Pastor Mark Reacts: Atheism & The Afterlife

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Pastor Mark Reacts: Atheism & The Afterlife

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In today's video, Mark reacts to a conversation between Russell Brand and Ricky Gervais. They are talking about atheism, morality, narcissism, death, the afterlife, and much more. What are your thoughts?
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@thisisvillagechurch 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Comment what video you want to see Mark react to next!

@Tuberiascaesar 3 жыл бұрын

Here's a question I'd like to see you cover in a future video. Jesus needed to experience humanity in order to help us. Yet in order to do that, he would have to have experienced the fears and uncertainties of death you describe. Yet he seemed to know for sure he was coming back, and remembered heaven, whereas a human don't. So how did he fit that in?

@labranehit7687 3 жыл бұрын

You know that there are hypotheses out there (in the scientific community) that the universe has no beginning? It is stipulated that it is a cycle of big bang, expansion, implosion. And this might be going on in infinity. You don't need divinity for that hypotheses to function.

@Praise___YaH 9 ай бұрын

HERE is The Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER (Genesis 1) HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

@cardcounter21 2 жыл бұрын

If Christians believe that something can't come from nothing and therefore everything had to be 'created' then you can't claim that God had no beginning and no creator because no one can possibly know this! If something can't come into existence without creation then God himself *had* to be created - you CANNOT escape the paradox!!!

@hakarab29 3 жыл бұрын

Narcissism is not nihilism. They clearly care about something, themselves.

@chaseferruccio7610 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a reaction to Joe Rogan and Matthew McConaughey talking about supernatural elements in the Bible, being able to know the point of the Bible, and if we can know what it all means.

@YourArmsGone 3 жыл бұрын

On the topic of morals, every intelligent social species has some form of morals, from parrots to chimps. They all have concepts of fairness, they help each other, and shun/punish those who break the rules. Human morality may be more nuanced at times but we are also more intelligent and live in more complex societies. There isn't some fundamental difference between human morals and those of other animals.

@zach2980 3 жыл бұрын

The PBS program Nature just rolled out a series on primates detailing much of what you’re saying. My family loves the PBS weds. lineup of Natue, NOVA, etc. One night a week of well presented scientific realities serves as a good inoculate to unfounded fantastical claims preachers speak of. Reality is so much more amazing than many realize. Odds are, we’ve just this one life, so maybe just learn and love all you can. www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/secrets-of-survival-primates-vh6vss/23308/

@brando3342 3 жыл бұрын

@Lucas Actually that sort of sidesteps the real point. The point is the ability to self reflect and recognize these AS moral law. Animals don't do that, they don't have the ability to introspect. They don't have "moral law", they have instinct and sure instinct can tend to look like human morality, but you have to first grant the existence of human morality in the first place to even recognize something that looks similar in animals. The only way we grant human morality is through introspection, which animals cannot do. Animals simply, do. Kind of like Heath Ledger's Joker actually, he just "does things"... instinct.

@YourArmsGone 3 жыл бұрын

@@brando3342 It is still a matter of degree, I would say that human "moral law" is just instincts that we have analyzed and expanded upon. Animal aren't as intelligent as people so their ability to introspect about morals is more limited, However intelligent animals have a greater ability to consider right and wrong than you give them credit for. Once again the difference is a matter of degree not a fundamental difference.

@winterramos4527 3 жыл бұрын

The buck stops when a creationist walks into a room

@AlejandraRomeroLovelyinPink 3 жыл бұрын

Love this! We should discuss more of these things, it's crazy how we are afraid to speak about so many things so we don't offend anyone... I'd like to see Pastor react to some Tiktok videos that talk about some theological ideas. Can we also talk about the prosperity gospel? What is it that they preach? what is bad about it? why are people cancelling churches so quick?

@DJMTRAXXX 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome videos!!! I’m hooked. God bless you and all here watching. ✝️🙏🏼❤️

@Twulfbynight 2 жыл бұрын

You have a poor understanding of the animal kingdom. Social animals like wolves and monkeys are often shown capable of empathy and compassion with outside species such as birds. Animals aren’t just mindless killing machines. They have formed symbiotic relationships through millennia of cooperation.

@Chidds 3 жыл бұрын

"There's no evidence a god began to exist." - There's no evidence a god even exists! Either way, Mark doesn't understand Gervais' point. We don't know the Universe began to exist, all we can determine is there was a change of state from which the Cosmos came. In fact, to say it began to exist makes no sense when one considers the relationship between the Universe and time.

@yacopok 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Village Church crew! Thanks for the video! I would love to see one on God's omniscience vs free will.

