Centerline is bottom of differential?...

It is, but also keep in mind the lower control arms taper down to 9” at the lowest point, and that’s because I have 32.1” tires. The centerline is decently wide though. instagram.com/reel/Clmbz7AgFoQ/?igshid=NTdlMDg3MTY=