I really like how the Reviewer opens and manipulates all the pockets on camera which I don't see in other reviews. It really lets you see the feel of all the features.
@EDG2 жыл бұрын
Man, that means a lot! I try to review the way I’d want to watch a review. Patagonia is notoriously skimpy on the product photo/videos, so it hard to drop $100+ on a bag I haven’t seen thoroughly. Glad it helped 👍
@nadaentreaspas7 ай бұрын
one year later and it's still the best review about this product.
@EDG7 ай бұрын
Eyyy, appreciate that man! Thanks for the view and comment, it really helps.
@michaels957410 ай бұрын
The feature you're describing at the 1 minute mark are load lifters, not "wideners" or whatever for the distance between the shoulder straps. They're used to cinch the load of the pack closer to your back for better weight distribution.
@EDG10 ай бұрын
You're correct, I should have clarified thats what the primary function is, , with the side benefit of also changing how the straps sat on my shoulders, thus affecting how wide the straps were. Thanks.
@pijnoАй бұрын
Been using this bag for 1.5 yrs now and i completely agree with the lack of organization, the thin material, and the straps. The laptop sleeve was the selling feature for me, but after 1.5 yrs, i have never removed it once, so i think just an unremovable good cushioned laptop sleeve like other bag will do just fine for me. The lack of organization is actually the biggest pain for me. Everything is all mixed up in there. I cant even find a place to hold a pen (i only carry 1 pen when travel) and the mesh pockets at the laptop sleeve are in weird shape that is not deep enough to hold a pen. Also, the material is thin and not that water repellent imo. I walked thru light rain and half of the stuff inside got all wet already. The straps are placed weirdly and i often feel that they do not stay in place when walking. One last issue i have is with the back support, which is kinda nonexistent and becoming really hot if i walk for more than half an hr. Overall, i dont like it much and it's one of the worst backpacks i've owned.
@helenam80372 жыл бұрын
Great review! Great to see such a thorough breakdown of the new models
@EDG2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Helena, glad I could help. What do you think about that laptop sleeve?
@Donyale6230 Жыл бұрын
Your reviews are top notch. I really wish Patagonia would start adding a hip belt. Other than that the Refugio 26L is great for those of us who are short.
@EDG Жыл бұрын
Danieru, thanks for the love. Yea, I think a hip belt is only necessary if the pack starts to get heavy. It’s tough because these packs are more everyday use, Even though Patagonia is an outdoor company and these packs technically can be used for short hikes. But yea I agree. Check out my Mini MLC 30L, which does have a hip pack!
@kap32142 ай бұрын
If they just kept the two organiser pockets (one with a mesh, one with a zipper) from last year models, it would have been the perfect bag. Those two pockets really don’t take up any space and make it so convenient to store small items like keys, AirPods, passports, and so on. I also use separate pouches, but they have a tendency to awkwardly shift to the bottom of the bag when you need it most. On the other hand, I like that they reduced the size to 26 and also made it into more of a rectangular shape. The older 28 bag had a tendency to bulge out and be difficult to put under the seat of budget airlines. The new bags also feel sturdier - it seems that they used slightly thicker or stiffer materials. But it also makes the bags feel surprisingly heavy when empty.
@EDG2 ай бұрын
agreed to everything you said. Thanks for the comment! I love a great bag analysis.
@2paranoid2think Жыл бұрын
I just ordered both sizes from Back Country. A few colors are on sale, so I got both for just over $100 🙊 definitely a steal!
@EDG Жыл бұрын
Wow what!? That is absolute highway robbery. Great find.
@ovictorkim8 ай бұрын
This print is really beautiful--quite unusual to the classic outdoor aesthetic...
@EDG8 ай бұрын
Yes it is! Good to switch it up every once and a while
@smaao Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review, helped me save my money. I don't need a laptop sleeve. I need a bag with good edc pockets
@EDG Жыл бұрын
hey SAO, no problem, thats what I hope to do. Yea, I ended up returning both of these. I wasn't a huge fan as you could probably tell. There are many other good bags out there.
@werekill9 ай бұрын
Excellent review! I just got the 26L and love it, due to my preference for using packing cubes and my own general organization tools, since I often carry oddly-shaped objects/tools. Being able to remove the sleeve and use that pocket for clothing-cube storage for no-laptop trips is great too. However, I do think the 30L's sleeve is way better than the 26L. Sometimes small pockets are needed, and those extra pockets seem great! From your experience, does the 30L sleeve fit into the 26L bag? If so, I'm tempted to hit up Patagonia support and see if I can buy it separately.
@EDG9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the love, glad I could help. Dang, thats a good thing to try and I didn't think of swapping them! I dont have the bags anymore, but I believe they are swappable, because both fit there same size laptop. Hope that helps! What color did you get?
@werekill9 ай бұрын
@@EDG Thanks a ton for the answer! That definitely helps. I'll hit up their support line and see what they say about ordering just the sleeve. I went for Black since it fits more of my outfits, and it goes well with my REI Big Haul 40 duffel for two-bag travel. So far the combo has worked great for trips!
@EDG9 ай бұрын
@@werekill Great to hear! Yea love REI's stuff . Their small rucksack 18L has stayed in my rotation since I first got into bags, it's just too good and dirt cheap.
@rjl8863 ай бұрын
I dont like the laptop sleeves at all! But i like both bags, im needing a personal item backpack for my upcoming trip
@EDG3 ай бұрын
yea, they're not too great. Nice! Are you going to get one of these? I've reviewed a ton of backpacks of similar size, if your'e interested in other options.