@rebeccaschroeder8891 3 жыл бұрын

Beautifully said we were not wired for death!!!! Adam and Eve had everything and it came from GOD. They were clothed in GODS LIGHT, and sin happened in the garden. JESUS CHRIST IS OUR WAY OUT FROM DEATH AND THE GRAVE. ACTS 4:12.

@nissy9220 3 жыл бұрын

The lack of common sense in people baffles me

@gheorghebirca 3 жыл бұрын

If taking out God from a society, it is not that people will choose to idolize something else, but people simply will be enslaved by the government, choice will be eliminated.

@keevusmckay2694 2 жыл бұрын

Pastor Mark is very bright but on the topic of morality he doesn't throw a wrench into the theory of evolution really. Every intelligent social species has certain codes of morality, humans being the most nuanced as another commenter pointed out. What other commenters haven't point out is why- its theorized that these moral instincts function evolutionarily as helping group survival. Basically, its posited that intelligent social species are evolved enough that the survival of each individual actually is improved because each member is concerned with others. Pastor Mark would have to refine his argument here.

@theoskeptomai2535 3 жыл бұрын

Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending acknowledgement of the existence of gods until sufficient evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._* And here is the evidence as to why I currently hold to such a position. 1. I personally have never observed a god. 2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god. 3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists. 5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises. 6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 9. Every phenomena that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable. ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.

@Akira-jd2zr 3 жыл бұрын

I am also an atheist and I am stealing this ;)

@theoskeptomai2535 3 жыл бұрын

@@Akira-jd2zr Feel free to adapt it to your particular situation. Peace.

@barttyler1303 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Theo, my name is Bart. I read through your ten statements and I have a question, what do you mean by observe? With the naked eye?

@theoskeptomai2535 3 жыл бұрын

@@barttyler1303 To detect through natural and artificial means.

@barttyler1303 3 жыл бұрын

@@theoskeptomai2535 what does that mean? natural is with the optic nerve sending a signal to the brain that something is observable? What is artificial means?

@aubreyleonae4108 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I can't even !

@zach2980 3 жыл бұрын

Mark, what books or courses have you taken on evolution? What other insanely evidenced scientific consensuses do you think are a seeming conspiracy?

@PhrontDoor 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. His understanding of matters scientific, rational and (especially) evolution were painfully cringeworthy in the past. His assertion that if you don't worship god then you'll worship something else is bogus. What of people that worshipped dozens of deities. Does that mean that when Greeks or Egyptians converted to monotheism then they worshipped 11+ other things to replace those gods. You see how nonsensical Mark's assertions were. It's a modern technique where theistic apologists are trying to say "oh yeah, you do the same thing" -- it's immature, but I usually reply, with "oh yeah, I never realized that you are claiming that worship is a stupid thing -- yes, it is. I agree to not worship the state and to continually challenge scientific claims -- so I won't worship anything and will be skeptical as well -- can YOU make the same promise?" They'll always backpedal. it's like the "oh yeah, you have faith too" implying that faith is stupid too.

@zach2980 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhrontDoor I wonder if he’s spent much time abroad in some of the other secular countries? I agree, worshiping is a odd concept, and the idea that some Omni god desires it by us is silly. Kinda reminds me of the seemingly same desire by the current US “leader”.

@Danny-fp5lx 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhrontDoor I think this might be a misunderstanding of how he used the word worship. He’s discussing a classic Christian teaching about idolatry. The Bible teaches that idols can be physical things built out of wood or stone but also metaphysical things such as pleasure, wealth, power etc. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Jordan Peterson’s teachings on the values hierarchy but I believe his teaching is the best secular way to explain this concept more or less. Essentially the Bible’sr idea that if God isn’t the number one value and authority in your life then something else less than God will take that place. Maybe it’s rationalism, materialism, naturalism, money, power, philanthropy or pleasure but whatever takes the place as God as your highest value will be something, according to Christian teachings, less than God and created by him. Therefore substituting the infinite and uncreated God for something that is finite. Nietzsche also outlined this concept in his poem “The Mad Man” or God is dead, which I’m sure you’re familiar with, essentially discusses that now that God is no longer the top moral authority in society, what will take its place? Worship, in terms of how the Bible describes it doesn’t mean to sing songs or set incense although that can be an expression of worship. Worship means devotion and tcan take many forms but the Bible teaches the only true worship is a devoted heart, every other type of worship means nothing without that. I will also add that even the Hindus believe in an ultimate God and so did the Egyptians. Although they had many deities they worshiped they also believed in an ultimate reality so to speak above it all. In fact so did the Greeks. You could say each deity represented different things (fertility, death, etc) and they had a kind of hierarchy. So I would reply to your reply with, “You may say you worship nothing, but what is your heart devoted to or what is your mind devoted to? What is the top of your values hierarchy? Maybe it’s rationalism. Maybe it’s your intellect. Because that is what the Bible calls worship and that is your god.”