@mdubb48559 ай бұрын
Thoughtful
@EDG9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@kap32142 ай бұрын
I don’t like this tendency of Patagonia removing every single organiser pockets from their bags. They even silently removed one from the black hole 1L hip bags!
@EDG2 ай бұрын
yea, the shift away from organization is baffling. It's the one job a backpack has. I sold my 1L black hole because of that too. I found a way better sling.
@yuehuang2300 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. Very helpful. Thank you! Do you think it's a good flight underseat bag?
@EDG Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Yes, it would definitely be an under seat bag, especially the smaller size. I have used it for that many times.
@mysticmink510411 ай бұрын
i like the aesthetic patagonia used to design their bags with like 2014-2016 the best, all the ones afterward have been dull to me. the petrolia, paxat, yerba, fuego, ect. those older bags looked so beautiful and interesting, now they all look boring for the sake of "minimalism" imo
@EDG11 ай бұрын
yea I think I agree with you there. The look it whatever. I think also the material took a slight dip in quality after the switch to 100% recycled. But I think I'm ok with that.
@dr.possible2399 Жыл бұрын
I just got the 26l on sale for $75 CAD plus shipping so it was around $100! Im still uncertain if I should have just got the 30l; do you think there’s a large space difference between the 26L and the 30L? Either way, great review!
@EDG Жыл бұрын
that as a great deal! May I ask how tall you are? 4L difference is large if you're traveling and need to absolutely do 1 bag travel...but for everyday use it doesn't make too much of a difference. Hope you enjoy!
@dr.possible2399 Жыл бұрын
@@EDG I’m 5’10”! I was thinking about returning it, since I may want to use it as a one pack, but maybe I might just keep it and buy another one, haha! It really was a great deal
@kaan177611 ай бұрын
I have a 15.6 inches laptop wanna buy refugio 26l if it fits. Do you think it can fit it?
@EDG11 ай бұрын
Hi, yep it’ll fit. Thanks
@kaan177611 ай бұрын
@@EDG thanks to you dude
@epico580510 ай бұрын
Is the laptop compartment suspended?
@EDG10 ай бұрын
Yep it is
@epico580510 ай бұрын
@@EDG good to know! Might pick up this bag when Black Friday rolls around
@EDG10 ай бұрын
@@epico5805 Yes! its a good option, though Patagonia is usually stingy about offering discounts. they almost never do on their packs. Trust me, I've looked haha. Just curious, what are you using the pack for? Ive been wondering if people use these outdoor packs actually for outdoors.
@benyang15492 жыл бұрын
waiting for the updated version... Do you happen to know if/when the new version comes out? Good video btw!
@EDG2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben! I don’t think I understand your question. This version in the video is already out.
@benyang15492 жыл бұрын
@@EDG oh I meant how they changed the pack from 28 to 26/30 liters. I heard Patagonia updates their lineup every year. I'm a fan of the older Refugio and Chacabuco and was hoping they could bring the style back
@EDG2 жыл бұрын
@@benyang1549 Ah I see. Yes they changed the size for this 2022 version. Yea, I'm also a fan of their older design slightly.
@osiohanu8166 Жыл бұрын
does it fit 40 oz bottles
@EDG Жыл бұрын
Mmm, i Don’t think so. It’ll probably fit a 40 ounce not insulated, but it won’t fit a 40oz hydroflask I don’t think. Luckily they have these at every REI so you can check it out in person.
@osiohanu8166 Жыл бұрын
@@EDG REI?
@EDG Жыл бұрын
@@osiohanu8166 Ha, sorry. I'm from the US, I'm not sure where you're from. REI is an outdoor retail store chain that is in lots of cities. The store carries the backpack in stock. Unfortunately I idon't have a 40oz water bottle to test with. It fits my 32oz hydro flask barely. Hope that helps a bit.
@hiac1 Жыл бұрын
Hi, what do you mean by saying "laptop compartment with false bottom", because in another review I read laptop sleeve is not suspended?
@EDG Жыл бұрын
In short, yes it is suspended. There are 2 parts to laptop storage. 1 is the removable padded sleeve, and 2nd is the pocket area that the padded sleeve goes into. The padded sleeve touches the bottom of the pocket area, BUT the whole pocket area is the "false bottom", in that it is sewn higher than the bottom of the backpack. So when the padded ting is in the pocket area, it is suspended above the ground. Hope this helps.
@hiac1 Жыл бұрын
@@EDG That cleared it all up. Thanks a lot :)
@EDG Жыл бұрын
@@hiac1 no problem, glad I could help
@andresromero9702 Жыл бұрын
Does a 17 in laptop fit on the 30L without the sleeve ?
@EDG Жыл бұрын
yep, I'd say so after you take out the sleeve
@Mattzerfyer2 жыл бұрын
Overall, I prefer the old design.
@EDG2 жыл бұрын
Yep,after using both I think I do too. What’s your opinion on this new laptop sleeve?
@Mattzerfyer2 жыл бұрын
@@EDG it's a nice idea but I really think it should come as an accessory and not with the bag. There are tonnes of laptop sleeves out there, and I'd prefer to use some of the other alternatives.
@EDG2 жыл бұрын
@@Mattzerfyer yea , I feel the same. There are alot better options out there, so I wish they put the laptop sleeve budget into higher quality material or more pockets.
@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess6 ай бұрын
I kinda hate these bungee cord front sections they put in backpacks. It would be way more useful to add a mesh pocket, like in the old North face Recon, or in the Osprey Nebula, waaay more useful
@EDG6 ай бұрын
Yep, I'd have to agree. Mesh on the front is better. Do you ahve one of those old packs?