@melissarossonpersonaltrain4182 2 жыл бұрын

Can you comment on the emerging preachings that the earth is 6000 years old and if you don’t believe that people lived with dinosaurs, you aren’t truly Christian because you don’t believe the Bible 100%?

@raysonraypay5885 3 жыл бұрын

Pastor Mark is great

@justice3043 3 жыл бұрын

The Kalam cosmological argument is basically solid. It can't really be argued against effectively. I'm sure that's what you're referring to actually. You do a really good job I like your work. I like that you argue from moral law as well. That is a really solid argument.

@donepearce 3 жыл бұрын

The Kalam argument has nothing to say about a god. It simply doesn't go there. And it is solid dust. It starts with the bold assertion that everything that starts to exist has a cause - that needs proving, not asserting. It is certainly not true at the quantum level. It then says that the universe had a beginning - well, that is the current model, but we don't know for sure. If you extend the model to the whole cosmos it is not clear that it had a beginning. There is nothing preventing that from being infinite. And finally the universe has a cause - well, fine, but the likely cause is a pinched off region from the inflating cosmos. The current mathematics suggests that space and time may be an emergent property of quantum entanglement. We will find that out by experiment, not by believing something. There is nothing to suggest agency at work. You are clearly not a philosopher and you wouldn't recognise a solid argument if it bit you on the arse. You simply believe what he says because you are similarly deluded.

@tylerbranch7524 2 жыл бұрын

The point u made in the intro is a fallacy. Just because there's no evidence that a non existent god isn't eternal doesn't mean he is eternal.

@rwatson2609 Жыл бұрын

If "a God" came about by some evolutionary event, or in general did not always exist then he/she/it isn't really big enough to fit the description of God. Eternality is a must just like all powerful or all knowing are too. If God did not always exist then I would agree with you and we'd have bigger questions to sort out such as all of matter and time.

@Chidds 3 жыл бұрын

Mark's ignorance on naturalistic reasons for the existence on moral sensibilities does not mean there are no reasons. It is almost like he has never explored anything related to evolutionary psychology. Moral sensibilities are far from exclusive to humans.

@alexrojas9725 3 жыл бұрын

GOOD JOB💯👍

@weissvisuals4776 2 жыл бұрын

Bro did u rlly just say that there’s no evidence of god☠️

@vickielewallen3799 3 жыл бұрын

It'll "all come out in the wash" on Judgement Day. It almost makes no sense to argue, because in this life we can't *prove* there is a God, or *prove* there is not. Only time/death, will tell them for sure (and then it'll be too late to debate the point).

@smashleyscott8272 3 жыл бұрын

Two questions: 1- how do you know that we cannot prove God in this existence...?? 2- what do you mean by "proof"... what standard of evidence do you accept as "proving" something...???

@vickielewallen3799 3 жыл бұрын

@@smashleyscott8272 What i mean is, you can experience God in a big way in your life or mine, but another person still won't "get it" if they haven't experienced Him, or experienced Him the same way, and recognized it. Your experience was great proof to you, but *they* might not understand, might still doubt, etc, because they didnt experience the same proof. I think there is so much evidence that He is real, both in the earth, the prophecies fulfilled so far, etc, but an unbeliever wouldnt consider it proof, or sometimes even evidence. See what i mean? I have *no doubt* that He is real, but my proof or evidence might not convince them at all. (I guess thats He says we can "plant the seed", or water, but only HE can "give the increase," or the transformation in them.)

@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know about you but some of the comments on this channels videos only PROVES 2 Timothy 3

@jennypatton3886 3 жыл бұрын

I can’t even understand him. Because his ascent.

@jaysonbrady6831 3 жыл бұрын

This guy doesn't understand evolution

@foomy3467 3 жыл бұрын

React to the ending of Rick and Morty Season 4 ep. 6!!

@sweetpeabrown261 2 жыл бұрын

No, atheists are not "pumping out something to worship" [3:31]. You sound very uninformed. Unsupported claims are boring and unconvincing. Ta!

@smashleyscott8272 3 жыл бұрын

Lol... hey, Ricky, what exactly is "bad behavior" without a transcendent, universal, objective standard of behavior...???

@jaysonbrady6831 3 жыл бұрын

So you need someone else to tell you how to and how not to behave? I assume you beat your slaves too within an inch of their life too since God tells you to do that. Or do you not do that because you recognise that it's a bad thing to do? Lol indeed

@darlenemcintyre9998 3 жыл бұрын

How about your thoughts on the Pope's speech last month.

@jennypatton3886 3 жыл бұрын

God has always been. He is in everything and beyond everything he nit a discussion of who bore him he is a light of life. The light of life is something that just exists. We ask this question but this is not a question to be asked really.